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[01:22] <callmepk> good morning
[03:49] <duflu> Hi callmepk 
[03:49] <callmepk> hi duflu 
[04:28] <luna> Hello desktoppers
[04:55] <duflu> Hi luna 
[05:37] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:04] <tjaalton> morning all, mutter died here, any way to kick it back up?
[06:07] <tjaalton> hmm it's working again but with upstream theme
[06:08] <tjaalton> oh well time to boot anyway after 68 days
[06:10] <ricotz> good morning
[06:25] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN, tjaalton, ricotz 
[06:26] <duflu> tjaalton, not sure what you mean. Mutter is just a library. Died how?
[06:29] <didrocks> good morning
[06:31] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz, duflu
[06:31] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[06:31] <tjaalton> duflu: right, it was the shell.. didn't restart and after I got it to run it was using the default config
[06:31] <tjaalton> the desktop just froze first
[06:32] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, tjaalton 
[06:39] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[06:40] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[06:41] <luna> oSoMoN: any status on the fx 88.0.1 deb build?
[06:59] <jibel> Good morning
[06:59] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[07:05] <duflu> Hi jibel 
[07:18] <jibel> Hi duflu 
[07:18] <jibel> salut ideopathic 
[07:18] <jibel> oops didrocks 
[07:47] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[07:50] <didrocks> salut seb128 
[07:52] <duflu> Hi seb128 
[07:53] <didrocks> seb128: I was able to promote libmarisa0 which, if I’m correct, has no package subscriber (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/marisa/+bug/1914808), do you mind having a look? I checked that your commits are in in u-a-t
[07:53] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1914808 in marisa (Ubuntu) "[MIR] marisa" [Undecided, Fix Released]
[07:54] <seb128> didrocks, salut! it's not promoted according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/marisa/+publishinghistory ?
[07:54] <seb128> didrocks, the check is on the source promotion
[07:55] <seb128> if you only promoted a binary it's still going to show on component mismatch for the src afaik, which covers us
[07:56] <didrocks> seb128: hum, but from what I got, we don’t have to promote the source anymore if we promote a binary package (whichh is weird, I agree)
[07:57] <didrocks> but then, you can promote some binary packages without having a package subscriber on the source?
[07:58] <seb128> didrocks, the 'source doesn't need to be promoted' is new to me and sounds weird
[07:58] <didrocks> we had some examples in the past, I don’t remember the details
[07:58] <seb128> if that's a new rule then we need to revisit the check
[07:59] <seb128> let's see, if the source shows up on component mismatch after the next refresh?
[07:59] <didrocks> happy that it’s a weird case, but just for safety, I think the script should ensure the "only promote binary" is taken into account to prevent that
[07:59] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, let’s see, meanwhile, mind adding desktop-package?
[07:59] <seb128> well, if the report flag it as an issue to fix I think we are covered
[07:59] <seb128> if it doesn't indeed we should handle that case
[08:00] <Laney> hey ho
[08:01] <seb128> didrocks, subscribed
[08:01] <seb128> Laney, hey, how are you?
[08:01] <Laney> I haven't heard of that rule btw
[08:01] <didrocks> seb128: thanks!
[08:01] <Laney> the other way round can happen indeed, and BDs can be in universe, but not binary in main source in universe
[08:01] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:01] <Laney> hey seb128 
[08:01] <Laney> hey didrocks 
[08:02] <Laney> doing good here, some sun but not the temperature to go along with it yet
[08:02] <Laney> you?
[08:02] <seb128> Laney, I didn't check yet but asking in case you have an idea offhand ... any guess on why the cdimage metrics didn't pick impish?
[08:02] <didrocks> some sore muscles, but good :)
[08:02] <seb128> didrocks, house work or exercice?
[08:02] <seb128> or lifting kids? :p
[08:03] <Laney> body building
[08:03] <Laney> seb128: not offhand, would have to check the code
[08:03] <seb128> Laney, k, I'm doing that
[08:05] <seb128> Laney, the collector correctly picks those for me, let me check the graphana
[08:05] <seb128> grafana
[08:05] <didrocks> seb128: none of that, I guess. Maybe stress or such…
[08:05] <seb128> didrocks, :-(
[08:10] <seb128> Laney, there is something I don't understand, the 'from' selector is listing impish in the edit screen but the combo at the top of the page isn't
[08:10] <Laney> did you try pressing save?
[08:11] <seb128> isn't supposed to just list the $release values
[08:11] <seb128> I didn't edit anything and the combo isn't listing impish, so not, let me try in case...
[08:11] <Laney> seems to be ther enow
[08:12] <seb128> it warns me that someone else edited the board
[08:12] <Laney> I just viewed the tag
[08:12] <Laney> weird
[08:12] <Laney> anyway whatever one of us did fixed it
[08:12] <seb128> and impish is there now
[08:12] <seb128> weird
[08:12] <Laney> so now you know for next time, go to the variable, press update, and then save
[08:12] <seb128> thx
[08:13] <seb128> the spikes on the age are weird also, unsure how to fix that
[08:15] <oSoMoN> good morning luna, jibel, seb128, Laney 
[08:15] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[08:16] <oSoMoN> bien, et toi?
[08:16] <oSoMoN> luna, I'm preparing the update now
[08:16] <jibel> Salut oSoMoN 
[08:17] <Laney> hey oSoMoN 
[08:18] <seb128> oSoMoN, ça va !
[08:18] <seb128> lut jibel 
[08:18] <Laney> seb128: I guess either not consider it n days old until n+1 entire days have passed, or change the graph axis to start at 1 😬
[08:18] <jibel> salut seb128 
[08:19] <seb128> Laney, I was trying to play with the query interval, if we query once a day and that's past the daily job we should filter those spike out
[08:20] <seb128> but if I change the interval I get weird spikes and value so I guess I don't understand what the interval is doing
[08:20] <seb128> like it gives me a triangle spike with a max value of 0.3
[08:22] <Laney> me neither, I don't know what you mean
[08:23] <Laney> another option is to ignore it and know that 1 day is not really 'late'
[08:27] <seb128> Laney, I mean https://people.canonical.com/~seb128/grafana.png
[08:27] <seb128> when changing the minial interval
[08:29] <Laney> it's probably the average value in the period or something like that
[08:30] <Laney> maybe add a 'threshold', just seen this exists, you can make it go green when < 1.0 :-)
[08:30] <seb128> Laney, I like your 'let's start the Y axis to 1'
[08:30] <seb128> ah
[08:30] <seb128> let me check the threshold thing
[08:33] <seb128> still somewhat weird to have the spikes
[08:33] <seb128> Laney, I'm going to go with the start-y-axis-at-1 if that's ok with you
[08:33] <Laney> sure
[08:36] <seb128> k, and done!
[08:41] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I created impish branches for firefox, and updated the lp:firefox and lp:firefox/beta links
[12:27] <luna> oSoMoN: updating now :)
[12:27] <luna> ah still building
[12:28] <oSoMoN> yeah, it takes a while to build in the LP build farm
[12:38] <luna> well using the nightly from the .tar.gz2 file atm to help beta test the Proton UI that starts rolling out 30th May - 1 June 
[12:38] <luna> so no hurry for me
[12:38] <luna> enabled in beta and nightly and will go stable in 3-4 weeks
[12:44] <oSoMoN> luna, if you're keen on testing ubuntu builds, the firefox-next PPA has beta builds with Proton
[12:45] <oSoMoN> and from my limited testing it looks slick
[14:08] <didrocks999> seb128: see, it disappeared from the chart: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg (I’ll still promote the source, but I really think the tool should prevent that)
[14:10] <seb128> it's still listed on https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.txt
[14:11] <seb128> well libmarisa-dev is, I wonder if once resolved it would list the source only?
[14:12] <seb128> where would be the right place to ask if promoting a binary without its source is valid?
[14:12] <seb128> imho the problem there is ^
[14:12] <seb128> not the team being subscribed or not
[14:14] <seb128> is that an archive team question or a mir team one? might be worth raise in the mir team meeting since that team has a catchup and we don't really have a venue for archive admins
[14:14] <didrocks999> I could ask in the mir team
[14:14] <didrocks999> but if so, we should fix the tool still to not allow promoting a binary without its source
[14:15] <didrocks999> interesting that the svg rendering reports something different than the txt one
[14:15] <didrocks999> libmarisa-dev should not be needed in main as we can build in universe, I wonder if that’s legacy stuff that will clean up once the source is in main, indeed
[14:28] <seb128> right, we should fix the tool either way
[14:29] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:35] <seb128> hey Heather, how are you?
[14:35] <oSoMoN> hello hellsworth 
[14:36] <hellsworth> oh hi there!
[14:36] <hellsworth> oh i'm alright. working at the new house for the first time all day while the plumber plumbs :)
[14:36] <hellsworth> seb128: oSoMoN how are you folks doing today?
[14:37] <seb128> doing alright today!
[14:37] <hellsworth> great! hopefully everyone in your house is feeling better :)
[14:38] <seb128> we were, we are back to one cold since monday, let's hope it stops there!
[14:38] <hellsworth> i'll cross my fingers for you :)
[14:38] <jibel> Good morning hellsworth 
[14:38] <hellsworth> hi there jibel :)
[14:39] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, I'm doing good thanks!
[14:39] <hellsworth> good :)
[14:39] <hellsworth> virtual hugs to you all..
[14:44] <PaulePanter> Hi. Using Ubuntu 20.10 on a Dell XPS 13 (vanille (non-Dell) installation), doing `sudo do-release-upgrade` says, that no newer release are available.
[14:45] <PaulePanter> Prompt=Normal in `/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades`.
[14:45] <PaulePanter> What am I missing?
[14:45] <hellsworth> I think you might need to add a -d in there for dev series
[14:47] <jibel> PaulePanter, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2021-April/041448.html 
[14:48] <hellsworth> dangit jibel you beat me to it
[14:48] <PaulePanter> jibel, hellsworth: Thank you.
[14:48] <hellsworth> np :)
[14:50] <jibel> yw
[15:22] <PaulePanter> wc
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