[00:00] <Aaron> Spam
[00:00] <Aaron> !ops guagua_ spam
[00:00] <Aaron> !tell ops guagua_ about spamming
[00:02] <floogy> Is latest mysql-server for bionic 18.04.4 version 5.7.33?
[00:02] <floogy> because it got 18.04.1 in it's name: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=bionic&section=all&arch=any&keywords=mysql&searchon=names
[00:02] <dontlook> so I have 2 admins on a system, and one regular user.   When I login as the regular user and try to add a new wifi network - it asks for the password for the 1st user created(an admin) but there is no way to select the other admin for the authorization action
[00:02] <dontlook> any idea how to make the 2nd admin an option?
[00:04] <Bashing-om> !info mysql-server bionic | floogy
[00:04] <floogy> I need to know the version number for mysql_upgrade_info
[00:06] <floogy> so I can use  5.7.33 as version. I hope, if I create ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql_upgrade_info
[00:06] <floogy> with 5.7.33 version string, that mysql-8.0 will update and read the data directory of akonadi, which stopped working after the upgrade from bionic 18.04.4 to focal 20.04.1
[00:07] <floogy> Bashing-om, thank you!
[00:08] <Bashing-om> floogy: :D Small thing .
[00:10] <floogy> Unfortunately that didn't help. [ERROR] [MY-010020] [Server] Data Dictionary initialization failed.
[00:11] <floogy> Where can I find the configuration for org.kde.pim.akonadiserver: arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/gerhard/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", "--datadir=/home/gerhard/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", "--socket=/run/user/1000/akonadi/mysql.socket", "--pid-file=/run/user/1000/akonadi/mysql.pid")
[00:12] <floogy> I need to put --upgrade=FORCE
[00:14] <floogy> Options="UNIX_SOCKET=/run/user/1000/akonadi/mysql.socket"
[00:14] <floogy> <- in ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc
[00:14] <floogy> Can I add that line separating with a comma?
[00:20] <floogy> Okay, that didn't work either
[00:22] <leftyfb> floogy: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[00:52] <floogy> leftyfb, /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi aborts with [ERROR] [MY-010020] [Server] Data Dictionary initialization failed.
[00:53] <floogy> I think it's due to the failed upgrade process for that 5.7.33 data directory, though I'm not sure.
[00:53] <leftyfb> floogy: what is mysqld-akonadi?
[00:53] <floogy> It's running mysql-8.0
[00:54] <floogy> a symlink to mysqld
[00:54] <leftyfb> floogy: is this mysql-server?
[00:54] <leftyfb> floogy: apt-cache policy mysql-server |nc termbin.com 9999
[00:55] <floogy> akonadi starts the server as a separate process to the systemwide mysql-8.0 within a different data directory
[00:55] <floogy> yes it is.
[00:56] <floogy> https://termbin.com/j6gq
[00:57] <floogy> akonadi-backend-mysql: /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi
[00:57] <leftyfb> floogy: sorry, I'm not familiar with mysqld-akonadi or why you need it
[00:57] <floogy> I need it for kmail and kontact etc.
[00:58] <floogy> I already tried ubuntuusers.de and kde.de or #kubuntu etc.
[00:59] <floogy> I guess I have to setup a docker mysql 5.7 to get a mysqldump out of that data-directory, to import it later. I don't know.
[00:59] <floogy> The migration didn't succeed from bionic to focal.
[01:00] <floogy> unfortunately I didn't create a mysqldump beforehand.
[01:00] <floogy> The other databases migrated well.
[01:01] <floogy> Okay, thank you. It's time for me to get some sleep. bye!
[01:56] <jpmh_> I have a .img file that I copy to SD cards for Pis.  Is there some way that I can mount that image as a file system?
[01:59] <Bashing-om> jpmh_: Does this give you any ideas ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot .
[02:03] <jpmh_> Bashing-om:YES - TY - what I was missing was the -o loop - installed - TY
[02:08] <Bashing-om> jpmh_: Glad to know works for PIs also :D
[02:12] <jpmh_> Bashing-om:not really a Pi issue - just the image happens, in this case to be for a Pi
[02:41] <Dr-007> hello, right now im using ffmpeg to record video from a cheap hdmi capture device i bought. this isnt really working out for me.. im running into errors. are there any other packages to record a video device?
[04:32] <auxin> I am struggling to make wlan1 connect to a ssid, while wlan0 and wlan2 work ok
[04:32] <auxin> can someone suggest a nmcli approach to making wlan1 connect?
[04:50] <DumbLDoor> Hi All! What's the old EFI issue with 21.04? How do I know I can upgrade existing installation (not clean install) without any problems?
[04:50] <DumbLDoor> I don't have UEFI on my system.
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> DumbLDoor: Bug #1925010
[04:57] <DumbLDoor> ty @ lotuspsychje and ubottu
[04:59] <DumbLDoor> I have an old, 2011 self-assembled desktop with gigabyte Z-68 motherboard. Should I wait for the bug to be fixed and then upgrade my machine?
[04:59] <DumbLDoor> How do I know I have an EFI 1.10 system?
[05:01] <DumbLDoor> sudo efibootmgr -> EFI variables are not supported on this system
[05:08] <DumbLDoor> guess I will check out gigabyte firmware updates first
[05:10] <auxin> I have two of the same wireless devices but one isnt working correcltly it seems
[05:19] <Heston> hello, I'm running an ubuntu 21.04 live usb and everytime I turn off my monitor, or if it goes to sleep, I can't bring back my display. The monitor says there's no signal...how does this make any sense?
[05:20] <Heston> I could understand something messing up with Xorg when the display goes to sleep but if I power cycle my monitor I instantly lose a video signal
[05:25] <DumbLDoor> Heston - it happens to me too, sometimes. I have a viewsonic lcd
[05:26] <Heston> DumbLDoor, are you using displayport by chance?
[05:26] <DumbLDoor> i don't know. i use the hdmi on my external amd radeon graphics card
[05:27] <DumbLDoor> not displayport
[05:28] <Heston> hmm ok and I'm using nvidia. So I don't think it's our hardware
[05:32] <DumbLDoor> Heston: Do you have multiple Displayport ports on your monitor? If yes, try the other one. The other HDMI port works for me
[05:32] <DumbLDoor> at times
[05:33] <Heston> just one display port on the monitor, multiple dvi and one of everything else
[05:34] <Heston> unfortunately I only have a displayport cable
[05:34] <Heston> i wonder if dvi would have this problem
[05:35] <Heston> I truly don't understand how power cycling the monitor stops the video card from sending a signal
[05:35] <DumbLDoor> do you have two ports on your video card?
[05:35] <DumbLDoor> there must be redundant ports somewhere
[05:35] <Heston> yeah, that didn't work though
[05:35] <DumbLDoor> oh ok
[05:36] <DumbLDoor> lose connection / restart monitor - I presume you have checked all these.
[05:36] <Heston> yep
[05:36] <Heston> also since rebooting without touching anything brings back the display
[05:37] <DumbLDoor> does hibernate/suspend and restart help?
[05:38] <DumbLDoor> or is only rebooting?
[05:38] <Heston> haven't tried those. it's a desktop so I dont have a hibernate or suspend button
[05:40] <DumbLDoor> system menu gives you those options
[05:40] <Heston> i mean, how am I going to do that without a picture
[05:41] <DumbLDoor> oh, i forgot your monitor is off :( sorry
[05:42] <Heston> all good
[05:42] <DumbLDoor> maybe some interrupt may help.. no clue
[05:42] <Heston> tried switching virtual consoles which works on my laptop when I had that issue
[05:42] <Heston> but no luck this time
[05:43] <DumbLDoor> I found this, if it helps -  https://askubuntu.com/questions/899624/ubuntu-loads-and-then-monitor-loses-signal
[05:46] <Heston> it's possible the signal switched over to the dvi port since that's the first connector
[05:46] <Heston> can't test that unfortunately
[05:46] <Heston> and there's only one video card
[05:47] <DumbLDoor> cya!! got to leave now... gn
[06:34] <kristian_on_linu> cheers
[06:39] <Heston> fwiw if I let the video card timeout to put the display to sleep and then wake it up with the monitor on it brings back the picture
[06:41] <kristian_on_linu> I have this string in a script: lftp -e "set sftp:auto-confirm yes" -u ${username},${password} -e "mirror -R -p -P=10 -e --ignore-time -v ${local_directory}/ ${remote_directory};quit" sftp://${hostname}
[06:42] <kristian_on_linu> of course, username and such is elsewhere in the script
[06:42] <kristian_on_linu> but the script stalls on mkdir `/vhosts/example.com/htdocs/' [Connecting...]
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: perhaps a question more for ##linux ?
[06:43] <kristian_on_linu> hi lotuspsychje, maybe
[07:04] <nabblet> Hi, a friend of mine is seeing issues with CUDA (Nvidia) on ubuntu 21.04. Quotes: when I try to run tensorflow it says internal server error // it is linked to gcc
[07:06] <nabblet> He says that there are several others reporting issues with CUDA on 21.04. Is that a known issue or did he just make a mistake somewhere?
[07:07] <nabblet> *linked to gcc 10
[12:22] <lqi> have install u18.04 in a vm, "apt update" failed, looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1785778 kind of issue about "Hash Sum mismatch Ubuntu Server 18.04.1 LTS"
[12:22] <lqi> and tried https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1785778/comments/11 way, and a few other in google results, nothing helped me
[12:22] <lqi> any suggestion? thanks
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> lqi: could you attach your apt output in a pastebin please, so volunteers van think along with you?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> *can
[12:24] <lqi> lotuspsychje: https://gist.github.com/liangqi/2adba826e3c266868bfa0b497d9bbaab , could you access it?
[12:24] <lqi> thanks
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> not sure myself lqi i can access http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/universe/dep11/by-hash/SHA256/ so it seems
[12:32] <lqi> my "apt" can access it, just "Hash Sum mismatch", perhaps sth is related with "sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::CompressionTypes::Order::=gz" kind of things
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> lqi: maybe the ubuntu-mirrors guys might know more of it, but they work on office hours
[12:32] <lqi> lotuspsychje: thanks for the info
[12:33] <lqi> assume it's a mismatch between old apt shipped with old versions and the current *updated* files in server side
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> ild around here a bit lqi more volunteers are waking up at this time, maybe someone else has ideas
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> *idle
[12:35] <lqi> sure
[13:20] <V|A> when i login to the os, thers a very short but massive graphical glitch should this worry me
[13:20] <V|A> there might be other glitches now aswell, very short
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> V|A: ubuntu version? xorg/wayland?
[14:10] <V|A> lotuspsychje its 20.4 and i dont know what that other stuff is
[14:10] <V|A> 20.04
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> V|A: could you paste your dmesg please? volunteers can take a look for you
[14:12] <V|A> i have no idea what youre talking about sry :}
[14:12] <V|A> and am on a different machine here
[14:12] <EriC^^> V|A: if you run in a terminal "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" it should upload a paste for you and give a link
[14:12] <V|A> BTW <<3<3<33<3<
[14:13] <V|A> i switched the HDMI cable and fairy sure not a single glitch since then
[14:13] <V|A> ty
[14:52] <aw1> hi all! I am trying to create a bootable ubuntu usb from a non-ubuntu linux. I tried the following "sudo dd if=path/to/ubuntu/iso of=/dev/sdc" but the usb is not able to boot the laptop. Most tutorials are advising to use the "Startup Disk Creator" but I don't have a unbuntu box.
[14:53] <EriC^> aw1: dd is pretty much the best method, as long as it wrote everything, did you run "sync" after dd to be sure it copied it all?
[14:54] <aw1> yes EriC^ i finish with a 'sudo sync' after a dd
[14:54] <EriC^> aw1: also, might as well run a checksum on the iso so you know it's 100%
[14:54] <ravage> There are a lot of other tools available that can help. unetbootin or baleaEther if you don't want to fiddle with dd
[14:54] <aw1> EriC^, ok. thanks.
[14:54] <EriC^^> aw1: which laptop model is it?
[14:54] <ravage> Some old laptops may also refuse to boot from USB correctly
[14:55] <aw1> it is an old dell (from about 6 years ago)
[14:55] <aw1> i had installed ubuntu 16.04 on it sometime back
[14:56] <EriC^^> aw1: did you try pressing F12 to get the one-time boot menu?
[14:56] <EriC^^> aw1: also it might be worth trying another usb port, and seeing what settings are in the bios if the usb isnt showing up in that list
[14:56] <aw1> EriC^^, sure. let me try.
[14:56] <aw1> thanks
[14:57] <aw1> had come here to get some verification on the dd method. Now I will double check all my steps. thanks.
[14:57] <leftyfb> aw1: also, make sure no partitions from sdc are mounted before writing the iso
[14:58] <aw1> yes I was following the archwiki for this step.
[14:58] <aw1> thanks leftyfb ^
[15:58] <john_rambo> How do I know if my system is infected ? How do I remove this backdoor/malware ? https://www.zdnet.com/article/rotajakiro-a-linux-backdoor-that-has-flown-under-the-radar-for-years/
[16:00] <ravage> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RKhunter but I would just assume you are not infected
[16:11] <john_rambo> installing rkhunter
[16:16] <blb4393> hello, i'm installing ubuntu on a computer with win10. Is that correct that the device for the boot loader installation should be existing 100M efi partiotion with Windows Boot Manager?
[16:18] <tomreyn> john_rambo: https://blog.netlab.360.com/stealth_rotajakiro_backdoor_en/ discusses how to detect and remove it. But the approach of reading on a specific malware, then trying to check whether your system is infected by this specific malware, seems pretty wrong to me. If yu are that worried, you should not focus on specific threats but use ossec or the like. but this is really a massive effort for - unlike you have compelling reasons to expect to
[16:18] <tomreyn> be individually targeted - no gain.
[16:19] <tomreyn> blb4393: if you're dual booting using EFI, yes
[16:20] <tomreyn> blb4393: the efi system partition is meant to be the one and only partition containing all the boot loaders.
[16:22] <blb4393> tomreyn: ok, thanks. I'm always unsure if I do those partitioning steps correctly. One mistake and game over, ha
[16:22] <tomreyn> also consider using virtualization for one of those systems instead of doing multi-boot, though. if your hardware can handle it, this is a much better approach in my opinion
[16:23] <blb4393> no, i want to keep existing win10. That installation isn't for me
[16:31] <blb4393> i also want to keep existing home partition I have on an ssd. If I select that partition as /home but would not select format, will the content of it be kept? I just dont' want to figure out later that it won't be kept
[16:32] <tomreyn> That's what I'd expect to happen. But surely no OS installation should be done without having complete and current backups.
[16:33] <tomreyn> I'd also prefer to just copy data over to the new /home path post installation
[16:33] <sol-86> hello all
[16:34] <sol-86> cp file1 file2
[16:34] <sol-86> I am writing a unix like operating system for my homebrew minicomputer
[16:34] <sol-86> its built from 74HC logic gates
[16:34] <sol-86> 16bit with virtual memory
[16:35] <tomreyn> sol-86: hi. is this an ubuntu support question?
[16:35] <sol-86> its terminal is connected to the web
[16:35] <sol-86> where can I find a pure linux kernel channel?
[16:35] <tomreyn> sol-86: apparently this is off-topic here
[16:35] <tomreyn> maybe try ##linux
[16:35] <sol-86> sure
[16:36] <sol-86> I am always off topic
[16:36] <sol-86> i like breaking rules :D
[16:36] <tomreyn> well, we don't like that here
[16:36] <sol-86> well
[16:36] <sol-86> theres a lot of banning going on on places like reddit
[16:37] <sol-86> you cant speak unless mods approve what you say
[16:37] <sol-86> thats very bad
[18:01] <floogy> Hi, i currently upgraded from mysql-8 to mariadb-10.3. The database server no longer starts. I got errors like [ERROR] InnoDB: Invalid flags 0x4000 in ./ibdata1
[18:01] <floogy> ubuntu mysqld[2692573]: 2021-05-09 19:57:07 0 [Warning] Could not increase number of max_open_files to more than 16384 (request: 32186)
[18:01] <floogy> ulimit is unlimited
[18:01] <V|A> this no "irq handler for vector" stuff is bothering me ._.
[18:02] <floogy> ulimit is unlimited. $ sudo cat /etc/systemd/system/mariadb.service.d/override.conf
[18:02] <floogy> LimitNOFILE=100000
[18:02] <floogy> LimitMEMLOCK=10000
[18:03] <floogy> I also did systemctl daemon-reload
[18:03] <floogy>     Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/mariadb.service.d
[18:03] <floogy>              └─override.conf
[19:18] <tehuty> I got this message and falling back to readline "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog" What to do to intilize the process again?
[19:18] <tehuty> https://paste.debian.net/1196928/
[19:22] <Volund> So this is likely to sound like a very silly question. How do I check if my Linux kernel was compiled with transparent proxy support?
[19:26] <john_rambo> I just used rkhunter to scan for rootkits. This is the first time I am using rkhunter. The log says "Possible rootkits: 8" but the log is so huge I cant locate the name if the rootkits ....Someone familiar with rkhunter please help me spot the rootkits ....https://paste2.org/WcegHavK
[19:28] <TJ-> john_rambo: line 1747 ... basically, Firefox processes !
[19:30] <TJ-> john_rambo: the only one I don't readily recognise, and cannot find in 20.04, is /usr/bin/xed
[19:31] <TJ-> john_rambo: also usr/libexec/csd-background ... but that *may* be related to cinnamon -settings-daemon
[19:32] <john_rambo> TJ-: In your opinion are those real rootkits or false positives ? I am confused about which search term to Google
[19:35] <TJ-> john_rambo: Looks to be those warnings are only there because rkhunter thinks anything more than 1MiB of shared memory (/dev/shm) used by a process is suspicious
[19:37] <john_rambo> TJ-: Thanks ....I have no ports open. No internet facings servers. In my case is a rootkit infection (still) possible ? I dont install anything outside of the repos
[19:39] <TJ-> john_rambo: nothing is 'impossible' but if you adopt sensible procedures as you've described infection is extremely unlikely unless someone wants to specifically target you
[19:40] <john_rambo> Got it
[19:47] <trohrt> Hey guys
[19:47] <trohrt> I joined my ubuntu 20.04 host to microsoft AD domain
[19:47] <trohrt> with sssd
[19:48] <trohrt> Does anybody know how i can mount a domain network share using domain permissions (and actually have ubuntu inherit the domain permissions as if i were on file server?)
[19:53] <tatertots> you can supply the proper credentials including domain with the mount options/arguments
[19:53] <trohrt> I have done this already
[19:54] <trohrt> The FS is mounted as root
[19:54] <trohrt> and none of the permissions i have set server-side are applied to files, it is just root:root with default mask
[19:54] <tatertots> root has permission to mount things...so that is expected...your windows admin account does NOT
[19:56] <trohrt> I understand this
[19:56] <trohrt> The share is hosted on another Ubuntu 20.04 server with smbd
[19:56] <tatertots> you'll have to work within it...and it may not be a perfect fit for your environment and work flows
[19:57] <trohrt> This server is a domain member, and I am able to r+w from the share from other domain members with the permissions when mounting
[19:57] <trohrt> When I mount with ubuntu file browser, i don't have the issues i'm having when mounting manually
[19:59] <tatertots> so you are %100 GNU/Linux environment relying on samba 4.x to do ADDS...that should be a interesting endeavor
[20:01] <tatertots> in time you'll adjust any work flows accordingly
[20:02] <trohrt> No
[20:02] <trohrt> The domain is hosted with Microsoft ADDS
[20:02] <trohrt> It is a mixed domain.
[20:02] <trohrt> The network share is hosted from ubuntu
[20:03] <trohrt> and I am trying to allow a service from my web server to r+w from externally hosted data over local network
[20:03] <trohrt> I think i have it figured out though; i am manually passing uid,gid to mount options and this is good enough for me
[20:44] <dontlook> so is there a way to have this dialog let me select a different administrator? https://imgur.com/a/BXoZQOT
[20:47] <dontlook> test_admin2 is also in the sudo and admins group
[21:13] <tatertots> trohrt: yes passing the proper credentials(including but not limited to uid/gid) when mounting should get the job done
[21:13] <trohrt> well it didn't :P
[21:13] <trohrt> at least, from a permissions perspective
[21:14] <tatertots> trohrt: your work flows will be analyzed and managed accordingly....in time lol
[21:14] <trohrt> ?
[21:18] <trohrt> what is that supposed to mean? lol
[21:20] <tomreyn> trohrt: i would think passing uid,gid as mount options is exactly the right approach for cifs mounts. what's the other approach you had on your mind / hoped would work?
[21:20] <trohrt> tomreyn: none, that did not work for me so i've sorta given up for now
[21:21] <trohrt> i wonder what is done differently when i mount via file manager in Ubuntu 20.04 desktop
[21:21] <tomreyn> trohrt: you can check using the "mount" command
[21:27] <dave_uy> What I do if a docker.io fails to upgrade? mv: cannot stat '/var/lib/docker.migrating/*': No such file or directory
[21:32] <tomreyn> !details | dave_uy: more context neeed
[21:32] <tomreyn> dave_uy: there is bug 1882942 which is my first search result on this error message
[21:33] <tomreyn> ... but you may be doing something completely different
[21:34] <dave_uy> That looks like the issue I'm having. I also posted here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1337208/what-do-i-do-to-upgrade-docker-io-if-it-fails-with-apt-upgrade
[21:34] <dave_uy> I'm going to read the issue and try to workaround.
[22:46] <sla3k> Folks, just installed Ubuntu 20 LTS server version on a test VM and after a few minutes, SSH connection shows 'broken pipe' and when I try to reconnect to the server again, I get Connection refused until I reboot the VM..is this know?
[22:46] <sla3k> s/know/known
[22:59] <rfm> sla3k, well, there are tens of thousands of 20.04 server installs where it doesn't happen, so it must be something peculiar to your install..
[22:59] <leftyfb> sla3k: which hypervisor are you using?
[23:00] <leftyfb> sla3k: also, to be clear, you're running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. There is no "20"
[23:00] <sla3k> Proxmox, I changed SSH port, so right now changing it back to 22 to see if it makes any difference
[23:00] <sla3k> leftyfb: Yes, 20.04 LTS
[23:00] <leftyfb> sla3k: the port isn't going to make a difference
[23:01] <rfm> sla3k, first thing I'd do is check if sshd is crashing.  You'd need to log in to the console (however you do that with proxmox) and check "systemctl status sshd.service"
[23:01] <sla3k> True, its the same
[23:01] <leftyfb> sla3k: I'm not familiar with proxmox. Is is based on some other hypervisor technology?
[23:01] <rfm> it's a front end for KVM
[23:01] <leftyfb> rfm: I would be very surprised if this has anything to do with ssh itself
[23:01] <sla3k> rfm: funny thing is that 'sshd' is running while all this happens.
[23:02] <metbsd> is it recommended to use wayland or x11 in 20.04
[23:02] <leftyfb> metbsd: depends on your needs
[23:02] <sla3k> I have 2 other VM's (one Ubuntu 1604 and Ubuntu 18.04, both LTS) and this never happened on those..hence the suspicion
[23:03] <metbsd> need.. i need a good gui system that's nice
[23:03] <leftyfb> sla3k: next time this happens, see if you can ping the guest. See if the guest OS (out of band) has an ip and can ping out (host or gateway if bridged)
[23:03] <leftyfb> metbsd: wayland and xorg have nothing to do with how the GUI looks
[23:04] <leftyfb> metbsd: try ubuntu 20.04 or 21.04. You will be able to choose between them. Decide for yourself
[23:04] <sla3k> Yes, guest can ping out to google, guest is ping'able (if that's a word) from other hosts
[23:04] <metbsd> i need a good windows system that's good.
[23:04] <metbsd> what's their difference
[23:05] <leftyfb> metbsd: this is a support channel. Feel free to ask software opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:05] <metbsd> which is better to use
[23:05] <metbsd> wayland on ubuntu is offtopic?
[23:05] <leftyfb> sla3k: are you experiencing the issue right now? The guest pings in both directions yet no ssh?
[23:05] <sla3k> Yes
[23:05] <leftyfb> metbsd: software opinions are offtopic
[23:06] <leftyfb> sla3k: ok, on the guest, run: sudo lsof -i :22
[23:06] <leftyfb> metbsd: https://itsfoss.com/best-linux-desktop-environments/
[23:07] <sla3k> leftyfb: sshd running and listening on 22
[23:07] <leftyfb> sla3k: ok, and you can't currently ssh to it from the host or other devices on the same network?
[23:07] <metbsd> i'm not asking desktop environment. I'm asking windows systems. X11, wayland, you know?
[23:08] <leftyfb> metbsd: you do realize that those do not have anything to do with how your desktop looks or feels right?
[23:08] <sla3k> yes, tried windows, ubuntu 16 and 18..no SSH and it says connection refused as opposed to connection timed out or something
[23:08] <leftyfb> sla3k: is this guest on a bridged network or NAT?
[23:09] <sla3k> Bridged, all my VM's (around 9) are on bridged
[23:09] <leftyfb> metbsd: https://www.secjuice.com/wayland-vs-xorg/
[23:09] <sla3k> Hmm... I did set the static IP when installing the system..should I switch to DHCP and see what happens
[23:09] <leftyfb> sla3k: ok, simple test. start a ping to the guest from some other device on same network. Then power the guest off
[23:10] <leftyfb> sla3k: if you'd like help, please follow along with troubleshooting
[23:11] <metbsd> i don't see what those design flaws mean to us users.
[23:11] <FreeBDSM> is it enough to install zfs-fuse to be able to mount zfs-partitioned disk in ubuntu (18.04)?
[23:12] <sla3k> leftyfb: did that..VM came back in about 5 seconds (reboot)
[23:12] <leftyfb> sla3k: I didn't say reboot. I said power it off
[23:12] <sla3k> oh okay, read it in a hurry
[23:12] <sla3k> on it
[23:13] <leftyfb> sla3k: keep the ping going
[23:13] <sla3k> halt'ed, ping stopped getting replies
[23:13] <leftyfb> sla3k: ok, power back on. That is a pretty common issue that happens more often then you would think
[23:14] <leftyfb> sla3k: when it's back up run this on the guest:  journalctl -fu ssh   # and try to ssh in
[23:14] <sla3k> Really? wrong IP address configured?
[23:14] <sla3k> Okay
[23:15] <sla3k> journalctl running
[23:15] <leftyfb> sla3k: yes, trying to ssh to the wrong ip happens quite often
[23:15] <sla3k> leftyfb: SSH working again..but not sure for how long
[23:15] <sla3k> I'll let journalctl running
[23:42] <FreeBDSM> is it enough to install zfs-fuse to be able to mount zfs-partitioned disk in ubuntu (18.04)?
[23:43] <FreeBDSM> is there a difference between OpenZFS and ZFS?
[23:45] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: have you tried to mount a zfs filesystem and got an error?
[23:46] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: I googled how to do that and internets tell me to uze zpool to import first and I simply don't have such a command
[23:46] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: zfsutils-linux give you zpool