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bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:00
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bdmurray#topic Lightning Round15:00
dbungerto/15:01
bdmurrayecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox doko sil2100 rbalint mwhudson juliank waveform slyon jawnsmith dbungert)15:01
bdmurraymwhudson dbungert slyon sil2100 bdmurray vorlon rbalint jawnsmith juliank waveform xnox doko15:01
dbungert(2 week edition)15:01
dbungert* LP: #1919251 - fix locale/interactive sessions / serial update - finish/merge15:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1919251 in subiquity "Unable to set locale when using interactive-sections in Automated Installs" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191925115:01
dbungert* LP: #1925048 - commit workaround.  Forcing a crash in other areas15:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1925048 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "subiquity installer crashed on FCP/multipath installation" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192504815:01
dbungert  doesn't trigger this though, so how do we get even into this state?15:01
dbungert* Subiquity - use networkctl instead of harsher process restarts thru systemd -15:01
dbungert  while the idea seems sound, networkctl on bionic/focal has features missing15:01
dbungert  that I'm using, so either I need a different solution or a vendored backport15:01
dbungert* LP: #1925722 - fix for curtin where, when we're formatting multiple disks and15:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1925722 in curtin "cannot deploy ESXi to non-sda drive" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192572215:01
dbungert  dd-ing not the first one, it would reimage the wrong disk.15:01
dbungert  Next action - update tests to cover this scenario15:01
dbungert* LP: #1926298 - my previous work on LP: #1706168 was flawed and introduced a15:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1926298 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "Segfault added in the recent changes" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192629815:02
dbungert  segfault.  Leverage more glib functionality to fix that and simplify.15:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1706168 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "dialog shouldn't be display if Command doesn't exist" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170616815:02
dbungert* Subiquity roadmap planning15:02
dbungert(done)15:02
slyon- Interviews/homework reviews15:02
slyon- Town Hall15:02
slyon- on +1 maintenance last week15:02
slyon  * finalizing +1 work this week, post archive opening15:02
slyon  * auctex, baycomepp, atlas, ap-utils, gsmlib, cgminer, clamfs, csh, gramophone215:02
slyon- Prepared snapd PR for NM snap integration (LP: #1926442)15:02
slyon  * https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/1021215:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1926442 in Snappy "cannot execute 'netplan generate' from within a snap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192644215:02
slyon  * setup and run "spread" tests locally against core20/edge15:02
slyon- Testing & improving NetworkManager snap on UC20, MP#40039815:02
slyon=== Netplan ===15:02
slyon- Investigated regression on core20/edge (LP: #1922898)15:02
slyon  * fixed in PR#206, pending SRUs15:02
slyon  * re-uploaded to ubuntu-image PPA, incl. regression fix15:02
slyon- Focal SRU verification for bug #1919453, bug #1922898 (Groovy still pending)15:02
slyon- Prepared & merged small fix for 'netplan set', PR#20715:02
slyon  * not needed for DBus based Config.Set() command15:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1922898 in netplan.io (Ubuntu Groovy) "[SRU] SEGFAULT on upgrade to 0.102-0ubuntu1~20.04.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192289815:02
slyon- Some bug triaging15:02
slyon- Working on YAML generator & corresponding test system (a little, at least)15:02
ubottubug 1919453 in netplan.io (Ubuntu Groovy) "[SRU][FFe] Update to netplan.io 0.102" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191945315:02
slyon(done)15:02
bdmurraysil2100:15:02
sil2100Oooh15:02
sil2100Yes15:02
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:03
sil2100- Last week - 21.04 release! Busy busy!15:03
sil2100- Helping out with archive opening for 21.1015:03
sil2100- Regaring that - verified debootstrap for g/f/b/x15:03
sil2100- ESM britney:15:03
sil2100  * Discussed other approaches to fetching private result logs15:03
sil2100  * Per discussions, switched to an SSO based result fetcher15:03
sil2100  * Rebased both the britney2 and autopkgtest-cloud ESM parts against latest big deployment changes15:03
sil2100  * Tested individual infrastructure bits locally15:03
sil2100  * Tweaking final iteration script per discussion with security15:03
dokobdmurray: s/xnox//g15:03
sil2100- Switching Bileto and security-britney (public) to use the new creds after the redeploy15:03
sil2100- Processed core20 rebuild with the new glibc15:03
sil2100- ...and then reverted the new glibc as core20 was broken with it, so iterated on that15:03
sil2100- UI customization:15:03
sil2100  * Reviewed snapd PR mirroring our ubuntu-image PR, both looking fine15:03
bdmurraydoko: he was here part of the time!15:03
sil2100  * Fixed merge conflicts on the UI side, bumped the snapd dependency15:03
sil2100- Pi DTB improvements:15:03
sil2100  * Merged the pending pidtbs UC20 PR, build snaps of the gadget and got those into egde15:03
sil2100  * Created cherry-picks for UC18, built snaps for arm64 and pushed those to edge15:03
sil2100  * Blocked auto-migration of the pi/18 gadget until we have confirmation that we're ready15:03
sil2100- Some ubuntu-image golang rewrite discussions with William - getting some initial action items!15:03
sil2100- Candidate interviews15:03
sil2100- Release retrospective15:03
bdmurraydoko: fixed though15:03
sil2100- Dusting out the old archival scripting15:03
sil2100- Documented and added the HardwareEnablementFreeze15:03
sil2100(done)15:04
bdmurrayreported upgrade crash from bionic LP: #192460415:04
bdmurrayinvestigation into update-manager autopkgtest failure after apt update (LP: #1924809)15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1924604 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade crashed with KeyError in __getitem__(): "The cache has no package named 'python-is-python2'"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192460415:04
bdmurrayuploaded fixes for the above15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1924809 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "apt 2.0.5 in focal causes autopkgtest failures for update-manager" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192480915:04
bdmurrayreview / upload of update-notifier changes for ESM Apps15:04
bdmurrayupdates to the deb2snap transition for upgrades from X to B15:04
bdmurraySRU verification of LP: #192229715:04
bdmurrayuploaded u-r-u with a warning regarding upgrades to hirsute15:04
bdmurrayreported u-r-u B to F bug report python-bson-ext LP: #192597215:04
bdmurray21.04 release and 21.10 release opening15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1922297 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Hirsute) "20.10 to 21.04: snap does not upgrade channel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192229715:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1925972 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 not calculatable if python-bson-ext is installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192597215:04
bdmurrayand some other stuff I forgot to write down15:04
bdmurray✔ done15:04
bdmurrayvorlon:15:05
JawnSmith* ISO testing Ubuntu 21.0415:05
JawnSmith* LP: #1925971 SRU linux-firmware-raspi2 bluetooth fixes to groovy/focal15:05
JawnSmith* LP: #1926378 SRU pi-bluetooth enablement for Pi 400 and CM415:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1925971 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "SRU bluetooth fixes and CVEs to focal and groovy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192597115:05
JawnSmith* Re-write ubuntu-image in golang for better snapd integration15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1926378 in pi-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "SRU pi-bluetooth from hirsute to focal to enable all models" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192637815:05
JawnSmith* Start work on booting Ubuntu on BeagleV SBC15:05
JawnSmith* +1 maintenance yesterday15:05
JawnSmith* Candidate Interviews15:05
JawnSmith[done]15:05
bdmurrayjuliank:15:06
juliank* apt 1.2.35 for xenial:15:06
juliank  - JSON hook backport15:06
juliank  - zstd support backport15:06
juliank  - couple test suite fixes15:06
juliank* apt 1.3.3:15:06
juliank  - couple of fixes by DonKult and typo fix by bdmurray15:06
juliank  - removed the deprecation warning for json hooks 0.1 to give snapd team some breathing room with updating snapd15:06
juliank* python-apt compressor lookup fixes (primarily for zstd support); down to focal, bionic/xenial wip.15:06
juliank(done)15:06
juliank(IIRC)15:06
doko1.3.3?15:06
bdmurrayDave is out15:07
doko- archive opening15:07
doko- finally dropping the armel/armhf gcc multilib builds, just tedious work15:07
doko- GCC 11.1 release, gcc-11 SRU for hirsute, backports for bionic and focal15:07
doko- gcc-10 build fun, package build aborts after 40h+, for the third time ...15:07
doko- looking at various gcc-N packaging bits15:07
doko- supposed to do +1 maintenance, which doesn't work this week. will do it next week15:07
doko(done)15:07
bdmurrayAny questions on status?15:07
bdmurray#topic Release Incoming Bugs15:08
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:09
bdmurraybug 191084115:09
ubottubug 1910841 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "upgrader should notify user if all pockets are disabled due not having a release file" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191084115:09
bdmurrayLets just take it as it should be relatively easy15:10
mclemenceauOk I'll card it15:11
bdmurraybug 1842047 was raised by the community team so we should card that too15:11
ubottubug 1842047 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Flavors should use their slideshows when shipping to the end user" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184204715:11
bdmurraybug 192346415:12
ubottubug 1923464 in u-boot-menu (Ubuntu) "ideally should boot rootfs from a matching hard drive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192346415:12
bdmurrayjuliank: You had an opinion on this?15:13
juliankRight, sort of don't see how it fits in with resilient boot having ESPs on multiple drives15:13
juliankwhich might be different than the /15:13
bdmurrayOkay, then lets punt it while you and xnox discuss it15:13
bdmurraybug 192562515:14
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 1925625 could not be found15:14
bdmurraybug 192526515:14
ubottubug 1925265 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Fresh install of hirsute-preinstalled-desktop-arm64+raspi has packages to autoremove" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192526515:14
bdmurrayThat just seemed weird to me but is it worth working on?15:14
bdmurrayIt probably isn't raspi-image specific15:16
sil2100I think we should take it15:16
sil2100Would be nice to do a clean up of our preinstalled images in that case, as it might also be the same case for riscv15:16
bdmurrayOkay, let's take it.15:17
mclemenceauok15:18
sil2100Ok, missed the part it's about desktop, so uh, but still15:18
bdmurraybug 1925483 was release noted so is something we should think about15:18
ubottubug 1925483 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Initial user login after ubiquity starts X11 desktop, not Wayland" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192548315:18
bdmurrayIf its fixed after reboot the question might be is there a substantially different user experience.15:20
bdmurrayGiven the performance difference lets take it.15:21
bdmurraybug 192552915:21
ubottubug 1925529 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) ""ReleaseNotesViewer" does not display anything with the text view" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192552915:21
bdmurrayGiven that we were using the release announcement to convey important information this seems worth fixing.15:22
bdmurraySo let's card that.15:22
bdmurraybug 192574515:22
ubottubug 1925745 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Hirsute: Cannot install ubuntu-desktop due to unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192574515:22
bdmurrayjuliank: I tagged this one because of the user experience with regards to sorting out what phasing meant.15:23
juliankack15:24
mclemenceaucarded the previous 215:24
bdmurrayDo you have any ideas how it might be more informative?15:24
bdmurraythanks!15:24
julianknot sure how this happened15:24
juliankThere's nothing we can do to make apt tell you more information really15:24
bdmurrayit was a 0 day SRU (I think) that we didn't fully phase15:25
juliankbzut ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk should be phasing identical to ubuntu-release-upgrader-core15:25
juliankso it should install ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk 21.04.10, not 21.04.1115:25
bdmurrayOh, I see.15:26
juliankI'll have to go play with it I guess15:26
bdmurrayOkay, thanks so let's move it to apt and card it.15:27
bdmurraybug 192482315:27
ubottubug 1924823 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ESP on install medium automatically configured as ESP for install, failing install" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192482315:27
juliankyes, we want to solve this more properly I think15:28
juliankIt's not super urgent15:28
bdmurrayShould we still card it then?15:29
juliankyeah15:29
mclemenceauok15:29
juliankI figured out what's going on with the phasing, and it's sort of Laney's fault ;)15:29
Laneywhat15:30
juliankLaney: You said new installs should not be phasing :D15:30
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:30
juliankLaney: Now if you have a package installed from same source package like u-r-u-core, installing u-r-u-gtk will fail :D15:30
juliankLaney: So I need to invent more magic to fix that :D15:30
juliankLaney: But mostly just joking about it being your fault :D15:31
bdmurraymoving on then to bug 1919177 which was release noted15:31
ubottubug 1919177 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "Azure: issues with accelerated networking on Hirsute" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191917715:31
vorlon... or revisit this "new installs should not be phasing" assertion?15:32
juliankvorlon: Need to read the backlog, but I agreed with the argument15:32
bdmurraylets card that so we track helping out the CPC team15:33
bdmurraybug 192626715:33
ubottubug 1926267 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade failed silently after failed to connect to snap service" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192626715:33
bdmurrayThere's an mp there so I'll card it15:34
bdmurraybug 1923477 was also release noted15:34
ubottubug 1923477 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Impish) "No WiFi on installed system if drivers were installed using 'Additional Drivers' in live-session before starting the installer." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192347715:34
bdmurrayAnd that's a pretty poor experience so let's card that15:35
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:35
bdmurraybug 192142715:36
ubottubug 1921427 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/update-notifier/list-oem-metapackages:AttributeError:/usr/lib/update-notifier/list-oem-metapackages@56:write_oem_metapackage_list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192142715:36
bdmurraylooking at the error tracker there aren't a ton of crashes about this15:37
bdmurrayso let's pass on it for now15:37
bdmurraybug 1921593 I think I should test this again with the clonefile attached15:38
ubottubug 1921593 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade fails with no error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192159315:38
bdmurrayso passing on that15:38
bdmurraybug 192460415:38
ubottubug 1924604 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade crashed with KeyError in __getitem__(): "The cache has no package named 'python-is-python2'"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192460415:38
bdmurrayThis can happen if universe is not enabled15:38
bdmurrayvorlon: I forget did you have an opinion on this?15:39
juliankLaney: that was you right, who said t15:39
juliankoops, sorry15:39
juliankWrong keys pressed + backlog15:39
vorlonbdmurray: I think the opinion I offerred is that we shouldn't be excessively concerned about making an upgrade "work" under those circumstances, we should just make sure we don't crash ugly15:40
bdmurrayI think the current behavior could be called ugly15:40
* vorlon nods15:40
bdmurrayso let's card that15:40
bdmurraybug 192597215:41
ubottubug 1925972 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 not calculatable if python-bson-ext is installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192597215:41
bdmurrayso there are still a lot of upgrade failures from B to F15:41
bdmurraythis might be one reason why15:41
bdmurrayI didn't find out why python-bson-ext is causing upgrade failures but its definitely that python2 quirk15:42
bdmurrayso let's card that too15:42
bdmurraybug 192010715:42
ubottubug 1920107 in finalrd (Ubuntu) "Failed messages of sd-umount shown with reboot/shutdown" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192010715:42
bdmurraythat's incomplete so let's pass on it15:43
bdmurrayand I'm already working on bug 192480915:44
ubottubug 1924809 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "apt 2.0.5 in focal causes autopkgtest failures for update-manager" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192480915:44
bdmurraythat's that for bugs15:44
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report15:45
dokoskip that15:45
vorlon#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:45
bdmurrayokay!15:45
dokothere's nothing ready15:45
vorlonbut nothing here because everything's too young after impish opened15:45
vorlonso yes, move on15:45
bdmurray#topic AOB15:45
bdmurrayI'm out starting tomorrow until next Thursday15:47
bdmurray#endmeeting15:49
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