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[12:05] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> I do not get it, trying to install anbox on my Meizu pro5 and this is a copy of the terminal frank@frank-System-Product-Name:~$ export CODENAME="turbo" && export PARTITIONNAME="bootimg" … frank@frank-System-Product-Name:~$ wget http://cdimage.ubports.com/anbox-images/anbox-boot-$CODENAME.img … --2021-05-12 14:01:54--  http://cdimage.u
[12:05] <ubptgbot> bports.com/anbox-images/anbox-boot-turbo.img … Resolving cdimage.ubports.com (cdimage.ubports.com)... 104.21.0.97, 172.67.150.210, 2606:4700:3030::6815:61, ... … Connecting to cdimage.ubports.com (cdimage.ubports.com)|104.21.0.97|:80... connected. … HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently … Location: https://cdimage.ubports.co
[12:05] <ubptgbot> m/anbox-images/anbox-boot-turbo.img [following] … --2021-05-12 14:01:54--  https://cdimage.ubports.com/anbox-images/anbox-boot-turbo.img … Connecting to cdimage.ubports.com (cdimage.ubports.com)|104.21.0.97|:443... connected. … HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK … Length: 21245952 (20M) [application/octet-stream] … Saving to: ‘anbox-boo
[12:05] <ubptgbot> t-turbo.img.2’ … anbox-boot-turbo.im 100%[[12:05] <ubptgbot> rting it now on port 5037 * … * daemon started successfully * … List of devices attached  … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ anbox-tool install … Anbox kernel is not installed! Please flash this first! … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$
[12:06] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> This was the 3th time, so prob why it says anbox-boot-turbo.img.2
[12:07] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> what do I do wrong? anybody
 you may not need that
 have you tried `anbox-tool  install`?
 [Edit] have you tried anbox-tool install?
 [Edit] have you tried 'anbox-tool install'?
 [Edit] have you tried `anbox-tool install`?
 oh never mind now i see you did
[12:09] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> I just follow ubports docs.....yes 3th last line.
 just a moment
[12:10] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> according ubports docs meizu pro5  needs to install kernel first, the line I copied in a terminal on my host
[12:12] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> like written here: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html
[12:12] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> phablet is in dev mode
 did you flash the image?
 [Edit] did you actually flash the image?
 particularly this part:
 [Edit] particularly this part: … ```sudo reboot -f bootloader # 'adb shell' will exit after this command, the prompt will be back on your host … sudo fastboot flash $PARTITIONNAME anbox-boot-$CODENAME.img … sudo fastboot reboot … rm anbox-boot-$CODENAME.img … exit```
[12:16] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> well...there I am not sure now
[12:18] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> I am a bit of a noob, but here I dont have to change PARTITIONNAME and CODENAME into turbo and bootimg, right?
[12:29] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> does this means that my phone is not connected via adb? frank@frank-System-Product-Name:~$ adb devices … List of devices attached … frank@frank-System-Product-Name:~$
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 17 released? Not getting in ub ports installer
 @D4R1IN9 [17 released? Not getting in ub ports installer], It isn't labelled by OTA. If it has been uploaded it will be called Stable
 @Stereofont [It isn't labelled by OTA. If it has been uploaded it will be called Stable], K tq for responding
 @Frank Gores [well...there I am not sure now], Use this bootimg  … https://cdimage.ubports.com/anbox-images/anbox-boot-turbo-test.img … Vol down + power … sudo fastboot flash bootimg anbox-boot-turbo-test.img … Reboot and … Sudo su … mount -o remount, rw / … anbox-tool install
[12:59] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> ok, bit too unclear: this bootimg I understand, I replace the part in the ubports regarding my turbo related stuff by yours. (typed in terminal of host), thereafter I do vol down +power so the phone reboots....and then I open a terminal and do sudo fastboot flash....etc?
 Hum ho. I switched from RC to stable, downloaded an update, chose to restart and install... now my OpO hangs at the boot splash. Any pointers? … I can boot into recovery but don't see anything useful when I'm there.
 [Edit] Hum ho. I switched from RC to stable, downloaded an update, chose to restart and install... now my OpO hangs at the boot splash. Any pointers please? … I can boot into recovery but don't see anything useful when I'm there.
 @klaartje_b [Hum ho. I switched from RC to stable, downloaded an update, chose to restart and …], If nothing else works, try running the installer over it?
 @Fuseteam [particularly this part: … sudo reboot -f bootloader # 'adb shell' will exit after …], Sir there is no way to go back to home screen while apps are open or it's just my devices specific bug?
 @Danfro [If nothing else works, try running the installer over it?], He can do factory reset
 @Danfro [If nothing else works, try running the installer over it?], Okay, so connect it to the laptop and start the installer? Will try.
 @D4R1IN9 [He can do factory reset], She would rather not lose all her data.
 @klaartje_b [Okay, so connect it to the laptop and start the installer? Will try.], Yes. Although sometimes I 'solved' hangs by rebooting with volume up + power. Maybe try that first. Might be device specific.
 @klaartje_b [She would rather not lose all her data.], Running installer over it won't wipes the data?
 @Danfro [Yes. Although sometimes I 'solved' hangs by rebooting with volume up + power. Ma …], Will most definitely try that first, thank you.
 @D4R1IN9 [Running installer over it won't wipes the data?], No, unless you tick the 'wipe' box.
 @klaartje_b [Will most definitely try that first, thank you.], Good luck. 👍
 @Danfro [No, unless you tick the 'wipe' box.], Great tq
 A very important checkbox! 😀
 @Danfro [Good luck. 👍], It's telling me 'fastboot mode'.
 @Danfro [A very important checkbox! 😀], Yes still figuring out major difference between android custom rom and ut
 @klaartje_b [It's telling me 'fastboot mode'.], Try this when plugged into a laptop. I thonk then it won't go into fastboot.
 @klaartje_b [It's telling me 'fastboot mode'.], [Edit] Try this when plugged into a laptop. I think then it won't go into fastboot.
 The OnePlus One will always go into fastboot mode when you hold power and volume up. That's the point :)
 Will do. Fastboot is weird... it's not fast and it's not booting.
 Power and volume down moves to recovery
 And recovery doesn't recover anything. 🙃
 😂
 @D4R1IN9 [Yes still figuring out major difference between android custom rom and ut], UT is a different OS. 😀 Not an android remake.
 @Danfro [UT is a different OS. 😀 Not an android remake.], Ik just trying to understand the ut
 @D4R1IN9 [Ik just trying to understand the ut], You picked a hard task. 😬
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/pkhBm30t.png
 i ran ssh again using a new key but its the same result
 @Danfro [UT is a different OS. 😀 Not an android remake.], Like anbox is not supported on my dev redmi note 7 pro not even unofficially but still im getting it as adb dev in terminal with fresh installation of ut
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/l94mfmNf.jpeg
 @Danfro [You picked a hard task. 😬], 😅100%agree😅
 @D4R1IN9 [Like anbox is not supported on my dev redmi note 7 pro not even unofficially but …], I never used Anbox myself. I only remember that with the last OTA some sort of install script was included. So IF it is supported, it is easier to install.
 Something in that line.
 @Danfro [I never used Anbox myself. I only remember that with the last OTA some sort of i …], Great
 @Danfro [Something in that line.], Volte is the only thing that restricting me to use it as daily driver my isp only supports 4g and volte cslli no 3g band
 @D4R1IN9 [Volte is the only thing that restricting me to use it as daily driver my isp onl …], From what I know Volte runs on no custom rom yet. If you need that, you are restricted to Apple or Android.
 @Danfro [From what I know Volte runs on no custom rom yet. If you need that, you are rest …], That's main problem here
 Well, I reflashed it... now it's installing updates again, so let's see.
 @klaartje_b [Well, I reflashed it... now it's installing updates again, so let's see.], ota 17?😜
 @D4R1IN9 [That's main problem here], Gladly no issue here.
 @klaartje_b [Well, I reflashed it... now it's installing updates again, so let's see.], Sounds good.
 @D4R1IN9 [ota 17?😜], How would I know? Most likely yes.
 @Danfro [Gladly no issue here.], Here 2g bands already shutdown 3g will also removed asa 5g takeover
 @klaartje_b [How would I know? Most likely yes.], Which channel u selected on installer
 Stable.
 @klaartje_b [How would I know? Most likely yes.], No. 16 is out. If you are not on devel, it is not OTA17. Or did I miss 17?
 Rebooting now...
 @D4R1IN9 [Here 2g bands already shutdown 3g will also removed asa 5g takeover], Yes, 3g is going. But 2g and 4g are still up.
 Hurray, it's booted and all is well. It's on OTA 16.
 @Frank Gores [ok, bit too unclear: this bootimg I understand, I replace the part in the ubport …], ```I will give you more details in an hour, I have the same device, which I have been using for over a year```
 @klaartje_b [Hurray, it's booted and all is well. It's on OTA 16.], Horray! 🍾
 @Danfro [Horray! 🍾], Ota is comming?
 😃😃😃
 Dude calm down. It's ready when it's ready
 @UniversalSuperBox [Dude calm down. It's ready when it's ready], Sorry I'm too excited
 UBports Installer just saved my Bacon 😄
 (I'm sure you get that joke a lot...)
 No, actually. That might have been a brand new sentence!
 Huh. I figured that if you're using a device with the codename Bacon, the dad jokes pretty much make themselves.
 @klaartje_b [UBports Installer just saved my Bacon 😄], Just wondering if there is a device named egg to go with that. 😅
 that is a good one :)
 @Danfro [Just wondering if there is a device named egg to go with that. 😅], There is a cheesburger
 Are there any vegetarian devices? Tofu maybe?
 😝
 @klaartje_b [Are there any vegetarian devices? Tofu maybe?], @lukasz_erecinski I found the codename for the next PinePhone
 Hah! And now I'm getting hungry...
 @klaartje_b [Hah! And now I'm getting hungry...], ...and popular soon as (hungry) name-giver. 😉
 @D4R1IN9 [Sir there is no way to go back to home screen while apps are open or it's just m …], there is no home screen really. you can open the launcher and app drawer by swiping in from the left edge of the screen
 @dohbee [there is no home screen really. you can open the launcher and app drawer by swip …], Great i thought it was my dev problem
 @D4R1IN9 [Sir there is no way to go back to home screen while apps are open or it's just m …], "there is no homescreen" stares into the abyss
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 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ouuarXbT.txt
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/L7Ldk2Px.txt
 @Fuseteam ["there is no homescreen" stares into the abyss], K got it👍
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 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/vDaRgcoi.txt
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/HhIcJJ5e.txt
 @UniversalSuperBox [@lukasz_erecinski I found the codename for the next PinePhone], TofuPhone?
 PaneerPhone
 lol
 @lukasz_erecinski [TofuPhone?], No, it's the PinePhone whatever (codename tofu)
 Introducing PinePhone, Paneer edition
 *went to learn something about tofu* coagulated soy milk
 Hmm, nope, I think there will still be no device with the codename Tofu @klaartje_b
 Poor tofu... it never gets any love. 🥺
 @bhushanshah [PaneerPhone], Mmm, maybe we should find the ut cooking chat, I'm getting hungry, really like getting Chana Aloo from the store :)
 If egg is no good either, how about `pinephone omelette (savoury editon)`? 🥚
[15:30] <ubptgbot> <Frank Gores> @Jaymz665 [<reply to media>], Ohw, thank you very much! I am going to study it now...let you know the outcome.
 Why not pinephone Snickers?
 y'all seriously need to take a lunch
 Imma have frenchfries
 Lunch or take the suggestions to PINE64, they're OT here.
 n'aww... you're right
 @klaartje_b [How would I know? Most likely yes.], Just got the news. OTA 17 is out. So update time... 😉
 Opa that didn't take long noice
 @Danfro [Just got the news. OTA 17 is out. So update time... 😉], Nice
 @D4R1IN9 [Nice], As a devel user, I wasn't aware that OTA 17 was that close. 😉
 @Danfro [As a devel user, I wasn't aware that OTA 17 was that close. 😉], 😂then it doesn't matter to you because you may using it earlier 😂
 As "dev build"
 @D4R1IN9 [😂then it doesn't matter to you because you may using it earlier 😂], Exactly. That is fun and risk of using devel on your daily driver. 😁
 @Danfro [Exactly. That is fun and risk of using devel on your daily driver. 😁], I choose rc
 @D4R1IN9 [I choose rc], A very good choice. Quite stable but still getting a lot of features earlier.
 @Danfro [A very good choice. Quite stable but still getting a lot of features earlier.], Btw you are in community as a dev?
 @D4R1IN9 [Btw you are in community as a dev?], Yes. That is why I am on devel. So I could test things before they got rolled out. I am maintaining weather app as one example.
 @D4R1IN9 [Btw you are in community as a dev?], [Edit] Yes. That is why I am on devel. So I could test things before they got rolled out. I am maintaining weather app as one example of my work.
 @Danfro [Yes. That is why I am on devel. So I could test things before they got rolled ou …], Dam great i was about to ask you about apps
 I am not doing system development. Just apps.
 That's great
 What we need in ut is ton of apps(mob interface)
 @D4R1IN9 [What we need in ut is ton of apps(mob interface)], True. But for that we need ton's of developers. Some core apps do not even have maintainers. Lack of manpower.
 If want to dev a app for ut then which language should i have to know
 I did web designing in past
 The UI is in most cases done in qml.
 For backend one can use c++ (system and a lot of apps), javascript, pyhton, rust, go, ...
 Pick your choice. 😊
 c++, javascript and qml are the most common languages.
 @Danfro [For backend one can use c++ (system and a lot of apps), javascript, pyhton, rust …], K i know php java c++ a bit need to work on Python
 Thats a good base. If c++ is involved I am out. Thats why I don't touch the system. 😉
 qml is fairly straightforward. A few years ago I did not even know it exists.
 @Danfro [Thats a good base. If c++ is involved I am out. Thats why I don't touch the syst …], 😂me too i even done projects with embaded c but never tried to learn c++😂
 @Danfro [qml is fairly straightforward. A few years ago I did not even know it exists.], Thanks to my previous company they trained me in web designing
 https://clickable-ut.dev/en/latest/getting-started.html
 https://clickable-ut.dev/en/latest/
 Those two links provide basic information to get anyone started on developing.
 @D4R1IN9 [Thanks to my previous company they trained me in web designing], If you want to do more in that line, Axolotl, our signal app, is using go and css and html. You could help out there too if you like.
 https://github.com/nanu-c/axolotl
 That's the good thing. So many places where even small fixes and commits will make a difference.
 @Danfro [Those two links provide basic information to get anyone started on developing.], I have gone through that on official web site even atom ide setup is also completed then i thought better to Broome my coding before involving
 I started with translations and bug reports.
 Dam u provided a full database tq
 Take your time. Don't worry.
 You learn your way around after some while. 😉
 [Edit] You learn your way around after a while. 😉
 @Danfro [Take your time. Don't worry.], 👍 its not the os which is great it is the dev and community which made it great
 @Danfro [You learn your way around after a while. 😉], Il take time I'm very messy
 So true. 😊 It is fun being part of it.
 @Danfro [So true. 😊 It is fun being part of it.], 🙏🙏🙏
 The good thing about open source is, with some basic understanding a lot of work can be done by copy, amend, paste. You tell me...
 Btw can we install posh somehow
 by using something other than UT
 @Danfro [The good thing about open source is, with some basic understanding a lot of work …], Yaah and if any onle helping it is more helpful
 @dohbee [by using something other than UT], 😂insane 😂
 @Danfro [The good thing about open source is, with some basic understanding a lot of work …], [Edit] Yaah and if any one helping it is more helpful
 @D4R1IN9 [Yaah and if any one helping it is more helpful], That works great. You are not alone. Always teamwork.
 @Danfro [That works great. You are not alone. Always teamwork.], 👍🏻🙏🏻
 To summarize, I tried countless attempts with replacing codecs in anbox (from different firmware and sources) tried replacing binaries, etc. I don’t know what else to try, but the unbox still breaks with video / animation and trying to sound. … I have a question, the "turbo" processor supports armv8, and the whole system is running on ar
[20:33] <ubptgbot> mv7, is that how it should be?
 [Edit] To summarize, I tried countless attempts with replacing codecs in anbox (from different firmware and sources) tried replacing binaries, etc. I don’t know what else to try, but the anbox still breaks with video / animation and trying to sound. … I have a question, the "turbo" processor supports armv8, and the whole system is runnin
[20:34] <ubptgbot> g on armv7, is that how it should be?
 yes. that's how the pro5 and bq m10 builds were made originally
 @dohbee [yes. that's how the pro5 and bq m10 builds were made originally], Those there were no attempts to do it differently or does it not work differently?
 those devices are built differently because they were retail ubuntu edition devices. i don't know if they could be made to run arm64 userspace or not
 i think it's not worth the trouble for us to try to make arm64 userspace work for them, anyway
 @dohbee [i think it's not worth the trouble for us to try to make arm64 userspace work fo …], It's a pity, maybe it would open up other horizons, although maybe not. As they say, you will not try you will not know
 we can't rebuild the recovery image for those devices afaik, and they are more difficult for us to keep supporting in the future, regardless
 I see
 @dohbee [i think it's not worth the trouble for us to try to make arm64 userspace work fo …], Ram would be horrible
 @dohbee [we can't rebuild the recovery image for those devices afaik, and they are more d …], We can
 We just need to do it
 And that's uhhh
 i mean legally
 I mean not using the OEM stuff
 Like how we do now
 pro5 was arm64 hardware, but there is not the kernel and suuff available
 the kernel is arm64
 the userspace is armhf
 oh intresting
 The filling of this device is one of the most powerful at UT, it costs to replace the battery and it is for them to use at least another 4 years
 it is so hard to flash those
 yeah, and they are all getting a bit long in the tooth now, as are some of the other older devices
 and if meizu ever drops their site that grants root...
 although i think they were susceptible to a attack that gets root
 The Pro 5 is easily surpassed in performance today
 The Pixel 3a in particular
 I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone buy a new Pro 5 any mroe
 [Edit] I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone buy a new Pro 5 any more
 (or used)
 @UniversalSuperBox [I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone buy a new Pro 5 any more], Well, I became that lucky guy who bought this device more than a year ago to get to know UT =)
 oh you have a Ubuntu edition?
 @UniversalSuperBox [The Pixel 3a in particular], How is it so far? with just 2g I haven't been using the volla for everyday. I was thinking about trying a new port
 My Sony xp is great but I have used it untill a dead spot has developed on the digitizer
 @mateosalta [oh you have a Ubuntu edition?], The version was Flyme, and there was no easy way to go. But TheKit helped me, it was great, especially since then I just started to learn linux (and I am still learning something new), apparently it's time to change the phone, for something new =)
 @Jaymz665 [The version was Flyme, and there was no easy way to go. But TheKit helped me, it …], Ah yeah, it's even harder with links dying and specific versions of tools to find now
 My OnePlus One is not exactly new but I'm not about to give it up anytime soon.
 @klaartje_b [My OnePlus One is not exactly new but I'm not about to give it up anytime soon.], Mine lost its Mac address, I should just fix it though is a really good device
 now even more camera features work I hear, so it seems it is the most fully working port :)
 @mateosalta [How is it so far? with just 2g I haven't been using the volla for everyday. I wa …], Shameless self-plug: if you can live without VoLTE right now I would recommend the 3a over the Xperia X even.
 @fredldotme [Shameless self-plug: if you can live without VoLTE right now I would recommend t …], 'murica
 @UniversalSuperBox ['murica], Gawdamn
 @fredldotme [Gawdamn], Wanna SSH with friends into a Pixel 3a on an American network
 @UniversalSuperBox [Wanna SSH with friends into a Pixel 3a on an American network], Always up for a little round of SSH With Friends, might do so tomorrow?
 SSH With Friends is the fun new game where you and your friends gain access to a server, but you must align the words on your screen to complete the RCE
 @fredldotme [Always up for a little round of SSH With Friends, might do so tomorrow?], Sounds ok to me
 @fredldotme [Shameless self-plug: if you can live without VoLTE right now I would recommend t …], sweet
 @dohbee [SSH With Friends is the fun new game where you and your friends gain access to a …], Better: Each of you has a different terminal width and have to use `nano` to complete the config file
 Well I don't think tmobile cut us off yet, and att is the end of year maybe?
 @fredldotme [Shameless self-plug: if you can live without VoLTE right now I would recommend t …], Is Xperia x showing progress on volte?
 @mateosalta [Is Xperia x showing progress on volte?], No, my guess is that Halium >= 9 devices will get a taste of it earlier, if and when we get that far
 cool
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 @mateosalta [and if meizu ever drops their site that grants root...], eh? confused
 @Fuseteam [eh? confused], in order to hack the pro5 chinese edition
 @Fuseteam [eh? confused], they require a login to grant root access
 @mateosalta [they require a login to grant root access], ah you mean drop like take down
 i interpreted that as drop like release :p
 yeah, like if sony didnt have the oem unlock page anymore...
 yeah that'd make flashing difficult
 How can I have WhatsApp on UT?
 @llrTKll [How can I have WhatsApp on UT?], WhatsApp doesn't does support UT
 Only WhatsApp can bring WhatsApp to UT
 with that out the way: you can use whatsapp web but as of today, you'll need an active android or ios device with whatsapp to use that
 I know that, I meant like using anbox or another unofficial client
 "unofficial" client i typically discourage in whatsapp case because the are know for banning accoungs using an unoffical accounts
 [Edit] "unofficial" client i typically discourage in whatsapp case because they are known for banning accounts that use an unoffical client
 if your device supports anbox that should work but you won't have notifs, voice or video calls
 at least not right now
 I dont have or use whatsapp, but I use fluffychat to message people on facebook owned platforms along with discord and signal.
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