[02:11] <mybalzitch> why does apt prompt me on login that "1 update can be immediately installed" when the package has been held back and can't be upgraded
[06:24] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:47] <DK2> is there a way to assign a subinterface without ip in netplan?
[13:10] <RoyK> DK2: assign to what?
[13:12] <RoyK> DK2: perhaps something here? https://netplan.io/examples/ - if's about vlans, that is
[13:26] <teward> DK2: define 'sub interface'
[13:26] <teward> if you mean alias interfaces under the main interface like ifupdown could do, then no.
[13:27] <teward> you could technically add a VLAN without an IP address, but it won't behave as a 'pure' interface.  You can also consider setting up local bridges on your system that don't have a member interface on it - then NAT that to the Internet over your normal interface if you want.  However, I think we need more explanation of what you are trying to achieve.
[13:28] <teward> because 'subinterface' could mean anything, so we would benefit by an explanation of what you mean or what you want to achieve
[14:28] <qman__> The term subinterface normally refers to the deprecated eth0:0 methid
[14:28] <qman__> method*
[14:29] <qman__> So if that's what you actually mean, the answer is no, those die with ifconfig
[14:30] <qman__> iproute2 just assigns as many IPs as you like to the interface
[14:56] <Walex2> The multiple address per interface, as opposed to the ":N" subinterfaces, has some limitations. Usually those can be worked around with "dummy" interfaces.