[01:15] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> kc2bez: yep saw
[01:15] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> @The_LoudSpeaker i been dead all day sorry :P
[01:16] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> @The_LoudSpeaker you should be able to tell them to reg with their Debian address (debian.org)
[01:16] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> if they don't have one then they need to email the Council to request, and I'll process and add.
[01:16] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> the problem is that we got a maaaaaaaaaasive influx of spammers the past year so we did some security restrictions there xD
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[14:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> Kaay. I will ask them to register using debian address
[14:16] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> The_LoudSpeaker: thank you kindly!
[14:18] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, can anyone share a script or list of commands that they are using for their sbuilder setups?
[14:18] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> from scratch?  Yeah I can.
[14:18] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> from envbuild to execution of builds in the schroots from it, i can.
[14:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> I didn't check earlier and moved to fedora as my main distro. Lxc doesn't work properly on Fedora. I gotta use sbuild or chroots now. Or docker images. 
[14:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001 yes please. Thanks!
[14:20] <kc2bez[m]> I more or less follow the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[14:20] <kc2bez[m]> I only change the lintian stuff really.
[14:21] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> ^^ that
[14:21] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> but i have some extra stuff I toss into devscripts and the sbuild rc because of how I need to build envs.
[14:22] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> and i have a TON of extra stuff I toss in for when I'm testing against -proposed
[14:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> I actually wrote a dockerfile for creating custom debian:sid images with required essential packages like nano debhelper, etc. I use that image to create and nuke containers. For creating impish dockerfile, there's a bug in docker currently. It will need some time.
[14:23] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> oh that reminds me... *tests Impish schrooting*
[14:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> kc2bez[m]: yes. I used to follow that create my chroots earlier. But it's a long process. If someone has it all in a script then it would be nice. Else I gotta write one for myself.
[14:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001 send your scripts. I will remove extra stuff I don't need.
[14:24] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> give me some time, i'm doing FT job stuff ;)
[14:24] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> and there's a lot of things in here so stdby
[14:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yeah. At your convenience.
[14:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, is there a way to create small qemu ubuntu VMs using virsh ?
[14:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> I found images here: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[14:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> Downloading and untarring a few now.
[14:28] <kc2bez[m]> Sure but you might as well add Virtual Machine Manager so you don't need to remember all that. It doesn't really add any overhead.
[14:57] <teward> The_LoudSpeaker: there's a lot of manual stuff you have to do for `sbuild` unless your environment is on the latest and greatest Ubuntu.  Hence why there's no full-deployment script for building sbuild environments from scratch.  I can try and concatenate everything into a single script but that'll take more time than providing what I've got.
[14:58] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> the inital sbuild setup on SimpleSbuild is only 9 steps (skip the optionals)
[14:58] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> the rest are more informative commands you can run if you need to
[15:01] <kc2bez[m]> I think the mounting your home directory optional step is handy but certainly not required.
[15:02] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> @kc2bez it's required inside the schroot
[15:02] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> because everything writes to the scratch dir.
[15:02] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> which is *in* your home dir
[15:03] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> oh you mean the other hints one
[15:03] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> you're right
[15:03] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> but i meant the actual steps to get started
[15:03] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> not the extra hints
[15:03] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> i.e. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild#Creating_the_schroots specificlaly
[15:03] <kc2bez[m]> yeah that
[15:04] <kc2bez[m]> I didn't think it took too long for the whole thing really.
[15:04] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> it doesn't.
[15:04] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> that said, you *have* to mount your home directory if you have an *encrypted* home dir
[15:04] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> that's a different issue
[15:04] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> because that part says "If you use an encrypted home directory, your $HOME is mounted differently, so you will have to add"
[15:04] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> OTHERWISE it's pretty straightforward
[15:05] <kc2bez[m]> Just LUKS encrypt the whole thing and then you don't need to worry about it. It unlocks on boot.
[15:05] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> lol
[15:05] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> the only thing not covered here is if you're NOT using the latest version of Ubuntu as your sbuild/dev env
[15:05] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> then you have to do some things for workarounds
[19:15] <kgiii> I learned that I could install the daily and then use apt to update/upgrade as new dailies were released. So, I have an installation that is also testing this. It's not actually one of the mandatory tests, but could prove useful. Is there anywhere that I should be reporting that? (Also, I've had little free time in the past week.)