[00:38] <robertparkerx> is 'ssh -p 8022 ip' correct ?
[00:38] <robertparkerx> for some reason it's not working in my case but just wonder
[00:39] <sarnold> what does "not working" mean?
[00:39] <robertparkerx> it's not connecting from my server manager server to another server like I thought it would normally
[00:40] <robertparkerx> I thought maybe it is because I had to use parathesis or something else
[00:40] <sarnold> what's a server manager server? what error message are you getting? are you sure the sshd on the remote server is listening on that port?
[00:40] <robertparkerx> no error it jjust sits
[00:41] <robertparkerx> yes I'm sure it is that port
[00:41] <robertparkerx> Well the server manager server is just a name for the server that allow access and manage all servers
[00:41] <sarnold> okay, that sounds a little bit like you've got a firewall that drops packets, rather than rejects packets
[00:42] <robertparkerx> Okay so it isn't my syntax or anytng like that
[00:42] <robertparkerx> anything*
[00:43] <sarnold> yeah, that should be fine
[00:43] <robertparkerx> Okay
[00:43] <robertparkerx> ty
[02:13] <ky> rporting intrusion and violation of interenet rights  EMERG*** LANCASTER CA USA LOC MESSAG SENT
[02:28] <yangnom> Hello, I just installed ubuntu on an old mac mini server with two hard drives.  Right now when the mini is booted, it goes to ubuntu first (which is great), but is there anyway to reboot from the ubuntu hard drive into the mac drive?
[03:28] <Elodin> Hi, i have an sshd service configured with pubkey authentication and pubkey is in home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys however when trying to ssh to it: Permission denied(pubkey)
[03:28] <Elodin> what am i missing?
[03:33] <shadow255> Elodin: you might try ssh -v on the remote computer to get more info about the connection negotiation
[03:54] <Elodin> shadow255: okay, should i paste its content here cuz i can't understand the error?
[03:57] <Bashing-om> !paste | Elodin
[05:42] <CarlFK1> <yangnom "Hello, I just installed ubuntu o"> maybe.  you can't really boot "from ubuntu" you have to reboot, and then hope the boot loader gives you choices.  which it sounds like it doesn't, but that can be fixed.
[07:09] <eoli3n_> Hi i followed nvidia procedure to add repo and install cuda, but i have a dependency problem
[07:10] <eoli3n_> https://x0.at/pyO.txt
[07:10] <eoli3n_> any idea ?
[07:14] <TheBigK> eoli3n_: which distro ur using?
[07:14] <eoli3n_> 20.04
[07:14] <eoli3n_> i followed this : https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads?target_os=Linux&target_arch=x86_64&=Ubuntu&target_version=20.04&target_type=deb_network
[07:15] <TheBigK> any cuda related stuff already on ur system?
[07:16] <TheBigK> eoli3n_: do u need the 11.3? or why ur not using the version that comes with ur distro?
[07:19] <eoli3n_> i do not know, i'm not the user, i'm the sysadmin. We bought some computer with RTX, i'm searching for the version
[07:19] <TheBigK> then u may wanna ask. but some package conflicts the install which is already installed. dpkg -l | grep cuda might help?
[07:20] <eoli3n_> nothing
[07:20] <eoli3n_> i mean no cuda already installed
[07:20] <TheBigK> aptitude install might help
[07:20] <TheBigK> if u wanna install aptitude
[07:21] <eoli3n_> why aptitude could help ?
[07:21] <TheBigK> that usually suggests solutions for ur conflict
[07:21] <eoli3n_> ah, didn't know
[07:21] <TheBigK> but be careful. dont accept everything it suggests ;D
[07:22] <TheBigK> eoli3n_: in my experience with cuda things... u dont want to run it in the ubuntu itself
[07:22] <eoli3n_> it conflicts nvidia official packages
[07:22] <TheBigK> the devs have usually weird dependencies related to that
[07:22] <eoli3n_> drivers one
[07:22] <TheBigK> we use the nvidia-docker for that matter
[07:22] <TheBigK> since then no issues anymore
[07:23] <TheBigK> the cuda docker images are shitty and huge... but its better than having to deal with different cuda versions needed
[07:23] <eoli3n_> i will suggest the package nvidia-cuda-toolkit to the user
[07:23] <eoli3n_> i can't install docker on those nodes
[07:23] <TheBigK> eoli3n_: why not?
[07:23] <eoli3n_> security issues
[07:24] <eoli3n_> pedagogic hosts
[07:24] <eoli3n_> users are not root
[07:25] <TheBigK> i understand... okay... good luck then... my hair is still gray with that cuda bullshit :D
[07:25] <TheBigK> how did Linus put it? F U nvidia :D
[07:26] <eoli3n_> yep
[07:26] <eoli3n_> thanks for motivation ahah
[07:37] <lnielsen> Hi all. Having some problems with my desktop and nvidia driver. Need to reinstall the latest driver, but browser isn't really available for obvious reasons. What was the procedure again? I download a shell script and run it?
[07:39] <furycd001> Could go to Setting >> Additional Drivers & then select nvidia driver from there :?
[07:39] <furycd001> I'm on xubuntu so not sure if it's different from ubuntu....
[07:44] <ducasse> morning folks
[08:01] <blackbird_0> Hi, I get this error when try to open phpmyadmin on browser: "The mysqli extension is missing. Please check your PHP configuration."
[08:02] <blackbird_0> php7.4-mysql is already the newest version (7.4.3-4ubuntu2.4).
[08:13] <polve> Hi. Could it be that this affects me 6 years after firt report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1521173
[08:14] <polve> I have a whole lot of these errors and then the computer freezes (I am unable to get a tty working as well): http://ix.io/3myF
[08:16] <DrManhattan> polve, did you try the solution in your own link?
[08:16] <polve> not yet, I am trying to dig a little bit more
[08:19] <DrManhattan> polve, do yourself a favor, try the fix and see if it works
[08:46] <Deknos> does anyone have an example how to get a certificate with sscep/certmonger-scep-submit/sthelse from an ADCS? from the commandline, at best automatable?
[09:30] <euler2718> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 20.04 with Gnome 3.36.8. Is there any way to add Gnote app to top bar?
[10:29] <metbsd> fcitx5 lacks fcitx5-configtool. ibus doesn't work in telegram-desktop
[10:29] <metbsd> there's no usable input method
[10:34] <metbsd> someone put fcitx5-config into 20.04 repository
[11:36] <swensson> What software can I use to create a Windows bootable usb from ubuntu?
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> swensson: winusb or woeusb
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:43] <oehman> Can someone help me with the submeny text? I'm usung mist theme and on 20.04 it's greyed out. On 21.04 it works perfectly
[12:53] <lnielsen> How to view a list of remote smb shares?
[13:01] <zamba> how much cpu should an sftp instance actually consume?
[13:02] <zamba> we're running an ubuntu instance in openstack cloud.. it has 32 vCPUs @ 2.4.. 115 GB RAM.. and when we have 6 concurrent uploads running, then we're seeing a load at 6-7.. and something happens with the overall throughput
[13:48] <metbsd> if i change release update file to normal, it will always get to latest?
[15:08] <thiras> hello. i have a weird problem with the sound. it started to mix input with output channel out of blue
[15:09] <thiras> so even when in the headset, if i play music music piped to input too
[15:09] <thiras> technically all pc sounds are sending as mic sound
[15:10] <thiras> any idea about the problem?
[15:25] <metbsd> what was the package name for latest kernel?
[15:25] <metbsd> linux-lts?
[15:30] <ogra> metbsd, linux-hwe
[15:30] <metbsd> what does hwe mean
[15:39] <Maik> metbsd: Hardware Enablement. Next time google it first?
[15:39] <metbsd> ok
[15:39] <Maik> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[15:39] <metbsd> sorry
[15:40] <Maik> np :)
[16:26] <Intelo>  I got port scan and ssh attach report from aws. I think my ec2 is compromized. What can I do to confirm?
[16:33] <leftyfb> Intelo: wipe it and restore from backup
[16:33] <leftyfb> Intelo: forensics should only be done post-mortem
[16:34] <leftyfb> Intelo: and out of band (not running)
[16:48] <pinheadmz> i installed qbitorrent recently and now whenever i get a slack notificaiton and click on it, it switches to bittorrent (instead fo slack)
[16:48] <pinheadmz> how can i edit which applications open deeplinks ? really notifications
[16:48] <pinheadmz> slack sends the notification that i got a message but when i click it "opens" in bittorrent
[16:50] <leftyfb> pinheadmz: sounds like a bug with the 3rd party application you installed (qbitorrent)
[16:52] <pinheadmz> leftyfb: sure but is there no system setting i can change back?
[16:52] <pinheadmz> i know theers GUI settings for default browser and audio player, etc...
[16:53] <leftyfb> pinheadmz: I don't think this is a mimetype issue. I think it's a bug with the unsupported application
[16:54] <pinheadmz> how would app B affect what happens to notifications from app A ?
[16:54] <pinheadmz> in such a way that a system configuration cant fix ?
[17:21] <pinheadmz> leftyfb: oh hm i wonder if the issue is that slack and qbitorrent are both built with electron!
[17:24] <donofrio> if netstat -plant doesn't show a process id assigned to a port how else can I see what is running on port 25?
[17:24] <leftyfb> donofrio: sudo lsof -i :25
[17:25] <donofrio> nothing returned
[17:25] <leftyfb> donofrio: then nothing is listening on port 25
[17:26] <donofrio> but when I did a netstat -plant | grep LISTEN it shows up?
[17:26] <leftyfb> donofrio: do you have a mail client running trying to send?
[17:26] <leftyfb> donofrio: pastebin the output
[17:27] <donofrio> I can telnet to localhost 25 fwiw
[17:27] <donofrio> and do HELO type of talk
[17:27] <leftyfb> donofrio: that makes no sense. If lsof doesn't show it listening, then nothing is listening
[17:28] <donofrio> I agree hence why I'm asking here ;)
[17:28] <leftyfb> donofrio: sudo netstat -plant | grep LISTEN|grep :25
[17:29] <donofrio> two listed tcp and tcp6
[17:29] <leftyfb> donofrio: pastebin please
[18:38] <choco31415b> Hello. I have a simple question if that's okay. I'm looking for a Ubuntu program that automatically shuts off the computer at a specific time each day, aka a self managed service that doesn't require user input. Is rc.local the right way to go about this?
[18:38] <choco31415b> *Ignore the word program. My bad there.
[18:44] <sarnold> choco31415b: rc.local probably won't help you
[18:44] <rory> look into crontab choco31415b
[18:44] <rory> choco31415b, https://askubuntu.com/questions/567955/automatic-shutdown-at-specified-times
[18:45] <sarnold> choco31415b: you've got two choices (a) adding a cronjob entry to run shutdown (b) writing a systemd timer to start the shutdown
[18:47] <oehman> now my theme works switched from 20.04 whit problems to 21.04 and it works perfectly
[18:50] <Maik> oehman: well... maybe the theme isn't compatible with 20.04
[18:52] <oehman> old should better work whut that one to
[18:53] <oehman> have been incompatible in drop down menyes for ages but now works again :)
[18:56] <Maik> oehman: if it doesn't work on 20.04 it's probably because of an older GTK versioon and thus NOT compatible
[18:56] <choco31415b> I've done a bit of research. It appears crontab is less bloated then systemd. I'll take a look into it. Thank you rory c:
[18:56] <Maik> i though you've been going through this already yesterday
[18:56] <Aaron> Is there a bug report?
[18:56] <Aaron> To check it out?
[18:57] <rory> yes choco31415b, the syntax has a bit of a learning curve, but once you set it up it will just work forever
[18:57] <rory> there are websites that generate the line anyway
[19:08] <shibboleth> https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/025bd93f36c9923127674ce127e22933592cba6c
[19:09] <shibboleth> uhm, cve2020-foo, was this ever patched in ub?
[19:09] <sarnold> shibboleth: not yet, no
[19:10] <shibboleth> have intel published new fw?
[19:10] <sarnold> shibboleth: sorry, I don't know that one
[19:13] <choco31415b> rory Crontab might have become my favorite Linux service x3
[19:13] <choco31415b> *cron
[19:14] <sarnold> haha
[19:15] <leftyfb> choco31415b: you should look into systemd services and timers though. It's sort of the new way of doing things and way more powerful
[19:20] <choco31415b> leftyfb: Might do. Thank you for the pointer c:
[20:53] <AlexPortable> Trying to add windows to grub, `error: can't find command 'ntldr'`. (in my grub file I have the ntldr /bootmgr)
[21:02] <V|A> AlexPortable i found a program GRUB customizer
[21:02] <V|A> that helped me remove some prokenb entries. it offers more options tho
[21:02] <V|A> i did a relocate but not sure if it worked 100% or just created some reference file
[21:04] <TJ-> AlexPortable: V|A: be aware grub-customiser has been well known to make changes that break things and makes it difficult to repair if things go wrong
[21:05] <AlexPortable> this seems a GUI to add entries myself, which is roughly the same as editing the config files
[21:06] <V|A> indeed
[21:06] <V|A> im a noob
[21:07] <V|A> but since it didnt really move the bootloader i dont trust it fully
[21:07] <V|A> i just wanted things fast as im testing hardware and dont have eternity to retun it
[21:35] <linuxxl> I did the thing
[21:41] <sorta_noob> So, I just installed 21.04. Fresh wiped drive. On first boot, upon logging in, it flashes screen a few times then returns to login screen. Confirmed that the account info is correct by changing to second console and logging in there successfully. Anyone have a suggestion for tracking down what's going wrong?
[21:45] <sarnold> sorta_noob: check the ~/.xsession-errors file, if it exists; check the system journal too with journalctl
[21:46] <AlexPortable> sorta_noob: try a different desktop environment (bottom right button)
[21:47] <sorta_noob> ~/xsession-errors does not exist. Trying change DE now.
[21:47] <sarnold> sorta_noob: did you forget the . when looking for the file?
[21:47] <sorta_noob> no, just in irc was it missed
[21:48] <sarnold> okay cool
[21:49] <sorta_noob> There is no bottom-right button on the login screen... Don't see anything else about switching DEs
[21:50] <TJ-> sorta_noob: in a console (e.g. tty2) log-in and then examine the user session logs with "journalctl --user -b" - it sometimes catches interesting clues
[21:50] <sorta_noob> Checking system journal now
[21:52] <MikeRL> Well, I converted my disk setup to RAID0 on my desktop. Too many drives after I added 2 NVMe SSDs. Problem is, the UUID is now incorrect and I get an error dropping me to a shell. I am trying to resolve the issue but the Ubuntu Live CD won't pick up the RAID array.
[21:52] <MikeRL> For some reason changing stuff to RAID0 didn't mess up Win10, but Ubuntu won't boot. I don't recall the exact error but I can check soon.
[21:53] <MikeRL> Said something along the lines of "missing modules cat /proc/modules ls /dev"
[21:54] <TJ-> MikeRL: with what tool did you "convert to RAID0" and what was the config previously?
[21:54] <MikeRL> Well I used the BIOS.
[21:54] <MikeRL> I think the live cd doesn't support raid but the alt cd does.
[21:55] <TJ-> MikeRL: so, Soft/Fake RAID then
[21:55] <sorta_noob> Errors begin with "Failed to start gnome-session" (ignored warnings about things that didn't seem critical). A bunch of errors about radeon (I don't think this laptop has an amd chip, but I may be wrong, think it's just intel graphics) Some Wayland crashes, some failed dbus writes (says connection closed).
[21:55] <MikeRL> I am guessing so yes.
[21:55] <MikeRL> Previously was SATA.
[21:56] <TJ-> MikeRL: in which case, depending on which FakeRAID it is, you may need to add something in the Live Environment to recognise those devices
[21:56] <MikeRL> TJ-, How do I figure out what to add?
[21:56] <TJ-> MikeRL: Are you using the LiveISO 'Try' option right now?
[21:56] <MikeRL> And how do I determine the type of FakeRAID?
[21:56] <MikeRL> Yes the try option right now.
[21:57] <MikeRL> If I gotta leave it I can do IRC on my Android phone.
[21:57] <TJ-> MikeRL: great! Open a terminal and check if "mdadm" runs or reports not found
[21:57] <MikeRL> Not the most efficient byt it works.
[21:57] <MikeRL> I actually installed that from a live session already after googling the error.
[21:57] <sarnold> MikeRL: this guide hasn't been updated in six years, and it even looks like it was probably old even then, but maybe it's helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[21:57] <TJ-> MikeRL: you're still in the same sessions?
[21:58] <MikeRL> Same session, yes.
[21:58] <MikeRL> Is there any way I can save my old install in the process of fixing said error?
[21:58] <MikeRL> I hope so as it took ages to setup/
[21:58] <TJ-> MikeRL: great. show us what's there right now so we can see how to proceed: " pastebinit <( lsblk ) "
[21:59] <MikeRL> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cQ7bsGwHff/
[21:59] <sorta_noob> OK, I looked up the specs and this laptop does indeed have an AMD Fire Pro chip. I  feel I should to try to blacklist it and see if that helps. Doing my own looking up to remind myself how to blacklist a graphics chip.
[22:00] <MikeRL> I think SDA1 is a standard SSD.
[22:00] <MikeRL> That's what it shows as in gparted.
[22:00] <MikeRL> sdb is the live usb.
[22:03] <MikeRL> The BIOS did complain without RAID enabled. I think because of the third disk.
[22:04] <TJ-> MikeRL: it looks as if the other drives aren't being seen at all
[22:04] <MikeRL> Yeah same conclusion here.
[22:04] <TJ-> MikeRL: we need to look at the kernel log: " pastebinit <( journalctl -k ) "
[22:04] <MikeRL> I think I need the alternative install disk later.
[22:04] <MikeRL> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/msCNHmyQF9/
[22:07] <TJ-> MikeRL: hmm, so only ata1 is found (1.8TB) - ata2-ata4 are all showing link down. How many devices are connected and are they on SATA connections?
[22:08] <MikeRL> TJ-, 3 devices internally connected and one is a regular SSD. 2 are NVMe SSDs using RAID0. Reg SSD is using SATA I think.
[22:09] <TJ-> MikeRL: the NVMEs are in the M.2 sockets (looking at the mothernoard manual right now) ?
[22:09] <MikeRL> Yes the M2 sockets.
[22:10] <MikeRL> My theory is it's impossible to fix this from a live usb that's not an alt installer. But there has to be something that can be done to save that data. I made backups.
[22:11] <sorta_noob> I found instructions about blacklisting radeon by creating /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and adding the line "blacklist radeon", however after rebooting and trying to login it still fails the same way. The journal still shows all the radeon errors. I'm guessing that something's wrong with my blacklist?
[22:11] <MikeRL> Does anyone know why the regular Live install won't pick up RAID arrays at all? It seems weird.
[22:12] <TJ-> MikeRL: it's Intel RST. We have a wiki article about it. It's only an overview but gives some context. https://help.ubuntu.com/rst/index.html
[22:12] <TJ-> MikeRL: ANYthing is possible from the Live env
[22:12] <apb1963> TJ-, Peace, freedom & good will towards men? :D
[22:14] <sorta_noob> OK, it just got weirder. I went ahead and tried "startx" from console... and it started... looking at initial setup from first login.  But I can't start an xsession from the login screen....
[22:17] <AlexPortable> how do I expose different ports in audio to be used at the same time by applications? right now i can only select 'built-in analog stereo', but not which port (3.5mm or spdif)
[22:17] <MikeRL> Would just switching back to SATA make any difference? I planned on using the two NVMe SSDs for booting Ubuntu and 10. The other SSD was for media storage.
[22:17] <sarnold> AlexPortable: the pavucontrol application usually makes theses kinds of questions easy
[22:18] <sarnold> MikeRL: probably it'd be way easier, almost no one uses the motherboard-based 'fake raid things
[22:18] <TJ-> MikeRL: AHCI mode would be preferred. It does look like the Intel RST on that mobo isn't exposed to the kernel - I'm still digging though
[22:19] <TJ-> FakeRAID is only useful in dual-boot scenarios to share the storage easily
[22:19] <MikeRL> So not much of use.
[22:19] <MikeRL> Last time I listen to the BIOS warning.
[22:19] <MikeRL> Was about it being slower.
[22:20] <AlexPortable> sarnold: no, it's not being listed there, since it's a sink with multiple ports, and pavu only lists sinks
[22:22] <TJ-> MikeRL: I'm reading a recent arch-linux forum thread with a similar mobo, and the person there found that NVME Intel RST didn't show up to Linux, but via SATA did
[22:22] <MikeRL> TJ-, do you have a link?
[22:23] <sarnold> AlexPortable: ahhhhhhh
[22:23] <TJ-> MikeRL: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=248588
[22:23] <MikeRL> Good news is the backups I made were made before messing with this and made today.
[22:25] <TJ-> MikeRL: I've found alead, lets check some things. " pastebinit <( lsmod | grep rst; modinfo intel-rst ) "
[22:25] <MikeRL> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hnTPz26bB2/
[22:26] <TJ-> MikeRL: so it wasn't loaded. Let's do that. "sudo modprobe intel-rst" then show me "pastebinit <( journalctl -k -n 50 ) "
[22:27] <MikeRL> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vb93bpxgWG/
[22:28] <sorta_noob> After some research and playing around, here is my current state: Fresh wiped disk, install 21.04 from DVD, install goes fine, after install dvd removed and boots from hdd fine. From login screen, logging in just causes the screen to flash a few times then return to login screen. From console tty2, I can login. Found no .xsession-errors file. Found errors about radeon, weyland, and gnome-session. Tried to blacklist radeon. Didn'
[22:28] <sorta_noob> t help. However, startx from tty2 starts the xsession just fine. Suggestions for how to proceed?
[22:30] <TJ-> MikeRL: does this confirm the module is loaded? "lsmod | grep rst"
[22:30] <TJ-> MikeRL: there was nothing to show it loaded in the kernel log, but some modules are silent
[22:31] <MikeRL> it outputs "intel_rst              16384  0"
[22:31] <haijuno> cool
[22:31] <MikeRL> So it's loaded.
[22:32] <MikeRL> I think.
[22:32] <MikeRL> Unless the 0 means no.
[22:32] <TJ-> MikeRL: good! now lets try to poke around. " pastebinit <( sudo mdadm --detail-platform ) "
[22:33] <TJ-> MikeRL: '0' means zero handles/references taken (each user increments that count. Module can't be unloaded unless that is 0)
[22:34] <MikeRL> So then it's still not loaded.
[22:34] <MikeRL> Why?
[22:34] <TJ-> it is loaded, but nothing is currently using it
[22:34] <MikeRL> ok.
[22:35] <TJ-> did the mdadm command return anything?
[22:35] <MikeRL> Yeah what was in quotations "intel_rst 16384 0"
[22:35] <TJ-> MikeRL: no, the next one!
[22:35] <TJ-> MikeRL: good! now lets try to poke around. " pastebinit <( sudo mdadm --detail-platform ) "
[22:36] <MikeRL> Dang sorry didn't look. )-:
[22:36] <MikeRL> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gyjKW6BZ99/
[22:37] <TJ-> MikeRL: hmmm, what are the sizes of each of the devices ?
[22:38] <MikeRL> Each SSD is 2TB in size.
[22:38] <MikeRL> Only one shows up now.
[22:38] <MikeRL> The one not using RAID ofc.
[22:38] <TJ-> MikeRL: also, please show me " pastebinit <( sudo lspci -vvvnnk ) "
[22:38] <MikeRL> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wSmkxFf5hb/
[22:39] <TJ-> MikeRL: mdadm found only the SATA controller. I suspect it doesn't scan NVME controllers so the lspci report will help determine if the controllers are seen at least
[22:40] <TJ-> MikeRL: this is the one mdadm found "00:17.0 RAID bus controller [0104]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:06d6]"
[22:41] <MikeRL> So what to do? Is this fixable? I don't wanna be rude but I gotta make dinner soon and get ready for work.
[22:41] <MikeRL> If the thing is too big of a headache, I can always go back to SATA.
[22:42] <MikeRL> I do thank you for the help regardless.
[22:43] <TJ-> MikeRL: no sign of NVME devices - they'd have class [0108] - I suspect they are behind one of the two PCI bridges 00:1c.0 or 00:1c.4 - most likely the first since its resources show as [disabled]
[22:44] <MikeRL> They shown up in GUI programs before the fake RAID switch.
[22:44] <TJ-> MikeRL: let's look at the tree of devices "pastebinit <( lspci -tvvnn ) "
[22:45] <MikeRL> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3ZhCksfxCq/
[22:46] <sorta_noob> Thanks TJ- AlexPortable and sarnold for your responses. I'm not finding anything that's moving me towards making this run, so I'm gonna give Mint a go next. That really saddens me, I was looking forward to giving 21.04 a go. I guess I'll just have to update this desktop finally (from 19.04) to get that experience...
[22:46] <TJ-> MikeRL: I bet they're on that disabled bus [02] on the 1c.0 bridge
[22:47] <AlexPortable> sorta_noob: have you tried installing another desktop environment?
[22:47] <MikeRL> Why is the bus disabled?
[22:48] <MikeRL> Any way to enable?
[22:48] <TJ-> MikeRL: Now, there is a slight chance a kernel option may help. Linux uses what ACPI tells it about bridges, and it may be the BIOS change doesn't update what ACPI reports. There's an option you can add that tells Linux to ignore ACPI and probe hard. "PCI: Using host bridge windows from ACPI; if necessary, use "pci=nocrs" and report a bug"
[22:48] <TJ-> MikeRL: are you familiar with manually adding a kernel command-line option at boot-time?
[22:49] <MikeRL> How do I do that? Hover over a grub entry and press e?
[22:49] <sorta_noob> AlexPortable no, I didn't. Got a suggestion in that regard? I've always just used the Ubuntu defaults (gnome or Unity, or whatever). I used xfce and a few others in other distros, but never tried changing Ubuntu's defaults.
[22:49] <AlexPortable> i'm not sure which is light enough to run, but you might be able to try xfce or lxde
[22:49] <TJ-> MikeRL: yes, then navigate down to the line starting "linux ..." and add " pci=nocrs " and then press Ctrl+X to boot with that change
[22:50] <AlexPortable> switch to ctrl+alt+f1 (i think), login into terminal and install the desired desktop environment
[22:50] <AlexPortable> then switch to it with the right bottom button when you login
[22:50] <TJ-> MikeRL: this is a long shot but it /may/ work (but Intel don't really want to support RST on Linux)
[22:51] <sorta_noob> AlexPortable It does load an xsession from tty2 (using "startx"), just not from login.
[22:52] <MikeRL> WIll try. Have to exit and reenter on phone.
[22:54] <sorta_noob> AlexPortable I'm installing xfce by installing the metapackage, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" any expected config I'm going to need to do after the install finishes?
[22:55] <AlexPortable> not sure
[22:55] <MikeRL> Sadly the command didn't work. I'll reformat as SATA.
[22:56] <TJ-> MikeRL: Good plan. Some good info on why, here https://community.intel.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives/Intel-Rapid-Storage-Tech-and-RAIDing-PCIe-NVMe-SSD-cards/td-p/344606
[23:00] <TJ-> MikeRL: another here that MAY make it work. It gives options to set in BIOS. My eyes are drawn to "M.2 Slot X RST PCIe Storage Remapping" https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-NUCs/Why-can-t-Intel-RST-see-either-NVMe-drive-quot-No-disks/td-p/452314
[23:01] <sorta_noob> AlexPortable after installing xfce4, the DE switching button described earlier appears on the login screen. 2 choices, the already selected "ubuntu" and "ubuntu on xorg". Switched to "ubuntu on xorg" and tried logging in. Same result, a return to login screen. Possible issue was already running xsession on tty2, so I rebooted and am about to try again.
[23:04] <sorta_noob> Still fails, the de swap button not there. Found possible issue, need "xubuntu-desktop". Installing that now.
[23:06] <sorta_noob> xubuntu-desktop install made me choose between lightdm and gdm3. Chose to switch to lightdm in case it's about gdm3.
[23:13] <TJ-> MikeRL: Linux patch-set here to enable it, refused by maintainers, but some very good explanations as to what a mess Intel RST on NVMe is. https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20190620061038.GA20564@lst.de/T/
[23:15] <sorta_noob> AlexPortable well, I wasn't planning on Xfce, but xfce just worked. I'm gonna give this a go for a while and see how I like it. Been a long time since I used xfce....
[23:16] <sorta_noob> I wonder why gnome/weyland/unity or whatever Ubuntu 21.04 is using by default is failing....
[23:19] <AlexPortable> no idea, but you can at least diagnose it a bit better now
[23:20] <sorta_noob> Yeah. Now I'm gonna work on the radeon stuff. Maybe try fglrx or that new amd driver.
[23:22] <AlexPortable> How do I expose different ports in audio to be used at the same time by applications? right now i can only select 'built-in analog stereo', but not which port (3.5mm or spdif)?
[23:23] <sarnold> AlexPortable: oh man still no luck? :( there's folks in #lau who may have ideas
[23:23] <sorta_noob> Well, ubuntu's proprietary graphics driver installer doesn't think I'm elligible for fglrx, I don't think I want to try and force it in manually.
[23:23] <AlexPortable> sarnold: will try there thanks
[23:27] <TJ-> AlexPortable: have you experimented with "pactl --set-sink-port ..." ?
[23:27] <AlexPortable> TJ-: yes, that sets it, but doesn't allow both ports to be seen by applications like skype
[23:28] <TJ-> AlexPortable: does the internal wiring allow multiple ports from one codec/sink ?
[23:28] <AlexPortable> on windows it does, so I think yes
[23:29] <TJ-> AlexPortable: I'd expect, if it is possible, you'd have to do some pretty low-level (hardware pin control, below ALSA) changes
[23:29] <AlexPortable> where would I change that?
[23:34] <TJ-> AlexPortable: it'd me a kernel thing. Possibly not the way, but generally that is how the internals of the devices is programmed
[23:35] <AlexPortable> I just tested, I can create two new sinks in the config file to split them up, but the audio quality is lower and very quiet
[23:39] <TJ-> Did you do something like this? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/401492/how-to-output-unique-audio-to-multiple-ports-profiles-of-a-pulseaudio-card
[23:47] <kevr> I've got this ~/.config/mimeapps.list, somehow generated by some applications: http://sprunge.us/DfwQAY
[23:47] <kevr> Even though it says pdf should be launched with firefox.desktop, it keeps using evince to do so.
[23:48] <kevr> i'm a bit confused.
[23:48] <kevr> ideas?
[23:49] <kevr> OK, well. I should have probably dabbled a bit more before asking. I noticed in that file it set it up as "Added Associations," I was thinking... if somewhere else a default was set, perhaps that is somehow overriding the added association
[23:50] <kevr> so i took the [Added Associations] and just dumped them into the [Default Applications] section instead.
[23:50] <kevr> Fixed it.
[23:50] <kevr> I wonder how this got broken in the first place, though. I did not change this file manually until now.
[23:51] <kevr> Seems after I installed evince, something happened which caused it to be used as default for pdfs