[01:30] <lubot> [telegram] <saivinob> Hi, In UM (and perhaps other flavors(?)) 'Alt+F7' allows one to move window without having to hold down mouse-button. How can I do it in Lubuntu? I mean I can add a shortcut but what should go in command?
[02:08] <guiverc> @saivinob, shortcuts in the manual can be read at https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/F/keyboard_shortcuts.html  (change stable to lts for 20.04) ; https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.14/shortcut_keys.html for setting but sorry I don't know command
[14:38] <DJAnonimo> hello, on "raspberry pi" is it possible to enable ssh by crating a ssh file ?
[15:34] <Maik> DJAnonimo: this isn't a raspberry pi support channel, but a lubuntu one
[15:35] <Maik> for raspberry pi support join #raspberrypi
[15:36] <DJAnonimo> yea. people usually use raspbian
[15:36] <DJAnonimo> thats why I ask in lubuntu channel as i would like to tray lubuntu :)
[15:37] <DJAnonimo> *try
[15:37] <Maik> there's no lubuntu image for the pi
[15:41] <lubot> [telegram] <emergencyrussia> That should not be a big problem since one can deploy it by installing lubuntu-desktop package over minimal ubuntu (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <Maik> there's no lubuntu image for the pi)
[15:41] <Maik> @emergencyrussia or the server image for the pi
[15:43] <lubot> [telegram] <emergencyrussia> Yes. I didn't try it on RPI, but it works like a charm on other arm boards
[15:43] <lubot> [telegram] <emergencyrussia> Some of them even do not require minimal ubuntu image, just debootstrap in chroot to prepare rootfs
[15:58] <DJAnonimo> Maik: https://releases.ubuntu-mate.org/archived/16.04/armhf/
[16:07] <krytarik> That's all sorts of elapsed though..
[16:11] <Maik> DJAnonimo: that's Ubuntu mate and 16.04 just like 18.04 are EOL (End Of Life) And not supported anymore
[16:14] <DJAnonimo> Maik: no, open the link, there is xubuntu, lubuntu and mate
[16:14] <DJAnonimo> lubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi.img.xz 707MB
[16:15] <Maik> DJAnonimo: they are End Of Life
[16:15] <Maik> you can't use them anymore
[16:16] <Maik> End Of Life = No more updates
[16:18] <kc2bez[m]> DJAnonimo:  If you want to use a pi and Lubuntu take a look at our forum post. https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/raspberry-pi-installation/2050?u=kc2bez
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[16:42] <DJAnonimo> Maik: interesting link
[16:44] <Maik> DJAnonimo: i didn't post it
[16:44] <DJAnonimo> but few months ago when I was setting up my "orange pi" I noticed that newer ubuntu versions took longer to boot. on orange pi I run 16.04 cause of faster boot
[16:44] <Maik> DJAnonimo: that has nothing to do with lubuntu support questions imho
[16:45] <DJAnonimo> yea
[16:45] <Maik> there's #lubuntu-offtopic if you like
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[19:05] <JohnDoe_71Rus> update for 16.04 available till 2024, use Ubuntu Advantage.  https://ubuntu.com/advantage
[19:06] <krytarik> Except that doesn't cover the flavors which are community-maintained..
[19:07] <teward> JohnDoe_71Rus: hi, Ubuntu Developer here.  LTS support for UA via ESM is only for certain core Security packages.
[19:07] <teward> and only via a contract with Canonical
[19:07] <teward> it does NOT mean that bugs, etc. in the specific flavors themselves UNRELATED to those core SEcurity-maintained packages and Security fixes only wil ever get addressed.
[19:08] <teward> ESM (in regards to Desktops) is designed to permit temporary ongoing usage of the systems where there's no other choice, however it's not a replacement for full support, AND is not supported in the IRC chat rooms (because End of Standard Support will have passed)
[19:08] <teward> There's guidance on this being released by Canonical in the upcoming weeks regarding this ^^ in more detail, but it will NOT cover Lubuntu in terms of bug fixes and ongoing support.
[19:09] <teward> (and you don't get any paid support from Canonical unless you pay for things, and that is specific to security issues, not really anything more)
[19:09] <teward> cc kc2bez kc2bez[m] krytarik wxl, in case someone wants to write this up in detail on the Lubuntu Discourse.
[19:16] <krytarik> Since this a cross-flavor topic, I believe it'd better if there was a general reference though.
[19:17] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> krytarik: agreed, that's where Canonical's going to be coming out with something
[19:17] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> but in the interim, Lubuntu can still post clarifications ;)
[19:23] <krytarik> But I'm not the person to wink at here! :P
[19:24] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> i'm winking at everyone :P
[19:24] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> 'course i could write it up too
[19:24] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> but right now i have bigger fish to fry
[19:25] <krytarik> "ESM on flavors: Forget you saw anything!" XD
[19:27] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> lol
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