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lotuspsychjegood morning01:57
lordievaderGood morning06:24
lotuspsychjeo/09:06
lotuspsychjeaffected, commented and added bug #1888934 to the -discuss bug team as its a returning issue/bug09:38
ubot5bug 1888934 in indicator-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "Indicator is shown twice" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188893409:38
TJ-lotuspsychje: it's a systemd service. Is something else starting it? check the service status with "systemctl --user indicator-bluetooth.service09:42
TJ-lotuspsychje: also check how it is launched; could be dbus. "systemctl --user cat indicator-bluetooth.service"09:43
lotuspsychjeTJ-: stacer shows 2 services; blueman-mechanism & bluetooth service enabled & running and in startup items; blueman-applet is enabled09:45
TJ-lotuspsychje: what were the most recent updates that could cause that?09:46
lotuspsychjehttps://dpaste.org/jzZt09:46
TJ-don't have indicator-bluetooth on here09:46
lotuspsychjeTJ-: i see the bug filer has cinnamon, i wonder if its doubling because i also got cinnamon as login option and some other desktops like unity and gnome classic09:48
TJ-is it possible blueman is starting its own icon - I've seen that before where there is the bluetooh indicator in the taskbar panel as well09:49
TJ-lotuspsychje: aha! you mentioned unity09:49
TJ-apt-file list indicator-bluetooth reported there's a unity file too:09:49
TJ-indicator-bluetooth: /usr/share/unity/indicators/com.canonical.indicator.bluetooth09:49
TJ-the package has 'starters' for systemd, unity, and upstart... maybe that is it09:50
lotuspsychjebut the bug filer doesnt have unity i presume?09:50
TJ-we don't have that info. If they're using cinnamon they may experiment with others09:51
lotuspsychjei also had this double indicators before at some random boots09:51
lotuspsychjeso purge unity first as a test?09:52
TJ-no! just divert that file09:52
TJ-but if unity isn't being started I doubt that'd be used09:53
lotuspsychjei dont see recent BT related updates in dpkg logs neither09:53
TJ-it won't be BT, it'll be something to do with the desktop environments09:53
lotuspsychjei bet if i reboot its gonna be gone too09:54
lotuspsychjewhat do you mean with diverting file?09:55
TJ-figure out what /could be/ causing the indicator to load, and temporarily divert those (rename/move/whatever)09:56
TJ-for example - try disabling the service "systemctl --user disable indicator-bluetooth.service" - we would expect there to be only on icon then ... so then figure out what started it (maybe "ps -efly | grep indicator-bluetooth" and look at the parent process ID) and investigate09:57
TJ-s/only on/only one/09:57
lotuspsychjeS lotusps+ 3163967 2898450  0  80   0   724  2267 pipe_w 11:57 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto indicator-bluetooth09:58
lotuspsychjeuse disable didnt affect the indicators, both still going09:58
TJ-it won't you'd have to 'stop' the service. disable prevents its running that service next time09:59
TJ-"systemctl --user stop indicator-bluetooth.service"09:59
lotuspsychjeno dice neither09:59
TJ-did 'status' show the service running, earlier?10:04
TJ-since if it wasn't then what we've done wouldn't change things10:04
lotuspsychje indicator-bluetooth.service - Indicator Bluetooth Backend10:07
lotuspsychje     Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/indicator-bluetooth.service; static; vendor preset: enabled)10:07
lotuspsychje     Active: inactive (dead)10:07
TJ-ok, so possibly you stopped it. does the excerpt from the log there show it being stopped (timestamp should give a clue if it was you)10:08
lotuspsychjein stacer they both show stopped now10:10
TJ-and are the icons still there ?10:11
lotuspsychjeyeah weird heh10:11
TJ-ahh, so maybe there is only one service but the panel is the fault10:11
TJ-as I said earlier - probably to do with whatever handles the desktop env10:11
lotuspsychje2 blueman-tray shows in gnomes systemmonitor10:12
lotuspsychjehmm and bluemand-applet too10:12
lotuspsychjeTJ-: the indicators do show a red cross10:15
lotuspsychjeso maby its baked into gnome somehow now10:16
lotuspsychjei know they recently replaced this indicator to switch with gnomes BT few months ago or so10:16
TJ-that might be it10:19
lotuspsychjeor maybe one of the other desktops confuses with gnomes panel/bt tray10:21
lotuspsychjelets say one installs cinnamon or unity it fights to get the tray launched first or something10:22
TJ-it may be that both add an entry in the autostart directory10:38
lotuspsychjedconf-editor doesnt show values for cinnamon or unity BT though10:39
lotuspsychjejust org/gnome/shell10:39
lotuspsychjeand org/blueman10:39
lotuspsychjeweirdness10:40
TJ-how about "ls ~/.config/autostart/"10:40
lotuspsychjeignore-lid-switch-tweak.desktop  xscreensaver.desktop10:42
alf1975Can any one say where to change the max numbers of pages ? in Ubuntu ?11:16
alf1975change /etc/cups/printers.conf ????11:16
daftykinsit's not remotely clear what you mean11:17
alf1975After the question a high latency in com ?11:26
alf1975i am helping11:27
alf1975any one from Canonical ?11:27
alf1975The Boss is David Gilmour11:27
alf1975i am in testing, SysAdmin11:27
daftykinsah ok troll confirmed, bye11:27
alf1975National Security Agency11:27
alf1975Confirm Richard Allan11:28
alf1975Alpha Tango Foxtrot11:28
alf1975i am helping11:30
oerheksdaftykins, trolls are just lonely people11:30
alf1975the configuration of printers11:30
alf1975must be protected11:31
alf1975the configurantion and binarys must be in a sandbox like OSX11:31
alf1975yes depends of the rank in armed forces ... oerheks11:31
* ogra guesses thats caused by living under bridges ...11:32
daftykins:D11:32
alf1975Fort Meade11:32
alf1975Maryland, U.S.11:32
alf1975AOC AOC AOC11:33
alf1975with  no ranks in here we level11:33
lotuspsychjethere was an alternate shop with ubuntu tshirts JonJ13:39
lotuspsychjehttps://enventelibre.org/en/ubuntu-fr/190-t-shirt-ubuntu-hirsute-hippo.html13:40
lotuspsychjei dont think canonical will plan a new shop13:41
JonJYeah, I've been aware of that shop, bought my Debian swiss army knife from there13:41
lotuspsychjeare there items on your wishlist JonJ ?13:42
JonJI had a couple of hats that I've unfortunately ruined :p13:42
lotuspsychjei think i had a discuss with leftyfb about ubuntu stickers once if i recalled well13:42
JonJtbh I was perusing the Red Hat coolstuff store and I was just reminded that I need to check out if Canonical had reopened their shop and went to find out if it was permanent or not13:43
lotuspsychjeJonJ: i think these days you can easy create your own stuff on online print shops, doing logo's on everything13:47
lotuspsychjei created like 200 usb sticks with my company logo on it pretty cheap13:47
leftyfblotuspsychje: funny you should mention those: https://photos.app.goo.gl/frGSxNQnNcEsNbJb713:52
leftyfblotuspsychje: I just found a batch over the weekend13:52
lotuspsychjehaha cool!13:52
lotuspsychjethink oerheks got one of those on his boxes13:53
leftyfbthese weren't from Canonical though. I was part of the LoCo team and helped design and ship these all over the world13:53
lotuspsychjesweet13:53
oerheksno, i have those plastic patches13:54
oerhekshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/w6ywqjtkr73t8vg/2018music.png?dl=013:54
leftyfbah, I had some of those13:55
oerheksthey came in orange and white, now i need one for my new laptop13:55
leftyfbI had it over the Dell logo on my previous XPS13:55
lotuspsychjeahh13:55
leftyfbI might even have another one somewhere13:56
lotuspsychjenice music station oerheks13:56
lotuspsychjein the samsung 850 pro boxes there was ssd stickers, but now they dont anymore13:58
lotuspsychjeor maybe some types13:59
lotuspsychjehttps://media.karousell.com/media/photos/products/2017/03/05/samsung_ssd_activated_sticker_1488692695_49e0c2e9.jpg14:00
Maikwho are the ops here?14:23
leftyfbI think I might be one here14:36
leftyfbwhy?14:37
jeremy31Maik: /msg chanserve access #ubuntu-discuss list14:38
jeremy31chanserv14:38
Maikleftyfb: because of alf197514:40
leftyfbah, I missed that14:41
leftyfbthey're not here now though14:41
Maikhe already has been banned in #kubuntu #fedora and other channels because he just won't listen and keeps posting annoying offtopic chit-chat stuff14:41
Maikstill can ban him even if he's not here14:41
jeremy31Can ban his account14:42
JimBuntulooks almost like a bot, given the odd flow of not-conversation14:42
Maikif that doesn't work then i'll request a network ban for him over at freenode since he's pulling the same stuff off in other channels14:42
Maikhe also joined #ubuntu-irc earlier i have seen14:43
JimBuntuneed to join the logs, might have been re-posting select responses from one channel into another14:43
Maiknot to forget he spamming the same stuff via PM yo me14:44
Maikyo/to14:44
JimBuntuyeah, sounds mechanized.  You directly interacted, so you became part of the source material I imagine.14:44
Maikpretty sure they are no bot14:46
Maikbrb14:47
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