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zxm-pi_hi de hi11:24
daftykins\o/12:27
daftykinsanother rainy day here on the rock12:27
zxm-pi_rain predicted for later. sunny atm12:31
daftykinssun in Ireland!?12:33
zxm-pi_it's a trap trying to lure people outside12:35
daftykins:D12:44
zxm-pi_just look for the clouds with fake mustache and glasses13:03
daftykinsstill pondering the best way to go about checking if a client's 20+ year old category 5 cabling can be repurposed to handle PoE WiFi APs13:05
MattJConnect, if no smoke alarms sound within 5 minutes, you're good13:06
daftykins:D13:06
MattJI think regulations suggest 15 minutes, but pft13:06
zxm-pi_https://community.fs.com/blog/how-to-choose-cables-for-power-over-ethernet.html see if they are a match?13:07
MattJA couple of years ago I drilled a hole into a door frame13:07
MattJThen all the lights went out13:07
zxm-pi_i once turned on a pc and blew out power for whole industrial estate. a lot of magic smoke that day13:08
MattJTurns out the door frame was hollow, and there was a mains cable running inside it13:08
daftykinswowzer13:08
MattJElectrician couldn't come right away, but resetting the RCD brought everything back13:09
zxm-pi_the wowzer part was that my face was pressed against the power supply vents as i put pcs on desk backwards as i needed access to all the cables at back and was reaching around to front of pc to turn it on at the time13:09
MattJI had a guilt about the damaged cable, so eventually called someone in. A lot of insulation tape later and it was declared safe *shrug* :)13:10
zxm-pi_i finished that day with zero adrenaline in reserve :-P13:11
daftykins:D13:11
zxm-pi_managed to fall of seat and roll under desk and pull oak stool over head before it exploded.13:12
daftykinscan't really glean anything new from the link unfortunately, will just have to source some gear to test with13:14
zxm-pi_i think one takeaway from what i can see is that copper is betterer :-)13:15
diddledanfor PoE, I would surmise that copper be preferable to fibre :-p13:16
daftykinsshort of slicing into an existing cable and trying to see if it's copper coated aluminium though... assuming you can even see it visibly... i dunno13:16
zxm-pi_there was a time when copper was too expensive for wiring so they used aluminium iirc. old cables of the sort are sub par13:16
diddledanrip it all out and start again ;-p13:17
zxm-pi_someone somewhere has devised a simple test for this. probably an electrician13:17
daftykinshehe, well it's a huge house with all this in-situ to run their old legacy phone system, i can just pinch use of the cabling to run other things - not gonna get replaced if it isn't up to it, i'd just have to move to PoE injectors if things failed13:18
daftykinsno idea of even the route they take throughout in order to guess the length of runs13:19
daftykinsdiddledan: oh hi there! i was gonna link you up to a zipped copy of the site in case any further edits get made, i managed to spot a .php on the wrong page name in the last and fixed 'er up for the one i popped under /test2/ \o/13:19
zxm-pi_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf7TJfn82lU aluminium v copper cat 513:20
* daftykins glances13:20
diddledanmy brother's BT line is CCA13:20
daftykins"i'm a youtuber, i have a really irritating intro and everything"13:20
diddledan"simply set fire to it"13:22
daftykinsthis is advice i can get behind13:22
zxm-pi_old aluminium cable oxidises and will have bit rot so drop packets13:23
zxm-pi_that's a start that's non destructive13:23
diddledanI hate rotten bits13:23
daftykinsLondon BT engineer i spoke to mentioned he lived on a CCA / whole aluminium street13:25
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diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znoAHsCzRV821:22
daftykinsa pal's wife is a medical translator21:24
daftykinsi think i just found out how she gets paid, the money just enters her body21:24
daftykins;)21:43

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