[11:24] <zxm-pi_> hi de hi
[12:27] <daftykins> \o/
[12:27] <daftykins> another rainy day here on the rock
[12:31] <zxm-pi_> rain predicted for later. sunny atm
[12:33] <daftykins> sun in Ireland!?
[12:35] <zxm-pi_> it's a trap trying to lure people outside
[12:44] <daftykins> :D
[13:03] <zxm-pi_> just look for the clouds with fake mustache and glasses
[13:05] <daftykins> still pondering the best way to go about checking if a client's 20+ year old category 5 cabling can be repurposed to handle PoE WiFi APs
[13:06] <MattJ> Connect, if no smoke alarms sound within 5 minutes, you're good
[13:06] <daftykins> :D
[13:06] <MattJ> I think regulations suggest 15 minutes, but pft
[13:07] <zxm-pi_> https://community.fs.com/blog/how-to-choose-cables-for-power-over-ethernet.html see if they are a match?
[13:07] <MattJ> A couple of years ago I drilled a hole into a door frame
[13:07] <MattJ> Then all the lights went out
[13:08] <zxm-pi_> i once turned on a pc and blew out power for whole industrial estate. a lot of magic smoke that day
[13:08] <MattJ> Turns out the door frame was hollow, and there was a mains cable running inside it
[13:08] <daftykins> wowzer
[13:09] <MattJ> Electrician couldn't come right away, but resetting the RCD brought everything back
[13:09] <zxm-pi_> the wowzer part was that my face was pressed against the power supply vents as i put pcs on desk backwards as i needed access to all the cables at back and was reaching around to front of pc to turn it on at the time
[13:10] <MattJ> I had a guilt about the damaged cable, so eventually called someone in. A lot of insulation tape later and it was declared safe *shrug* :)
[13:11] <zxm-pi_> i finished that day with zero adrenaline in reserve :-P
[13:11] <daftykins> :D
[13:12] <zxm-pi_> managed to fall of seat and roll under desk and pull oak stool over head before it exploded.
[13:14] <daftykins> can't really glean anything new from the link unfortunately, will just have to source some gear to test with
[13:15] <zxm-pi_> i think one takeaway from what i can see is that copper is betterer :-)
[13:16] <diddledan> for PoE, I would surmise that copper be preferable to fibre :-p
[13:16] <daftykins> short of slicing into an existing cable and trying to see if it's copper coated aluminium though... assuming you can even see it visibly... i dunno
[13:16] <zxm-pi_> there was a time when copper was too expensive for wiring so they used aluminium iirc. old cables of the sort are sub par
[13:17] <diddledan> rip it all out and start again ;-p
[13:17] <zxm-pi_> someone somewhere has devised a simple test for this. probably an electrician
[13:18] <daftykins> hehe, well it's a huge house with all this in-situ to run their old legacy phone system, i can just pinch use of the cabling to run other things - not gonna get replaced if it isn't up to it, i'd just have to move to PoE injectors if things failed
[13:19] <daftykins> no idea of even the route they take throughout in order to guess the length of runs
[13:19] <daftykins> diddledan: oh hi there! i was gonna link you up to a zipped copy of the site in case any further edits get made, i managed to spot a .php on the wrong page name in the last and fixed 'er up for the one i popped under /test2/ \o/
[13:20] <zxm-pi_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf7TJfn82lU aluminium v copper cat 5
[13:20]  * daftykins glances
[13:20] <diddledan> my brother's BT line is CCA
[13:20] <daftykins> "i'm a youtuber, i have a really irritating intro and everything"
[13:22] <diddledan> "simply set fire to it"
[13:22] <daftykins> this is advice i can get behind
[13:23] <zxm-pi_> old aluminium cable oxidises and will have bit rot so drop packets
[13:23] <zxm-pi_> that's a start that's non destructive
[13:23] <diddledan> I hate rotten bits
[13:25] <daftykins> London BT engineer i spoke to mentioned he lived on a CCA / whole aluminium street
[21:22] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znoAHsCzRV8
[21:24] <daftykins> a pal's wife is a medical translator
[21:24] <daftykins> i think i just found out how she gets paid, the money just enters her body
[21:43] <daftykins> ;)