 I think the tablet not supports much. Nexus 7 doesn't support SIM card and I don't see any other products for sale
 are you looking for a tablet that runs Ubuntu Touch?
 The BQ M10 is still a great tablet
 but probably near impossible to buy
 I believe someone was making progress on a Lenovo tablet. I think that was also called M10
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 @ItoRimai [I think the tablet not supports much. Nexus 7 doesn't support SIM card and I don …], well, flo does most everything any other UT device could do. you could get nexus 7 lte, and then also use LTE instead of only wifi, but you can do everything except for voice/sms on them
 @mateosalta [In the theme I think you can define things that are changed, like a specific ele …], maybe that's on qqc2 styles? I don't remember UITK theme changing other than colors
 @mateosalta [Then there is a problem with how maybe each app used the header - did the develo …], I looked into this for the SwioeToBack feature for timer app. There are mainly two things facilitating 'back'. Pagestacks back action and the AdaptivePageLayout back action. The universal function would need to rigger those. PROBLEM: with APL
[05:00] <ubptgbot> the action needs to be fed the pages handle.
 automatic load .ovpn file is very necessary😡
 patience, the feature is being reviewed now, hopefully land soon
 https://news.itsfoss.com/ubuntu-touch-ota-17-release/ wtf?
 Is OTA-17 really based on focal? I think it's just misstake
 @just_carlod [Is OTA-17 really based on focal? I think it's just misstake], Yeah its a mistake lol
 They're living in the future.
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 I made a comment telling him to remove that ^^
 I think therewpu;d be much more excitement and pride if the rebase was already done and stable.
 oh dear it seems there is a lot of confusion
 https://www.muylinux.com/2021/05/13/ubuntu-touch-ota-17/
 little game o telephone.
 @mateosalta [oh dear it seems there is a lot of confusion], Please write those people ASAP to correct the mistake. Did we send out a bad wording?
 the paragraph text says opposite it looks, seems the one making the title did not understand?
 i only speak english
 but I think I blame other news sites that keep talking about 20.04 every release :)
 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Touch-OTA-16
 as far back as ota-15 news...
 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Touch-OTA-15
 mentioned 3 times there
 @mateosalta [https://www.muylinux.com/2021/05/13/ubuntu-touch-ota-17/], Spanish article is right, English article is wrong about 20.04 base.
 so my translation of the title is not correct?
 "moves to" ?
 or more like moving in the future towards
 @mateosalta [so my translation of the title is not correct?], The title of the Spanish article says "Ubuntu Touch OTA-17 moves forward to 20.04 LTS and enhances the camera function"
 so that is not right then
 @mateosalta [or more like moving in the future towards], Yep, moves in the future, also in the article says that UT is currently based on 16.04 and the developers is focused on migrate to 20.04 in the future releases
 @mateosalta [or more like moving in the future towards], [Edit] Yep, moves in the future, also in the article says that UT is currently based on 16.04 and the developers is focused on migrate to 20.04 in future releases
 oh, ok. as long as it makes sense that it is not 20.04 :)
 most only read titles of articles :)
 @mateosalta [oh, ok. as long as it makes sense that it is not 20.04 :)], I'm a native Spanish speaker, for me, the title and article is right, I understand that UT is moving to 20.04 in the future, not in the current release.
 thank you for the extra clarification on what they were saying :)
 How to use aethercast?
 @mateosalta [https://www.muylinux.com/2021/05/13/ubuntu-touch-ota-17/], That is correct.  … It's just a Clickbait
[07:53] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> Is there a way to check the OTA version in Ubuntu Touch?
 Go to settings/about
 @DarknessHiddenorg [How to use aethercast?], I am not sure if its propper Aethercast, but *some* devices support wireless display, if that is what you mean, The distinction between Aethercast and Miracast has always been fuzzy for me
[08:08] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> @Jan_ops79 [Go to settings/about], about section does not show ota version. Just shows device specific information.
 @Golden Monk [about section does not show ota version. Just shows device specific information.], which device are you using?
[08:21] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> @matv1 [which device are you using?], mido
 thats one of the xiaomi's right?
[08:23] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> @matv1 [thats one of the xiaomi's right?], yes, redmi note 4
[08:25] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> I just updated to latest arm64 rootfs.  … Can't find any info about the OTA version.
 ah so thats not one of the supported devices yet right?
[08:25] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> @matv1 [ah so thats not one of the supported devices yet right?], yes, I am trying to bring it to the supported devices.
 then I would say it depends on when you pulled your rootfs image
[08:28] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> I pulled it  day before yesterday. Which OTA version is the arm64 rootfs and what is the the diference between edge and the other version?
 but OTA's are more then rootfs. they bundle a lot more in an image, some of it device specific
[08:30] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> @matv1 [but OTA's are more then rootfs. they bundle a lot more in an image, some of it d …], Oh, I did not know that. What else do I need to do after updating rootfs? I am planning to create installer and recovery next.
 edge is the most updated channels with experimental patches but also the least stable
 the main images are Stable (which are the OTA images) , RC, devel, edge
 most of the people use devel or stable
 @Golden Monk [Oh, I did not know that. What else do I need to do after updating rootfs? I am p …], are you also in the porting channels? Knowlegde there might be more detailed. Mine is limited on this 🙂
 I mean the Ubports Porting and Halium channels
[08:35] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> @matv1 [I mean the Ubports Porting and Halium channels], yes I am there as well
[08:36] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> Ok thanks @matv1 and @just_carlod
 cool, and good luck!
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 @Danfro [I looked into this for the SwioeToBack feature for timer app. There are mainly t …], swipe to back is in the header too iirc right?
 hmmm actually that's fairly easy to use one handed on my bq e5 (the tallest phone i got)
 @Fuseteam [hmmm actually that's fairly easy to use one handed on my bq e5 (the tallest phon …], I personally think it improves handling a lot. Currently header, yes. Of course could be implemeted elsewhere too.
 And direction works both ways, so for left/right handed it is equally good.
 @Fuseteam [hmmm actually that's fairly easy to use one handed on my bq e5 (the tallest phon …], I struggle on the Oneplus 5 already. As it is much taller already holding it with one hand feels like it would tilt out of your hand. If you start doing gestures one-handed, I feel like I drop it for sure.
 Yes we must admit, buttons at the bottom are a carefully thought detail of iPhones and Android
 Hi, I am encountering an issue with front camera zoom on Xperia X with OTA-17
 When i am zooming over a value, the image is squeezed on a several horizontal lines
 It seems not to be the case with the back camera zoom
 Has someone encountered this issue ?
 Same when recording a video with zoom activated over a value
 @Flohack [Yes we must admit, buttons at the bottom are a carefully thought detail of iPhon …], maybe, but i don't like buttons anymore :P
 @Danfro [I personally think it improves handling a lot. Currently header, yes. Of course …], hmm yeah i think it would be better at the bottom but i'm sure i kinda like the extra screenspace 😆and the bottom edge where implemented too :3
 @christophe14 [Same when recording a video with zoom activated over a value], yes. only with front camera right? it is an issue mentioned in the Xeperia X channel yes, so I guess the developers know about it. Not sure if it the bug is actually filed on github/lab
 ?
 I saw only Xeperia z4 support UT, X support too?
 @matv1 [yes. only with front camera right? it is an issue mentioned in the Xeperia X cha …], Feel free to check and file one if it is not there yet
 Yes the Xperia X works well with UT
 https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/suzu/
 What is the most powerful device that Ubuntu touch supports
 @matv1 [yes. only with front camera right? it is an issue mentioned in the Xeperia X cha …], From what i have seen yes. Thanks!
 @Brendan [What is the most powerful device that Ubuntu touch supports], PC
 In terms of mobile devices
 Is the Xperia X channel you are mentioning mostly in German language ?
 yes mostly. But nobody minds if you ask in english, I think :)
 Xperia Z4 tablet?
 8-cores 3/4G RAM
 Ok
 What processer
 Name?
 810
 Qualcomm
 (Photo, 628x195) https://irc.ubports.com/btWA5UOE.png
 what problem today
 auto display Chinese
 @dohbee [PC], liar, there are no uefi bootable images yet :P
 @Fuseteam [liar, there are no uefi bootable images yet :P], But bios?
 We do have lineage for pc
 not sure about bios, i remember dalton talking about how our kernel is too old for secureboot
 (Photo, 732x366) https://irc.ubports.com/alNHfbcB.png
 so what it is?
 bios sys?
 @Fuseteam [not sure about bios, i remember dalton talking about how our kernel is too old f …], Well I don't have secure boo
 @Fuseteam [not sure about bios, i remember dalton talking about how our kernel is too old f …], [Edit] Well I don't have secure boot
 And a lot of pc's have secure boot disable option without any red banners
 well if it can work with secureboot it deffo better but i'm sure there are other issues aswell
 Practice is the only criterion for testing truth
 @ItoRimai [<reply to media>], see that bar? how low it is? i don't think we have any bootable images just yet, the most i have heard is there is a image file you can dd but i haven't been able to wrap my head around it yet
 i still have bliss os 14 on my pc
 Works better than my phone xD
 @Fuseteam [see that bar? how low it is? i don't think we have any bootable images just yet, …], But even if people want to install linux they have to disable secure boot
 And I don't expect people who haven't used linux before installing this OS
 @TheVancedGamer [But even if people want to install linux they have to disable secure boot], they don't? plenty of distros work with secure boot iirc
 @Fuseteam [they don't? plenty of distros work with secure boot iirc], Oh really?
 Hm
 I'm outdated on secure boot stuff
 and well the goal of ubuntu touch is to be consumer friendly anyway :P
 but install a linux in PC,maybe Desktop version is better choice
 Now Desktop Linux also develop in a more humane way
 nah ubuntu touch on PC will be OP :^3
 @Brendan [What is the most powerful device that Ubuntu touch supports], there are phones with 845 and up to 8GB of ram but not sure if they are officially supported already. Sample of this is the pocophone f1
 @Javacookies [there are phones with 845 and up to 8GB of ram but not sure if they are official …], Ok thanks for the info
 closest UT for PC is RPi I guess … it was slow on my RPi3b though 😅 but at least it works
 @Javacookies [closest UT for PC is RPi I guess … it was slow on my RPi3b though 😅 but at least …], Well I'll try porting it
 Using android generic
 no you don't need android on the rpi
 [Edit] no, you don't need android on the rpi
 But wait
 How will I debug it?
 mainline works on the rpi actually
 @Fuseteam [mainline works on the rpi actually], Nicr
 @Fuseteam [mainline works on the rpi actually], [Edit] Nice
 @Brendan [Ok thanks for the info], fxtec pro1-X was supposed to be the most powerful that supports wired external display support but sadly the processor was changed to a mid ranger
 My rpi4b gonna arive in a week
 @TheVancedGamer [Nice], yes a mainline and wayland like the pinephone
 @Javacookies [yes a mainline and wayland like the pinephone], The only reason I was getting a rpi was for minecraft xD
 it'll most likely work a lot better with 4 especially with more RAM
 70 dollars, 8gigs and 60 fps?
 I'm sold
 @TheVancedGamer [The only reason I was getting a rpi was for minecraft xD], LOL, you can spare an sd card for UT😄
 @Javacookies [fxtec pro1-X was supposed to be the most powerful that supports wired external d …], low ranger, mid ranger, high ranger … together we are the power rangers 💥
 my touchscreen monitor also worked
 @Fuseteam [low ranger, mid ranger, high ranger … together we are the power rangers 💥], it's morphin time
 btw there's a display issue on the rpi4 atm
 it will require a newer mir to fix it, so miroil
 @Javacookies [it's morphin time], 😂
 Nexus 7 is cheapest🤣in JP only $15.5
 @Fuseteam [it will require a newer mir to fix it, so miroil], :(
 In the meantime I'll play so much minecraft I'll be steve
 or you could help with miroil wink wink nudge nudge
 maybe minecraft is Realizable
 Compiling a QT MC java version launcher
 @ItoRimai [Compiling a QT MC java version launcher], Uh no thanks
 I'm better off with win10 on arm and minecraft java and bedrock
 @Fuseteam [or you could help with miroil wink wink nudge nudge], Um?
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 Will UBports boot on kernel 3.0?
 Because I got halium in telnet
 ?
 And there isn't anything in the logs to lead me in the right direction to get ssh up
 @TheVancedGamer [Will UBports boot on kernel 3.0?], Well you need to find out. If its about Galaxy S3, I do nmot have this device anymore but I really struggled with that
 @Flohack [Well you need to find out. If its about Galaxy S3, I do nmot have this device an …], Hm
 Kernel 3.4 gives me tons of errora
 [Edit] Kernel 3.4 gives me tons of errors
 @TheVancedGamer [Kernel 3.4 gives me tons of errors], You should use the kernel from the original Android or Lineage version. Mixing kernels in will give you just headaches
 @Flohack [You should use the kernel from the original Android or Lineage version. Mixing k …], Both lineage and your kernel is 3.0
 Which will bring more errors
 Hardware/samsung gives errors with 3.4
 @TheVancedGamer [Which will bring more errors], Well try to fix them. But I dont think it makes sense to invest in such an old device. Also, how many of those are still functional.
 @Flohack [Well try to fix them. But I dont think it makes sense to invest in such an old d …], Mine is in completely excellent condition
 And I also ported android 9 for it
 @TheVancedGamer [Mine is in completely excellent condition], Its fine when you port for yourself, but think about making a real change, for others, maybe hundreds of users, when porting a device that is accessible to many
 @Flohack [Its fine when you port for yourself, but think about making a real change, for o …], i did try to port the p8 but it just power resets
 Like I am doing Pixel ports now. I made a poll on Twitter, nobody wanted me to invest time in old Nexus phones (5X, 6), and most people wanted to see Pixel 2 or younger
 @Flohack [Like I am doing Pixel ports now. I made a poll on Twitter, nobody wanted me to i …], Good point
 Might try continuing the p8 port
 Nexus can be a family heirloom, passed on to kids and grandchildren🤣
 @Flohack [Like I am doing Pixel ports now. I made a poll on Twitter, nobody wanted me to i …], That means no Android 7/9 based port for Nexus 5? That's sad.
 @Flohack [Like I am doing Pixel ports now. I made a poll on Twitter, nobody wanted me to i …], [Edit] That means no completed Android 7/9 based port for Nexus 5? That's sad.
 @XShell [That means no completed Android 7/9 based port for Nexus 5? That's sad.], Nexus 5 will get a Halium 7.1 upgrade, its just blocked by a few regressions
 However, I think the performance of nexus is enough for daily use if no demand for games. Maybe this is one of main reason why nexus still has lot of users
 Now, as long as the system is optimized in place, it will be a surplus of performance in daily use
 @xyn_dev [<reply to media>], since then I have been using it to read other ebooks and such with wifi and bluetooth off and it's only drained 9%
 @Flohack [Its fine when you port for yourself, but think about making a real change, for o …], yeah, I definitely agree here. I find myself more likely to respond in porting channels when a person has a sensible device as target with non-zero chance to complete a port
 it doesn't really make sense to dig up something ancient or hard-by-design (like Kirin devices) and then ask for help at every step
[15:38] <ubptgbot> <Golden Monk> Can we use usb tethering in Ubuntu touch. UT to Linux desktop?
 To be clear I also love to play with old devices. I should finally restart my HTC One X port ^^
 But I would not propose this port as something exciting ^^
 @Flohack [To be clear I also love to play with old devices. I should finally restart my HT …], yeah, but you're knowledgeable enough to do things on your own
 @NotKit [yeah, but you're knowledgeable enough to do things on your own], Exactly I do it for my own doom ^^
 but when someone is trying to port a device that will likely require changes to mir-android-platform for example, it's pretty "meh", since the porter will likely run away once the required effort is clear
 Haha yes. Not even talking about mixing trees or kernel replacements that might be necessary. I call this a Frankenstein port lol
 @Flohack [Haha yes. Not even talking about mixing trees or kernel replacements that might …], A new categoriy for the devices page: stable ports, WIP ports, frankenstein ports. 😁
 @Danfro [A new categoriy for the devices page: stable ports, WIP ports, frankenstein port …], Haha exactly
 @Fuseteam [liar, there are no uefi bootable images yet :P], Would just install on top of regular ubuntu
[16:25] <randmin> Test
 Failed
[16:27] <randmin> Okay, hi! Where can i file bug reports regarding ubuntu mobile on pinephone ?
 @randmin [Test], Note from Autobot: Test failed, please leave and rejoin, and test again.
 (they're joking)
[16:28] <randmin> Obv lol
 randmin: https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/pinephone/-/issues
[16:28] <randmin> :)
[16:28] <randmin> Thx fort the link
 @mateosalta [Would just install on top of regular ubuntu], eh?
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 @Fuseteam [eh?], Just install ubports ropes ontop of a uefi booting Ubuntu install :)
 @Fuseteam [eh?], [Edit] Just install ubports repos ontop of a uefi booting Ubuntu install :)
 i mean UEFI isn't a hard requirement for all PCs
 we don't use UEFI on phones either, so :P
 I had the old canonical image on a ueif netboot
 but the i386 stuff is long gone...
 @TheVancedGamer [Works better than my phone xD], Lmao
 What phone?
 @amyosx [What phone?], galaxy a32
 My laptop can place calls
 Erg, drop shadows are hard
 Use 4g
 And send sms
 (Photo, 1080x2220) https://irc.ubports.com/h0EOu8vH.png
 It has a sim
 @mateosalta [<reply to media>], Lol
 border image isn't following the tab on swipe, but qtgraphical effects is too intensive
 so probally back to a thin divider for now
 @TheVancedGamer [My laptop can place calls], That sounds fun :)
 @mateosalta [That sounds fun :)], It is
 It can even place calls through a telephone modem
 Though that looks ridiculous
 Yes, using android
 @mateosalta [Just install ubports repos ontop of a uefi booting Ubuntu install :)], hmmmm
 @dohbee [i mean UEFI isn't a hard requirement for all PCs], yeah but do we have bios bootable images of ubuntu touch :3
 the qemu image yes; though it might be UEFI now too. i know dalton was trying to get UEFI working a while back
 yeah i know of that yeah, wasn't sure if bios was working tho
 It's not UEFI yet.
 "yet"
 kinda wonder if we can build an ubuntu touch iso using cinnamon's iso builder
 @mateosalta [Erg, drop shadows are hard], I still don't understand how drop shadow works using an image. I was surprised when I learned it's what's being used in many components in UT. I just replaced them with normal border in the keyboard 😆
 transparent png I think?
 maybe i need to see how the tabs( in phone size) do it and try to copy
 the horizontal tabs need a diffrent shadow they dont scale well
 im working to make the portrait tabs more like tabs
 @fredldotme just got my pixel3a very nice port!
 @mateosalta [@fredldotme just got my pixel3a very nice port!], Performance is like "woah", huh? :D
 is very good, no notch, i like size in hand, everything seems to work :)
 Perfect! Glad you like it! :)
 oled screen (another project to make a 'black' mode theme)
 @mateosalta [@fredldotme just got my pixel3a very nice port!], How many devices to go before having all devices in the installer? 😆
 just a few :0
 cant seem to find a fairphone 2
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 @UniversalSuperBox [got it], Thanks Dalton! :)
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 Has been anyone using F(x)tec Pro1 with UT?
 anyone know how far mycroft got on ut?
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