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[01:16] <tertl3> hi
[01:16] <tertl3> i am  using on pinephone
[01:16] <tertl3> why no chrome or firefox?
 neither chrome nor firefox are build to be convergent
 If you have the ability, you can try to compile based on UT environment yourself🤣
 wait,UT support 5G device?
 If so which one?
[02:37] <braenon> on pinephone, would it be considered correct behavior for ubports to report no SIM card if an inactive SIM is present?
 🤔
[02:47] <braenon> wondering if my sim is dead or something
 not sure tbh
[03:38] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> I have a working mido with latest rootfs. Thanks guys for all the support. I need to test the features though.
[03:40] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> using hal7
[03:48] <tertl3> good day
[03:48] <tertl3> how can I make the battery last longer on pinephone?
[03:49] <tertl3> therews got rto be a way to use battery saver like on android IS
 i have a xiaomi mimax 3  … does it support ubuntu touch?
[04:20] <ubptgbot> <Nguyen Minh> If are there any?
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[05:28] <ubptgbot> <Vishnu Vijayakumar> Is Samsung Galaxy support ubport?
[05:33] <ubptgbot> <Vishnu Vijayakumar> I have  Samsung Galaxy A30s and A50s in my hand, which is running on oneui 3, i want change to ubports. Is this device are eligible for ubports or can i buy any other device . Please help me to solve the issue
 Supported Devices: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io
[05:43] <tertl3> poinecone user ghere
 @klaartje_b [Yesterday a BQ Aquaris E4.5 arrived here by mail 🤘 … What a sweet little slab of …], Hi, where did you get it? Mine has a broken screen. Thanks a lot
 @koni_raid [Hi, where did you get it? Mine has a broken screen. Thanks a lot], From a private seller, it was used.
 I'm having issues in Morph, when I try to save an image or link by long pressing an image and tap "save image" Morph just crash and the app closes. I'm in devel channel.
 There is something interesting on the log?
 @j2g2rp [There is something interesting on the log?], 27527:27606:0517/011344.333315:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(619)] Failed to call method: org.gnome.SessionManager.Uninhibit: object_path= /org/gnome/SessionManager: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: An AppArmor policy prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient; type
[06:15] <ubptgbot> ="method_call", sender=":1.343" (uid=32011 pid=27527 comm="morph-browser ") interface="org.gnome.SessionManager" member="Uninhibit" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.gnome.SessionManager" (uid=32011 pid=5804 comm="unity8 --mode=full-greeter ") … [27527:27606:0517/011344.333470:ERROR:power_save_blocker_x11.cc(408)] No respons
[06:15] <ubptgbot> e to Uninhibit() request! … qml: a download was requested with path /home/phablet/Downloads/index.html
 I think thats the error
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[09:18] <tertl3> ok
 hi
 @tertl3 [how can I make the battery last longer on pinephone?], kernelupgrade channel has the newer battery saving implementation. You can try switching to that if you want. It lasts more than a day on idle in my experience
 i have problem with me kernel
 its cant boot up in gsi
 https://pastebin.com/xug4RUmA
 @AhmedShehata98 [https://pastebin.com/xug4RUmA], i have sound gone and this logs
 @AhmedShehata98 [its cant boot up in gsi], if you are porting you will have a better change at getting an answer in @ubports_porting
 @braenon [on pinephone, would it be considered correct behavior for ubports to report no S …], It does
 I got a new SIM and my first UT device at the same time, because I needed a micro and not a nano SIM. It confused me too
[12:02] <braenon> sweet, thanks :)
 I just found the best use case for my Nexus 7 running UBPorts
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Vatdi6cK.png I put my school notes on here and I'm using it as an offline device to study
 @xyn_dev [<reply to media>], Cool!
 how to load .ovpn file to open vpn
 @xyn_dev [<reply to media>], Nice
 @ItoRimai [how to load .ovpn file to open vpn], U need ike certificate if I'm not wrong
 Checkout proton vpn guide
 @ItoRimai [how to load .ovpn file to open vpn], https://ubports.com/es/blog/ubports-blogs-y-noticias-1/post/using-vpn-in-ubuntu-touch-3065 … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5580/how-to-configure-nordvpn-on-ubuntu-touch … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/553/private-internet-access-app
 @ee [https://ubports.com/es/blog/ubports-blogs-y-noticias-1/post/using-vpn-in-ubuntu- …], Wow there is a guide for this
 Dam ubuntu touch is in another lavel
 Great OS and people 👌
 @xyn_dev [I just found the best use case for my Nexus 7 running UBPorts], Nexus 7 2012 or 2013 ?
 @Ayushskull [Nexus 7 2012 or 2013 ?], 2013
 @MuhammedSabbagh [2013], I have 2012 running postmarketos … But i like ubuntu touch
 Can I run this is on redmi k20 pro ???
 @ee [Great OS and people 👌], *community
 @Samkhazi [Can I run this is on redmi k20 pro ???], Code name Raphael right ?
 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/207&ved=2ahUKEwiGlPyC8dDwAhWKhv0HHdbSBbwQFjABegQIBBAF&usg=AOvVaw2GTWneJ43zKxrp1IHtva-A&cshid=1621260259073
 @D4R1IN9 [https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://github.com/Halium/p …], This should work
 Config openvpn cert is too hard :(
 @ItoRimai [Config openvpn cert is too hard :(], Naah just try in ur free time
 Or if ur setting up proton vpn u can do that in terminal
 Automatically connects on boot always on
 @ItoRimai [If you have the ability, you can try to compile based on UT environment yourself …], Yes, but many things might not work because of the display stack, using a qt/qml frontend is recommended, but a lot of other code can be connected to that :)
 @mateosalta [Yes, but many things might not work because of the display stack, using a qt/qml …], Too much technical details for him sir😂
 Does UT have wxWidgets library?If have,maybe this is another choice🤔
 no, the only officially supported toolkit is Qt. using others would require including them in the click package that needs them. and they need to support mirclient currently
 Now I see that some apps in openstore are Encapsulate the browser to view webpages,To achieve an app like effect
 something like that yeah
 @ItoRimai [Does UT have wxWidgets library?If have,maybe this is another choice🤔], would have to ship it inside wit wxqt maybe?
 wxWidgets: wxWidgets for Qt installation … https://docs.wxwidgets.org/trunk/plat_qt_install.html
 i think wx is also probably not good for building touch friendly apps
 ah,i see some screenshots :) would not be great on a phone
 a lot of the generic qt demos are like that too
 and only have the one win2000 theme
 20.04 could bring in the yaru theme into the mix on those
 Hello, … I'm having issues getting external display/convergence to work. … Using a USB-C hub on a Pro1 (android9 device) on the edge branch (the issue was already there months ago): … - Using HDMI makes the phone screen go blank (black, but with light on). The external screen is also blank. Disconnecting the hub from the phone does not r
[18:05] <ubptgbot> estore UT and a hard reboot is required. … - Using VGA, I got it almost working once: the phone screen explained how it could be used to control the mouse and the external screen showed a orange background with the status bar. I was unable to get anything to happen on the external screen (no mouse cursor, no reaction to keyboard) and the keyboard i
[18:05] <ubptgbot> con on the phone did nothing. Disconnecting the hub did reset unity8 and the phone kept working. … I have no idea where to look to find the logs for this functionality, any idea?
 @Flohack [Cool!], Sir is any changes will happen with navigation in next builds because back gesture is not there and reaching top left corner of 6inch display mobile is not a one hand task
 no
 I'm sorry if asked something wrong
 @Ayushskull [I have 2012 running postmarketos … But i like ubuntu touch], Lomiri on pmos wen
 [Edit] I'm sorry if i asked something wrong
 @D4R1IN9 [I'm sorry if i asked something wrong], You did not ask something wrong, its just that we have a ton of higher priorities first. But I can understand the issue
 @Flohack [You did not ask something wrong, its just that we have a ton of higher prioritie …], 😊we always respect and appreciate your work sir we will wait for it👍
 Don't expect it soon btw
 @amyosx [Don't expect it soon btw], Got it sir
 Im a girl
 Also sir is kinda cringe
 *mam
 @amyosx [Don't expect it soon btw], [Edit] Got it mam
 @amyosx [Also sir is kinda cringe], 😂
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 @D4R1IN9 [Sir is any changes will happen with navigation in next builds because back gestu …], you are a bit too late 🙂 this was the case in very early versions of UT. Up till about 2014 I think
 @matv1 [you are a bit too late 🙂 this was the case in very early versions of UT. Up til …], ?
 oh, the toolbars at bottom design?
 yep. Oliver Grawert threw a fit for about a month iirc :D
 yeah, i am not fond of the bottom edge stuff; also wasn't particularly fond of the auto-hiding toolbars stuff either though
 tbh a per app bottom edge back could be an idea 🤔
 Apps can do what they likem
 [Edit] Apps can do what they like
 @Fuseteam [tbh a per app bottom edge back could be an idea 🤔], Header -> Footer = Future? 😉
 not so fast :)
 @Danfro [Header -> Footer = Future? 😉], nah not the header on the bottom 😂
 more like the bottom edge being better utilized
 it so under utilized right now
 should probably just add a nav bar
 i can count the apps utilizing the bottom edge on my fingers :V
 morph, clock, calendar, kugi apps
 haha
 You missed weather app.
 contacts, dialer
 Most core apps do.
 messaging
 Notes did until recently.
 that's-a-seven— oh notes too yeah
 @dohbee [should probably just add a nav bar], Nah
 Cause pc
 one more and we'll have 2 whole hands xD
 it is also a bit difficult to discover´
 @amyosx [Cause pc], it could be hidden when using mouse
 @amyosx [Nah], I like the idea tbh. The little back arrow in the top corner is the biggest design flaw in my opinion. So hard to hit.
 i think kugi
 All apps that scroll somehow could do with a "top" and "bottom" button.
 [Edit] i think kugi's implemention in his facebook app
 [Edit] i think kugi's implemention in his facebook app could kinda work
 i mean, one of the main reasons for focusing on swipes and not having a nav bar, was always about providing more area for content; but phones have now basically solved this by just making taller screens that aren't 16:9 anyway
 still want that more area tho :3
 @Fuseteam [one more and we'll have 2 whole hands xD], Camera app. 😁
 nav bar in modern android is pretty on point though
 Have kind of a moveable thingy. Pull it right = back, pull it left = ?, pull it up = ?
 @Danfro [Camera app. 😁], Dice roller 😉
 A bit like the control some web apps use.
 Gear boy
 @Danfro [Have kind of a moveable thingy. Pull it right = back, pull it left = ?, pull it …], Left for switcher up for app drawer
 Easy
 Kinda android like tho
 Oh no
 Hm. True. A one button softbutton control. Inventive enough?
 I guess they did spend some time on the concept...
 @matv1 [you are a bit too late 🙂 this was the case in very early versions of UT. Up til …], recently my dev (redmi note 7 pro) is added to official list so not that late ig😅
 @amyosx [Kinda android like tho], if back gesture is there like swipe up that would be very handy
 @D4R1IN9 [recently my dev (redmi note 7 pro) is added to official list so not that late ig …], Btw. Teleports does nicely show your username. Telegram Desktop does only show some squares. Teleports rules! 😁
 (Photo, 86x31) https://irc.ubports.com/N00LvAQs.png
 @Danfro [Btw. Teleports does nicely show your username. Telegram Desktop does only show s …], 😂
 @Danfro [Btw. Teleports does nicely show your username. Telegram Desktop does only show s …], Interesting, works fine for me in TDesktop. But then again, I just realized that I'm using a special patched version of it that uses system fonts, so that's probably why...
 @Danfro [Btw. Teleports does nicely show your username. Telegram Desktop does only show s …], shows fine on manjaro
 @Follpvosten [Interesting, works fine for me in TDesktop. But then again, I just realized that …], I am using 2.7.4 Telegram Desktop - snap I think.
 Ubuntu here.
 @Danfro [I am using 2.7.4 Telegram Desktop - snap I think.], posibly a snap issue
 Might be.
 @PhoenixLandPirate [posibly a snap issue], Definitely a Snap issue, I always recommend to use Official telegram from telegram.org
 Just a binary, no menu integration, but I always use the option to launch with system and I have it always in the system tray
 @LGeek [Definitely a Snap issue, I always recommend to use Official telegram from telegr …], Does that update itself? Or would I need to do that manually?
 flatpak works
 @Danfro [Does that update itself? Or would I need to do that manually?], It does update itself
 @Danfro [Does that update itself? Or would I need to do that manually?], [Edit] It update itself
 Ok, cool. I might give that a try then.
 Mine's from the Void repos lol
 Although they DO offer snap there as well. So snap is also official. 😊
 (Photo, 289x90) https://irc.ubports.com/6AzZJGQP.png
 @PhoenixLandPirate [shows fine on manjaro], +
 @Danfro [Although they DO offer snap there as well. So snap is also official. 😊], It is official, but snap and flatpak have some limitation because the apps there are sandboxed and cause some distros doesn't have a good implementation of that technologies, so, the binary package works very well in almost all Linux distros out there and it
[19:54] <ubptgbot> update itself as soon as Telegram publish an update.
 @LGeek [It is official, but snap and flatpak have some limitation because the apps there …], Many thanks. Yes snaps are sometimes tricky and not working perfectly for all apps. But sandboxing in general is a good idea.
 But that might get OT here now.
 flatpak sandboxing isn't really sandboxed very much really - it might work better
 [Edit] flatpak sandboxing isn't really sandboxed very much - it might work better
 @Danfro [Many thanks. Yes snaps are sometimes tricky and not working perfectly for all ap …], Yes, I'm think sandboxing is a good idea, but snap and flatpak needs to be more mature, apps tends to have more error in their snap and flatpak versions and some imperfections like font implementation or loading times.
 @Danfro [Many thanks. Yes snaps are sometimes tricky and not working perfectly for all ap …], [Edit] Yes, I'm think sandboxing is a good idea, but snap and flatpak needs to be more mature, apps tends to have more errors in their snap and flatpak versions and some imperfections like font implementation or loading times.
 @Danfro [Many thanks. Yes snaps are sometimes tricky and not working perfectly for all ap …], [Edit] Yes, I think sandboxing is a good idea, but snap and flatpak needs to be more mature, apps tends to have more errors in their snap and flatpak versions and some imperfections like font implementation or loading times.
 I usually go repos, then flatpak - but I'm a bit in the advantage here since I'm on a rolling release and some stuff is also just packaged natively that probably won't get packaged on Ubuntu. … Then again, I don't even have the option to run snaps here because they need systemd lol, so it's really only flatpak and the occasional AppIm
[20:00] <ubptgbot> age if I need third-party apps that are not in the repo.
 @Follpvosten [I usually go repos, then flatpak - but I'm a bit in the advantage here since I'm …], My case, I go to repos, then AUR, then AppImage and finally Flatpak, if it is possible to build the app myself, I prefer to do so if the app is not in the repo
 wink wink nudge nudge
 Oh, right, off topic and such.
 @Follpvosten [Oh, right, off topic and such.], https://t.me/ubports/341171 😉
 I was indeed referencing that message :P
 Oh, Rodney was too. I thought yours was referencing his message. 😊
 Both actually lol
 Which is also why I didn't answer either
 All fine. 😊
 @Danfro [Camera app. 😁], boom shakalaka
 @Danfro [Have kind of a moveable thingy. Pull it right = back, pull it left = ?, pull it …], oh my that sounds.....
 @Danfro [I am using 2.7.4 Telegram Desktop - snap I think.], shows fine for me on telegram desktop snap :p
 @LGeek [Yes, I think sandboxing is a good idea, but snap and flatpak needs to be more ma …], telegram snap launches quicker than firefox deb :p
 @Fuseteam [telegram snap launches quicker than firefox deb :p], Some apps have issues with loading times, some others does not. Snaps works really well on Ubuntu, but on others distros it is not perfect hehehe
 @LGeek [Some apps have issues with loading times, some others does not. Snaps works real …], nah it's probably dependant on the app
 but yeah OT :^3
 yes, still OT :P
 @Danfro [Might be.], not showing on fedora kde
 who was the meizu pro 5 flash master again?
 there are needed in the welcome room stat :3
 @amyosx [not showing on fedora kde], Installed ms-fonts?
 Nah
 Ig thats the issu
 can you use plain text pls
 accessibility stuff
 😅sorry😅
 Now it should be k
 dunno when it happened but teleports profile-to-pm works again
 [Edit] dunno when it happened but teleports profile-to-pm works again yay
 @dohbee [yes, still OT :P], 😅 sorry
 @LGeek [😅 sorry], + 😅
 @LGeek [😅 sorry], no worries i kinda dragged it on :p
 Any admin who can purge?
 don't worry about, in ut news i managed to install rust's cargo package manager on UT! but i can install stuff with it......yet :p
 [Edit] don't worry about, in ut news i managed to install rust's cargo package manager on UT! but i can't install stuff with it......yet :p
 i needed to set 3 environment variables but it worked :3
 @Danfro [Have kind of a moveable thingy. Pull it right = back, pull it left = ?, pull it …], This kinda sounds like a certain pill switch muhehehehe
 @Fuseteam [tbh a per app bottom edge back could be an idea 🤔], I had an idea involving the system theme, If I understand correctly the themes can also change a bit more than colors ;)
 of course that would only work for things using the toolkit
 oh boi this is getting interesting
 what else can a theme change?
 a universal back however would be a very hard thing to accomplish
 yeah universal would be hard
 at this stage it has to be handled per app
 [Edit] it has to be handled per app
 and honestly android's universal back confuses me
 at one time it goes up a level in an app, at others it exits the app entirely
 even when it's the same page in the same app
 and then at others it.......does.......what ut's short swipe from the right does..........
 hmmmmm
 [Edit] and then at others it.......does.......what ut's short swipe from the right edge does..........
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/A9RT0XhY.png oh wow i never noticed this detail in the camera's photoroll
 its kinda giving me ideas hehehehe
 [Edit] its kinda giving me ideas hehehehe (and it reminds of a 'browser' concept video)
 @Fuseteam [and honestly android's universal back confuses me], Exactly, don't know if it will do nothing, back out if the app, go home?
 some apps page structure makes it go back too far..
 Then there is a problem with how maybe each app used the header - did the developer anchor the page to the bottom of the header, or chain to parrent
 or just a hack that moves the page downward a bit ;)
 and if we can change an element's anchors in the theme, we would have to recode the animations to work with both locations for the scroll hiding
 @mateosalta [Exactly, don't know if it will do nothing, back out if the app, go home?], yeah exactly
 @mateosalta [or just a hack that moves the page downward a bit ;)], oh hey overscrolls
 .......maybe not
 So I would need to do a proof of concept hack, then we could fix some things, then if looking good try for uttweak theme?
 sound like an idea
 @mateosalta [So I would need to do a proof of concept hack, then we could fix some things, th …], wait......the theme can change the anchors?
 @Fuseteam [wait......the theme can change the anchors?], maybe? If not it would be much harder than I thought 😅
 then i hope it can but i'm not sure i follow do you mean you'll access the page through the theme?
 [Edit] then i hope it can but i'm not sure i follow do you mean you'll access the page stack through the theme?
 In the theme I think you can define things that are changed, like a specific element's background
 oh interesting
 I might be wrong, need to check and experiment :)
 experiment away
 man we sure do have a lot of experiments happening hehehehe
 from nix to an intent parser to a lockscreen concept to flatpak to even flutter support :3