[01:57] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:24] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> o/
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> affected, commented and added bug #1888934 to the -discuss bug team as its a returning issue/bug
[09:38] <ubot5> bug 1888934 in indicator-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "Indicator is shown twice" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1888934
[09:42] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: it's a systemd service. Is something else starting it? check the service status with "systemctl --user indicator-bluetooth.service
[09:43] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: also check how it is launched; could be dbus. "systemctl --user cat indicator-bluetooth.service"
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: stacer shows 2 services; blueman-mechanism & bluetooth service enabled & running and in startup items; blueman-applet is enabled
[09:46] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: what were the most recent updates that could cause that?
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> https://dpaste.org/jzZt
[09:46] <TJ-> don't have indicator-bluetooth on here
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i see the bug filer has cinnamon, i wonder if its doubling because i also got cinnamon as login option and some other desktops like unity and gnome classic
[09:49] <TJ-> is it possible blueman is starting its own icon - I've seen that before where there is the bluetooh indicator in the taskbar panel as well
[09:49] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: aha! you mentioned unity
[09:49] <TJ-> apt-file list indicator-bluetooth reported there's a unity file too:
[09:49] <TJ-> indicator-bluetooth: /usr/share/unity/indicators/com.canonical.indicator.bluetooth
[09:50] <TJ-> the package has 'starters' for systemd, unity, and upstart... maybe that is it
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> but the bug filer doesnt have unity i presume?
[09:51] <TJ-> we don't have that info. If they're using cinnamon they may experiment with others
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> i also had this double indicators before at some random boots
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> so purge unity first as a test?
[09:52] <TJ-> no! just divert that file
[09:53] <TJ-> but if unity isn't being started I doubt that'd be used
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> i dont see recent BT related updates in dpkg logs neither
[09:53] <TJ-> it won't be BT, it'll be something to do with the desktop environments
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> i bet if i reboot its gonna be gone too
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> what do you mean with diverting file?
[09:56] <TJ-> figure out what /could be/ causing the indicator to load, and temporarily divert those (rename/move/whatever)
[09:57] <TJ-> for example - try disabling the service "systemctl --user disable indicator-bluetooth.service" - we would expect there to be only on icon then ... so then figure out what started it (maybe "ps -efly | grep indicator-bluetooth" and look at the parent process ID) and investigate
[09:57] <TJ-> s/only on/only one/
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> S lotusps+ 3163967 2898450  0  80   0   724  2267 pipe_w 11:57 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto indicator-bluetooth
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> use disable didnt affect the indicators, both still going
[09:59] <TJ-> it won't you'd have to 'stop' the service. disable prevents its running that service next time
[09:59] <TJ-> "systemctl --user stop indicator-bluetooth.service"
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> no dice neither
[10:04] <TJ-> did 'status' show the service running, earlier?
[10:04] <TJ-> since if it wasn't then what we've done wouldn't change things
[10:07] <lotuspsychje>  indicator-bluetooth.service - Indicator Bluetooth Backend
[10:07] <lotuspsychje>      Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/indicator-bluetooth.service; static; vendor preset: enabled)
[10:07] <lotuspsychje>      Active: inactive (dead)
[10:08] <TJ-> ok, so possibly you stopped it. does the excerpt from the log there show it being stopped (timestamp should give a clue if it was you)
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> in stacer they both show stopped now
[10:11] <TJ-> and are the icons still there ?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> yeah weird heh
[10:11] <TJ-> ahh, so maybe there is only one service but the panel is the fault
[10:11] <TJ-> as I said earlier - probably to do with whatever handles the desktop env
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> 2 blueman-tray shows in gnomes systemmonitor
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> hmm and bluemand-applet too
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: the indicators do show a red cross
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> so maby its baked into gnome somehow now
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> i know they recently replaced this indicator to switch with gnomes BT few months ago or so
[10:19] <TJ-> that might be it
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> or maybe one of the other desktops confuses with gnomes panel/bt tray
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> lets say one installs cinnamon or unity it fights to get the tray launched first or something
[10:38] <TJ-> it may be that both add an entry in the autostart directory
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> dconf-editor doesnt show values for cinnamon or unity BT though
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> just org/gnome/shell
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> and org/blueman
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> weirdness
[10:40] <TJ-> how about "ls ~/.config/autostart/"
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> ignore-lid-switch-tweak.desktop  xscreensaver.desktop
[11:16] <alf1975> Can any one say where to change the max numbers of pages ? in Ubuntu ?
[11:16] <alf1975> change /etc/cups/printers.conf ????
[11:17] <daftykins> it's not remotely clear what you mean
[11:26] <alf1975> After the question a high latency in com ?
[11:27] <alf1975> i am helping
[11:27] <alf1975> any one from Canonical ?
[11:27] <alf1975> The Boss is David Gilmour
[11:27] <alf1975> i am in testing, SysAdmin
[11:27] <daftykins> ah ok troll confirmed, bye
[11:27] <alf1975> National Security Agency
[11:28] <alf1975> Confirm Richard Allan
[11:28] <alf1975> Alpha Tango Foxtrot
[11:30] <alf1975> i am helping
[11:30] <oerheks> daftykins, trolls are just lonely people
[11:30] <alf1975> the configuration of printers
[11:31] <alf1975> must be protected
[11:31] <alf1975> the configurantion and binarys must be in a sandbox like OSX
[11:31] <alf1975> yes depends of the rank in armed forces ... oerheks
[11:32]  * ogra guesses thats caused by living under bridges ...
[11:32] <daftykins> :D
[11:32] <alf1975> Fort Meade
[11:32] <alf1975> Maryland, U.S.
[11:33] <alf1975> AOC AOC AOC
[11:33] <alf1975> with  no ranks in here we level
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> there was an alternate shop with ubuntu tshirts JonJ
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> https://enventelibre.org/en/ubuntu-fr/190-t-shirt-ubuntu-hirsute-hippo.html
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> i dont think canonical will plan a new shop
[13:41] <JonJ> Yeah, I've been aware of that shop, bought my Debian swiss army knife from there
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> are there items on your wishlist JonJ ?
[13:42] <JonJ> I had a couple of hats that I've unfortunately ruined :p
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> i think i had a discuss with leftyfb about ubuntu stickers once if i recalled well
[13:43] <JonJ> tbh I was perusing the Red Hat coolstuff store and I was just reminded that I need to check out if Canonical had reopened their shop and went to find out if it was permanent or not
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> JonJ: i think these days you can easy create your own stuff on online print shops, doing logo's on everything
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> i created like 200 usb sticks with my company logo on it pretty cheap
[13:52] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: funny you should mention those: https://photos.app.goo.gl/frGSxNQnNcEsNbJb7
[13:52] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: I just found a batch over the weekend
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> haha cool!
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> think oerheks got one of those on his boxes
[13:53] <leftyfb> these weren't from Canonical though. I was part of the LoCo team and helped design and ship these all over the world
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> sweet
[13:54] <oerheks> no, i have those plastic patches
[13:54] <oerheks> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6ywqjtkr73t8vg/2018music.png?dl=0
[13:55] <leftyfb> ah, I had some of those
[13:55] <oerheks> they came in orange and white, now i need one for my new laptop
[13:55] <leftyfb> I had it over the Dell logo on my previous XPS
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> ahh
[13:56] <leftyfb> I might even have another one somewhere
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> nice music station oerheks
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> in the samsung 850 pro boxes there was ssd stickers, but now they dont anymore
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> or maybe some types
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> https://media.karousell.com/media/photos/products/2017/03/05/samsung_ssd_activated_sticker_1488692695_49e0c2e9.jpg
[14:23] <Maik> who are the ops here?
[14:36] <leftyfb> I think I might be one here
[14:37] <leftyfb> why?
[14:38] <jeremy31> Maik: /msg chanserve access #ubuntu-discuss list
[14:38] <jeremy31> chanserv
[14:40] <Maik> leftyfb: because of alf1975
[14:41] <leftyfb> ah, I missed that
[14:41] <leftyfb> they're not here now though
[14:41] <Maik> he already has been banned in #kubuntu #fedora and other channels because he just won't listen and keeps posting annoying offtopic chit-chat stuff
[14:41] <Maik> still can ban him even if he's not here
[14:42] <jeremy31> Can ban his account
[14:42] <JimBuntu> looks almost like a bot, given the odd flow of not-conversation
[14:42] <Maik> if that doesn't work then i'll request a network ban for him over at freenode since he's pulling the same stuff off in other channels
[14:43] <Maik> he also joined #ubuntu-irc earlier i have seen
[14:43] <JimBuntu> need to join the logs, might have been re-posting select responses from one channel into another
[14:44] <Maik> not to forget he spamming the same stuff via PM yo me
[14:44] <Maik> yo/to
[14:44] <JimBuntu> yeah, sounds mechanized.  You directly interacted, so you became part of the source material I imagine.
[14:46] <Maik> pretty sure they are no bot
[14:47] <Maik> brb
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