 There's something weird going on with libertine. Using the terminal on ut to install packages I am hitting on  … this dependency will not be installed  … When I have already manually installed it
 For example libqt-xml when trying installing okular
 And qtchooser when installing qdbus
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 I have a Pinephone with Ubuntu Touch that I occasionally use as my main phone. Calls and texts are usually okay. However, all the operating systems for this phone are still in development. So it’s not the most comfortable experience on occasions.
 @MyNameIsEarlB [So is anyone here using ubuntu touch on their pinephone as a daily driver? I'm g …], I have a Pinephone with Ubuntu Touch that I occasionally use as my main phone. Calls and texts are usually okay. However, all the operating systems for this phone are still in development. So it’s not the most comfortable experience on occ
[01:41] <ubptgbot> asions.
 Can the Nexus 4 use the LTE radio/chip thing on Ubuntu Touch?
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 I am having some weird boot problems in my Nokia 6.1 plus Ubuntu touch OS like it stucks on The logo after so many power on and off it boots up... Don't know the problem is..?
 Can somebody help
 @DTr0y [I am having some weird boot problems in my Nokia 6.1 plus Ubuntu touch OS like i …], Wow - I didn't even know the Nokia 6.1 had a port made for it - where did you get the image files - or are you porting this yourself?
 @TotalSonic [Wow - I didn't even know the Nokia 6.1 had a port made for it - where did you ge …], Here bro it's already available on the XDA website: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/gsi-arm64-ubuntu-touch-ubports-drg-b2n-pl2.4167587/
 @DTr0y [I am having some weird boot problems in my Nokia 6.1 plus Ubuntu touch OS like i …], But can do understand what has gone wrong here
 @DTr0y [But can do understand what has gone wrong here], can
 Ok - as it is based on tbe GSI image then it will likely have some issues. I would suggest flashing  to Lineage 16 and then reinstalling UT. Also best to contact the porter on XDA for help, as this is not a device that the core UBports team will be able to directly support yet.
 Ok will try that.. Thanks!
 @JIHP334 [Can the Nexus 4 use the LTE radio/chip thing on Ubuntu Touch?], it doesn't do LTE on Android even
 @dohbee [it doesn't do LTE on Android even], I remember that phone having an LTE chip/radio that you enabled through the hidden *#*#4636#*#* menu and flashable zips.
 @JIHP334 [I remember that phone having an LTE chip/radio that you enabled through the hidd …], it was not certified for LTE. the original radio firmware had it enabled, but radio updates disabled LTE. if you flash latest OEM android on the device, LTE will not work. And even with LTE, I don't think it supported VoLTE, so it would still get
[04:19] <ubptgbot>  dropped off networks that require VoLTE
 @dohbee [it was not certified for LTE. the original radio firmware had it enabled, but ra …], Well that sucks. Well just wanted to know. Thanks.
 @NotKit [could you check ls -la /dev/socket/micshm], I get: prw-rw---- 1 1013 Android_media 0 May 5 20:19 /dev/socket/micshm
 UB for Lavender? Anybody can guide me?
 Does this help? github.com/mrdrhax/xiaomi-redmi-note-7-installation-manual
 Hello everybody! I would like to ask and UT by default what programming languages ​​does it support by default? And then I want to write a script ... I tried to do it in Bash, but I got confused in the conditions and I can not catch the error (and I can’t find the source, but there is no one to ask for help in catching), I’m lo
[07:26] <ubptgbot> oking in what language else to try write a script
 (Photo, 2560x1440) https://irc.ubports.com/KSZgLGrj.png Today I am productive at work  … :-D
 productive indeed :)
 Ha ha you have right :)
 @dariomtk [<reply to media>], Nice ^^
 @dariomtk [<reply to media>], 👌👍
 hey... Actually I wanted to know
 how people
 upgrade kernel
 like... If I have 3.9.x kernel in my android
 and I have source code of it
 how can I upgrade it?
 That sounds like a good question for an Android group or forum.
 Hello! Is this "Ubuntu Touch" chat?
 @klaartje_b [That sounds like a good question for an Android group or forum.], actually I even asked in different groups... but they are not replying
 @. [Hello! Is this "Ubuntu Touch" chat?], Hello, yes it is!
 @klaartje_b [Hello, yes it is!], Can I install it on my phone instead of android?
 @. [Can I install it on my phone instead of android?], If it's supported
 If not you have to port it yourself
 @. [Can I install it on my phone instead of android?], That depends on what device you have: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 @klaartje_b [That depends on what device you have: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io], can you give me good android forum group on telegram? please
 @Flohack [Nice ^^], It was not easy to find a slim port, a weird bluetooth keyboard.. But a great example of the universality of UT.
 @Hyaakimaru [can you give me good android forum group on telegram? please], No, I can only do a search, and you can do that just as easily yourself. You have the same resources available as I do.
 yeah but
 I can't find any group like that
 even XDA
 don't have official
 group
 That is not a problem I can solve for you.
 yeah right
 @sajidbhat [UB for Lavender? Anybody can guide me?], https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/lavender/
 @Hyaakimaru [I can't find any group like that], moto g4 group is quite active and can help you. Then, … elementalx.org, XDA
 @dariomtk [moto g4 group is quite active and can help you. Then, … elementalx.org, XDA], thanks dude
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 @luksus42 [https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/lavender/], What to do?
 Can anyone please guide me
 🙏
 Scroll down and follow the How to install section.
 @luksus42 [Scroll down and follow the How to install section.], Okay
 There is an installer available.
 @luksus42 [There is an installer available.], Yes exe format
 After installing on my PC what to do?
 What is helium?
 *halium
 @sajidbhat [After installing on my PC what to do?], Start it and follow the instructions in the program.
 Ok
 Halium is the collaborative project to unify the Hardware Abstraction Layer for projects which run GNU/Linux on mobile devices with pre-installed Android.  … https://halium.org/
 I am currently on custom ROM which is android 1
 *11
 Then I believe it may be better to first go back to Android 9.
 (And if you rightclick or longpress on a Telegram message you'll get the option to edit.)
 @klaartje_b [Then I believe it may be better to first go back to Android 9.], So I will have to first install android 9 ROM (lineage os of course) then use the port?
 @klaartje_b [Then I believe it may be better to first go back to Android 9.], Thats true.
 @sajidbhat [So I will have to first install android 9 ROM (lineage os of course) then use th …], Yes
 @klaartje_b [(And if you rightclick or longpress on a Telegram message you'll get the option …], Thanks I am new at it
 @sajidbhat [So I will have to first install android 9 ROM (lineage os of course) then use th …], That should work, yes.
 Okay
 Thanks Sir
 I presume the installer should tell you which one to install, no?
 I'm not a sir, but you're welcome. 😀
 @klaartje_b [I'm not a sir, but you're welcome. 😀], More knowledgeable than me is same as sir
 ☺️
 @luksus42 [I presume the installer should tell you which one to install, no?], for lavender, it will tell you to download vendor, but won't downgrade bootloader/etc automatically
 but LineageOS 16 install won't either
 Will my recovery be affected?
 Or anything else?
 yes, it will be replaced by UT recovery
 Or I can just simply install after flashing android 9 ROM
 If you have important data, make sure to make a backup.
 @NotKit [yes, it will be replaced by UT recovery], Okay! But I can use it for flashing Roms?
 only for UT, you'd need to reflash TWRP back if you need to flash Android
 Okay
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 it's not possible to forward emails in HTML format on dekko, right?
 Fuh ... I've never been as happy as I am now .... I've been trying to write a script all day, it broke and crashed but I did it https://github.com/seiwer-tail/anbox-ut-unnoficial-installer now there is an unofficial Anbox installer for devices that are not supported by the official installer but have a patch to make it work
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Fuh ... I've never been as happy as I am now .... I've been trying to write a sc …], Yay
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Fuh ... I've never been as happy as I am now .... I've been trying to write a sc …], OTA-17 includes a change which gets rid of the hardcoded list of devices. As long as your kernel has the support built correctly, `anbox-tool install` will work on any device on OTA-17 (or currently with `rc` or `devel` channel images)
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 @dohbee [OTA-17 includes a change which gets rid of the hardcoded list of devices. As lon …], Well, because for now, I will probably have to wait for OTA-17 for a long time, I think this script will come in handy (and I did it because this is the simplest thing that I could afford ... after all, I really don't know how to write
[13:35] <ubptgbot>  code, but I need to learn from something ) By the way, I have a question ... And OTA-17, as I understand it, is the most global update of all time, I would like to ask what will at least be changed approximately?
 @dohbee [OTA-17 includes a change which gets rid of the hardcoded list of devices. As lon …], [Edit] Well, because for now, I will probably have to wait for OTA-17 for a long time, I think this script will come in handy (and I did it because this is the simplest thing that I could afford ... after all, I really don't know how t
[13:35] <ubptgbot> o write code, but I need to learn from something )  … By the way, I have a question ... And OTA-17, as I understand it, is the most global update of all time, I would like to ask what will at least be changed approximately?
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Well, because for now, I will probably have to wait for OTA-17 for a long time, …], OTA-17 release will be next wednesday, pending no blockers found in this final week of testing
 OTA-17 is not a particularly major update, no.
 (also it's available in RC channel for those who don't want to wait)
 @dohbee [OTA-17 release will be next wednesday, pending no blockers found in this final w …], Seriously?! Wow.... And you can ask please changelog, what's new there that is? (otherwise I'm too lazy to recompile the system for the phone, so I would like to ask if this is a minor update)
 @im_not_dead_seiwer onclite or something else?
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Seriously?! Wow.... And you can ask please changelog, what's new there that is? …], recompile for your phone?!
 are you using GSI or something?
 @ttaepi [(also it's available in RC channel for those who don't want to wait)], But only devices with official support can get there, unfortunately
 @ttaepi [@im_not_dead_seiwer onclite or something else?], Onclite
 @dohbee [are you using GSI or something?], The github repository contains the source code of the native port, but no one compiles, so you have to do it yourself when new OTA updates are released
 I made PR to add onclite to installer: https://github.com/ubports/installer-configs/pull/95
[13:40] <gitbot> ubports issue (Pull request) 95 in installer-configs "onclite: add Xiaomi Redmi 7" [Open]
 @NotKit [I made PR to add onclite to installer: https://github.com/ubports/installer-conf …], I will pray to all the gods to add it, after all, with the installer it is more convenient than buying a VPS for compilation
 what kind of "compilation" is there that requires VPS?
 I installed anbox and have an issue with the sound/video from android apps which isn't playing. I remember having this same issue at some point with a previous installation of anbox on my linux pc (some codecs? missing). Is this someone else has come accross and perhaps solved?
 is the anbox version installed on ubuntu touch an old one?
 @NotKit [what kind of "compilation" is there that requires VPS?], My computer cannot compile, so I need to buy a VPS with every update
 Wow, you are certainly jumping through some impressive hoops there!
 @christos [I installed anbox and have an issue with the sound/video from android apps which …], You are not the first, I am also wondering what the problem might be, I suspect that for different phones, there must be different codecs
 yeah, I'm looking now on the issues and found this https://github.com/ubports/anbox/issues/41
[14:02] <gitbot> ubports issue 41 in anbox "No audio on Xperia X" [Open]
 it's a shame that the ubports is quite behind anbox, on anbox-git I'm using every app I want is working perfectly
 @christos [yeah, I'm looking now on the issues and found this https://github.com/ubports/an …], This option did not help me, although the codecs changed immediately and there are more of them
 @Jaymz665 [This option did not help me, although the codecs changed immediately and there a …], ah, that's disheartening. I'll try nevertheless...I'm also experiencing some weird icon issues....hm
 I've got one app that anbox does not want to show me its icon..don't know how to launch it otherwise
 @christos [ah, that's disheartening. I'll try nevertheless...I'm also experiencing some wei …], Of course it's worth a try
 @christos [it's a shame that the ubports is quite behind anbox, on anbox-git I'm using ever …], Feel free to contribute to this campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/anbox-on-ut?utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet
 well I hope they make it...though I'm seeing in next steps about porting to halium9 devices I don't really know how that goes with ubuntu touch being on halium 7? I wish them the best but I am a jobless student so contributing is a bit difficult
 Anyway running android apps is not the primary purpose of Ubuntu Touch and anbox on PC or smartphones is not the same challenge.
 @christos [well I hope they make it...though I'm seeing in next steps about porting to hali …], well not all devices are on halium 7. newer devices may be on 9 or 10 (and i guess there will be some work on 11 soon too)
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Fuh ... I've never been as happy as I am now .... I've been trying to write a sc …], but the official installer works on all devices with a supported kernel......
 Nope
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Seriously?! Wow.... And you can ask please changelog, what's new there that is? …], the release announcement will contain a changelog as usual i guess
 @Fuseteam [the release announcement will contain a changelog as usual i guess], I hope they will change a lot of things there (and not just icons like in ota-15)
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 helo
 [Edit] hello
 @christos [I installed anbox and have an issue with the sound/video from android apps which …], yeah it is likely the same issue, i suppose the codecs need to be added to the image
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [I hope they will change a lot of things there (and not just icons like in ota-15 …], My device gains camera flash + zoom in OTA7, plus better autofocus. Good stuff.
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [I hope they will change a lot of things there (and not just icons like in ota-15 …], ota 15 didn't only change icons o.o
 @Fuseteam [ota 15 didn't only change icons o.o], Well, all the same, ota 15 was a minor update that was more like ota14.1
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [I hope they will change a lot of things there (and not just icons like in ota-15 …], [Edit] My device gains camera flash + zoom in OTA17, plus better autofocus. Good stuff.
 uh no?  https://www.ubports.com/blog/ubports-news-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-15-release-3736
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Well, because for now, I will probably have to wait for OTA-17 for a long time, …], this is a good mindset btw, and a little secret, writing a bash script like that can be considered "coding" ;) everyone starts somewhere ;3
 guys
 anyway, generally new stable releases should be a small set of changes, so we can keep momentum and release things fast and on schedule
 is there anything else out of the installer to do on lavender?
 @dohbee [anyway, generally new stable releases should be a small set of changes, so we ca …], By the way, the question is, and in the next update it is planned to switch to a new version of ubuntu, or in the next update you will have to sit ...
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [By the way, the question is, and in the next update it is planned to switch to a …], no, the migration to 20.04 is not done yet. it will be some months still until it is ready
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [By the way, the question is, and in the next update it is planned to switch to a …], no there is a lot of work to be done before we get to ubuntu 20.04
 but we are working on it, alongside getting fixes into the current builds
 there are a lot of other fixes tho like wider anbox support and such
 yes, and update to mir 1.8
 @Fuseteam [no there is a lot of work to be done before we get to ubuntu 20.04], So you guys planning on jumping from 16 to 20? Or will 18 also come sometime in between?
 no, straight to 20.04
 an 18.04 base doesn't make sense really
 guys how do i navigate
 no back ?
 @MuhammedSabbagh [guys how do i navigate], no back, you have edge swipes for the launcher and drawer on the left, last app and app switcher on the right, indicators and settings on the top and app specific action on the bottom
 ah
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 @christos [it's a shame that the ubports is quite behind anbox, on anbox-git I'm using ever …], There is an effort in progress with some developers outside of the UBports core team getting paid to fix Anbox on UT - you can contribute to it here - https://www.gofundme.com/f/anbox-on-ut
 heck the jingos people advertised in https://t.me/UBports_Chinese chinese aswell :V
 not unexpected lol, considering they are Chinese
 well yeah but 3 times? lol
 was about to redirect someone from the welcomeroom to their but the first thing they would see is jingos lol
 Chinese group is largely offtopic
 haven't seen real UT users there mostly
 yeah am now considering pinging a random ut user from there in the welcome room
 long story short there's a chinese user with proxy issues
 now i'm not sure if its a proxy issue or just the installer being the previous release now i think about it
 @dohbee [an 18.04 base doesn't make sense really], Why so?
 (Photo, 2340x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/UqlizRDM.png
 @Sparky3K [Why so?], because it will be EOL in 2 years and it's just as much work as building on 20.04
 @MuhammedSabbagh [<reply to media>], indeed, apt is not supported for installing packages on UT. the rootfs is readonly
 @dohbee [because it will be EOL in 2 years and it's just as much work as building on 20.0 …], I see. Thanks for the update!😇
 @dohbee [indeed, apt is not supported for installing packages on UT. the rootfs is readon …], No other way rather than rebuilding the rootfs ?
 ah so no chance?
 @danascape [No other way rather than rebuilding the rootfs ?], other way for what? you shouldn't be rebuilding the rootfs on your own
 @dohbee [other way for what? you shouldn't be rebuilding the rootfs on your own], install packages
 @MuhammedSabbagh [ah so no chance?], what are you trying to achieve exactly?
 only apt update
 probably installing firefox
 @danascape [install packages], apps are provided as click packages from open store. if you want legacy apps, there is libertine for creating a container
 @MuhammedSabbagh [probably installing firefox], you can use libertine for such legacy apps
 ah
 ok
 thank u
 UT is not a traditional linux distro. it is designed and built for the phone/tablet use case
 @dohbee [apps are provided as click packages from open store. if you want legacy apps, th …], hmm, I see I see
 @danascape [No other way rather than rebuilding the rootfs ?], There are some Terminal commands that allow you to temporarily make the rootfs as read/write - but you can break the system if not careful with this - and any changes made will get overwritten in any system updates.
 i see
 I would avoid doing that
 I just booted UT for fun and to experience new UI
 Anyone here ran python or mysql on ut?
[17:25] <ubptgbot> Марат was added by: Марат
 there are apps in the app store using python
 UT is not a traditional linux distro. if you are wanting to use it to convert some old device into an odd server, it's probably not the best option for you
 I mean for studying, i have mysql in one of my subjects, i was thinking of using it with python on libertine
 should maybe be possible. just don't install or try to use sudo inside libertine, as it's an unprivileged container
 someone here uses his tablet for web development studies
 I test my websites on my m10
 @dohbee [should maybe be possible. just don't install or try to use sudo inside libertine …], Ok, i will remember that, thx🙃
 @amyosx [I test my websites on my m10], 👌
 @Javacookies [someone here uses his tablet for web development studies], I see....
 try on libertine first, it's not perfect but it can be useful sometimes
 i prefer getting a Surface Pro 3 and flashing the QEMU UT image in the SSD
 Use proper ubuntu
 And surface are pain with linux
 You need a patched kernel
 And its still buggy
 The Pro 3 is almost entirely supported by Linux, but Ubuntu Touch has a too-old kernel and doesn't have EFI boot yet.
 (trust me, I've tried)
 (Photo, 576x231) https://irc.ubports.com/06ym0UJb.png what is this?
 @UniversalSuperBox [(trust me, I've tried)], Do it pro
 I believe in you
 Needs Ubuntu 20.04 so we can have the newer signed kernel without creating a frankenUbuntu
 I could do it without Secure Boot by just slapping a newer kernel on, but I don't feel like that's "done".
 @InSanicTH [i prefer getting a Surface Pro 3 and flashing the QEMU UT image in the SSD], Ubuntu Budgie 21.04, with Onboard OSK and Touchegg 2.x multi-touch gesture enabler set to autostart works very well with x86 Intel based tablets and 2in1's - and will give you more capabilities and much wider app selection than UT will currently as
[17:39] <ubptgbot>  well.
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 @UniversalSuperBox [The Pro 3 is almost entirely supported by Linux, but Ubuntu Touch has a too-old …], but ut has has many kernels :p
 @UniversalSuperBox [I could do it without Secure Boot by just slapping a newer kernel on, but I don' …], Coding with a sence of decency... I like it. 👌
 @Fuseteam [but ut has has many kernels :p], Sorry, I'll rephrase. Ubuntu 16.04 has a too-old kernel to work well on the Surface Pro 3.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Needs Ubuntu 20.04 so we can have the newer signed kernel without creating a fra …], Ubuntu frankenstein how fun
 @UniversalSuperBox [Sorry, I'll rephrase. Ubuntu 16.04 has a too-old kernel to work well on the Surf …], ah now i get it xD
 @UniversalSuperBox [Needs Ubuntu 20.04 so we can have the newer signed kernel without creating a fra …], [Edit] Ubuntu Frankenstein how fun xD
 We can't build our own kernel and boot on most compliant EFI devices nowadays. We need to take Ubuntu's EFI shim, grub, and kernel.
 And all from the same release since their signing keys change between releases.
 (again, I've tried to do things wrong to make them work, and it doesn't work)
 oh that's interesting to know
 We could use whatever kernel we want and tell people to turn off Secure Boot, but that is a bad experience.
 And since the work to make focal happen is, well, happening, I feel like it's a bad idea to ship more images on 16.04. Especially bad when we know it'll be problematic.
 @UniversalSuperBox [And since the work to make focal happen is, well, happening, I feel like it's a …], I am guessing the upgrade to 20.04 make barriers around x86 desktop support easier to get around though?
 @UniversalSuperBox [And since the work to make focal happen is, well, happening, I feel like it's a …], [Edit] I am guessing the upgrade to 20.04 will make barriers around x86 desktop support easier to get around though?
 Have y'all started to tackle systemd yet?
 @UniversalSuperBox [We could use whatever kernel we want and tell people to turn off Secure Boot, bu …], agreed, we have a similar issue with anbox due to the ashmem module being signed incorrectly iiuc
 @Fuseteam [agreed, we have a similar issue with anbox due to the ashmem module being signed …], I don't think you could ever get it signed. You need to either use Ubuntu's secure boot enrollment mechanism or find another way to get ashmem.
 Or get it accepted into upstream and shipped in Ubuntu...
 @UniversalSuperBox [I don't think you could ever get it signed. You need to either use Ubuntu's secu …], i mean there appears to be case the one shipped is unsigned or incorrectly signed for some reason
 it is shipped in ubuntu 20.04 iiuc
 Do you have to use the third-party option in the installer maybe?
 hmm now i think about it i don't think that issue exists on 20.04
 at least i didn't encounter it on 20.04
 @amyosx [Use proper ubuntu], Im doing it for fun only, i use a windows laptop for it primarily
 i see some weird things in the anbox chat some times
 @TotalSonic [I am guessing the upgrade to 20.04 will make barriers around x86 desktop support …], Er, not really. It's just as possible now, but with less hardware support.
 @Fuseteam [i see some weird things in the anbox chat some times], Does anbox have device specific compatibility?
 @Sparky3K [Does anbox have device specific compatibility?], on what? mobile? in that case no-ish, it depends on your kernel
 Yeah mobile only
 Stock kernel, unless ut setup changes it....
 @UniversalSuperBox [Er, not really. It's just as possible now, but with less hardware support.], I'm not excited about creating an installer or trying to satisfy dual-boot users in any case
 So I don't think I will.
[18:03] <ubptgbot> <Laber Aviles-Colon> (Photo, 824x1088) https://irc.ubports.com/8vsToiVh.png
 @UniversalSuperBox [Do you have to use the third-party option in the installer maybe?], for the anbox modules? nope, they are from upstream linux kernel. debian/ubuntu only has a patch to enable building as modules, and they are built by default. though there is a weird issue where one won't load when secure boot is enabled, despite them b
[18:04] <ubptgbot> eing signed
 @dohbee [for the anbox modules? nope, they are from upstream linux kernel. debian/ubuntu …], Tricky lockdown mode.
 The irony that it took Apple making their own CPU to make a system architecture that gives the device owner control of their device.
 "control"
 @UniversalSuperBox [I'm not excited about creating an installer or trying to satisfy dual-boot users …], just nuke it all muahahahaha
 @UniversalSuperBox [The irony that it took Apple making their own CPU to make a system architecture …], Apple's software dosent give much control or does it? Idk im alien to any apple device besides ipod
 @dohbee [for the anbox modules? nope, they are from upstream linux kernel. debian/ubuntu …], mostly ashmem afaict
 what is the issue to disable secure boot on UEFI devices?
 I thought it's first thing to do on a new device
 @NotKit [what is the issue to disable secure boot on UEFI devices?], On the Surface it turns the entire boot screen bright red
 @NotKit [what is the issue to disable secure boot on UEFI devices?], bad user experience
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/h4gZeB0t.png
 on newer surfaces it looks like this
 well, we have more troublesome things like being unable to use apt than that
 "disable secureboot" … "but why, do i run a risk" … "no, you'll be fine" … "but i get a bright red screen now" … "uhhhhh ignore it"
 [Edit] "disable secureboot" … "but why, do i run a risk?" … "no, you'll be fine" … "but i get a bright red screen now" … "uhhhhh ignore it"
 @Fuseteam ["disable secureboot" … "but why, do i run a risk?" … "no, you'll be fine" … "but i get …], that's what we do on Android devices for a while :)
 i know 😂
 @Sparky3K [Apple's software dosent give much control or does it? Idk im alien to any apple …], The M1 in the Mac is looking actually quite friendly to custom software. They're still being as bad as NVidia about documentation, but at some point they decided "yes this should load alternate kernels easily"
 Can we apply  oem lock after installing ut or will it break?
 @UniversalSuperBox [The M1 in the Mac is looking actually quite friendly to custom software. They're …], Sounds they r on a good path
 @NotKit [well, we have more troublesome things like being unable to use apt than that], eh, apt is starting to feel overrated. especially if we can get snap and flatpak working someday™
 [Edit] Can we apply  oem lock after installing ut or will it break the os?
 @Fuseteam [eh, apt is starting to feel overrated. especially if we can get snap and flatpak …], I believe you will
 @Sparky3K [I believe you will], me? i'm not nearly knowledgable enough about either to able to do that in the short term
 does UT have optimization? … i feel like the phone is slowly improving
 but i know someone who got flatpak somewhat working hehehehe
 [Edit] but i do know someone who got flatpak somewhat working hehehehe
 That was in reference to all the devs as a collective unit
 [Edit] but i do know someone got flatpak somewhat working hehehehe
 @MuhammedSabbagh [does UT have optimization? … i feel like the phone is slowly improving], Me too
 @Sparky3K [That was in reference to all the devs as a collective unit], eh? then you didn't have to ping me perse 😂
 😅i guess yeah
 @NotKit [that's what we do on Android devices for a while :)], I generally try to do the hard but correct thing until it is clear that it is impossible.
 hi guys is there any way to my contacts from phone record to sim or maybe something l KDE connect need to transfer from my nexus 5  to MI a2  )
 maybe you can copy databases from Nexus 5?
 export to vcf is the easiest iirc
 КАКАРОТ what about your display issue?
 im on version ubtouch-jasmine-20201024  that support JDI cant  do update   any new version is not working = if worked before most work in futere )but on this i can install apps and call send sms use telgram .... not much but maube same like on nexus 5 ,cam work for photo not working video but is ok i forget recording video on nexus 5 in t
[18:48] <ubptgbot> ime wan cam whas buuged and cannot play what i recorded on phone and one more thing this ubtouch-jasmine-20201024 have old  problem hahah 1970 date + cannot trasnfer data to pc Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB Unknown
 I think I have an idea of commit that broke it
 no idea how is that possible though
 possible driver for panel
 blinking on normal version
 https://gitlab.com/ubports/core/hybris-support/mir-android-platform/-/commit/72790091a69c8b915e1de06701ac0cbebf888cfb
 but also https://gitlab.com/ubports/core/hybris-support/mir-android-platform/-/commit/a43df3b164f066dcac1b1e9cdfd40ad9da3fb77e around that date
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/NWXilsHm.webp
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/gpIAakEK.png
 is that lavender installed by UT Installer?
 I think USSD was fixed for Android 9 at some point
 yes
 it happens only with this one
 sometimes it does register as ussd and and sometimes it doesn'twork
 also is the phone hw accelerated?
 yes
 we can't render UI without GL drivers
 ah then why it feels heavy
 scrolling is painful A bit
 well, browser is currently not
 if you mean that
 i guess its the tg client then
 teleport (app)
[19:32] <ubptgbot> Dale Anon was added by: Dale Anon
[19:37] <ubptgbot> <Dale Anon> Hi, what's the best way to be notified of new releases? Preferably by email. I'm waiting for compatiblity with Galaxy S7.Thanks.
 i guess subscribe to the RSS feed for the UBports blog, as new devices with stable images get included along with the stable release announcements
[19:43] <ubptgbot> <Dale Anon> Thanks. I have 0.8.8 installed. Am I right in saying it won't check for updates?
 i think the installer does check for updates to the installer. and if you installed from snap store, it will automatically update i guess
[19:49] <ubptgbot> <Dale Anon> Thanks man. I donated to to project. Keep up the good work.
 when im trying to make libertine container it get automatically removed
 like it didn't happen
 may need to do that from command line
 [Edit] may need to do that from command line (as in https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html)
 @MuhammedSabbagh [when im trying to make libertine container it get automatically removed], I've found that disabling auto-timeout/locking behavior temporarily helps
 i can't understand the os
 5 mins ago it was struggling to exist
 now its smoother than android
 ok i went too far many bugs are still present
 but yeah major difference than the first hour use
 and the battery is supreme
[22:03] <ubptgbot> Emerson Cristal was added by: Emerson Cristal
 (Photo, 2340x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/CHZnaBPs.png
 I have this windowing mode unabling on boot on Unihertz Titan with square screen
 looks strange there
 [Edit] I have this windowing mode enabling on boot on Unihertz Titan with square screen
 the round screen along with u drop is terrible
 but looks cool anyway
 full terminal would be cooler but eh ik it's risky