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qwertuttytyTo test this, I will not install ubuntu-gnome. I don't want. It's easier for me to copy the files to format a USB flash drive to another file system and see.00:06
qwertuttytyubuntu-mate is installed. I will check it how in u-mate00:17
qwertuttytyi am writing from Windows host00:18
qwertuttytypidgin00:19
iseneI have an entry in crontab to run a script every hour (as root): 0 * * * * /bin/script00:58
iseneI can run the script manually,  but crontab doesn't run it00:59
sarnoldcheck root's mail, it may have an error in there00:59
sarnoldthe most common problem is usally the different PATH that cron sets than your interactive shell has00:59
isenesarnold: Thanks.  Will check00:59
sarnoldbut it's worth checking for errors in the email to try to find out what exactly it reported, if anything01:00
iseneI do run the same absolute path manually and in crontab...01:00
iseneBut will check root's mail01:01
qwertuttytyit looks like the recording on the usb flash has stopped at 160072 kB, I will still observe.01:02
qwertuttytyI wonder what it was. 160 MB was written and how often this will happen01:23
pytorchI want to run "apt update/upgrade" on all my servers using a single script. What is a good way to set this up?01:23
sarnoldpytorch: modify the unattended-upgrades package configuration to do what you want it to do01:28
pytorchsarnold: I would like to manually fire update/upgrade at times on a selection of servers.01:29
sarnoldpytorch: ah. ansible / chef / puppet things are popular for these kinds of tasks01:30
oerheksor maybe a multiple ssh connection, clusterssh01:31
oerheks!info clusterssh01:31
ubottuclusterssh (source: clusterssh): administer multiple ssh or rsh shells simultaneously. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.14-1 (focal), package size 146 kB, installed size 481 kB01:31
sarnold'or rsh'01:32
sarnoldwow :)01:32
pytorchthanks!01:33
pytorchI'll look into clusterssh/rsh01:33
sarnoldpytorch: ignore rsh :)01:34
sarnoldpytorch: ssh replaced rsh something like 22 years ago01:34
sarnoldso rsh showing up in the package descruiption suggests to me that it's pretty old :)01:34
pytorchboth rsh / clusterssh seem be less maintained than ansible01:35
oerheksansible and chef, one needs to know the tools and logic behind it.01:36
oerheksit is like using openoffice as a notepad01:37
pytorchseems like i'm going to use ansible01:38
qwertuttyty"qwertuttyty: not much in the idle writes ( if writes). ~ 1 mb per hour" - wrong01:42
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loganleehello folks!03:49
* loganlee runs ubuntu 20.4.1 LTS03:50
Bashing-omloganlee: Out of date ? >> Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS :D03:51
loganleeBashing-om: maybe i'm mistaken but it is ubuntu 20.4.* LTS03:52
amicrawlerhello03:55
amicrawleris there a work around for this finding noting on the subject03:55
amicrawlerfile:///run/user/1000/gvfs/ftp:host=192.168.0.5003:56
amicrawlercant view photos with out this loading all the time03:57
oerheksgvfs gnome firtual filesystem, must be related to a connected android, ftp, google photo or such, mounted on 192.168.0.5004:01
oerhekswhat is wrong with that?04:02
amicrawleri dont have a droid04:09
amicrawleri do use ftp04:09
amicrawleris there a way to unmount where ever is there ?04:10
tomreynamicrawler: gio unmount, or udisksctl unmount04:48
loganleehow do i remove a service file safely? do i do `systemctl disale blah.service` then delete that service file?04:50
loganleesystemctl disable blah.service04:50
Bashing-omloganlee: sudo systemctl stop <service> ; sudo systemctl disable <service> - a "disable" stops the service but it can be restarted by you or another process. A "mask" makes the service un-startable until you "unmask" it: ' sudo systemctl mask <service> .04:56
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HashHello, ubuntu updated dovecot to 2.3 but I want to downgrade for now to 2.2 how can I?07:54
lupuloHash, you could download the package and install with dpkg -i07:58
TheBigKlupulo: thats probably not gonna fly due to dependencies07:59
TheBigKHash: there are 2 ways to go about it. Compile the package by hand. That would mean that U can its working even tho u upgrade ur system. A downgrad is only supported to a previous version inside that distribution. If u use the older package from a different distribution... u need to know what ur doing and its probably not supported since u mixing distriubutions...08:02
HashIs it possible to pin it?08:10
HashOr a version08:10
HashPackage: dovecot-core08:11
HashPin: version 2.2*08:11
HashPin-Priority: 99908:11
Hashbut if you need dovecot* can do you that?08:12
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me-sudoer-dentneI need help with setting up mpd08:15
me-sudoer-dentnei am unable to use pulse with mpd08:15
me-sudoer-dentnecan someone just tell me the vague steps in setting it up08:16
legreffierwhat have you tried ? how does it fail ?08:16
me-sudoer-dentneshould i show the logs08:16
me-sudoer-dentnein bpas.te08:17
legreffieranywhere except here... any relevant info is a plus.08:17
me-sudoer-dentneit says couldn't connect to pulse08:18
me-sudoer-dentneand now its not even starting08:19
HashIs there any way to go back to 2.2 dovecot on 20.04? I Tried a few things but no luck in pinning08:45
HashI was on 2.2, and after updated, I'm on 2.3. Would like to downgrade. same ubuntu version 20.0408:46
lupuloHash, TheBigK says to you, you search the package 2.2, and download the tgz, after you try to ./configure and make install08:51
HashOh08:51
TheBigKthanks for clarifying lupulo ;)08:52
HashWhere can I find the 2.2 tgz in 20.04?08:52
HashI'm having trouble finding it08:52
TheBigKlol. no tgz for 20.0408:52
HashWHy?08:52
TheBigKu download the sources and compile by hand08:52
HashWhat happens to older packages?08:52
HashDont' you guys archive anything?08:52
TheBigKHash u dont understand the problem08:53
TheBigKobviously 20.04 is available with dovecot 2.208:53
TheBigKbut the problem is ur dependencies...08:53
TheBigKthe dovecot 2.2 package in ubuntu 20.04 has different depenendcies than it expects in ru 21.04 installation08:54
HashI don't have 2108:54
HashWhy are we alking about 21?08:54
HashI'm very confused.08:54
HashI have always been on 20.04. I accidentally did apt update. I got 2.3 now I want to go back to 2.2.08:55
TheBigKHash: am i crazy? did ubuntu lts rly cahnge the version of dovecot?08:55
TheBigKokay i got it... sorry... i misunderstood completely08:55
Hashyes, it broke my server.08:55
TheBigKim sorry08:55
TheBigKi would never thought that Ubuntu changes the major version of a package08:55
HashApparently so. And you can't even get the previous version through apt08:55
TheBigKlets see... apt-cache policy dovecot .. can u pastebin that for me?08:56
lupuloHash, you could use docker too, https://hub.docker.com/r/dovecot/dovecot/08:56
HashNo more complications. I just want to go bck to 2.208:56
HashNo more dockers nothing08:56
lupuloHash, Ubuntu should fix the defects in previous packages.08:56
Hashhttps://termbin.com/3ya008:57
HashWhat happened to the 2.2 packages?08:58
HashDid they just disappear in the Universe?08:58
HashWhy can't I just remove dovecot 2.3 completely, and apt-get install dovecot-core=2.2 or something?08:58
HashI am very confused by how ubuntu works08:59
HashWhy is it offering me major email server upgrade that breaks the server in an LTS release?08:59
HashIt should be frozen. No new version and only security updates.08:59
HashWhy is a new version coming into frozen? Is this not like debian? Do you not freeze an LTS/stable?08:59
HashWhere is the stability?09:00
HashI'm VERY confused.09:00
lupuloHash, sure it exists a developer channel of Ubuntu, you could ask about policy09:00
viktor_I know it's a stupid question, but i can't figure out the right syntax for this "ufw allow in from 192.168.1.1/255 to any port app Samba". Anyone?09:00
viktor_Hash: Have you looked into Debian?09:04
TheBigKHash: when did u do updates the last time? im also very confused09:05
HashI've no idea.09:05
TheBigKviktor_: that doesnt help him. his server is broken... :)09:05
HashI just now realized the mail server is down.09:05
HashI can't remember how long it's been down.09:05
HashWorst case scenario, I'm making a snapshot at this point. Then going to restore the snapshot from Dec 19 202009:06
HashThe last date I did one. Hoping that does the trick. If not, \o/09:06
TheBigKcan u pastebin the /var/log/apt/history.log ?09:06
TheBigKhash http://ubuntu-master.mirror.tudos.de/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dovecot/09:08
HashI already saw it there is nothing there regarding dovecot upgrade, just what I did today remove/reinstall etc.09:08
TheBigKwhats the actual reason that u want to downgrade from 2.3 to 2.2... i just came here wanting to downgrade...09:09
TheBigK* u just came here... :)09:09
lupuloHash, why a docker dovecot is not useful for you?09:10
TheBigKlupulo: if he doesnt know how to handle docker... it wont help right now to confuse him more ;D09:11
TheBigKlupulo: but ur right... docker could help him downgrading in a way...09:12
TheBigKlupulo: is there actually a major release upgrade done in ubuntu 20.0409:13
lupuloHash, you have the right version without destroy Ubuntu https://hub.docker.com/r/instrumentisto/dovecot09:13
HashAlright my friend09:13
Hashhttps://bpa.st/HUKQ09:13
HashLooks like we're a solid golden monkey right now09:13
TheBigKso u recovered the snapshot ?09:14
TheBigKor whats going on09:14
HashNo09:14
HashI grabbed the 2.2.33 from your link and voila.09:14
HashMy world makes sense once again.09:14
TheBigKokay... but u should be aware of the security risk09:14
TheBigKplease read changelogs and check if u can make 2.3 work somehow :)09:14
HashYes, current goal is to have business emails working again.09:15
TheBigKi get that. thats why i tried to help as much as i can09:15
HashI will figure out a new email setup soon. I'm tired of exim and dovecot.09:15
HashThanks for recognizing the priority09:15
TheBigKdovecot is the way to go... about exim i would agree on :D09:15
HashI have online shop, and lack of emails made a customer do a chargeback on a purchase09:15
HashAnyway. whew! what a night.09:16
TheBigKi wanna change to dovecot... but somehow im always to lazy :D09:16
HashGoing to apt hold dovecot packages. For now.09:16
TheBigKso many emails in my cyrus... :D09:16
Hashin 12 years I haave no email problems. It works fine. Just stupid stuff like this is small issue for few hours every few years.09:17
TheBigKwhat did the log say in terms of starting dovecot... may be the fix isnt as hard as it looks right now09:17
HashIt's worth the price tag.09:17
HashNo idea. Time to sleepy sleepy09:17
TheBigKokay... bye :)09:17
HashGood night! Thanks for your help09:17
HashAlso, it's very strange how ubuntu did this inside of an LTS.09:18
HashWhen debian is frozen, it's frozen. You can cont on it and rely on it.09:19
HashIt seems though 2.2 -> 2.3 is from ubutnu security...09:19
HashReally? Ubuntu does version uprades in an LTS from security too?09:20
HashThat's a really peculiar model. I will have to compare with debian.09:20
lupuloHash, you could try FreeBSD too09:26
lupuloport moved to mail/dovecot on 2019-02-0409:29
lupuloREASON: Has expired: End of Life upstream, use mail/dovecot instead09:29
lupulohttps://www.freshports.org/mail/dovecot22/09:29
lupuloit seems similar to Ubuntu09:30
lotuspsychjelupulo: lets not reccomend freebsd in the ubuntu support channel09:31
lupulook09:32
viktor_trying to set up ufw, but i seem to missing some small syntax thing. Anyone can tell me how i should write this: "ufw allow from 192.168.1.1/255 to app Samba"?09:35
viktor_want to limit the incomming ip-addresses to local and limit the rule to Samba09:35
lotuspsychjeviktor_: could try #netfilter if you like09:35
pikapikaDoes 21.04 have the option for xorg?10:05
lotuspsychjepikapika: yes, at login10:05
pikapikaOk, thank god10:05
pikapikalotuspsychje, is 20.04 xorg or wayland by default?10:06
pikapika(the lts version10:06
pikapika(the lts version)10:06
lotuspsychje20.04 has xorg by default, 21.04 wayland10:06
pikapikaOk10:06
pikapikaDoes that indicate the next lts (ie 22.04 lts) would be wayland default?10:06
ravage If it will still be the default in 21.10 then it is very likely10:23
ograpikapika, wayland will likely be the default in the next LTS, but as long as nvidia does not work with it there will always be a selectable xorg session (which will be the default for nvidia users automatically)10:52
parabytehi any rooms for mumudvb or digital tv linux?11:15
parabyteim having no luck getting mumudvb to work properly11:15
lotuspsychjeparabyte: mumudvb seems to be on the official repos, whats your issue exactly?11:17
parabyteWARN:  DVB:  Error : DVR buffer overrun11:17
parabyteand when i view a multicast stream i get a few seconds of sound and then vlc borks out, im assuming cause mumudvb decided to stop sending data11:19
parabytei get the same results across all popular video software projects mplayer etc11:19
agvantiboHello. I was trying to upgrade from focal to groovy and the installer crashed. Attempts to restart it were futile, and it corrupted sources.list. What do I do?11:20
parabytefire up a terminal emulator agvantibo11:21
agvantibosuper+t okay11:22
agvantiboaand?11:22
parabyteum you may want to check google for answers agvantibo but off the top of my head i believe sudo apt-get -f install is what you want11:23
parabytecheck with other users before you commit agvantibo as i am not a ubuntu user! but i am pretty certain that will tell apt to figure out whats going on and finish the install11:23
agvantibohttps://paste.gnome.org/phelxenee nope11:24
agvantiboYou do know what a sources.list is, right?11:24
agvantiboRIGHT?11:24
parabyteyes11:25
agvantiboDas good to hear11:25
parabyteagvantibo, do a google for failed ubuntu upgrade what to do!11:26
agvantiboI've tried update-manager -c -d and /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release-gtk to no avail either11:26
parabyteyou be surprised what google will throw up11:26
agvantiboand I've done my homework, believe me11:26
parabyteim a debian user unfortunately so some of my information maybe invalid for you11:26
agvantiboThat's why I am asking11:27
agvantiboparabyte, ok. It is probably too distro-specific11:27
parabyteagvantibo, if there is nothing special installed on your system, and you have a seperate home file system on your hard drive seperate from root maybe just reinstall the distro?11:27
parabytei know its fun learning new things, but sometimes just doing that saves so much time!11:27
agvantibouauuugh11:27
parabyteespecially when a distro like ubuntu gets confused and goes into dependency hell cause of apt11:28
agvantibono, I have too much important packages set up to just ruin it11:28
parabyteno thats fair enough, maybe bear my idea in mind, copy all the configuration for your packages to a usb key from etc11:28
parabyteworth a thought11:29
agvantibohttps://paste.gnome.org/pdu10rerx WOAH look what happened11:29
agvantiboIs that ok?11:29
agvantiboIs that what I want?11:29
parabyteface detection!11:29
agvantiboYes11:29
parabytelol i dont have that on debian11:29
parabytehave you pressed yes?11:30
agvantiboIt's called howdy and you could get it here: https://github.com/boltgolt/howdy11:30
agvantibonot yet11:30
parabytewell things are borked up already, i see no harm in telling apt to upgrade those packages?!11:30
parabytetake my advice with a pinch of salt!11:30
parabytebut just my opinion11:30
agvantiboI am unsure if it is okay with the destroyed sources.list11:31
parabytehang on11:31
agvantiboAnd the system is perfectly usable even across reboots (yet)11:31
parabytecant you edit the sources.list with the new release name11:31
parabytedo a apt-get update11:31
agvantiboSo my fear of breaking things should be understood11:31
parabyteand then try dist-upgrade11:31
parabytebut yeah this is sounding like breaking things you are right!11:32
agvantiboI've pressed Y...11:32
parabyteok!11:32
heller_hey guys. upgrading fom 16.04 LTS to 20.xx LTS. Anything to take note of?11:32
parabytewow thats a old release heller_11:32
heller_yeah, i  know11:32
lotuspsychje16.04 is still supported11:33
agvantibohttps://paste.gnome.org/pqxcqixqk Went smooth AFAIK11:33
agvantiboBrrr, I'm afraid to reboot now11:33
agvantiboAnd this is my ONLY pc and my ONLY daily driver.11:34
parabytelol11:34
parabyteoh no11:34
agvantiboWouldn't like to bork things up11:34
heller_so nothing special to think of? :)11:34
jkwnkihi, i installed sshfs. now when trying to mount my mobile device its complaining with: "fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first". on arch fuse3 is a dependency of sshfs11:34
parabytei installed coreboot onto one of my systems a few days ago and lost all system fans including psu fan! hahahah11:34
parabytetrying to debug why that is happening exactly11:35
jkwnkishould i install fuse3 separately?11:35
jkwnkiand why isnt fuse dependency of sshfs when its complaining about it?11:36
agvantiboheller_ I HOPE NO, 'CAUSE UPGRADING FROM 20.04 to 20.10 BROKE MY PC!11:36
agvantibo*late loud shouting warning*11:36
heller_what about the upgrading path. can i go from 16.xx to 20xx ?11:37
ravageim sure you have a backup made before started that process11:37
heller_or do i have to do 18.xx first?11:37
ravageyou can only upgrade from version to version11:37
ravageor lts to lts11:37
ravageyou cant skip one11:38
agvantibo /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release-gtk11:38
agvantibo/usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release-gtk:30: PyGIWarning: Gtk was imported without specifying a version first. Use gi.require_version('Gtk', '3.0') before import to ensure that the right version gets loaded.11:38
agvantibo  from gi.repository import Gtk11:38
agvantiboWARNING:root:timeout reached, exiting11:38
agvantiboalso this11:38
agvantibowhat the funk is this11:38
Venemohey guys11:40
Venemois it possible on ubuntu for a 32 and 64 bit library to coexist?11:40
VenemoI'm trying to install llvm-dev:i386 and it wants to uninstall a bunch of 64 bit packages11:40
agvantiboNo11:40
agvantiboUnfortunately11:41
Venemois this a recent regression? I was unaware that it stopped working11:41
Venemoand it works on other distros11:41
agvantiboWait wtf -dev is source code, right?11:41
Venemo-dev is the development package11:41
agvantiboYes11:41
Venemoit has headers, pkg-config files and such11:42
agvantiboOh. Oops11:42
ravageVenemo, Ubuntu has a 32 bit path for libs. so :i386 packages can coexist if installed via apt11:42
heller_how can i upgrade ubuntu without upgraind php?11:42
heller_i need to stick with 7.3. for now. Upgrade is trying to get me php811:42
ravageheller_, PPA11:42
Venemoravage: why does apt want to remove a bunch of 64 bit packages when I tell it to install llvm-dev:i386 ?11:43
heller_ravage: care to explain in short?11:43
ravagei dont know. it is defined that way in the package dependencies then11:44
ravagemaybe there are problems when both are installed11:44
ravageheller_, https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php11:44
Venemoravage: is this a bug that I should report somewhere, or is this intended behaviour?11:45
ravagebut PPAs are not supported here. so read the docs. there also like 1000 articles about this on google11:45
heller_any other ways?11:45
heller_can i just upgrade --without php or something? :)11:45
ravageVenemo, sounds very intentional to me11:45
ravageyou can upgrade or remove php first. then add the PPA11:45
ravageand reinstall 7.311:46
Venemoravage: I'd like to compile both a 64 and 32 bit version of mesa, so I need both the 64 and 32 bit versions of the llvm devel package11:46
ravageVenemo, i can't provide any specific information about that.11:46
VenemoI can do this on other distros, but not sure how to ubuntu11:46
VenemoI guess I'll just stick to other distros, thank you11:47
heller_also what about the upgrading path. go from 16 to 20 or first to 1811:50
ravageheller_, please read previous answers11:51
heller_right. was kinda waiting for a second option :p11:51
ravagereinstallation11:52
BluesKajHowdy all11:54
lunahey11:54
heller_heh. how can i install php7.3 without installing apache?12:01
Deano59no.12:06
ravageheller_, install php7.3-cli12:07
heller_thanks12:15
heller_how can i mark other packages to be automatically removed?12:15
ravagethat is not how that works. thats why it is called automatic12:19
ravagewhen packages were not directly installed and have to other dependencies the will be removed12:19
ravage*no other12:19
ravageso they are marked for removal automatically when appropriate12:20
Deano59BluesKaj: no need to swear at me in a PM! :(12:25
lotuspsychjeplease leave personal comments out of the support chanel Deano5912:26
Deano59lotuspsychje: then stop him from greeting the channel. it's off-topic.12:26
lotuspsychjeits not, we discussed that before12:26
ravagei would say it is polite12:26
BluesKajDeano59, have some common courtesy to others ...saying howdy or hello is not offtopic ...stop being so anally pedantic12:26
Deano59it IS. I asked him nicely to stop and get swore at. :)12:26
Deano59BluesKaj: this is a support channel. no need to say hello, howdy etc.12:27
BluesKajyou PM'd mewithout permission12:27
ravageDeano59, your PMs are actually off topic12:27
Deano59I give up :)12:28
BluesKajgood12:28
Deano59lol12:28
Deano59why do you greet a support channel? then 10 minutes later leave, it's OFF-TOPIC. simple. stop it. /join #ubuntu-offtopic or something. again, support channels don't need anyone saying howdy unless they have a support question afterwards. god sake. :D12:30
Deano59you won't hear off me again, unless I need support. bye. :D12:31
BluesKajdo you have a support question Deano59? if not then you should stop complaining12:31
Deano59yeah, need support to stop you greeting a support channel when there's no need :) I'm not in the wrong here.12:32
Maiksigh.... is it that time again?12:32
Deano59sure, I'll leave then.12:32
MaikDeano59: complain at the ops instead12:32
giacoI'm dealing with an hard disk that reports wrong total sector number. It is a 4TB drive but even dd and ddrescue create 2TB images12:33
jochenspHi, may systems have a libc6_2.31-0ubuntu9.3 whereas the latest version in focal-updates is 2.31-0ubuntu9.2, looks like the version was downgraded due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1912652/comments/15. Is there no guarantee that version in focal-updates are only incremented?12:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1912652 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Hirsute) "Upgrading libc6-lse breaks on systems it is in use" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:35
broylesquestion, is there a reason why internet access is needed to ad join in the installer?12:40
ravagebroyles, that whole AD thing is still a little mysterious. it lacks a lot of good documentation so far12:41
ravagein general i dont see any reason why internet access would be required12:42
broylesravage, indeed :( its one of the big features i am excited about in this version, we are looking at moving 60% of our desktops away from Windows, and that really got me excited! :) but noticed in the installer the option is grayed out unless the machine has internet access (by default all machines here are firewalled off for security)12:42
ravagei did not even find a way to join the AD outside the installer12:43
ravagei dont recommend using that in prodiction right now12:43
broylesravage, looks like i go back to original plan, deployment via pxe, and a package to configure the skel files for new users :)12:44
ravagegood plan. maybe we will see that feature production ready in the next LTS12:46
broylesyea indeedy!12:46
repzIs there a way to retrieve parition UUID through lsblk without rebooting after creating the partition (18.04) ?13:34
leftyfbrepz: try partprobe13:36
hggdh repz: or 'lsblk -o name,UUID,PTUUID,MOUNTPOINT' # output columns can be selected. See lsblk --help13:40
hggdhfset13:40
repzhggdh, thanks but in my casse uuid was `null`13:41
repzIT was only one host tho and don't having issue with others so its fine, thanks13:41
leftyfbhggdh: they just created the partition. It needs to be rescanned13:42
hggdhleftyfb: oh, indeed. Sorry13:42
rangergordHow can I tell what the default sans-serif font is on Ubuntu? Like if an application just sets the font to "sans-serif", how can I tell what this ends up using.15:09
rangergordUbuntu 20.0415:09
rangergordI got my answer in #linux. You can type "fc-match sans-serif" to get the font15:20
StyXmanI'm trying to upgrade kubuntu groovy -> hirsute and I'm getting plasma-desktop (upgrade, 4:5.19.5-0ubuntu1 -> 4:5.21.4-0ubuntu1) depends on plasma-desktop-data [universe] (= 4:5.21.4-0ubuntu1)16:09
StyXmanthe versions don't match, and there is no new version of plasma-desktop-data16:10
StyXmanany ideas what to do?16:10
StyXmanthen why apt finds it? plasma-desktop-data/hirsute,hirsute 4:5.21.4-0ubuntu1 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.5-0ubuntu1]16:11
tomreynStyXman: you're trying to upgrade it how?16:11
StyXmantomreyn: aptitude16:11
tomreynyou're doing a release upgrade using aptitude?16:12
StyXmanyes16:12
StyXmannot good?16:12
tomreynrelease upgrades are done using do-release-upgrade or the QT equiovalent16:13
tomreynthe approach you're taking hasn't been supported in *ubuntu for the past 10 years or so.16:14
StyXmanyeah, but I want the kind of control aptitude (a dselect before that) gives16:14
StyXmanuuuugh16:14
tomreynthe debian-like upgrade approach might still work, for the most part, but... see above.16:15
pavlosgiaco: can you paste "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX" X being the device ?16:16
jochenspany comments on my question above (libc6 downgraded in focal-updates)?16:18
tomreynjochensp: there are no automatic downgrades. i assume you're misinterpreting the statement you pointed to.16:20
jochensptomreyn: well, my apt history says that .3 was in focal-updates and now .2 is in there, so some downgrade happened16:20
tomreynjochensp: an earlier package version was restored on the archives, maybe the current version your system(s) already had was removed off archives. this does not make your systems downgrade to the earlier version, unless your systems are misconfigured.16:21
jochensptomreyn: sure, I'm not talking about downgrades on my system but in the apt repository16:21
ioriajochensp, .3 is in -proposed16:21
tomreynyour systems will, however, upgrade to the newer version that is released next16:21
jochenspioria: yeah, I saw that but .3 was in -updates before and now is not anymore meaning a downgrade in the repo which is a bad thing to do from my perspective16:22
jochenspI'm pretty sure we would not allow that in Debian, for example16:22
tomreynagain, it's not a "downgrade". a "downgrade" is actively replacing an installed package by an earlier version of the same package.16:23
pavlosgiaco: use gdisk or parted to create a 4TB partition16:23
jochensphow would you call the switch from .3 to .2 in focal-updates, then?16:24
jochensptomreyn: ^16:25
tomreyni would call the fact that a file was removed off an archive server a removal, depublishing, or similar.16:25
tomreynbut this is not really a support question, let's move to #ubuntu-discuss16:25
rfmStyXman, I checked my hirsute system and plasma-desktop-data 4:5.21.4-0ubuntu1 is there.  Maybe a typo in the sources.list line, or you're using a mirror with a problem?  (still might not work, but maybe you'd get farther..)16:28
giacopavlos: it was a faulty sata to usb controller17:32
giacoconnecting same disk straight to sata reported correct disk size17:32
kodiakfAnyone have the size of the Ubuntu Focal x86_64 mirror handy?  I have a daily mirror of archive.ubuntu.org but for bionic and focal and and I can't suss out how much is Bionic and how much is focal17:35
tomreynkodiakf: try asking in #ubuntu-mirrors17:37
shoober420hi frens17:37
shoober420im trying to compile sdl2 git master from scratch17:37
shoober420and need this patch17:37
kodiakfthanks didn't know that existed17:37
shoober420https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/media-libs/libsdl2/files/libsdl2-2.0.14-vulkan.patch17:37
shoober420this patch doesnt apply to sdl2 git master, any ideas why/17:38
tomreynshoober420: you may want to ask this in a C programming or libsdl related channel17:39
shoober420ok ok17:40
Maikgood evening17:58
jkwnkihi, how can i prevent creating ~/.motd_shown and ~/.sudo_as_admin_successful ?19:21
[VMGuy23]It just took >5min for ubuntu 21.04 CD to boot to installer19:23
matsaman[VMGuy23]: probably will only take that long for the install image, not a normally installed system19:24
matsamanso likely a non-issue altogether19:24
matsamanthe live OS has to work with virtually any hardware & firmware, it's not going to be perfect in all cases19:25
[VMGuy23]The installer shouldn't be that slow. And also, it's a reinstall. I know how long ubuntu takes to boot.19:25
matsamanreinstall? Why what happened?19:25
leftyfbjwheare: you'll be able to configure the location of the sudo file in sudo version 1.9.6 which isn't available in ubuntu yet19:25
sarnoldjkwnki: are you perhaps a zsh user? hunting around github for ~/.motd_shown suggests that's a zsh plugin or function19:25
TJ-[VMGuy23]: check the installer logs for clues... possible hardware issues19:25
leftyfbjwheare: https://github.com/sudo-project/sudo/issues/5619:26
[VMGuy23]TJ-: where and how and what do i loo for19:26
[VMGuy23]*look19:26
TJ-[VMGuy23]: did you start the installer using the "Try Ubuntu" option?19:26
sarnoldjkwnki: I think sudoers(5) entry lecture_status_dir may let you move the location of those sudo files19:26
[VMGuy23]TJ-: It took 5min to get to that screen, and only about 20sec after clicking that to get to desktop19:27
jkwnkisarnold: no, i have ubuntu on wsl. its running bash19:27
leftyfbjwheare: I don't seem to have a .motd_shown on any of my machines. Now sure how that one gets ..... bah ... WSL19:28
TJ-[VMGuy23]: open a terminal and examine "journalctl -b -xe" for indications of faults19:28
jkwnkibut thanks anyway. ill have a look at sudoers(5)19:28
leftyfbsarnold: not till version 1.9.6 as mentioned above19:28
leftyfbjkwnki: why do you care with WSL?19:28
sarnoldleftyfb: hmm, really? I'm on 1.8.31-1ubuntu1.2 and it's in my manpage, and I thought it'd been there since forever19:28
jkwnkileftyfb: wanted to have a linux cdm in win19:29
leftyfbjkwnki: huh?19:29
jkwnkis/cdm/cmd19:29
leftyfbjkwnki: I mean, why do you care if those files get created?19:29
[VMGuy23]TJ-: "Apr 29 19:28:57 ubuntu kernel: Lockdown: archdetect: /dev/mem,kmem,port is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7" plenty of times19:30
jkwnkiwanted to get rid of that mess :)19:30
jkwnkii dont see the purpose of these files inside ~19:31
sarnoldjkwnki: I haven't got a clue what creates that motd_shown message, so it's hard to say what exactly is creating it and why, but it probably means you won't see the motd every single time you ssh in or create a new terminal or something like that19:32
sarnoldjkwnki: the sudo one prevents you from getting the lecture every single time you run sudo19:33
jkwnkithank you sarnold19:37
TJ-sarnold: jkwnki  pam_motd.so19:51
tzanologood evening19:55
tzanolodoes could anyone help me:19:55
sarnoldTJ-: that was my first thought but I couldn't find it in the sources, using either rg motd_shown on my unpacked archives of all our pam packages, nor on debian code searc19:55
sarnoldTJ-: the cloests I found there was an environment variable19:56
tzanoloWhy sudo do-release-upgrade19:56
tzanolo doesnt show the new distro?19:56
TJ-sarnold: presumably an alternative due to WSL ?19:56
TJ-tzanolo: it's being held back for now (phased is the term)19:57
tzanolook thank you so much.19:57
TJ-tzanolo: there was a post about in it the ubuntu-devel mailing list19:57
sarnoldtzafrir: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2021-April/041448.html19:58
[VMGuy23]After reinstalling Ubuntu, I have graphics drivers!20:00
[VMGuy23]Working!20:00
matsamanneato, gj20:01
[VMGuy23]And I have 21.04!20:02
leftyfb[VMGuy23]: make sure you upgrade in 9 months20:03
[VMGuy23]Yep, always do20:04
[VMGuy23]I wait patiently for the day in which the next version is released always20:04
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[VMGuy23]quick, how do I do something with base64 (encrypt) and also decrypt, in my case a bash command20:31
calamariI have a PPA added that I'm not sure I still need. Is there a command (or series of commands) I can use to list all installed packages from a specific repository?20:31
[VMGuy23]Not sure20:32
calamari[VMGuy23]: man base64 should help20:32
[VMGuy23]Thanks20:32
calamari[VMGuy23]: np, another option: base64 --help20:33
matsaman[VMGuy23]: should work properly via stdin by default, but need -d for decode20:34
matsamannot actually really encryption20:34
[VMGuy23]Yeah I know, its more hiding a command20:35
[VMGuy23]With mpv installed, try this: "echo bXB2IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9ZFF3NHc5V2dYY1EK | base64 -d | bash"20:35
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calamari(found an answer to my question) https://askubuntu.com/questions/342434/find-what-packages-are-installed-from-a-repository20:36
sarnoldcalamari: oh sweet, thanks20:37
sarnoldI couldn't find anything that looked close, hehe20:37
[VMGuy23]I'm on 21.04 and legacy titlebars are using Ambience theme20:41
[VMGuy23]Why20:42
AavarI am used to using cinnamon, but I would like to try out wayland. What de should I install?21:13
leftyfbAavar: does cinnamon not support wayland?21:14
Aavarleftyfb: Does it? I tought not... *checking*21:15
leftyfbAavar: I was asking the question. I don't know21:15
Aavarleftyfb: It does not :(21:16
AavarIt should be noted that I am using a low end machine.21:18
leftyfbAavar: maybe try Ubuntu Mate21:18
Aavarleftyfb: Mate does not support wayland...21:19
AavarMaybe I should test Plasma...21:19
leftyfbAavar: you know you can just disable wayland and go back to xorg right?21:20
Aavarleftyfb: I am using xorg (cinnamon), but I would like to try Wayland :)21:21
leftyfbAavar: it sounds like maybe your hardware limitations that might not be a good option21:21
Aavarleftyfb: I was under the impression that wayland is more efficient than xorg (I am on Intel with Intel graphics)?21:22
shoober420hi frens21:55
shoober420if i want a program to use my system libs, instead of the bundled libs21:56
shoober420what is the best method, LD_PRELOAD?21:56
ravageLD_LIBRARY_PATH21:58
ravageChange the priority21:58
shoober420like how21:59
shoober420so like LD_LIBRARY_PATH=foo/foo/foo21:59
shoober420if theres multiple, would i use a ; and put a space right?21:59
ravageLooks what's it says now and add your lib path st first place. I think paths are separated by :21:59
shoober420oooh its a : ok22:00
sarnoldshoober420: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rpath .. has a link near the bottom to https://packages.debian.org/stable/chrpath and https://github.com/NixOS/patchelf -- probably one of these can do it by modifying the binary rather than environment variables, assuming I understood your question correctly22:00
ravageIf he just wants his on version of a library LD_LIBRARY_PATH is just fine. No need to preload or patch anything22:02
shoober420why is LD_LIBRARY_PATH prefered over LD_PRELOAD?22:02
ravage*own22:02
ravageBecause you don't want to preload anything22:02
ravageWith preload you usually hook into an existing binary22:04
shoober420ravage: i see i see22:05
shoober420its like sdl2 would become its own program in a way right?22:05
shoober420its like a bad hack22:05
ravagethe preloaded lib replaces calls in the original lib22:06
ravageIt is always kind of a hack yes22:07
shoober420ok i think i get it now22:10
badfilmsI'm trying to update the firmware of the Intel AX200, since it has a known issue with bluetooth dropping, but fwupdate isn't an option since I cannot do EFI capsule updates, and if I copy firmware files from the linux-firmware git repo and run update-initramfs, I am still stuck on the old firmware. What do I need to do to get this to work?22:26
badfilms*new firmware for the AX200 was pushed to the git repo on the 26th of April which, according to Arch forums, fixes the issue I mention22:27
ravageFirmware is usual loaded from /lib/firmware22:27
ravageNo need to put it the initramfs22:28
badfilmsCopying to /lib/firmware has no effect (in particular, /lib/firmware/intel/ibt-20*)22:28
ravageIf you overwrite the it should22:29
ravageThere is no other file to use22:29
jeremy31badfilms: firmware files won't help the bluetooth22:29
ravageAlso dmesg should show you which file was loaded during bootup22:29
badfilmsdmesg | grep Bluetooth shows the build for week 7. the newest firmware is week 1522:29
ravagei dont really know your chipset there. my dmesg says22:30
ravage[   16.815475] Bluetooth: hci0: RTL: loading rtl_bt/rtl8761b_fw.bin22:30
ravage[   16.817701] Bluetooth: hci0: RTL: loading rtl_bt/rtl8761b_config.bin22:30
ravageas an example22:30
badfilms[   20.536227] Bluetooth: hci0: Firmware revision 0.0 build 121 week 7 2021[   20.785456] Bluetooth: hci0: MSFT filter_enable is already on22:31
ravageif it does not use any external firmware you may just have to update it in your kernel22:32
badfilmsmodinfo btintel shows ibt-11* and ibt-12* firmware files, but so i am wondering if it is compiled into kernel22:32
jeremy31badfilms: you would have to look at upstream linux-firmware to see if there are any updates22:33
ravageyou can try to get the driver from intel22:33
badfilmsjeremy31: I currently have upstream linux-firmware. What specific updates are you referencing?22:33
jeremy31badfilms: if you already cloned the upstream, I don't think Intel offers anything for linux bluetooth on their website22:34
ravagethey do. but it always ends up in the upstream kernel22:35
ravagethey do offer the releases as a seperate download and have a git repo22:35
jeremy31ravage: the firmware is not part of the kernel22:35
ravageim pretty sure it is free for that chipset22:36
badfilmsI am running 5.12.0+ that was built as recently as today, but I have all the bt* drivers set as modules... so perhaps I just need to compile the kernel without any bt modules?22:36
jeremy31badfilms: have your tried changing the bt_coex parameter of the iwlwifi module?22:37
badfilmsjeremy31: I have not22:37
jeremy31badfilms: this will disconnect wifi but try> sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi && sleep 5 && sudo modprobe iwlwifi bt_coex_active=N22:38
ravageoh ok. it is not free. but the latest firmware they have is from 201922:38
ravageso i wonder if the firmware is really your problem22:38
jeremy31A lot of 2.4GHz wifi access points will cause issues with bluetooth22:39
badfilmsjeremy31: What am I looking for after that?22:40
jeremy31badfilms: see if bluetooth works better after22:40
ravageor if you can disable 2.4ghz wifi22:40
ravageits like IPv4. legacy but sometimes still needed22:41
badfilmsOh I see. It will take some time for me to check. The exact problem is that bluetooth audio cuts out for ~5-10 seconds, disconnects, and reconnects immediately.22:41
badfilmsBut it doesn't have obvious intervals. Sometimes it won't happen for an hour. Other times it will hapen multiple times an hour.22:42
jeremy31badfilms: It might be related to wifi power management too22:43
badfilmsThis problem seems to be isolated to bluetooth audio--at least that I can see. The probably began when my distribution did an update to the linux-firmware package on April 6th, which was I believe the firmware released to upstream in mid February22:44
badfilmsFWIW, I have not looked into the possibility of it being related to WIFI because I am on a desktop which is wired connected, though WIFI is only disabled at the OS level.22:45
ravageevery active device at 2.4ghz can cause trouble. does not have to be your laptop22:48
ravageor desktop22:48
badfilmsJust to clarify, do you mean that every device near me, regardless of whether or not it is connected to my system, can cause issues?22:48
ravageeven just operating your access point22:48
ravageyes22:49
ravagethey just use very similar frequencies22:49
ravagesome devices or APs handle that coexistence better than others22:50
ravage5ghz has its own problems like radar or PowerLAN22:51
ravagemore radar i think. powerlan has problems with your DSL signal sometimes22:52
badfilmsThe only real discussion I have found on this particular issue is on the Arch forums, but people seem to be reporting that downgrading firmware or, more recently, upgrading to the new firmware pushed to upstream on the 26th fixes the issue22:52
badfilmshttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=26304022:52
badfilmswhich is why I have been trying that approach. This system is relatively new (built in November 2020) but I haven't had any issues until the distro upgrade of linux-firmware on April 6th. I guess I could attempt a downgrade via apt, but I'd like to be able to fix this, or similar problems, in the future by using the git upstream. I just don't know why I can't get it to load the firmware I am22:56
badfilmscopying into /lib/firmware22:56
ravageare you sure you replace the right files?23:05
ravagemaybe just rename them. after a reboot your BT should fail. then you know it tries to load your files23:06
badfilmsaccording to linux-firmware.git, the files updated regarding the AX200 were ibt-20*.sfi. however, I just realized that I have not done a cold boot since copying the entire contents of the upstream linux-firmware, via ./copy-firmware.sh /lib/firmware, so I am going to do that and cross my fingers.23:07
ravageit says in that post that a normal reboot is not enough23:07
badfilmsYep. I'm hoping that is my mistake. I did cold boots after copying *just* the ibt-20* files, but I haven't done one since I did a complete copy23:08

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