| === alan_g_ is now known as alan_g | ||
| zxm-pi_ | allo allo | 10:11 |
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| daftykins | gooood mornin' | 10:11 |
| daftykins | cor, already solving client problems and it's not even mid-day | 10:12 |
| zxm-pi_ | charge extra for unsocialble hours. you can still taste the toothpaste! :-P\ | 10:22 |
| daftykins | :D | 10:51 |
| daftykins | looks like i'm going to succeed in swinging diddledan some more work though, which is nice! | 10:51 |
| zxm-pi_ | the old geeks network :-P | 10:52 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 10:53 |
| daftykins | ok gotta head out, bbl \o | 11:11 |
| zxm-pi_ | o/ | 11:12 |
| stevenm | oh yeah I was here for a while - then I forgot | 11:29 |
| stevenm | hi again | 11:29 |
| zxm-pi_ | o/ | 11:30 |
| daftykins | \o | 14:50 |
| daftykins | hmm, half way home from one - got a call to walk straight back and go to another :D | 14:50 |
| zxm-pi_ | don't have an e-scooter for moving servers? :-P | 14:51 |
| daftykins | haha, nah my clients are usually quite accomodating with my preference for a lack of transport | 14:53 |
| zxm-pi_ | a market that hasn't even really started yet ttps://cleanscooter.in/i/6d/e5/28/ed91d86f5f87c469e57d826461.jpg | 14:56 |
| daftykins | :) | 14:57 |
| daftykins | or perhaps if i was feeling fit still - https://cdn.webshopapp.com/shops/212063/files/110249687/johnny-loco-cargo-dutch-delight.jpg | 14:57 |
| zxm-pi_ | i'd imagine on narrow island streets that would be a bugger on corners. i see them having trouble here in older parts of dublin | 14:58 |
| daftykins | i'll sooner die on the hills and valleys :D definitely not going to try | 15:04 |
| * diddledan wanders in | 15:11 | |
| * diddledan looks confused | 15:11 | |
| * diddledan wanders out | 15:11 | |
| diddledan | (that's "The Father Dougal" method) | 15:11 |
| zxm-pi_ | not so much a method as a calling | 15:12 |
| diddledan | such a shame that Graham Linehan has turned into a bit of a contemptable person lately | 15:14 |
| zxm-pi_ | he chose the oddest hill to die on | 15:16 |
| daftykins | yay a wild diddledan appears | 15:44 |
| diddledan | or a dopeydoodah | 15:44 |
| daftykins | diddledan: how are you gonna defeat that pesky contact form then? seems mad it's a requirement o0 | 15:44 |
| diddledan | aye | 15:45 |
| diddledan | I can probably whip something up :-) | 15:45 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 15:45 |
| daftykins | have i given you all you need to get cracking? | 15:45 |
| diddledan | https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/53113 <-- my very important change to WP :-) | 15:45 |
| diddledan | yup, I think so | 15:45 |
| daftykins | there's even a free pic of my cat Mischief in the root xD | 15:46 |
| diddledan | :-o omg *kittycuddle* | 15:46 |
| daftykins | ooh fame with WP | 15:46 |
| daftykins | btw i spotted a teensy tiny typo on your site, top left "...Snap Packger for Linux." | 15:47 |
| diddledan | oops | 15:47 |
| daftykins | yay fixed | 15:52 |
| diddledan | ;-) | 15:53 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8exvTjZqrxs | 15:55 |
| daftykins | looking forward to reducing the wordpress instances under my control, seems all too easy for drama to occur if a plugin doesn't like a new release or similar | 15:56 |
| daftykins | wow that looks beefy | 15:56 |
| diddledan | aye, especially as WP seems to be moving to a less backwards-compatible-at-all-costs stance | 15:56 |
| daftykins | hrmm something to help boost revenue? | 15:57 |
| diddledan | donno. it's all being driven by the block editor | 15:57 |
| diddledan | which has far too much churn for my liking | 15:57 |
| daftykins | :D when you mentioned that'd involve learning i was like "NOOO! learning's horrid!" ;) | 15:58 |
| diddledan | as a plugin dev, I like that it allows me to replace a shortcode with a "block" that has guard rails so users don't try to do something that just cannot be done | 15:59 |
| daftykins | that's already talk beyond me! i've seen 'shortcode' mentioned but don't really get what it means | 16:02 |
| diddledan | a shortcode is a specially-formatted bit of text that gets replaced by WP plugins or theme code - my plugin hooks to shortcodes of the format: [a-z-listing configoptions] | 16:03 |
| diddledan | it's completely freeform though, so users can put whatever they want between the begin [ and end ]. | 16:04 |
| daftykins | ah ok so they just call the plugins into being, think i've seen that with the contact form 7 stuff inline on a page | 16:04 |
| diddledan | yup, the cf7 plugin has shortcodes to let you embed a contact form where you want it | 16:04 |
| daftykins | i was gonna repeat my tale of (both of our) other school-era friend's VPS woes of getting turned into a spammer until i noticed, so it'd certainly be nice to lock that down | 16:05 |
| daftykins | i wonder if i should prod him into checking the specific wording because i was really hoping just an obfuscated email address on the contact page was going to cut it | 16:06 |
| diddledan | I'm curious which spec mandates the contact form - it's an interesting requirement | 16:07 |
| daftykins | mmm | 16:07 |
| daftykins | he's a pretty time poor since he's a Doctor in the day, then does all these biz's on the side | 16:07 |
| daftykins | -a | 16:08 |
| diddledan | aah.. probably some medical thing then :-) | 16:08 |
| daftykins | yeah, if you caught me blabbing about all the server setup i was providing and doing stuff with XCP-ng, this is the one :D | 16:08 |
| diddledan | aha. XCP-ng is pretty funky | 16:09 |
| daftykins | ah it was gold last night, saved my bacon in a snap, i attempted to build a newer version of its' management tool and it messed up because the wrong node version was installed... i shutdown that VM, connected to the secondary one on my second host here in Guernsey and one-click restored the Exeter one to a snapshot taken at midnight last night, back in business without a problem :D | 16:10 |
| diddledan | 🎉 | 16:10 |
| zxm-pi_ | but now you can use your favourite captchas to filter out bots :-P https://i.imgur.com/GQqZWR4.jpg | 16:11 |
| daftykins | LOL | 16:11 |
| daftykins | that's great | 16:12 |
| diddledan | I've got three proliants running vmware in my home lab.. I keep wondering about whether XCP-ng might be better considering they're almost out of VMware's back-compat supported hardware | 16:12 |
| daftykins | might be! what vintage are they? i snagged myself 12th gen Dell PowerEdge's for peanuts | 16:13 |
| diddledan | I do particularly like VMware's automatic vmotion tho | 16:13 |
| diddledan | they're Gen8's (latest is Gen10) | 16:13 |
| daftykins | ooh i have that client with the ML350p gen 8 still (although it's not been turned on in months now) | 16:14 |
| daftykins | i've been loving it personally, for some reason VMs don't seem to boot as quick as on my home haswell whitebox solution running ESXi, but i don't know if that's down to generational gains in VT and so on | 16:15 |
| daftykins | i talk to the devs over in their channel here though, Olivier's cool | 16:15 |
| daftykins | as cool as the French can be ;) hehe | 16:15 |
| diddledan | they're certainly batting above their weight class :-) | 16:15 |
| diddledan | it's impressive what they've managed to pull together considering Citrix's XenServer wasn't completely OSS | 16:16 |
| daftykins | because of Andy's second biz plans there, i'm hoping we can add at least one host to paid support eventually with the XCP-ng team, $500/yr iirc | 16:16 |
| daftykins | yep - and the features they've got planned are very cool | 16:17 |
| daftykins | minimalist webUI on-host instead of having to run a management VM etc, plus i spotted virtual TPMs being considered | 16:17 |
| daftykins | have you got shared network storage already for all your hosts? | 16:19 |
| diddledan | atm they're running vsan | 16:19 |
| daftykins | ah ok so presumably vendor locked in | 16:19 |
| diddledan | yup | 16:19 |
| daftykins | i'm running RAID10s on SAS HBAs in each of my 2 | 16:20 |
| daftykins | they're really standalone but i put in a site to site VPN and added the other server to each, so i have management redundancy in essence | 16:20 |
| diddledan | I was wondering whether XCP-ng's vsan would be available for laypeople that are playing in their homelab | 16:20 |
| daftykins | hrmm might be worth joining us in #xcp-ng and seeing what the other guys make of things, since they've probably touched the more serious stuff | 16:21 |
| daftykins | there's a Matrix bridge bot i think the platform of choice is, for the team | 16:22 |
| diddledan | *yoink* | 16:22 |
| daftykins | :D | 16:22 |
| diddledan | if I can do away with the vmware £200/yr homelab thingy then that'ld be awesome :-) | 16:23 |
| daftykins | love having 128 GB RAM in both my hosts to play with | 16:23 |
| daftykins | hehe, absolutely | 16:23 |
| diddledan | I've only got 48GB in each of three boxes | 16:23 |
| daftykins | then you can buy that mega switch! | 16:23 |
| daftykins | aww | 16:23 |
| daftykins | that's not half bad though, plenty to muck about with | 16:24 |
| diddledan | yup, more than enough for me to play with.. the only thing I really need (want) to keep available is my plex server | 16:24 |
| diddledan | ... 17TB of video :-o | 16:24 |
| daftykins | :D | 16:25 |
| daftykins | can't recall if you were active the other day when i mentioned a dude come in who ran his entire setup from a single NUC - including his router, with a single 1TB SSD for both XCP-ng boot + all VMs, then it failed | 16:25 |
| diddledan | wow | 16:26 |
| diddledan | and eep | 16:26 |
| daftykins | he came in on his mobile with boot broken xD | 16:26 |
| diddledan | poor person :-( | 16:26 |
| daftykins | naturally he was not a paying customer and was getting a tad heated blaming the product... i eventually extracted a smartctl output, SSD lifespan was at 7% and had oodles of bad sectors and block errors D: | 16:27 |
| diddledan | I feel for them <3 | 16:27 |
| daftykins | i don't, he had no backups xD | 16:27 |
| diddledan | ... | 16:27 |
| * diddledan checks notes... oops, nor do I :-p | 16:27 | |
| diddledan | I have backups of stuff I can't reproduce tho | 16:28 |
| daftykins | redundant storage though? | 16:28 |
| * daftykins spots a tumbleweed | 16:28 | |
| daftykins | ;D | 16:28 |
| diddledan | worst comes to the worst if my boxes here die I have to re-rip my blurry discs | 16:28 |
| diddledan | on vmware I've got vsan set up with 1 redundant copy | 16:29 |
| diddledan | doing iti in software rather than via raid | 16:29 |
| daftykins | what's the main pool disk config behind the vmware vsan? | 16:29 |
| diddledan | vsan is similar to zfs in that it likes you to use an HBA rather than a raid card | 16:30 |
| daftykins | ah yeah, so handles disks directly | 16:31 |
| diddledan | so I have three boxes, and 2 copies of all data spanning the three available pools of disks - vsan does a JBOD like thing on each host and then does the redundancy over the network | 16:31 |
| daftykins | ooh-err, hope it does some periodic verification :D | 16:32 |
| diddledan | it still lets you lose a single disk without killing the entire host, tho, so it's as useful as a native raid | 16:32 |
| daftykins | mmm, or as good as RAID5 at least | 16:32 |
| diddledan | you know I'm unsure about whether it reverifies on the regular | 16:32 |
| diddledan | the idea is that you can lose an entire host without losing your data | 16:33 |
| daftykins | may be worth a poke, i set up Andy's Google Workspace SMTP relay from the management VM and pointed the iDRAC emails to it to ensure i get warned about the RAID10's | 16:33 |
| diddledan | (that's how I have it anywho) | 16:33 |
| daftykins | i get weekly notifications about the PERC doing some 'patrol read verify' | 16:34 |
| daftykins | gonna go pop the kettle on, bbs | 16:35 |
| diddledan | ☕ | 16:35 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrBw0pbF11s | 16:37 |
| luna | o/ | 16:41 |
| daftykins | heya | 16:49 |
| luna | hi | 16:49 |
| luna | yay Katie | 16:56 |
| daftykins | eh? | 16:56 |
| luna | just a Londoner i fancy | 16:57 |
| daftykins | 'tis danger afoot in the big smoke! | 17:09 |
| luna | well its COVID and i am unemployed | 17:09 |
| luna | :( | 17:16 |
| daftykins | can't be an enjoyable time of late, then? | 17:17 |
| luna | nah hard to go see someone irl | 17:17 |
| daftykins | *nod* | 17:20 |
| daftykins | it's weird to think of because it's life as normal down here on the islands | 17:20 |
| luna | oh | 17:20 |
| daftykins | aside from travel anywho | 17:21 |
| zxm-pi_ | yes but you've eliminated covid in the community and long may that continue | 17:22 |
| diddledan | no fair! | 17:31 |
| diddledan | although I'm getting my second prick tomorrow | 17:31 |
| daftykins | come now, none of us leave the house anyway! :D | 17:32 |
| diddledan | wait, that's a requirement? | 17:33 |
| daftykins | only to truly appreciate the freedom... so i'm told | 17:34 |
| diddledan | well that's shenanigans | 17:34 |
| daftykins | *nod* | 17:35 |
| daftykins | well HelloFRESH have tricked me today, each week you get automatic selections offered | 17:35 |
| daftykins | they sent me the recipe cards of the automatic offers, but the ingredients for what i manually picked | 17:35 |
| daftykins | is this hard mode? | 17:36 |
| diddledan | haha | 17:36 |
| daftykins | "make these tacos from this Thai curry set" | 17:36 |
| daftykins | uuuuuuh | 17:36 |
| diddledan | wait till you get to the final boss | 17:36 |
| daftykins | omw | 17:36 |
| daftykins | can't snapshot and restore ingredients :( | 17:36 |
| zxm-pi_ | this is where you type the ingredients into a find a recipe site and it gives you the menu? :-P | 17:39 |
| zxm-pi_ | *the recipe? | 17:39 |
| daftykins | maybe next week there'll be a padlock on the box | 17:39 |
| daftykins | i'm not sure i signed up for this D: | 17:40 |
| diddledan | this tweet of mine seems popular https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/eFfTgKRN/image.png | 17:43 |
| diddledan | in situ: https://twitter.com/diddledan/status/1387794037017616391 | 17:44 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:49 |
| daftykins | hmm, today's client has this old Panasonic phone system, calls itself an "Advanced Hybrid System" with what the manual says are "proprietary telephones" - what i'm wondering is whether with this in place, it's impossible for an ADSL service to function | 20:25 |
| daftykins | i'm beginning to think "yes" because at the wall socket, all of which are 8P8C - a modtap converts it to a standard BT plug... on popping in a microfilter, nothing functioned behind it :D | 20:28 |
| daftykins | i think it needs rewiring so the router connects to the line first, then i pipe the voice out of that one to this old system | 20:30 |
| daftykins | pretty funny... client goes to telco this morning and says he wants to upgrade from ADSL to VDSL - telco employee says "sir it shows here you have 3 phone lines" | 20:32 |
| daftykins | "oh my, cancel the other 2 please" client says - telco employee ignores that ADSL is on one, so the service disappears from the property entirely, i got called | 20:32 |
| daftykins | should thank them for all the extra business i suppose | 20:35 |
| zxm-pi_ | phone companies don't screw up small. they go full sledgehammer on you :-) | 20:46 |
| * daftykins pages Peter Gabriel | 20:48 | |
| diddledan | is "macOS Big Sir" a euphemism for a thingy? | 21:07 |
| diddledan | 🍆 | 21:08 |
| diddledan | "and this, this is my Big Sir" | 21:08 |
| daftykins | Big Sur! | 21:10 |
| diddledan | suits you, sur | 21:10 |
| daftykins | https://imgur.com/gallery/US2v5Ze | 21:10 |
| diddledan | wtf? | 21:11 |
| daftykins | i'm now picturing that lady from the BBC News that presents the Antique Roadshow, introducing a person having their elderly mother or father get appraised by an expert | 21:12 |
| daftykins | *Antiques | 21:13 |
| diddledan | "I'm afraid this piece is too damaged to be worth anything" | 21:14 |
| diddledan | you know the world has gone completely bonkers when you get: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/navvu8Ct/image.png | 21:17 |
| diddledan | drive-through oxygen from a temple | 21:17 |
| diddledan | and just like here, there's loads of folk saying what a great job the Indian Government is doing and that lockdown isn't needed | 21:18 |
| diddledan | I guess you get lunatics in every country | 21:19 |
| diddledan | in unrelated news, I'm worshipping the moon next week | 21:21 |
| daftykins | oh really? sorry i went to wash up D: | 21:44 |
| daftykins | and yeah arguably India has a lot more! | 21:45 |
| daftykins | solely due to population count of course | 22:14 |
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