[00:02] <wyoung> oehman: I am
[00:29] <isapgswell> why not ubuntu software uses swap?
[00:29] <isapgswell> here is too slow when click on category
[00:32] <isapgswell> loading image apps and description is too slow
[00:32] <sarnold> do you have spinning metal, ssd, or nvme drives?
[00:34] <isapgswell> sarnold m2 ssd
[00:35] <isapgswell> sarnold any hint?
[00:38] <tomreyn> isapgswell: how much ram does this system have, which ubuntu release and desktop variant (default = gnome3) are you running?
[00:39] <tomreyn> what amkes you say that the system does not use swap?
[00:40] <tomreyn> oh you're saying that the "ubuntu software" application does not repond to user input as swiftly as you expect.
[00:40] <tomreyn> that's probably not realted to swapping,t hough
[00:42] <isapgswell> tomreyn yes, ubuntu software do not respond to user input as swiftly as i expect
[00:42] <isapgswell> tomreyn too slow after i click on category for example
[00:43] <isapgswell> tomreyn 32GB ram, ubuntu 20.04.2 gnome shell
[00:45] <isapgswell> tomreyn 240Mbps link connection
[00:45] <tomreyn> isapgswell: i have very little experience with this software, can't really comment. if you can get used to it, working with "apt" (and "snap", if you want) in a terminal can be a lot faster.
[00:46] <isapgswell> tomreyn yes
[00:46] <tomreyn> i think "ubuntu software" is a snap itself, though, which could have an impact on how fast it feels.
[00:47] <sarnold> is it? if so that's probably related
[00:47] <isapgswell> tomreyn i think you're right. in my opinion for the begginner users it's relevant
[00:48] <isapgswell> tomrey recent users dont care about command line apt snap commands
[00:49] <isapgswell> tomreyn and ubuntu's purpose is user friendly
[00:50] <tomreyn> isapgswell: i'm not an ubuntu developer, there's no use in discussing this with me. there's #ubuntu-discuss for discussions
[00:51] <tomreyn> (but don't expect discussions had there to carry into ubuntu development either)
[00:53] <isapgswell> tomreyn ok
[02:02] <bumblefuzz> so, I just set up a fresh ubuntu linode
[02:02] <bumblefuzz> first admin task was to enable the firewall
[02:03] <bumblefuzz> yet, remotely, nmap shows port 53 open
[02:03] <bumblefuzz> and using dig, the linode returns DNS requests
[02:03] <bumblefuzz> how is port 53 open on a fresh ubuntu install with ufw enabled and no other changes?
[02:08] <sarnold> what server was installed on it to answer?
[02:09] <bumblefuzz> not sure I understand your phrasing
[02:09] <bumblefuzz> the remote server was ubuntu 20.04
[02:09] <bumblefuzz> the local machine is also ubuntu
[02:11] <tomreyn> chances are this is a multi chain setup
[02:11] <tomreyn> i.e. docker or similar
[02:12] <bumblefuzz> ok but what does that mean in terms of port 53?
[02:12] <tomreyn> i think ufw only blocks on the INPUT chain
[02:12] <tomreyn> + output if you change its policy on that
[02:13] <sarnold> bumblefuzz: there's something like a dozen different DNS servers for authoritative, recursive, forwarders, stub, etc. I'm curious which one was on the system and answering queries
[02:13] <bumblefuzz> but input on port 53 is what should be blocked by UFW...unless I open it
[02:13] <tomreyn> i.e. if you have forward chains, or yet more separate chains, then your rules take no effect
[02:13] <tomreyn> ...on those
[02:13] <bumblefuzz> `netstat -nlp | grep 53` only shows systemd
[02:14] <bumblefuzz> this is a stock ubuntu linode with ufw enabled, nothing else
[02:14] <bumblefuzz> port 53 shouldn't be open
[02:14] <bumblefuzz> and it's not only open, it's responding to DNS requests
[02:14] <tomreyn> can you show    sudo iptables -L
[02:16] <tomreyn> and tell us how you're testing
[02:17] <bumblefuzz> nmap remote_ip
[02:17] <bumblefuzz> and dig @remote_ip www.somesite.com
[02:17] <bumblefuzz> I can't copy the pastebinit links
[02:17] <bumblefuzz> dunno how to get this over to you guys
[02:18] <bumblefuzz> one sec... lemme get a VPN installed and ssh in
[02:22] <DumbLDoor> Hi! I have had multiple 21.04 system crashes with a browser that worked perfectly with 20.10
[02:22] <DumbLDoor> Gool Gorrilla, terrible Hippo !!
[02:25] <sarnold> DumbLDoor: omg I just now got your nickname..
[02:26] <bumblefuzz> @tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KrGH4ZdcRg/
[02:27] <amosbird_> sarnold: cool
[02:27] <sarnold> amosbird_: well, I talked with DumbLDoor for who knows how long a few days ago and never caught on.. heh
[02:30] <bumblefuzz> there's nothing here that indicates port 53 should be open
[02:31] <DumbLDoor> Sarnold: ?
[02:32] <DumbLDoor> !
[02:32] <DumbLDoor> Anyone else uses Palemoon browser?
[02:37] <tomreyn> bumblefuzz: i can't tell from this output, sorry.
[02:41] <bumblefuzz> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kMnzMZmj6C/
[02:41] <bumblefuzz> ss shows port 53 only listening on localhost
[02:41] <bumblefuzz> so, why is it accessible from the internet
[02:41] <bumblefuzz> ?
[02:42] <bumblefuzz> ufw shows it's closed
[02:42] <tomreyn> ipv6?
[02:42] <bumblefuzz> how can I check that?
[02:42] <tomreyn> specify the ipv6 address rather than the ipv4 address (or FQDN) when testing
[02:42] <bumblefuzz> and these addresses are 127.0.0.53
[02:42] <bumblefuzz> that's ipv4
[02:42] <bumblefuzz> yeah, it doesn't have an ipv6 address
[02:43] <bumblefuzz> linode only gives of an ipv4
[02:43] <bumblefuzz> gives me*
[02:43] <enyc> bumblefuzz: I thought linode are IPv6-enabled too...
[02:43] <enyc> bumblefuzz: check 'ip -6 addr' and 'ip -6 ro' ...
[02:44] <enyc> NB: ignore fe80: (link-local) addresses in the ip -6 addr  list
[02:45] <bumblefuzz> you're correct
[02:45] <tomreyn> about your ss output: 127.0.0.53 is the local address, but it shows the service does listen to connections from anywhere.
[02:45] <bumblefuzz> how do I disable ipv6 to check if that's it?
[02:46] <tomreyn> your nmap output should actually tell the ip address that it connected to
[02:46] <tomreyn> well, "connect" is the wrong term, it's not tcp. the port it sent traffic to and received a response from.
[02:49] <tomreyn> you can choose not to configure a routable ipv6 address on the wan interface, that should suffice, no need to diable ipv6 support in general.
[02:50] <bumblefuzz> that step is done for me
[02:50] <bumblefuzz> I can only act retroactively on ipv6
[03:00] <bumblefuzz> yeah, ipv6 is disabled and port 53 is still wide open and accepting DNS requests
[03:14] <bumblefuzz> I can't find any reason this should be accepting port 53 traffic
[03:27] <rxdeath> weird happenings...i installed 2 ubuntu 20.04 vms at the same time, one the alias for ll works, one it does not.   i have made 0 changes to the file.  any reason why this could be happening?
[03:33] <rxdeath> if re source bashrc or do an alias in the commandline it works
[03:33] <rxdeath> but as soon as i log out and back in again, it doesnot work anymore
[03:34] <rxdeath> i also notice the colors don't work until i after i resource as well
[03:38] <Intelo> leftyfb: I want to trace first that what went wrong?
[06:35] <bittin> morning
[06:52] <furycd001> HI Guys.. I was on here yesterday morning with the problem of my laptop failing to boot to the desktop. After spending a while trying to boot back into my desktop I gave up & opted for a reinstall. I reinstalled xubuntu 20.04.2 but again kept getting stuck at the same place & couldn't access the desktop. Reinstalled yet again using xubuntu 18.04.5 & now I can access the desktop & do a bunch of things (all-be-it with a go
[06:52] <furycd001> en tearing).
[06:52] <furycd001> My problem now is that whenever I install nvidia drivers my laptop will fail to boot or will boot, but will lock up at lightdm. Sometimes It'll let me login to the desktop & then decide to lockup several seconds later.
[06:52] <furycd001> I booted into recovery mode & ran "sudo apt-get remove --purge '^nvidia-.*'" to remove all nvidia drivers & then rebooted using noveau drivers. To install drivers I go to Settings >> Additional Drivers >> http://i.imgur.com/HkgwelX.png
[06:52] <furycd001> Could someone please help me becuase I'm not that great when it comes to debugging or fixing things & I would love to get my graphics card working again.
[06:59] <ducasse> furycd001: if you don't get a response, try a little later as there are few people here now. i'm no guru on nvidia drivers, so don't think i can help
[07:00] <furycd001> Ok thank you for the heads up. I don't actually have a lot of time later today so I might have to wait until monday :/
[07:02] <ducasse> furycd001: what does 'ubuntu-drivers list' say?
[07:04] <furycd001> It shows this >> https://termbin.com/z9u5
[07:06] <ducasse> do you remember which version you installed previously?
[07:06] <ducasse> EriC^^: you got any ideas?
[07:07] <furycd001> I tried the 460 because it has tested beside it & I also tried 390....
[07:07] <ducasse> you could try a later version from the graphics drivers ppa
[07:07] <furycd001> the 390 would slowly let me boot to the desktop but would crash like 20seconds later. The 460 would just lock up on boot or at lightdm....
[07:08] <EriC^^> no idea here ducasse
[07:08] <furycd001> Hmmm do you think a driver from ppa would work ??
[07:08] <EriC^^> what does 'sudo ubuntu-drivers devices' show for recommended driver?
[07:08] <ducasse> maybe, could be worth a shot
[07:09] <furycd001> it shows this >> https://termbin.com/d65k
[07:10] <ducasse> does nouveau work?
[07:11] <furycd001> Yes I'm currently booted to the desktop using nouveau.
[07:11] <furycd001> There's a ton of screen tearing though when moving windows about or watching videos.
[07:12] <furycd001> When I try a nvidia driver & it doesn't work I boot into recovery mode & run "sudo apt-get remove --purge '^nvidia-.*" using the root console....
[07:17] <ducasse> i think i'd try the ppa
[07:17] <furycd001> Ok I'll give that a try and see what happens. Do you have a link for the ppa ??
[07:18] <ducasse> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[07:18] <furycd001> Thank you :)
[07:19] <ducasse> yw, i just hope it helps.
[07:19] <furycd001> I hope so too
[07:23] <ducasse> furycd001: let us know how it goes
[07:24] <furycd001> Yes I will be straight back here once I get back to my desktop....
[07:45] <furycd001> Ok so I installed the latest driver from the ppa which is 465 & rebooted twice to a black screen with a solid cursor in the top left of the screen. Back on nouveau again to access the desktop....
[07:47] <ducasse> well, that sucks
[07:47] <furycd001> Yep ;(
[07:48] <furycd001> On monday I done a fresh 20.04.5 install. Worked fine until yesterday morning whenever my system just randomly locked up. Couldn't get 20.04
[07:48] <furycd001> to install so I went with 18.04.5
[07:49] <Diagon> Trying to figure out mkfs.f2fs options for 20.04.  fsfs.h refers to compression, but I get an error when I try to make the FS with '-O compression'
[07:49] <furycd001> I'm kinda thinking my graphics card might be faulty ??
[07:50] <Diagon> Headers for FSFS are in: /usr/src/linux-hwe-5.8-headers-5.8.0-53/include/trace/events/f2fs.h
[07:52] <Diagon> 'man mkfs.f2fs' merely says, "specify a feature list in order f2fs filesystem will supports.  e.g "encry-pt" and so on."  [sic]
[07:52] <Diagon> 'man mount' has no reference to f2fs
[07:53] <Diagon> Everywhere I look, f2fs in 5.8 kernel is supposed to have lzo, lz4, zstd and lzo-rle
[07:58] <Diagon> Every way I try, I get "Error: Wrong features"
[08:11] <huwjr> hey i recently moved from mac to ubuntu as my daily driver.  i'm trying to figure out how i can set it up so i get an 'are you sure' prompt when i use my ssh key that's been added with: ssh-add -c
[08:13] <furycd001> huwjr: I've never used ssh before, but you could probably write a simple bash script that uses the read command. Here's an example >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/226703/how-do-i-prompt-for-yes-no-cancel-input-in-a-linux-shell-script ....
[08:13] <Diagon> I think you could just do zenity --question "Sure?" && ssh <host>
[08:17] <huwjr> it's a built in ssh feature that i just need the prompt from
[08:18] <huwjr> i need it to happen passively when something tries to use my key, not just when i actively run a command
[08:19] <furycd001> Ahhh right ok gotcha....
[08:20] <Diagon> Then you want inotify or incron or somesuch to be triggered when the key file is accessed.
[08:26] <huwjr> it's not a file when it's added to the agent, it's either a random socket file or in ram (i'm not actually sure tbh)
[08:26] <Diagon> Ah.  I.c.
[08:28] <huwjr> the point is it allows me to type my long password once and then control whether it's usable with a yes/no answer
[08:41] <agvantibo> Hello. I'm experiencing the same problem after the upgrade too: some dock icons will stay on the dock after closing the window, and will not vanish, despite not being in Favourites. Some windows also won't show up in the Dock. I am running 21.04 (Hirsute) vanilla Ubuntu now, but the problem persisted after upgrading.
[09:13] <isomari> greetings, what is the mc shortcut to go to line end? alt-b is for line beginning.
[09:15] <summonner> isomari, mc?
[09:15] <isomari> midnight commander
[09:55] <furycd001> Hey guys.. I finally made it to a desktop using nvidia drivers :)
[09:55] <furycd001> Ok so I removed the ppa & installed the standard tested nvidia-driver-460 & have been able to boot to my desktop using kernel 5.4.0-42-generic.
[09:56] <furycd001> I uninstalled kernel linux-image-5.4.0-73-generic using apt-get purge & I can now boot straight to my desktop without having to fiddle with grub.
[09:56] <furycd001> Screen tearing is still a thing though & I've tried to fix it using this post >> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2365449&p=13663158&viewfull=1#post13663158
[09:56] <furycd001> but.. I receive this error in my terminal....
[09:56] <furycd001> > cat: /sys/module/nvidia_drm/parameters/modeset: No such file or directory
[09:57] <furycd001> Any ideas :?
[10:17] <furycd001> brb....
[10:18] <torbjorn> I'm trying to map Super-right and Super-left to specific commands, but they don't seem to work. Under keyboard shortcuts there's nothing else that maps to these.
[10:19] <torbjorn> are there other places where these might be mapped to something? And how could I track what happens when I hit that keyboard combo?
[10:30]  * enyc meows
[10:31] <enyc> torbjorn: i'm not expret on that stutaino  but i would say -- ubuntu version and desktop type  may be significant info to include in your query
[10:31] <enyc> torbjorn: i'm wondering if, for example, keyboard layout has a 'super key' set at all, etc.
[10:45] <HaJones> I'm installing from source. when running ./config I get "package lua was not found in the pkg-config search path" what package do they mean. when I search ubuntu packages I get lua-ansicolor which is for printing to the consol and lua-apr for a language and others. which should I install?
[11:00] <torbjorn> enyc: I think I'm using Gnome 3, but I' not sure how to tell. I installed ubuntu without really making a concious choice on the matter. Also I have mapped the key with a windows logo on it to other shortcuts, which do work, using the label "Super" to set them up
[11:01] <torbjorn> I have the outline of a cat on my desktop, which stares at something to the left of my screen, and there's a left bar where running applications appear, and there's a top bar that has datetime in the middle, sys tray on the right, and "Activities" on the left corner
[11:03] <torbjorn> Where I would expect to see "Gnome Desktop" something.. something.. in programs (settings for example), I consistently see "Ubuntu Desktop" instead, but I'm pretty sure this is gnome
[11:04] <agvantibo> This is Focal Fossa (20.04)
[11:04] <agvantibo> And it most likely runs GNOME 3
[11:04] <torbjorn> would it vary for recent ubuntu releases?
[11:05] <agvantibo> Yes
[11:05] <agvantibo> Submit a screenshot of this https://i.imgur.com/wpSmoej.png
[11:05] <agvantibo> This is a tab in settings (gnome-control-center)
[11:06] <torbjorn> ah yes, there's the About I was looking for, thanks, just had to scroll below view, its gnome.
[11:07] <torbjorn> https://pasteboard.co/K1Qmqxg.png
[11:10] <agvantibo> Yes, it is GNOME 3
[11:10] <torbjorn> I come from Fedora, typically running other-than-gnome DE's , but the Super key is becoming less and less available there too, though I have been able to use Super-left, Super-right (and also Super-space), none of which have responded to me in gnome 3 (yet!)
[11:12] <agvantibo> So you are trying to remap Super+Left and Super+Right to do stuff? This is a WM builtin, so you would either have to work around it, or use X remappers.
[11:12] <torbjorn> what are they builtins for?
[11:12] <agvantibo> (They are normally bound to window tiling)
[11:13] <torbjorn> those are remappable though, in the same shortcut-setup interface
[11:13] <torbjorn> (I have remapped them to new, working, key comboes)
[11:16] <torbjorn> Super-space, which I didn't really ask about, but would also like, I had to clear in a dconf menu, it is setup to toggle input sources I think, or keyboard language in effect
[11:16] <luna__> Watching Igors snap talk at LAS 2021
[11:16] <luna__> however 6 minutes behind as i listened to #ubuntu-podcast
[11:18] <agvantibo> Aand you're mapping them at the same interface like this: https://i.imgur.com/WrCaq29.png
[11:19] <agvantibo> And you double-checked that you have disabled the original thingos
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> not here luna__
[11:20] <azidhaka> Hi, someone encountering this? ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'uaclient' in package ubuntu-advantage-tools while apt upgrading pretty standard 18.04
[11:20] <agvantibo> #ubuntu-discuss is probably the best place for this luna__
[11:22] <agvantibo> azidhaka, Where are you getting it exactly? after sudo apt upgrade?
[11:23] <azidhaka> agvantibo: yep
[11:23] <agvantibo> !info ubuntu-advantage-tools
[11:23] <azidhaka> cannot uninstall, reinstall or purge it due to this error
[11:25] <agvantibo> This is probably the post-DPKG script playing up
[11:25] <azidhaka> agvantibo: yes, looking at it, but it's quite long and it is unclear which python app is printing this
[11:26] <agvantibo> now, try sudo apt autoclean; sudo apt autoremove;
[11:26] <agvantibo> and post the output here
[11:27] <azidhaka> agvantibo: forget it, i'm stupid :) i had a python venv activated while upgrading :D
[11:27] <Liowenex> I am genuinely concerned that the wallpaper in 21.04 looks like testicles
[11:27] <agvantibo> Hope you've solved it now
[11:27] <azidhaka> agvantibo: yes, thank you
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> please only support issues here Liowenex
[11:27] <Nichi> i also see balls, but most people been saying it looks like hairy milkers, am i gay
[11:28] <Liowenex> I'm glad I am not the only one
[11:28] <agvantibo>  Liowenex #ubuntu-discuss exists and ubuntu-offtopic does so too
[11:28] <agvantibo> Nichi same
[11:28] <Nichi> sorry :-D
[11:29] <agvantibo> No offense taken, but some people may get... Uncomfortable
[11:34] <kubast2> What's the safe way to extract a rootfs without running tar as root?; what's the reverse fakeroot?
[11:34] <kubast2> I do know that I need to be vary about setuid, so I would mount said rootfs as noexec
[11:35] <kubast2> something that prevents you from writting to "/"(so giving tar capabilities isn't the answer)
[11:41] <torbjorn> agvantibo: yes, like so. Super-left and -right at least aren't doing what they used to. They seem to do nothing now, even with activated new commands to run
[11:41] <torbjorn> ah I should try actions that I know work.
[11:45] <torbjorn> oh shit that works. it was my action that was at fault, not gnome's ability to map it.
[11:46] <torbjorn> which leads to the next question.. how do I make it run a perl script that is in my $PATH if I open a gnome-terminal?
[11:54] <torbjorn> where might errors from keyboard shortcuts be logged? there is no ~/.xsessionerrors
[12:03] <torbjorn> ~/perl5/bin isn't in $PATH. error was all mine from the get go, thanks for help
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:26] <jumperpin> i just started a, "sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdLETTER bs=10M" on a 30G usb  3 on a 3.0 hub, got a 64 bit phenom and 16G ram ssd, how long is this likely to take (speculate a range please anyone)?
[12:27] <jumperpin> it wont ctrl+C (cancel) and i dont want to brick the usb, bt its been a while and forgot to pass "status=progress"
[12:31] <EriC^^> jumperpin: you can do "sudo pkill -USR1 ^dd" to get the progress
[12:31] <EriC^^> (from another terminal)
[12:33] <jumperpin> ;) ty it just finished then but much appreciated. most def need that command in my back pocket for rouge processes
[12:33] <EriC^^> ;)
[12:58] <Kelerion> Morning peeps.
[13:12] <pa> hi folks
[13:12] <pa> is qt5 packages maintained by canonical or by debian?
[13:17] <FurretUber> Hi, how would you connect to a Wi-Fi connection using a screen reader on Xfce? I'm not finding a way to reach the nm-applet icon
[13:25] <ghost2911> Hi. How to setup (where) sending email notifications for unattended-upgrades package on Ubuntu 18? mailx installed via s-nail package. Or how to test that it actually uses mailx to send...
[14:28] <remline> (A) Extract linux-source-5.11.0.tar.bz2 (B) cp /boot/config-5.11.0-17-generic .config (C) make prepare (D) diff /boot/config-5.11.0-17-generic .config (Result) CONFIG_PAHOLE_HAS_SPLIT_BTF and CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_BTF_MODULES are set in /boot/config-5.11.0-17-generic but not .config. Why?
[15:39] <nucc1> does anyone know where the conntrack information is located on ubuntu 20.04?
[15:40] <nucc1> there's no /proc/net/nf_conntrack on my device or /proc/net/ip_conntrack
[15:41] <tomreyn> nucc1: it's a module, is it loaded? lsmod | grep conntrack
[15:42] <nucc1> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JNyKGxKvWT/
[15:43] <nucc1> seems to be loaded. this is my router, so i imagine it would be broken if this module wasn't loaded
[15:45] <tomreyn> hmm, same here, on 5.4.0-72-generic
[15:45] <nucc1> i think the data goes somewhere else and perhaps nobody has remembered to document this... or i'm not looking hard enough :)
[15:46] <tomreyn> maybe you need to enable accounting
[15:47] <nucc1> i have just installed the package "conntrack", and it is able to find and display the info i want, so the data must be there
[15:47] <nucc1> i think i'll have to figure out a way to get the data from conntrack though.
[15:48] <nucc1> i'm trying to setup a scheme that would packet-sniff all the traffic for a host on my LAN as well as all the NATed traffic on the WAN port
[15:48] <nucc1> doesn't seem like there's an easy way to do this, so i'm looking at writing a script that would periodically check the conntrack table and run a new tcpdump instance for any new hosts that the LAN host connects to
[15:49] <nucc1> ultimate aim is to figure out why i'm getting packet loss on my otherwise clean network.
[15:50] <nucc1> i can't say for sure if the packets are getting dropped by QOS or not.
[15:50] <nucc1> I can't imagine that the QOS will drop packets in a way that results in the connection failing as a result of too many missed ACKs
[15:50] <tomreyn> you could check the source code. or, if this utility reads it from a FSO, strace should tell.
[15:51] <nucc1> yea, i need to git-clone it.
[15:51] <nucc1> sadly there's no tarball download like github does
[15:52] <nucc1> grrrr. i don't have Virt feature enabled on my CPU.... i need to reboot and get into bios.
[15:52] <nucc1> (sigh).
[16:17] <nucc1> looks like it uses https://netfilter.org/projects/libnetfilter_conntrack/index.html
[16:17] <nucc1> the /proc method is now legacy
[16:19] <nucc1> @tomreyn
[16:22] <Antoine_> Hello, can I install ubuntu 21.04 if I only have a 2 Gb USB stick?
[16:22] <Antoine_> I believe I'd need a <2Gb iso file but I don't know if there is any
[16:24] <nucc1> Antoine_: https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[16:24] <nucc1> the network installer might be feasible
[16:25] <apathor> hi. in what environment do apt postinstall scripts run? i have a postinst failure i think related to PATH containing /usr/local/bin
[16:27] <Antoine_> nucc1: Hmm, it's not as easy. I also have an external hard drive but I can't wipe it. Is it feasible in a partition of the hard drive?
[16:28] <parapan> hi all; I've updated from ubuntu server 18 to 20 .....now, the mysql is broken ....tried a lot of commands . . nothing is working . . ..
[16:48] <Sir_Burns> Ports open?
[16:49] <Sir_Burns> Can you login to sql server as root?
[16:49] <Sir_Burns> Is it running?
[16:49] <parapan> I dont think so ...
[16:50] <parapan> Job for mysql.service failed because the control process exited with error code.
[16:50] <parapan> See "systemctl status mysql.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[16:50] <donofrio> how do I tell netstat to only show parent processes not child ones when I'm doing "netstat -plant"?
[16:51] <Sir_Burns> @parapan https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42317139/job-for-mysqld-service-failed-see-systemctl-status-mysqld-service
[16:52] <mwillc> is it expected that an LTS Ubuntu point release; e.g. 18.04.2, not change to say 18.04.5 after running an apt upgrade against an up to date repo mirror? Does the contents of /etc/os-release ever change after the initial OS install?
[16:53] <parapan> Sir_Burns: went through some of the answers .....no luck ...
[16:53] <parapan> it seems my .pid and .sock files are missing ....
[16:54] <AlexPortable> Where can I get a flash .so? All websites I found tell me to install flashplugin-installer, which doesn't actually create any files
[16:57] <nucc1> Antoine_ i don't understand you. the network installer is small, but it requires that the machine have internet access during installation.
[16:57] <nucc1> so you should be able to flash it onto your usb stick and install it. The details of the installation don't depend on the installation media.
[16:58] <nucc1> does anyone know how to fix this impasse I have? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RZGzddHBjX/
[17:00] <jason234> Dear Ubuntu users, I would like to kindly ask, how is it possible to play the game Roblox under Linux, Ubuntu ?
[17:09] <TJ-> nucc1: possibly "sudo apt update  && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt --fix-broken install"
[17:10] <Antoine_> nucc1: Ah, I was reading the instructions there: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/netbooting-the-live-server-installer/14510
[17:10] <Antoine_> And there seemed to be many steps
[17:11] <Antoine_> If I can just flash the "mini.iso" image and boot normally, that's fine :)
[17:12] <nucc1> Antoine_ you don't need to netboot as far as I remember. just boot it like normal, and make sure the machine is connected to internet.
[17:12] <nucc1> TJ-: let me try those.
[17:12] <Antoine_> nucc1: Ok ok, great!
[17:12] <nucc1> Antoine_ https://www.answertopia.com/ubuntu/installing-ubuntu-with-the-network-installer/
[17:13] <nucc1> yea, netbooting is for people who need to install like 200 machines at once or something
[17:15] <nucc1> TJ-: i get error "E: Command line option --fix-broken-install is not understood in combination with the other options
[17:15] <nucc1> "
[17:20] <ioria> nucc1, not --fix-broken-install   but  --fix-broken instal
[17:21] <ioria> nucc1, sorry, not --fix-broken-install   but  --fix-broken instal   l
[17:30] <JustLandedOnMars> hi
[17:31] <JustLandedOnMars> I run "cfdisk /dev/sdb" and it says:
[17:31] <JustLandedOnMars> Select label type: gpt, dos, sgi, sun
[17:31] <JustLandedOnMars> so which type do I choose ?
[17:32] <JustLandedOnMars> I want to create 4 primary partitions with extfs on it
[17:34] <JustLandedOnMars> I just checked other disks I had, HDD and flash drive they have "dos" so I will use "dos" here too
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | JustLandedOnMars
[17:34] <JustLandedOnMars> right
[17:34] <JustLandedOnMars> I know how to partition
[17:35] <JustLandedOnMars> its just this time I run fresh "cfdisk" and it asked me to chose one of these types, that is first time
[17:35] <JustLandedOnMars> other than that I did partitioned before
[17:35] <JustLandedOnMars> yes, right, its not what I expected just link to external resource, but thanks anyway
[17:36] <JustLandedOnMars> I thought maybe some "human interaction"
[17:42] <donofrio> what switches would I need for lsof to list processes and ports bound to them but not child processes?
[17:44] <nucc1> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2sPq7RGnGy/    --- this was a pristine install of ubuntu server a month or so ago :)
[17:49] <tomreyn> JustLandedOnMars: you want either gpt or dos (AKA mbr). dos is the classic partition table, nowadays you may want to prefer gpt.
[17:51] <TJ-> nucc1: show us "pastebinit <( cat /etc/apt/sources.list{.d/*} ; lsb_release -a ; uname -a ) "
[17:54] <nucc1> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4f6ry5Swyq/
[17:55] <nucc1> nothing in my sources.list.d
[17:55] <nucc1> but i can share my sources.list if you want.
[17:55] <agvantibo> TJ-, this is like neofetch but with extra steps
[17:55] <TJ-> nucc1: that command I gave you would do that
[17:55] <tomreyn> TJ-: i think there's a comma missing
[17:55] <TJ-> tomreyn: there is?
[17:56] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ckDhfjyhJM/
[17:56] <TJ-> tomreyn: there is!
[17:56] <TJ-> tomreyn: good eye ... that's normally my job :)
[17:57] <tomreyn> TJ-: yes, you're normally better on that than i am :)
[17:58] <TJ-> tomreyn: tired eyes 28-hour stint!
[17:59] <tomreyn> ooof
[17:59] <TJ-> nucc1: OK, let's clear the error directly since it'll be much faster than trying to figure out WHY this has broken. "sudo apt install libc6-dev build-essential"
[18:01] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Xfcp6FMfZs/
[18:01] <TJ-> usually this occurs because an already-installed package conflicts with one being requested, or as in this case, is a dependency required by the package(s) being installed
[18:02] <TJ-> nucc1: you DID do "sudo apt update" and that did complete successfully fetching the most recent package lists?
[18:03] <nucc1> TJ-: sure I did: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zhYccq9t8R/
[18:05] <TJ-> nucc1: strange. Looking on a 20.04 system here, it upgraded all the libc6* packages on 21st April from 2.31-0ubuntu9.2 to 2.31-0ubuntu9.3
[18:06] <rfm> this looks like the problem where a bad libc6 version was installed and backed out.  if one happened to upgrade while the bad package was they got it
[18:06] <TJ-> nucc1: OK, one step further. "sudo apt install libc6 libc6-dev build-essential"
[18:06] <rfm> I have the bad 9.3 package (but the bug doesn't affect me, forget what it was)
[18:07] <TJ-> rfm: yes it does
[18:07] <nucc1> TJ-: still same complaint about libc6
[18:07] <TJ-> nucc1: hmmm, this is starting to annoy me. Warn your PC it's about to get a slap!
[18:08] <rfm> I think the thing to do here is downgrade libc6 to 2.31-0ubuntu9.2 (the current highest version in the repos)
[18:08] <nucc1> well, sadly, this is my router :)
[18:08] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rZcYFypJ3H/
[18:08] <TJ-> nucc1: "apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev"
[18:08] <TJ-> nucc1: pastebin please?
[18:09] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/drNRSnfbxw/
[18:10] <TJ-> nucc1: wooah! and ouch! /me goes to do some research
[18:11] <nucc1> thanks TJ- , hope my router is not fubar :)
[18:12] <TJ-> nucc1: I have libc6-dev 2.31-0ubuntu9.3 installed here BUT my policy shows only 9.2 available. I suspect this will be the bug rfm referred to and that package was tempirarily pulled from the archive
[18:12] <nucc1> yea, must be.
[18:12] <nucc1> my bad luck though, because i sometimes go weeks before i run updates :)
[18:13] <TJ-> Yes Deleted on 2021-05-03 by Iain Lane
[18:13] <TJ-> Causing crashes, saved in silo 4547, LP: #1926355
[18:13] <nucc1> so i won't have experienced the bug, cos i got no snaps
[18:13] <TJ-> Oh great - rest of the distro is broken because of snaps!
[18:13] <nucc1> tell me about it :)
[18:13] <TJ-> nucc1: OK, so 'lets get you the package manually
[18:14] <nucc1> i really wish packages.ubuntu.com had a search field :)
[18:15] <TJ-> nucc1: "pushd /tmp; wget https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4507-deletedppa/+build/21332538/+files/libc6-dev_2.31-0ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i libc6-dev_2.31-0ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb; sudo apt --fix-broken install; popd "
[18:17] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p5gkSKMJyW/
[18:17] <nucc1> i guess i should say "Y" ?
[18:20] <TJ-> hang on
[18:20] <nucc1> oops :p
[18:21] <TJ-> we need to fetch another package; I didn't check the dependency. No problem if you have though
[18:21] <nucc1> yea, i have
[18:21] <TJ-> nucc1: "wget https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4507-deletedppa/+build/21332538/+files/libc-dev-bin_2.31-0ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i libc-dev-bin_2.31-0ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb; sudo apt --fix-broken install"
[18:22] <TJ-> nucc1: actually hang on!
[18:22] <nucc1> awww :d
[18:22] <nucc1> no errors reported
[18:22] <TJ-> nucc1: Your last pastebin seems to show the first package was removed !! so we need to insert both first
[18:22] <nucc1> still have the dependency issue though
[18:23] <nucc1> okay
[18:23] <TJ-> nucc1: "sudo dpkg -i /tmp/libc6-dev_2.31-0ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb; sudo apt --fix-broken install"
[18:24] <TJ-> nucc1: in theory that show not now force a package removal/downgrade
[18:24] <TJ-> s/show/should
[18:24] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sN3SV9RSv5/
[18:24] <nucc1> looks fixed :)
[18:25] <nucc1> thanks a lot. i could never have figured this out :)
[18:25] <TJ-> thank %^&*&!
[18:25] <TJ-> nucc1: now you can bet to what it was you actually intended to do!
[18:26] <nucc1> fair point, but i think i'd have given up and planned for another clean install :p
[18:27] <nucc1> which is painful, because i haven't actually written scripts to deploy the router configuration... which is something i should do
[18:27] <nucc1> so the build is painstakingly manual
[18:28] <nucc1> right, what i set to do is its own challenge :)
[18:28] <nucc1> he he
[18:28] <nucc1> trying to figure out how to get conntrack information from a program using libnetfilter_conntrack :)
[18:29] <nucc1> the first example in their source tree i built isn't running :d
[18:29] <nucc1> the build-essential package was so i can compile the program directly where it's gonna run
[19:35] <bleb> does ubuntu have nonfree software in its repos by default?
[19:44] <rfm> bleb, depends on your defiiniton of non-free but there is some software with various restricted licenses in the "restricted" and "multiverse" sections.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories has some explanation
[19:55] <Antoine_> nucc1: Aaah ok I see. That's exactly what I need, thanks a lot!
[20:58] <bumblefuzz> so, I've suddenly lost all audio
[20:58] <bumblefuzz> I've made no changes
[20:58] <bumblefuzz> WTF?
[21:11] <dirgeable> hi, im on 21.04. is there a way, maybe with gnome tweaks, to have a program always start on all workspaces? thanks!
[21:35] <Walex> dirgeable: depends on the window manager/GNOME shell
[21:35] <Walex> dirgeable: perhaps have a look at "devilspie2", that can provide some enhancement.
[21:37] <Walex> dirgeable: but note that Xorg and Weston/Wayland are different.
[21:58] <cronopio> hi, i just did a clean format and now i'm copying my files back from my external backup hd
[21:59] <cronopio> but now they don't belong to my new user
[21:59] <cronopio> is there any way to batch switch user?
[21:59] <cronopio> *batch switch file owner
[22:00] <EriC^^> cronopio: sudo chown -R ${USER}: /path/to/filesdir
[22:02] <cronopio> oh, thanks!
[22:02] <cronopio> but say my user is cronopio, should i write ${cronopio}?
[22:11] <cronopio> (nevermind, it worked, thanks again)
[22:12] <cronopio> wait, no, it didn't work recursively
[22:17] <cronopio> but now it worked using the form user:group instead of ${user}:
[22:18] <EriC^^> cronopio: it's literally ${USER}: not to be replaced or anything
[22:18] <EriC^^> glad it worked though
[22:21] <cronopio> aaaah
[23:05] <kathadris> Is there to a way to have the dock hide when not in use. I have tried tweaks, exstensions, just perfection, and dconf editor. Right now it hides when an app touches it but comes right back. I want it to hide unless I click activities.
[23:40] <ledeni> kathadris: shuold be extension for that what is gnome shell vesion
[23:41] <kathadris> 3.38
[23:47] <ledeni> kathadris: dash to dock extension i think got option to autohide dock