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juliankLaney: I'm not mistaken that it was you who said that about phased updates, right?15:33
juliankLaney: I need to find the backlog to figure out the arguments15:34
Laneyjuliank: I don't remember, maybe if you give me more context I might15:34
TJ-Anyone able to apply a debdiff to broken speedtest-cli in 20.04? bug #192362815:36
ubottubug 1923628 in speedtest-cli (Ubuntu) "speedtest-cli crashes (known bug)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192362815:36
juliankLaney: I can't find anything useful15:37
Laneywhat was it about?15:37
juliankLaney: When I started phased updates in apt and asked for review, I got a comment that phasing should only apply to updates to installed packages, but not to new installs15:39
Laneyahhh15:39
juliankLaney: I believe it was you, but I might totally misremember :D15:41
juliankAnd I can't find it without knowing who said it I guess15:41
juliankLaney: <backlog>15:47
juliankirc.freenode.#ubuntu-devel.weechatlog:2020-12-18 10:53:12       Laney   juliank: what does it do, if you install a package that you don't have installed already, you might not get the -updates version? or is it only for upgrading?15:47
juliankirc.freenode.#ubuntu-devel.weechatlog:2020-12-18 10:54:01       juliank Laney: That's a good point, i think it would install the release/security version15:47
juliank2020-12-18 10:54:18     juliank Laney: It really just pins down updates to 115:47
juliank2020-12-18 10:55:32     juliank Laney: But you're right, I can make it make it phase stuff for upgrades, not new installs15:47
juliank2020-12-18 10:55:46     juliank This also makes things faster!15:48
juliank2020-12-18 10:57:04     Laney   Yeah, I think that's what I would expect, also a UI hint that some updates are not being applied due to phasing15:48
juliankWhee15:48
juliankI found it by the commit date :D15:48
juliankSo we did not think much about it :D15:49
Laneyjuliank: heh15:49
Laneyand now this is causing a problem somehow?15:49
juliankLaney: yeah, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/192574515:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1925745 in apt (Ubuntu) "Hirsute: Cannot install ubuntu-desktop due to unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:49
Laneyjuliank: how come the resolver didn't select u-r-u-core for upgrade?15:51
Laney"because"15:51
juliankLaney: u-r-u-core was installed already, and hence the 20% phasing applied, so it did not became the candidate15:51
juliankLaney: u-r-u-gtk was not installed, so the phsing was ignored15:51
LaneyI would naively have thought that a dependency requirement would have caused it to be upgraded despite phasing15:52
juliankLaney: APT is not clever enough for those things :D15:52
juliankSo I think I'll turn on phasing for non-installed packages too15:52
juliankI could phase packages only if any binary in their source is installed, but that would be much slower15:53
julianknot sure if noticeably slower, but still15:54
Laneyjuliank: fair enough, I don't feel very strongly about it15:54
gjollyHi there, can someone check LP#1915571 for SRU please? MPs are up against the release branches waiting for someone from ubuntu core to have a look.16:19
jochenspHi, libc6_2.31-0ubuntu9.3 was deleted in focal-updates resulting in systems with it installed not being able to install libc6-dev (due to version locking). I think you should provide a .4 equal to .2 instead16:42
jochensprbalint: could you take care? (as you commented in https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-core20/+bug/1926355)16:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1926355 in snap-core20 "Snap applications segfault with new core20 (rev: 1015+)" [Critical,New]16:42
jochensp..oups, wrong link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1912652/comments/1516:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1912652 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Hirsute) "Upgrading libc6-lse breaks on systems it is in use" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:43
bdmurrayvorlon: ^16:46
vorlonbdmurray: are you agreeing that we should publish a .4 to handle the upgrade situation, despite it not having the .3 changes + fixes?16:52
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