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[13:45] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  focal desktop defaults to hwe kernel flavour. Becuase of hardware support. If kubuntu images use generic flavour they are out of line with what Ubuntu Desktop does.
[13:45] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  including for all the certified platforms. They use hwe or oem kernel flavours, not generic.
[13:46] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  it doens't make sense to declare something support for desktop, with a kernel flavour that does not have the hardware support or commitment from canonical.
[13:58] <niub> o/
[13:59] <niub> is there any plan to back port these patches https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/log/?h=v5.10.33&qt=grep&q=fast+commit
[13:59] <niub> to 5.4.0?
[14:24] <Eickmeyer> xnox: Your evaluation is incorrect. We have an agreement and authorization with Canonical to create this computer, and have been doing so for nearly two years. Kubuntu images use the HWE stack.
[14:25] <Eickmeyer> xnox: We just need that patch, and as I've said before, it's not just us that is affected. I can't go into too much detail here.
[14:26] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  i'm not sure what's incorrect in what i said. "generic + certified platforms" is not a supported combo on focal+. If you use HWE stack that's good. But then i fail to see why are you upset about "generic" not getting fixed?
[14:27] <Eickmeyer> xnox: I'm not. Read the bug report.
[14:27] <Eickmeyer> xnox: I was incorrect in filing it against "linux", and needed it against "linux-hwe-5.8".
[14:28] <Eickmeyer> xnox: For Focal, that is.
[14:28] <xnox> gotcha
[14:28] <xnox> ok, i'm glad that all the targets that you need are covered above then =)
[14:28] <Eickmeyer> Yep, we're good. Just waiting on some movement right now is all.
[14:29] <Eickmeyer> Unlike most OEMs, we're actually working with the OS directly instead of creating a derivitive.
[21:53] <Eickmeyer> xnox: FYI, we have found out that some Ubuntu-certified Dell machines have the same issue that we are.