[01:18] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> What package provides 'Lubuntu Arc' theme?
[01:24] <guiverc> Looking at https://packages.ubuntu.com/hirsute/lubuntu-desktop I see arc-theme https://packages.ubuntu.com/hirsute/arc-theme or https://packages.ubuntu.com/hirsute/all/arc-theme/filelist   but I'm unsure if it's what you're looking for
[01:26] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> I too saw arc-theme but was unsure as well..🤓
[01:26]  * guiverc would like to explore futher to be sure, but can't currently sorry  @saivinob  (what I see isn't what i expected)
[01:27] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> OK, may be I should take a look at lubuntu-artwork.
[01:35] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> Yes, it is what I was looking for.
[01:38] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> For the installer, under manual partitioning, shouldn't the 'boot' flag be actually 'esp' or 'efi'? If they are not the same, then shouldn't an additional 'esp' flag be available? It's a bit confusing what to select. Of course, not selecting anything flags the 'efi' partition as 'boot'. Just wondering.
[01:40] <guiverc> the terminology used is calamares default as I understand it..   you're not alone, I've had questions on askubu about it & written answers there
[01:41] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> Ah. Thank you.
[05:41] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> So, calamares does not have feature to connect to WiFi like ubiquity does? We have to be connected before hand?
[05:42] <guiverc> yep
[05:42] <guiverc> user's don't get the "Try or install" (--maybe-ubiquity like) option so have the capacity to enable wifi beforehand as they're in live mode
[05:43] <guiverc> installs are QA-tested with & without wifi though; so wifi isn't required
[05:46] <lubot> [telegram] <cyberpj> hi
[05:47] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> Ah, makes sense. Thanks. I'm doing baremetal install of impish. VM install was smooth. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> user's don't get the "Try or install" (--maybe-ubiquity like) option so have the capacity to enable wifi beforehand as they're in live mode)
[05:48] <guiverc> thank you & wow... (it hadn't occurred to me; feels rather early in the cycle for QA-testing... but thank you!)
[05:49]  * guiverc is surprised there are results already; @Leokolb & kgiii are already at it !
[05:52] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> 😀
[05:54] <guiverc> My box is running impish, I watch the packages as they update & i haven't noted anything yet that made me consider/want to QA-test  (busy on flavor 18.04 EOL, & other stuff somewhat)
[05:59] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> As you said, it probably is too early for QA-test. I just wanted to install it on my laptop as I'm planning to convert it into rolling rhino (wimpy's project). I somehow lost hirsute devel iso and hence was waiting for impish iso (rr script needs system to be devel not stable one).
[06:19] <guiverc> :)
[06:33] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> One thing I like immediately about calamares is that it respects my efi partition selection. I have multiboot setup with 2 efi partitions. The installers I have (had) tried so far *always* tried to install on /dev/sda1 even though I specifically set that as 'do not use' and choose my other efi partition. I guess there is bug report for it already. Calamares surprised me by not enabling any of the efi partitions automatically and 
[06:36] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> And it retained my WiFi settings from live session!! Wow...
[06:37] <guiverc> :)   Yeah I do like how wifi settings used in the live persistent after installation.
[09:37] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Maybe of interest - ran 3 tests on VM's - QEMU,VirtBox and Hyper-V - all run well
[09:57] <lubot> [telegram] <aptghetto> @saivinob A multiboot setup works with just one EFI System Partition (ESP). The behaviour of Ubiquity is in my opinion a design decision and not a bug.
[14:16] <agah> I think lubuntu's window manager should change
[14:16] <agah> now i am using xfwm and it is much more functional
[14:41] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> You are correct, even on multi-boot setup one EFI partition is sufficient. May be it is a design decision, but not a correct behavior. If I select the partition as 'do not use...', and provide another partition to meet the installer requirement (of EFI partition), it should respect that, instead of re-enabling it. I believe so, esp after I see Calamares capable of doing this. (re @aptghetto: @saivinob A multiboot setup works with
[18:16] <lubot> [telegram] <lynorian> @Leokolb thanks
[18:16] <lubot> [telegram] <lynorian> working on fixing it
[18:16] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> np (re @lynorian: @Leokolb thanks)
[18:22] <lubot> [telegram] <aptghetto> Ubuntu is a distro also for beginners. The installer tries to prevent user errors. And it is very difficult to decide whether a certain configuration is intented or an error.
[18:22] <lubot> [telegram] <aptghetto> You are right that it is technically possible to have several ESPs. But there is no technical reason to have more than one. (re @saivinob: You are correct, even on multi-boot setup one EFI partition is sufficient. May be it is a design decision, but not a correct behavior. If I select the partition as 'do not use...', and provide another partition to meet the installer requirement (of EFI partition), it should respect that, inst
[18:28] <lubot> [telegram] <aptghetto> In support forums I see a lot of people who try to do the wierdest things. I think the current behaviour of ubiquity avoids a lot of support threads.
[18:30] <lubot> [telegram] <aptghetto> But sometimes the behaviour is confusing. Maybe it will be better with the new installer?