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[00:18] <leftyfb> sysadmin: stop it
[00:20] <jpmh> I;m using 20.04 and the gnome-screensaver - how do I change the settings for the saver?  I see no entry in settings!
[00:21] <panickedthumb> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001922.html
[00:22] <panickedthumb> Looks like migration is incoming
[00:49] <DumbLDoor> Hi! anyone has any idea on libfreshwrapper flash crashes on 21.04?
[00:49] <DumbLDoor> or how to recover from crashes without starting another user session?
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[00:52] <leftyfb> DumbLDoor: libfreshwrapper isn't supported
[00:52] <leftyfb> sysadmin: cut it out. It's not funny, nor is it even remotely accurate.
[00:52] <DumbLDoor> leftyfb: ty! Is any other flash lib still supported?
[00:52] <oerheks> there is a flash player snap, also a hack and a prop blob https://snapcraft.io/flasharch
[00:53] <oerheks> support with the maintainer
[00:54] <leftyfb> DumbLDoor: flash isn't supported by anyone, including Adobe, it's creator. If there's anyone still making flash sites/applications, they won't be for long
[00:55] <DumbLDoor> leftyfb: some have resorted to thick clients with older versions of flash..
[00:55] <DumbLDoor> leftyfb: Was using palemoon till 20.10, now it crashes. ANy idea on vivaldi?
[00:56] <oerheks> also palemoon was a hack, not seriously supported here
[00:59] <leftyfb> Kryptron: thank you
[00:59] <kryten> XD
[01:01] <DumbLDoor> oerheks: ty
[01:01] <DumbLDoor> Any way to run flash sites still on ubuntu? Adobe projector etc?
[01:01] <leftyfb> DumbLDoor: none that are supported
[01:01] <DumbLDoor> ty
[01:02] <DumbLDoor> leftyfb:ty
[01:02] <oerheks> see that snap
[01:04] <KiwiNYC> Hello, after I copy a few files from one drive to another, they are getting unmounted and I get an error message. Error Mounting /dev/sde/ at /media/4TB wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde, missing codepage or helper program or other (udisks-error-quark,0)
[01:04] <KiwiNYC> anyone run into this issue ?
[01:05] <KiwiNYC> after a reboot however, the drive gets mounted properly and works well.
[01:06] <DumbLDoor> leftyfb, oerheks: I will try to hook up adobe flash with edge dev on Ubuntu. Do you have any idea on this?
[01:08] <oerheks> html5 is the bomb
[01:08] <oerheks> sorry, no idea what edge dev means, and not seriously interested to find out
[01:09] <DumbLDoor> oerheks: Microsoft Edge (dev edition). anyways!
[01:29] <wyoung> Microsoft Edge is the worst.  Isn't MS using webkit now?
[01:30] <tomreyn> !ot | wyoung
[01:32] <wyoung> tomreyn: Does it matter anymore?  I thought Freenode was shutting down.
[01:32] <tomreyn> wyoung: that's not a topic for this channel either
[01:33] <wyoung> tomreyn: Right, anal right to the end!  I will respect your wishes and speak no more offtopic in here.
[02:01] <TortillaSandwich> any knowledge if official ubuntu channels are moving networks?
[02:02]  * RoDiMuS-X hopes not
[02:02] <leftyfb> TortillaSandwich: you want #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:02] <TortillaSandwich> leftyfb: well, Im not looking to discuss the drama. I just wanna know if they are/are not moving
[02:02] <TortillaSandwich> leftyfb: which is sorta on topic
[02:03] <TortillaSandwich> or if its TBD
[02:03] <panickedthumb> TortillaSandwich https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001922.html
[02:04] <TortillaSandwich> panickedthumb: thank you! exactly what I wanted to know.
[02:04] <TortillaSandwich> see you guys there
[02:10] <kryten> panickedthumb: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001923.html - if you are going to continue linking to the email archives, this one would be better then btw.
[02:11] <panickedthumb> Good spot. I wouldn't say "I'm going to continue" as I didn't even plan on doing it the second time, but that's definitely a better resource for us
[02:13] <kryten> Yeah, because the first one merely reflects the recommendation of what to do.
[02:14] <kryten> And if we are informing users already, might as well do it with clear facts. :)
[02:14] <panickedthumb> Yeah totally. And I'm sure a better resource will come up soon as well, as this is such a surprise and people are moving fast
[02:15] <kryten> Yeah, I'm hoping for that too.
[02:58] <tripelb> my system beeps at me, sometimes often, then more seldom. What is it and how can I found out?
[02:58] <tripelb> 20.04
[03:00] <wyoung> tripelb: It is your PC speaker, feel free to open up your computer and rip it out.
[03:21] <tripelb> wyoung, yes of corse the sound if from my speaker, or in this case from the speaker jack. -- thanks for the dismiss-her non-answer. Reminds me of the 2000's attitudes.
[03:21] <tripelb> haha
[03:22] <tripelb> way back it was like running the g.... (forgot the word) at the military schools.
[03:25] <tomreyn> tripelb: this can be a warning from the mainboard firmware that the system is overheating.
[03:25] <tomreyn> !sensors
[03:27] <tomreyn> tripelb: see also what's logged to the kernel log, run   dmesg -T   or   journalctl -bk
[03:27]  * tomreyn bbl
[03:38] <tripelb> tomreyn I will do that. oh overheating. ok will do that stuff.
[03:55] <tripelb> hello I am looking at the App store (suitcase with an A for software) and I have NO IDEA what is the catagory for browsers.
[03:56] <tripelb> wait, productivity has cromium. you know there is a grid of programs and NO CLUES as to what each does and  NO WAY to search on a name. -- Did GNOMES design this? Or ogres?
[03:57] <tripelb> I should be able to type in browsers and see them all. this is lame.
[03:58] <tripelb> just a user comment to the wise.
[03:59] <tripelb> unable to install chromium statuscode 409 snap change conflick .. message snam chromium has install snap change in progress.
[03:59] <tripelb> Is there another browser (not firefox or chrome) in the stable?
[04:00] <tripelb> wait, inspite of the UNABLE message, it has installed. WOW HOW PROFESSIONAL
[04:01] <tripelb> Oh SMART -- the Asuitcase has the apps NOT IN ALPHAbetic order.
[04:02] <tripelb> and there is no search box.  SUPER_PRO
[04:03] <Amaranth> Isn't there a search button on the top left corner?
[04:04] <tripelb> cant install opera either, same complaints as chromium but this timeit actually does NOT INSTALL
[04:04] <Amaranth> Dunno on that one, I don't use snap
[04:05] <tripelb> ah a Q on the very main screen. thanks, it isnt on the productivity page.  But I did find openra and it wont install.
[04:05] <chard7a> how to parse a dml insert script's value without insert into database
[04:06] <tripelb> brave installs. (I dont like it but it is a way to not use ff or chrome. OK I am in the groove of detective work on my issues.  LAters gaters
[04:06] <chard7a> like INSERT INTO tb_a VALUES (aa,bb,cc);
[04:06] <chard7a> i want get aa bb cc
[05:04] <wyoung> tripelb: You're very much welcome.  I am glad I could assist with your reminiscing.
[05:18] <kiwichap> hello
[05:18] <kiwichap> I am installing software updates on ubuntu and it says updating snaps it is taking quite a while and I can't tell if it's working or not
[05:18] <kiwichap> is it?
[05:18] <kiwichap> will it work if the screen saver is on?
[05:42] <tripelb> tomreyn, that page doesnt exist but this does https://lintut.com/how-to-monitor-cpu-and-gpu-temperature-in-ubuntu-linux/
[05:48] <tripelb> but then it got confusing. # Chip drivers   coretemp    /etc/init.d/kmod start   (before that) lots and then do you want to add these line to /etc/modules.. was successful. now I am lost. so to bed. tomorrow.
[05:50] <tripelb> Ithis was my success but now what...)  ntel digital thermal sensor...                             Success!   (driver `coretemp')
[05:50] <tripelb> oh dumb. i just do the command     sensors
[06:04] <zod> j #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:04] <zod> my bad folks
[06:10] <isomari> clear
[06:15] <isomari> greetings, Are there any possible conflicts if I also install plasma on ubuntut so I have a choice on login?
[06:17] <Bashing-om> help network
[06:44] <bittin> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001923.html
[07:48] <KittyTrouble> Hey so I don't have a USB on me but I do have an external hard drive. How can I install ubuntu on my desktop using it? Boot options don't seem to recognize it as a USB device
[07:48] <KittyTrouble> I don't have a flash drive on me*
[07:49] <TheBigK> are u sure it doesnt get recognized?
[07:49] <KittyTrouble> I dunno I get an error every time I try to choose it in the boot options
[07:49] <TheBigK> the hard drive is attached via usb as well isnt it?
[07:50] <KittyTrouble> yeah
[07:50] <TheBigK> what kind of error u get
[07:50] <TheBigK> another option would be to install it over network if u have a second computer of some sort
[07:51] <KittyTrouble> I do have a second computer but I don't know how that works
[07:51] <TheBigK> is on that computer a linux installed?
[07:51] <KittyTrouble> No, windows
[07:52] <TheBigK> on windows i have no idea either how to install a pxe environment :D
[07:52] <TheBigK> can u format the external hard drive or did u already?
[07:53] <KittyTrouble> I used rufus on it but I had to check list usb hard drives
[07:53] <TheBigK> just to extract that iso onto that external hard drive isnt enough. u need a boot sector directing to a grub on there
[07:53] <TheBigK> okay. stilll no luck with it?
[07:54] <KittyTrouble> Under boot device menu I see onboard or USB CD-ROM drive, onboard network controller, and USB device. If I choose either of the USB options it says selected boot device not available
[07:56] <TheBigK> i would check ur bios for some wrong settings... may be try disable secure boot?
[07:56] <TheBigK> hard to say whats wrong without knowing more details
[07:57] <TheBigK> but im using usually flash drives which i have plenty laying around here :D
[07:58] <jelly> which components is 21.04 using for Active Directory joining and GPOs?  Is it just realmd with a GUI slapped on top?
[07:59] <jelly> and what specific GPO can be used with Ubuntu workstations?
[08:01] <EriC^> KittyTrouble: by any chance do you have ubuntu or any other OS that uses grub installed on the internal hdd you're trying to install to?
[08:02] <KittyTrouble> No I do not. It's a new desktop I just bought that has windows 10
[08:02] <KittyTrouble> optiplex 760
[08:03] <enyc> I wondered if theres' any silly  secure-boot problem
[08:03] <pikapika> KittyTrouble, is it viable to carry a desktop as a portable machine?
[08:03] <EriC^> maybe rufus didn't make the live usb right?
[08:05] <EriC^> KittyTrouble: i'd see if there's a fat32 partition with the efi dir inside and try to disable secure boot and boot the usb in uefi mode
[08:05] <EriC^> for uefi mode all you need is a fat32, and the contents of the ubuntu iso in it
[08:06] <KittyTrouble> pikapika not sure what you're asking
[08:06] <EriC^> but if you have at least efi/boot/bootx64.efi in there it should give you at least a grub shell
[08:06] <pikapika> KittyTrouble, lug around a desktop in your bag
[08:06] <KittyTrouble> No I don't think so, why?
[08:07] <pikapika> KittyTrouble, laptops are regressing these days
[08:07] <pikapika> Very limited options
[08:07] <KittyTrouble> I'm trying to install ubuntu onto a desktop, so I don't get your line of questioning
[08:07] <EriC^> he's trolling
[08:08] <pikapika> KittyTrouble, its an unrelated matter
[08:09] <KittyTrouble> I don't see any secure boot setting, the SATA operation does list AHCI, ATA and legacy though
[08:09] <EriC^> is there a uefi mode/csm legacy for booting?
[08:10] <KittyTrouble> Nothing that I can see
[08:10] <KittyTrouble> googling it
[08:10] <KittyTrouble> regardless that shouldnt affect booting off USB
[08:10] <EriC^> when you used the boot options menu earlier, did it say "uefi usb" or just usb?
[08:10] <KittyTrouble> right
[08:11] <KittyTrouble> just usb
[08:11] <EriC^> KittyTrouble: yeah it can boot in legacy mode
[08:12] <KittyTrouble> I just need a way to install ubuntu on this, and I don't particularly want to keep windows
[08:13] <KittyTrouble> I guess maybe I can buy a flash drive there has to be a way to use my external hard drive
[08:14] <EriC^> if i were you, i would create a fat32 on it, extract the contents of the ubuntu iso there, and boot it in uefi mode
[08:14] <EriC^> and possibly checksum the iso before doing so, just to know it's all intact
[08:15] <KittyTrouble> I don't know how to boot off a specific partititon
[08:15] <EriC^> if you can point the dell bios to boot it in uefi mode, it should boot, or maybe if you have a 'browse for efi file' option you could manually browse to hdd/efi/boot/bootx64.efi and boot grub
[08:16] <EriC^> KittyTrouble: when you select the hdd to be booted in uefi mode, it'll search for any fat32 and boot that specific file, it's the standard
[08:16] <EriC^> if you boot the hdd in legacy mode, it will look in the mbr for a bootloader and run that
[08:17] <EriC^> KittyTrouble: actually i think the fat32 partition has to have the efi partition flag as well
[08:18] <KittyTrouble> This is a lot of info and I don't know how to do the things you're saying, nor am I sure it would work
[08:19] <EriC^> KittyTrouble: ok, when you plug the usb hdd in your other desktop, do you see a fat32 partition show up?
[08:20] <KittyTrouble> I dunno if it's a partition or not
[08:20] <KittyTrouble> It shows up in explorer
[08:20] <EriC^> ok browse the files
[08:20] <EriC^> do you see a 'efi' dir?
[08:20] <KittyTrouble> yes
[08:21] <EriC^> inside it 'boot' then bootx64.efi ?
[08:21] <KittyTrouble> yeah
[08:21] <EriC^> ok good
[08:21] <KittyTrouble> well it's capitalized but yes
[08:21] <EriC^> ok so the file uefi uses by standard to boot is there
[08:22] <KittyTrouble> So what are you suggesting that I do on my desktop to get it working?
[08:22] <EriC^> well im trying to understand the situation, just the basics, like car isnt starting, is there fuel in the tank? sort of
[08:23] <EriC^> but since the file is there and the bios says no bootloader found or whatever, i'd guess maybe it has a problem booting usb hdd's or something in uefi mode? maybe if you could attempt to let it boot it in legacy mode that might work?
[08:23] <KittyTrouble> I have this external hard drive which I'd like to just work as a flash drive would, but I don't think it actually works that way
[08:24] <KittyTrouble> The only setting for AHCI/ATA/LEGACY is for SATA Operation
[08:24] <EriC^> KittyTrouble: there are other options you could do to go about it, ultimately
[08:26] <EriC^> i think it should work though, it's like as if you had ubuntu installed on the usb hdd, it would use the same file to boot
[08:26] <EriC^> 1 sec
[08:28] <EriC^> KittyTrouble: do you have options like these? https://youtu.be/5TtFuHTjRME?t=53
[08:29] <KittyTrouble> No.
[08:29] <KittyTrouble> It's a little bit different. That screen doesn't have the option that video mentions
[08:30] <KittyTrouble> I could try updating bios
[08:30] <tatertots> KittyTrouble: if you are unable to create USB installation media, you have the option to burn a DVD/-RW but you probably don't have that either
[08:31] <EriC^> KittyTrouble: what options do you have when you go to the bios menu?
[08:31] <EriC^> KittyTrouble: look for anything relating to secureboot, enabling usb booting, uefi/legacy
[08:31] <KittyTrouble> I already told you, there's nothing like that
[08:32] <KittyTrouble> There is a usb device thing
[08:32] <KittyTrouble> Everything is already enabled
[08:32] <EriC^> can you screenshot?
[08:32] <KittyTrouble> Just it won't load off USB
[08:33] <KittyTrouble> Ok, itll be a second I'll have to take pictures of it
[08:38] <KittyTrouble> I started setting up windows was gonna try updating my bios I'll take a picture of the errors in a bit
[08:44] <KittyTrouble> Okay about to take pictures
[08:48] <KittyTrouble> They're uploading
[08:50] <KittyTrouble> https://imgur.com/a/ayDkAaV is all there is EriC^
[08:50] <herbert__> Hi! I am trying to run qt4 and qt5 on the same machine (ubuntu 20.04) but I cant find a package for qt4... how do I install it? I need it to build an app with qmake that is written in qt4.
[09:10] <KittyTrouble> I guess I can just try unetbootin
[09:10] <KittyTrouble> I didnt really wanna dual boot though
[09:29] <Razva> Hi. Is this correct for forwarding port `65432` on eth0 to port `65432` on eth1 to 192.168.1.2 : `ufw route allow in on eth0 out on eth1 to 192.168.1.2 port 65432 from any port 65432 comment "SSH Sea"` ?
[09:37] <gebbione> is there a way to add a VPN to network manager without a password? I cannot get past the configuration unless a password is specified
[09:48] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: sorry im back
[09:48] <KittyTrouble> np
[09:49] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: what happens if you try to enter "System setup" ?
[09:49] <KittyTrouble> thats just the bios thing in the other screen
[09:49] <EriC^^> yup, that's what's needed, there should be a secureboot setting, uefi/legacy, usb booting related options there hopefully
[09:49] <KittyTrouble> im installing unetbootin on drive c and seeing if that works
[09:50] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: also it could be worth it to try a different usb port as well
[09:50] <KittyTrouble> I showed you the available options in the album there
[09:50] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: ok cool
[09:50] <EriC^^> oh ok, didnt see the rest of the pics below
[09:51] <KittyTrouble> I don't really want to take up space to keep windows on the computer but seems too much of a headache to do it otherwise
[09:52] <EriC^^> you can erase windows completely if you boot the live usb made by unetbootin too
[09:53] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: still though there should be some secure boot setting somewhere in the bios i feel
[09:53] <KittyTrouble> I did it on drive c
[09:54] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: one of the best ways to make a live usb is using dd on linux, you really just need to copy the image to the drive as whole
[09:55] <KittyTrouble> It's probably just a compatibility issue with the drive and the computer, or something like the drive isn't treated as a flash drive, I dunno
[09:56] <EriC^^> if you want you could try using dd equivalent for windows, it's because dd is the more fool-proof sure way of doing it, also think rufus has an option to just use dd, there's some info here on using dd on windows https://superuser.com/questions/839502/windows-equivalent-for-dd
[09:56] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: yeah it's odd, but really it doesnt have to be treated as a flash drive, like if you had an actual install on the hdd, it should also be able to boot it i guess
[09:57] <EriC^^> (it's basically the same in the end, for uefi as i mentioned earlier it will use bootx64.efi, for legacy booting it will try to load the bootloader in the MBR master boot record)
[09:58] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: did you try another usb port?
[09:58] <KittyTrouble> yes
[09:59] <EriC^^> how did you download the iso? torrent?
[09:59] <KittyTrouble> no off the website
[10:00] <KittyTrouble> I already said I'm installing it based on unetbootin on the c drive
[10:00] <KittyTrouble> Is there a way I can delete my windows partition after the fact?
[10:00] <KittyTrouble> And make this one bigger?
[10:00] <KittyTrouble> Or it can't work that way?
[10:00] <EriC^^> not sure what you mean, i thought unetbootin only makes live usbs
[10:01] <KittyTrouble> https://askubuntu.com/questions/484434/how-can-i-install-ubuntu-without-cd-and-usb
[10:02] <EriC^^> oh ok great, what step are you at, it's still installing or you reached the try/install menu and booted the live session?
[10:03] <KittyTrouble> I'm at the step where it asks the installation type. If I choose erase disk and install ubuntu is it gonna glitch out since the installation stuff is on drive c?
[10:03] <KittyTrouble> I have to just do it on a new partition, don't I?
[10:03] <EriC^^> yeah that's what i think as well
[10:05] <guiverc> KittyTrouble, you haven't said what release that I can see; if you've plenty of RAM & a very recent release; the validation of media causes the whole installation media to be loaded into ram cache (as long as you've RAM available to keep it there... but that is dependent on unstated release)
[10:05] <Learner2> hello
[10:05] <Learner2> can anybody help me to boot into my system?
[10:05] <KittyTrouble> It's the latest long term release
[10:05] <Learner2> I have ubuntu on my laptop, last night ran apt upgrade
[10:05] <Learner2> then rebooted and it boots only into memtest
[10:06] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: do you also have a desktop environment right now? or just the installer?
[10:06] <Learner2> adding complexity: it's zfs on root with native encryption on
[10:06] <KittyTrouble> guiverc, you think if I erase disk and install ubuntu that it should be fine?
[10:06] <KittyTrouble> That's what I'd prefer
[10:06] <guiverc> KittyTrouble, nope, it does the verify before cache is active so what I suggested doesn't apply (fully) in focal
[10:07] <EriC^^> guiverc: shouldn't it be using 'toram' as a kernel parameter for that?
[10:07] <KittyTrouble> I'm confused by what you're saying
[10:07] <KittyTrouble> You gotta spell it out for me, I'm not good with OS stuff
[10:07]  * guiverc the changes I was referring to where started in groovy (20.10) & completed in hirsute (21.04) so focal didn't have that yet
[10:07] <EriC^^> ah
[10:08] <guiverc> EriC^^, toram may work; I've no experience with it and installs in a LONG time
[10:08] <EriC^^> aha
[10:09] <EriC^^> i think the safest approach is to delete the windows partition create an 'empty partition of size of the iso' and then install to the remaining space
[10:10] <KittyTrouble> But isnt the installation media ON the windows partition
[10:10] <EriC^^> what do you think guiverc ? or he could reboot, edit grub's line with toram, but then it's a little risky
[10:10] <guiverc> I'd agree with what you said EriC^^ ; create partition for ISO & install with that (small amount of disk space is lost; easily reclaimed if you can be bothered)
[10:10] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: yes but it's actually written there in the 'space' and right now it's loaded, so even if you remove the partition it would continue
[10:11] <EriC^^> as long as you dont overwrite it with the new install or any other data in that 'space'
[10:12] <Learner2> no custom settings. it'sthe way ubuntu installer has set it up
[10:12] <Learner2> 20.10
[10:12] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: so basically, you can either lose 4-5gb at the start, and then later try to reclaim it, or you can try to reboot, and in grub add in 'toram' so it loads everything to ram and try your luck with that
[10:12] <Learner2> (just chose zfs and full disk encryption opntions in the installer)
[10:13] <KittyTrouble> When I load the computer, it says choose an operating system, windows or unetbootin
[10:13] <KittyTrouble> Choosing unetbootin allows me to install ubuntu etc
[10:13] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: when you press unetbootin though it gives a grub menu with try or install ubuntu though right?
[10:13] <KittyTrouble> yes
[10:14] <EriC^^> i'd just go with the safer route of losing 4-5gb and reclaiming later
[10:14] <EriC^^> so you know your install is 100% and not corrupted somehow
[10:14] <KittyTrouble> You say that but I don't know the steps to do what youre staying
[10:14] <KittyTrouble> I need a step 1 do this, step 2 do this, etc
[10:15] <gebbione> do you have any suggestions on what i can do to fix this error ? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5vFdXSqSjP/
[10:15] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: gotcha, are you in the desktop right now or just the installer?
[10:15] <EriC^^> i.e can you open a terminal?
[10:15] <KittyTrouble> I was in the installer. I tried resizing a partition and it gave an error
[10:16] <EriC^^> what was the error?
[10:16] <KittyTrouble> When I get back into the partitions I'll tell you
[10:16] <KittyTrouble> It's doing a disk check
[10:16] <EriC^^> ok, if you can get a desktop it'd be better (the try ubuntu option)
[10:16] <KittyTrouble> It was just an error resizing it and then there was some unknown stuff about the artition
[10:17] <KittyTrouble> ok
[10:19] <KittyTrouble> Once I get into the desktop then what
[10:19] <EriC^^> open a terminal and type 'sudo parted -ls'
[10:19] <EriC^^> do you have an internet connection in the live session?
[10:20] <KittyTrouble> I should
[10:20] <EriC^^> ok, type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' it will give you a link back to the paste, share it here please
[10:21] <KittyTrouble> It's taking a bit to load so when it does I'll do tha
[10:22] <V|A> i keep downloading files and they keep disappearing WTF
[10:23] <V|A> download done .. folder is empty
[10:24] <Learner2> V|A, you probably download to a different folder
[10:26] <KittyTrouble> ok im in
[10:27] <KittyTrouble> https://termbin.com/bnlf
[10:28] <KittyTrouble> EriC^^
[10:29] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: ok, that's interesting, there seems to be an ext partition at the end, which is the same size as the ubuntu iso
[10:29] <EriC^^> maybe it's not actually using the first windows partition?
[10:30] <KittyTrouble> Yeah maybe
[10:30] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: type 'sudo cfdisk /dev/sda'
[10:30] <KittyTrouble> then what
[10:31] <EriC^^> highlight the 500mb partition and delete it
[10:31] <KittyTrouble> done
[10:32] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: can you open another terminal as well and type "mount | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[10:32] <EriC^^> it should show what's actually mounted right now, if it's not using the ntfs one at all, maybe we can just delete it fully
[10:33] <KittyTrouble> https://termbin.com/02l6
[10:34] <EriC^^> nevermind, it's using it /dev/sda2 on /cdrom type fuseblk (rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[10:35] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: ok, in cfdisk, try to highlight the 316gb ntfs partition and delete it
[10:35] <KittyTrouble> There's not a 316gb theres a 294g
[10:36] <KittyTrouble> delete that one? sda2?
[10:36] <EriC^^> yup
[10:36] <KittyTrouble> That's deleted
[10:36] <EriC^^> ok, now create a new partition
[10:36] <KittyTrouble> primary?
[10:37] <EriC^^> yes
[10:37] <KittyTrouble> Ok, done
[10:37] <EriC^^> wait did it not ask for size?
[10:37] <KittyTrouble> Oh it did, I just chose the full amount
[10:37] <KittyTrouble> Was that wrong?
[10:38] <EriC^^> ok, delete it and create again using the size 4G
[10:38] <KittyTrouble> Ok, done
[10:39] <EriC^^> ok "write" the new partition table
[10:39] <KittyTrouble> Done
[10:39] <EriC^^> ok, quit the program
[10:40] <KittyTrouble> You mean quit the terminal?
[10:40] <EriC^^> no, just cfdisk if it hasnt already
[10:40] <KittyTrouble> Okay, what next?
[10:40] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: type "ls /sys/firmware/efi"
[10:41] <EriC^^> does it say no such dir, or does it list a bunch of dirs?
[10:41] <KittyTrouble> ls /sys/firmware/efi
[10:41] <KittyTrouble> no such
[10:42] <EriC^^> ok great, that means the live usb is booted in legacy mode, which is great cause windows was in legacy mode and your bios is using that
[10:42] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: ok, start the installer from the desktop icon
[10:44] <KittyTrouble> The installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions: /dev/sdb Do you want the installer to try to unmount the partitions on these disks before continuing?
[10:44] <EriC^^> no need
[10:45] <KittyTrouble> Okay now I'm on the page install alongside windows 10, erase disk and install ubuntu, and something else
[10:45] <KittyTrouble> What should I put
[10:46] <KittyTrouble> Something else I assume?
[10:46] <EriC^^> yup go for it
[10:47] <KittyTrouble> Okay, what now?
[10:47] <KittyTrouble> I'm on the list of partitions
[10:47] <KittyTrouble> Plus button on the free space/
[10:47] <KittyTrouble> ?
[10:49] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: yes press that and create a partition after the 4gb one
[10:49] <EriC^^> make it mountpoint "/" and fs type "ext4"
[10:49] <KittyTrouble> Primary or logical?
[10:50] <EriC^^> also at the bottom of the screen to the left, make sure it says location to install bootloader "/dev/sda" not sda1 or anything else
[10:50] <EriC^^> primary
[10:51] <KittyTrouble> it defaulted to my external drive, changed it to sda
[10:51] <EriC^^> ok great
[10:52] <KittyTrouble> The installer needs to commit changes to partition tables but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount points could not be unmounted: /cdrom
[10:52] <KittyTrouble> Please close any applications using these mount points
[10:54] <KittyTrouble> Window says failed to unmount partitions
[10:54] <EriC^^> yeah, that sucks, the ntfs one was mounted there
[10:55] <KittyTrouble> What should I do?
[10:58] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: ok, new plan, try to use "dd" in ubuntu right now make the live usb on the ext hdd just in case (since right now it looks kind of skewed from parted's output earlier), 2nd reverse the changes we made to the partition table, boot into windows and from there shrink the windows partition and then boot again and install to the unallocated free space
[10:58] <KittyTrouble> What?
[10:59] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: was the iso located on the C: drive?
[10:59] <KittyTrouble> Originally yes, idk what unetbootin did
[10:59] <EriC^^> ok, type in a terminal "nautilus /cdrom" see if you can browse to it and find it
[11:00] <KittyTrouble> Yes, I'm there
[11:00] <EriC^^> ok right click somewhere and press "open in terminal" if that's available
[11:01] <KittyTrouble> Okay
[11:01] <KittyTrouble> in terminal
[11:02] <EriC^^> ok, type md5sum ubuntu<press tab to autocomplete the iso filename>
[11:02] <EriC^^> mds5um ubuntu-desktop-blabla.iso
[11:02] <KittyTrouble> There's no .iso in that folder
[11:03] <EriC^^> where's the iso located?
[11:03] <KittyTrouble> The iso was located in my downloads folder before running the unetbootin on it
[11:03] <EriC^^> you saw it there in nautilus still?
[11:04] <KittyTrouble> There is a cdrom folder...it doesnt have an iso folder, it has the files and folders inside of it
[11:04] <KittyTrouble> doesnt have an iso file
[11:05] <EriC^^> no windows files? users dir?
[11:06] <KittyTrouble> imgur.com/a/OyzhrY0
[11:06] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: ok, go to users > your user > downloads
[11:08] <KittyTrouble> oh
[11:08] <KittyTrouble> I didnt download an iso
[11:08] <Dejan> I hope you guys are planning to move to OFTC where #Debian is :)
[11:08] <KittyTrouble> unetbootin downloaded it for me
[11:08] <KittyTrouble> I can go download it though
[11:09] <KittyTrouble> Should I do that?
[11:10] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: sure why not
[11:11] <EriC^^> we can at least get a 100% sure working live usb on the ext hdd, in case we end up needing it
[11:12] <KittyTrouble> I mean it's not gonna help if my computer can't detect the hdd
[11:15] <KittyTrouble> I guess it's not downloading
[11:15] <KittyTrouble> downloads in the live ubuntu use RAM, right
[11:16] <KittyTrouble> thats probably why
[11:16] <KittyTrouble> i only have 4 gb ram
[11:16] <EriC^^> no you should be able to save to "/cdrom"
[11:16] <EriC^^> it's mounted read-write
[11:17] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: type in a terminal "wget -O /cdrom/ubuntu.iso https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso"
[11:19] <KittyTrouble> I'm downloading it using firefox already
[11:19] <KittyTrouble> Anyways, 1 minute left on the download
[11:19] <EriC^^> ok
[11:22] <KittyTrouble> doing the md5sum thing
[11:22] <KittyTrouble> it's doing whatever it's doing
[11:22] <EriC^^> ok actually do sha256sum <iso here> instead
[11:22] <KittyTrouble> I aleady did md5sum is that ok?
[11:22] <EriC^^> it should give back 93bdab204067321ff131f560879db46bee3b994bf24836bb78538640f689e58f
[11:22] <EriC^^> yeah thats fine
[11:23] <KittyTrouble> seems fine to me
[11:23] <EriC^^> starts with 93 ends with 8f?
[11:24] <KittyTrouble> yes
[11:24] <EriC^^> ok great
[11:24] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: type "sudo umount /dev/sdb1"
[11:24] <KittyTrouble> k
[11:25] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: then type "sudo dd if=<ubuntu iso here> of=/dev/sdb bs=4M status=progress && sync"
[11:25] <EriC^^> note that it's /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1
[11:26] <KittyTrouble> if=ubuntu........iso of= ... right?
[11:26] <EriC^^> yup
[11:29] <KittyTrouble> done
[11:30] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: ok, now type "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda"
[11:30] <KittyTrouble> ok
[11:31] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: delete the 4gb partition from earlier
[11:31] <KittyTrouble> done
[11:32] <KittyTrouble> so now there is a bunch of free space
[11:33] <KittyTrouble> then sda3 then a 1 mb free space then sda4
[11:33] <EriC^^> ok 1 sec
[11:34] <EriC^^> ok, create a partition, when it asks for size put "316GB"
[11:35] <EriC^^> it's very important that it's GB and not G
[11:35] <KittyTrouble> Done
[11:36] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: create another partition and when it asks for size type "500MB"
[11:37] <KittyTrouble> done
[11:37] <KittyTrouble> now there is 357M free space
[11:39] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: ok i dont think it will matter
[11:40] <KittyTrouble> ok
[11:40] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: ok, try to restart the pc and boot into windows
[11:40] <KittyTrouble> I don't need to write the partitions?
[11:41] <EriC^^> ok sorry, yes
[11:41] <EriC^^> *oh
[11:42] <KittyTrouble> no boot device available
[11:44] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: for the ext hdd and the internal?
[11:44] <KittyTrouble> Thats just the default message. No boot device available
[11:44] <KittyTrouble> Going into boot options and choosing USB device is the same
[11:46] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: i think it must be that it used the partition id to boot
[11:47] <KittyTrouble> So guess my computer is bricked now till I get it figured out
[11:47] <EriC^^> i wish we had made a backup of the whole partition table in case the installer plan didnt work out
[11:48] <Learner2> can anyone help me?
[11:48] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: yeah sorry about that, you need to maybe get a usb or cd/dvd with a live usb on it
[11:49] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: can you not get any usb or dvd somehow?
[11:49] <KittyTrouble> Well not right now, it's the middle of the night
[11:49] <KittyTrouble> I was trying to make do with what I had
[11:50] <KittyTrouble> Gonna go to bed
[11:50] <KittyTrouble> Thanks for trying
[11:50] <EriC^^> in any case though, you really need to have a working live usb at hand for the future if you ever need it to fix anything
[11:50] <EriC^^> KittyTrouble: no problem, im sorry it didnt work out and the pc isnt usable right now
[11:51] <KittyTrouble> Probably should have changed the partition size from within windows
[11:52] <EriC^^> yeah that's what we were trying to in the end, to shrink it from there
[11:52] <EriC^^> hindsight is 20/20 i guess
[11:55] <aiena> I am trying to run an ubuntu vm with virtgl so it can use my nvidia card. But If I enable 3d acceleration my VM boots up with a black screen what could be wrong?
[12:13] <stubkan> I have a big problem.  Hopefully someone can help..   I was running Testdisk yesterday and  something happened to make my disk space go to 0 and all the system stopped, so I shut it down and noticed I couldnt modify the hard drive.  so I rebooted,  It now won't let me log in and all the log files dont have any errors except 'cant write log,
[12:13] <stubkan> out of disk space' and similar msgs.
[12:13] <stubkan> I loaded the system on a live usb and deleted files to free up about 10gb of space, go back to try to login, still can't... back to live usb, 0 disk space left.   It's done it twice now, I am not sure why the disk space keeps disappearing.  fsck -f has no errors
[12:14] <aiena> stubkan: it looks like your harddrive is failing/failed
[12:15] <aiena> hmm wait
[12:16] <aiena> stubkan: are you using btrfs?
[12:16] <stubkan> Wouldnt it have mentioned it when I did disk checking,  all the data seems fine  I can read and write any of it, it just goes to space 0 when I try to boot it up, cant see where the space went
[12:16] <aiena> stubkan: tye rereadig what you wrote it seems like the drive is ok
[12:16] <stubkan> btrfs?
[12:17] <aiena> stubkan: what are the filesystems in use for root and home?
[12:17] <aiena> is it ext4 on all?
[12:17] <aiena> is root and home in 1 partition?
[12:18] <stubkan> hang on trying to find the right command
[12:19] <stubkan> it seems boot is EFI, main drive is "linux filesystem" according to fdisk
[12:19] <aiena> stubkan: do you have a root shell can you give me output of the "df -T" command?
[12:20] <stubkan> it says /dev/nvme0n1p2 ext4     490691512 459948004   5748028  99% /media/mint/a322ed68-
[12:20] <stubkan> cant find the boot partition on that output
[12:20] <aiena> hmm ok so you are using ext4
[12:20] <aiena> that rules out btrfs
[12:20] <stubkan> There is one thing I think MAY have caused this
[12:20] <OceanGao> How can this strange problem appear?
[12:21] <stubkan> when I opened testdisk I selected UFI or EFI - the linux partition type ,possibly...  so I was thinking maybe selecting the wrong partition type somehow made it go wrong
[12:21] <EriC^^> stubkan: that shouldnt cause an issue unless you ended up writing anything in testdisk
[12:21] <aiena> stubkan: I don't think so you did not modify your filesystem
[12:21] <EriC^^> even then it shouldnt cause this
[12:22] <aiena> btrfs has snapshots so those could but ext4 has nothing.
[12:22] <stubkan> I couldnt see any files in testdisk, so I clicked c/C which it said was going to 'scan' for files and it progressed for 10 minutes or so before this happened
[12:22] <EriC^^> stubkan: did you add any weird commands to your startup? fallocate or something?
[12:22] <stubkan> does that count as modifying filesystem
[12:22] <aiena> EriC^^: also why is the mount point  /media/mint/a322ed68-
[12:23] <stubkan> its on a live usb
[12:23] <aiena> stubkan: are you doing this from a liveboot?
[12:23] <aiena> are makes sense
[12:23] <stubkan> I cant log in the system, disk space 0 so it wont let me log in
[12:23] <OceanGao> stubkan what if you run df -aT?
[12:23] <stubkan> lots of stuff on df -aT .,. want pastebin?
[12:23] <stubkan> or what should I look for in that
[12:24] <OceanGao> pastebin
[12:24] <EriC^^> stubkan: you could test the hdd health using smart test, sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/nvme0n1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:24] <stubkan> here https://imgur.com/a/2fnv003
[12:26] <aiena> stubkan: I would recommend installing "filelight" on the vm and running an analysis on your ssd
[12:26] <stubkan> whats the nc termbin.com 9999 gonna do
[12:27] <aiena> *err filelight on the liveboot
[12:27] <stubkan> its installing now
[12:27] <stubkan> If the disk space is going to 0 on startup, that probably means the disk capacity is being edited straight to 0 ...
[12:27] <EriC^^> stubkan: it sends the output to a pastebin
[12:28] <aiena> stubkan: that is unlikely it could be some malware creating junk or something else
[12:28] <stubkan> cos otherwise, file space shouldnt disappear this fast, even temporary files caching somewhere
[12:28] <stubkan> oh dear
[12:28] <aiena> either way a liveboot will allow you to poke through the filesystem
[12:29] <stubkan> hmm thats odd, filelight says 30GB free
[12:29] <aiena> i think your ssd is a 500GB ssd
[12:29] <aiena> oh boy he left
[12:33] <stubkan> I got disconnected
[12:34] <stubkan> There is a 90GB file,  image.dd  ... I think testdisk made this file and this broke my system, hoping its this simple ....  https://imgur.com/a/3QV66T1
[13:06] <silatel> how can i make my terminal on ubuntu look like the kali terminal?
[13:10] <holgersson> silatel: You would probably need the same terminal emulator and the same shell with special configurations.
[13:10] <holgersson> silatel: I think this article has a good explanation: https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/kali-linux-terminal-and-shell/
[13:11] <holgersson> silatel: and from there "By default, the terminal of Kali 2020.2 Linux is Qterminal and the Desktop environment is Xfce/Xfce server."
[13:12] <IIIFE> Hi there. How can I have a PPA package have higher priority over an official package from ubuntu 20.04?
[13:12] <holgersson> silatel: I never really used kali, so I don't know their TE well. What exactly do you want to copy? The optics? Maybe just some fancy transparent background?
[13:13] <holgersson> IIIFE: https://askubuntu.com/questions/293619/assign-higher-priority-to-ppa
[13:14] <holgersson> (untested though, but sounds valid)
[13:14] <IIIFE> Thank you holgersson
[13:14] <holgersson> yw
[13:29] <OceanGao> anyone can help with my problem?
[13:30] <silatel> holgersson i'm just trying to get my terminal to look exactly like kali's
[13:30] <silatel> holgersson: i saw that kali's desktop environment is Xfce/Xfce server. Is it possible to use that same one on ubuntu?
[13:31] <OceanGao> well, possible
[13:31] <holgersson> silatel: it is possible to run XFCE (it's just another desktop environment like KDE, Gnome etc.)
[13:31] <holgersson> silatel: what do you currently run?
[13:31] <OceanGao> xfce is available on apt-get
[13:32] <holgersson> silatel: anyways, if you just want the optics of that terminal, try out qterminal
[13:32] <holgersson> you can ofc mix programms from different desktop environments, as long as they are in the repositories.
[13:32] <IIIFE> You can install xubuntu to get xfce with ubuntu right out of the box.
[13:32] <silatel> holgersson: how do i see what i currently run? :D i just have ubuntu 20.04
[13:33] <silatel> holgersson: do i just apt-get xfce? how do i use it then?
[13:33] <holgersson> silatel: I guess it's "ubuntu budgie" then
[13:33] <silatel> holgersson: how can i check?
[13:33] <IIIFE> Install xfce and then log out and change your desktop session to xfce.
[13:33] <holgersson> silatel: good question, next one!
[13:33] <IIIFE> Because I"m assuming you're using a display manager like lightdm.
[13:34] <holgersson> silatel: seriously, just install qterminal and check if this is sufficient
[13:34] <silatel> could it break something? or is it safe to do it?
[13:34] <holgersson> it's safe
[13:34] <silatel> no no, because i want the whole kali theme, so if it's possible to do that then i will try
[13:34] <silatel> ok let me just check really fast and get back to you guys
[13:34] <silatel> and thank you so much for your help
[13:34] <holgersson> didn't help much, but you're welcome :D
[13:35] <OceanGao> well, if you want to run xfc on ubuntu, run sudo apt install xfce4 && sudo apt install xfce4-session
[13:35] <OceanGao> then run xfce4-session
[13:35] <holgersson> OceanGao: What's your problem? I only see your message "How can this strange problem appear?"
[13:35] <silatel> it tells me to choose display manager between gdm3 and lightdm
[13:35] <IIIFE> Just pick lightdm
[13:35] <IIIFE> Trust me
[13:35] <bbt3134> Is there a recommended way for preventing the use of `snap install` in a multitenant setup with less privileged users?
[13:36] <silatel> what's the difference?
[13:36] <IIIFE> I find lightdm to be lighter and snappier
[13:36] <OceanGao> holgersson I'm trying to run microsoft-edge on WSLg
[13:36] <IIIFE> gdm3 is too gnomey
[13:36] <silatel> ok
[13:36] <OceanGao> holgersson I tried to ask the same question on #ubuntu-on-windows
[13:36] <holgersson> OceanGao: What's your problem?
[13:36] <silatel> so after i install xfce4 and xfce4-session what do i do?
[13:37] <OceanGao> holgersson: Running microsoft-edge on WSLg failed
[13:37] <silatel> if i try to run xfce4-session it says another session manager is already running
[13:37] <holgersson> OceanGao: Wasn't the GUI support only planned?
[13:38] <IIIFE> Did you log out?
[13:38] <holgersson> OceanGao: ah, nvm, hence the trailing "g" in WSLg
[13:39] <silatel> if i log out then i can't use my pc
[13:39] <holgersson> OceanGao: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/the-initial-preview-of-gui-app-support-is-now-available-for-the-windows-subsystem-for-linux-2/
[13:40] <holgersson> OceanGao: With a "bare metal" installation with an X server you can set the environment variable:
[13:40] <holgersson> OceanGao: 'DISPLAY=:0 foo'
[13:41] <holgersson> I'd try it for the WSLg, too.
[13:41] <OceanGao> holgersson: I tried VcXsrV but it behaved badly
[13:42] <holgersson> silatel: Sure. However, log out, then you have a field somewhere to choose your desktop environment. Switch it to XFCE and log in with your user name and password as usual.
[13:42] <OceanGao> holgersson: Running microsoft-edge on WSLg outputs https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bzMZPFbRKG/
[13:42] <holgersson> silatel: When you are logged in you can start your IRC client as usual
[13:43] <holgersson> OceanGao: looks as no dbus daemon is running there
[13:43] <leftyfb> OceanGao: sorry, but what you're trying to do isn't supported officially. Best to wait in #ubuntu-on-windows for someone to help you
[13:44] <OceanGao> leftyfb: I tried asking this in #ubuntu-on-windows but no one replied for over an hour
[13:45] <holgersson> just an hour? You might need to wait for days in some IRC channels :D
[13:45] <brutamontes> I cant install LAMP on Ubuntu using tasksel.
[13:45] <brutamontes> WARNING: tempfile is deprecated; consider using mktemp instead.
[13:45] <brutamontes> tasksel: apt-get failed (100)
[13:45] <leftyfb> OceanGao: wait longer. Again, what you're trying to do is not officially supported. Also .... why? You're literally running Windows. Run their browser there
[13:46] <OceanGao> leftyfb: Nothing but a test for WSLg
[13:47] <leftyfb> OceanGao: for WSLg support, please see https://github.com/microsoft/wslg or contact Microsoft
[13:48] <leftyfb> brutamontes: please don't crosspost. What version of ubuntu are you running?
[13:49] <brutamontes> 21.04
[13:50] <leftyfb> brutamontes: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-20-04
[13:51] <leftyfb> brutamontes: also, if you're setting up a server for any serious hosting, I would recommend sticking with LTS releases like 20.04
[13:51] <brutamontes> i use tasksel
[13:51] <brutamontes> for years now
[13:51] <silatel> if i log out then i can't use my pc/part
[14:07] <mgedmin> wow, tasksel is brutal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/574287
[14:29] <mefistofeles> hey
[14:29] <mefistofeles> is ubuntu staying in freenode?
[14:30] <leftyfb> mefistofeles: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001923.html    any further discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:32] <mefistofeles> leftyfb: thanks
[14:37] <varaindemian> what tool can I use/do you recommend to backup and restore os (in case of various errors) right from a live usb?
[14:39] <leftyfb> varaindemian: I recommend a fresh install and using something like rsync to copy your file back. You can also use something like ansible to script rebuilding all your installed packages and configurations
[14:45] <varaindemian> leftyfb: I thought there could be something like this..
[14:46] <varaindemian> something else*
[14:50] <DJones> =
[14:50] <Chunkyz> varaindemian: clone zilla works well, too.
[14:56] <varaindemian> Chunkyz: I though I could just get a compressed backup and then restore it from a live bootable drive
[14:56] <Chunkyz> varaindemian: clonze zilla compresses...
[15:15] <node1> Hello is there anyway to recover an files from previous installed ubuntu ?
[15:15] <varaindemian> Chunkyz: cool
[15:26] <Nokaji> Hi, am planning a dual install on a WIN laptop (adding Ubuntu) ... for a USB installer I'm looking at either 'Rufus' (used before - yrs ago, and seems the most recommended) or 'Universal-USB-Installer-2.0.0.4' ... just wondered if it matters much which one I go with?
[15:31] <leftyfb> Nokaji: for use on Windows use Win32 Disk Imager or etcher.io
[15:33] <Nokaji> I'll take a look at those leftyfb , thanks
[15:36] <__infinity> Hello
[15:39] <__infinity> I have `Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS` and 256.1 GB disk, I just got a notification, that I exceeded the file space: "No space left on device"
[15:39] <__infinity> although I literally have no data at all
[15:40] <__infinity> Tried `df -ha` and it says `/dev/mapper/vgubuntu-root  232G  221G     0 100% /`
[15:42] <__infinity> Could anyone help, I have no idea what is taking all that space
[15:44] <leftyfb> __infinity: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:47] <__infinity> https://termbin.com/knr5
[15:47] <Nokaji> __infinity, I'd take a look at temp files, sometimes they don't get removed and can occupy many GBs
[15:47] <ogra> sudo du -hcs /tmp/*
[15:48] <ogra> that will list the dirs under /tmp and their size
[15:48] <__infinity> https://termbin.com/xe8h
[15:49] <ogra> doesnt look too full to me ...
[15:49] <ogra> try the same command with /var/* inszead of /tmp/*
[15:51] <__infinity> hmm it got stuck
[15:52] <__infinity> ohh so it's `122G	/var/lib`
[15:52] <ogra> it might take a while if there are really 200+ GB
[15:54] <__infinity> https://termbin.com/ahka
[15:56] <node1> Can i recover my old operating system files and data using Onekey recover option in Lenevo laptop?
[15:56] <__infinity> ah it's docker `117G	/var/lib/docker`
[15:56] <__infinity> can I just `rm -rf /var/lib/docker` ?
[15:57]  * ogra doesnt touch docker ... can't tell ... i use lxd 
[15:58] <ogra> but there you definitely have a space hog  ...
[15:58] <__infinity> yeah it's like half of my disk, and I don't have anything running, I always delete the containers after using them
[16:04] <isomari> greetings, Can I change ethernet device name using systemd rather than udev?
[16:07] <__infinity> anyway thank you for help, I moved to #docker to figure out how to clean it up
[16:07] <ogra> 👍
[16:21] <questi> :)
[16:21] <questi> sudo unattender-upgrade -d System is on metered connection, stopping
[16:22] <questi> why :)
[16:23] <leftyfb> questi: unattender-upgrade is not a valid command
[16:23] <leftyfb> questi: are you referring to do-release-upgrade?
[16:27] <__infinity> ogra, `sudo docker system prune -a -f` = `Total reclaimed space: 115.4GB` :)
[16:27] <ogra> ah, if i ever use docker 🙂
[16:27]  * ogra hugs lxd
[16:35] <questi> leftyfb: is it its part of unnatended upgrades package
[16:35] <questi> *it is
[16:35] <leftyfb> questi: please pastebin the exact command you are using and it's output
[17:34] <freckledp> If I want to have a host recognize all certs signed by a CA, do I just have to import the CA cert, or do I need the key, too?
[17:52] <renatosilva> why ubuntu server is the only one I can't manage to get keys revoked? http://vpaste.net/D1MpM
[17:56] <enyc> freckledp: CA cert only... context matter though... when you say 'host'
[17:56] <enyc> freckledp: e.g. firefox thunderbird havetheir own certificate stores generally
[17:56] <enyc> freckledp: e.g. putting into the /usr/share/ca-certificates / /etc/ssl/certs  and "update-ca-certificates"  system is another matter
[17:57] <enyc> freckledp: e.g. there is a "ca-cacert" package that provides CAcert in that form....
[17:57] <DJones> renatosilva: What version of Ubuntu is it? Looking at the dates on the RSa Keys are 2012 and 2016, which makes me think its an old version of Ubuntu that you're checking against
[17:57] <enyc> some programs have options to take extra AC certificatse o0 custom certificate path when using the program ... etc
[17:58] <freckledp> enyc, Thanks for the information. That answers my question.
[17:58] <renatosilva> DJones: it's a key server, not a distro installation
[17:58] <DJones> renatosilva: Yeah, just realised that
[17:59] <renatosilva> DJones: :P
[17:59] <renatosilva> ubuntu server is the only one that doesn't report the keys as revoked, no matter what
[18:02] <Learner2> apt get upgrade deleted all grub entries except memtest
[18:12] <metbsd> is there way to downgrade from 21.04 to 2004 lts
[18:21] <alnassafi> Hi
[18:28] <oerheks> metbsd, no, reinstall.
[19:33] <jhutchins> Learner2: What were you upgrading?
[19:54] <metbsd> downgrade ubuntu anyone?
[19:54] <oerheks> answered you, metbsd
[19:54] <oerheks> metbsd, no, reinstall.
[19:54] <sarnold> metbsd: it's best to consider that as not possible; deb packages aren't packaged with downgrades as a goal. many packages will downgrade iwthout problem, but not all
[19:55] <oerheks> or read the long answer :-D
[19:55] <oerheks> thnx sarnold
[19:55] <leftyfb> metbsd: the more important question, why do you want to?
[19:56] <metbsd> 21.04 got stuck all the time
[19:56] <metbsd> vnc not working properly too
[19:57] <metbsd> i'll stay in lts forever
[19:57] <oerheks> 21.04 gives wayland standard as session, change back to xorg?
[19:57] <metbsd> vnc only works in xorg anyway
[19:57] <leftyfb> metbsd: have you tried switching to xorg?
[19:57] <metbsd> i always use xorg for vnc
[19:58] <metbsd> i have a couple 21.04. one using xorg and vnc doesn't work. one using wayland and got stuck all the time
[19:59] <metbsd> it got stuck when i switch task
[19:59] <leftyfb> metbsd: it's up to you if you want to spend the time detailing and troubleshooting each individual issue you have with 21.04 here or just reinstall with 20.04
[20:00] <leftyfb> metbsd: I always recommend LTS over non-LTS
[20:05] <jhutchins> metbsd: It would be good to report the bugs before you downgrade.
[20:06] <PeGaSuS> hi. on my ubuntu server, after generating my publickey with `ssh_keygen` and no passphrase when I try to `ssh-copy-id user@localhost` I'l hitting a "user@loaclhost: Permission denied (publickey)."
[20:06] <PeGaSuS> zany ideas?
[20:06] <PeGaSuS> -z
[20:06] <PeGaSuS> s/ssh_keygen/ssh-keygen/
[20:06] <leftyfb> PeGaSuS: do you have password authentication disabled on the server?
[20:07] <metbsd> i have zero trouble in lts except some missing package
[20:07] <metbsd> but i can tolerate that
[20:07] <PeGaSuS> good question...
[20:07] <metbsd> for example, fcitx5-configtool is missing in lts
[20:07] <PeGaSuS> lemme check
[20:09] <PeGaSuS> leftyfb, stupid me -_-; I actually didn't even remembered about that
[20:09] <PeGaSuS> turning on apssword auth worked
[20:09] <PeGaSuS> s/apssword/password/
[20:09] <PeGaSuS> thanks!
[20:11] <jhutchins> PeGaSuS: It looks like you're trying to overwrite the public key.
[20:16] <Learner2> jhutI don't remeber, i think it wewas linux kernel
[20:17] <joyfulCitrus> :Cannot send to nick/channel
[20:17] <joyfulCitrus> whats that error message all about?
[20:17] <joyfulCitrus> I've registered and identified with sasl identification
[20:17] <sarnold> joyfulCitrus: it means the channel is moderated in some form
[20:18] <joyfulCitrus> o ok
[20:18] <joyfulCitrus> so are my messages going through?
[20:18] <sarnold> these are, yes
[20:18] <sarnold> in whatever channel you're talking about, probably not
[20:19] <joyfulCitrus> o
[20:19] <JoeLlama> Okay I got into some mode in xubuntu when I move the cursor the whole screen shifts and moves and also the screen is larger in size.  It seems to be a good thing for certain things I do but...  how do I turn it off?  Ready, set, GO! :)
[20:19] <JoeLlama> what's the trick? (:
[20:20] <genkgo> Hello. I have a question on Netplan. I want to add a second interface, but I only want it to work for applications that specifically want to use it. My OS should by default use the other interface. I did manage to get it to work, but then it becomes the default interface.
[20:21] <JoeLlama> move the mouse or touch the track pad, cursor moves, entire screen shifts slowly in the opposite direction of cursor movement...  some kind of accessability option?
[20:22] <sarnold> JoeLlama: is it zoomed in, like a magnifier around a portion of it?
[20:22] <JoeLlama> yup kinda sarnold
[20:22] <JoeLlama> it is
[20:23] <JoeLlama> what is the name of the application that controls that please?
[20:23] <sarnold> JoeLlama: there's a feature in X11 called "viewport" that lets you have eg a 1600x1200 display on a monitor that can only do 1024x768 and it'll just slide around the visible area
[20:23] <JoeLlama> I will actually look
[20:23] <JoeLlama> oh?
[20:23] <sarnold> JoeLlama: but that viewport mode doesn't do any zooming
[20:23] <JoeLlama> yes it's sliding around in the visable area
[20:25] <JoeLlama> it is not accessibility it's not enabled
[20:25] <JoeLlama> I do have NVidia software lemme check that...  thanks for the help sarnold
[20:25] <sarnold> JoeLlama: there's probably half-dozen or more screen magnifiers, and they may not all be configured in the same place
[20:26] <sarnold> JoeLlama: poke around ps auxw output, look for anything with 'x' in the name :)
[20:26] <JoeLlama> hrm
[20:26] <sarnold> JoeLlama: https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/290758/7064   -- this mentions an easy way to get the 'panning' feature, the viewport thing, with modern tools; if it's this, then this might be an easy way to undo it, too
[20:26] <JoeLlama> well I did not install any magifier thingies and this is xubuntu straight install
[20:27] <JoeLlama> ok I look
[20:27] <JoeLlama> it's not in display settings
[20:27] <sarnold> genkgo: I think what you want is this metric setting https://netplan.io/examples/#using-multiple-addresses-with-multiple-gateways
[20:28] <JoeLlama> sarnold, the movement of the screen makes you kinda seasick after a while :(
[20:30] <JoeLlama> I am thinking just reboot later :)  done for now...
[20:30] <sarnold> JoeLlama: yeah, I didn't use that viewport mode much back in the day ;)
[20:31] <JoeLlama> dunno if it is viewport...  how do you access viewport sarnold?
[20:32] <JoeLlama> I dunwanna learn anything (:
[20:36] <sarnold> JoeLlama: check xrandr output
[20:36] <sarnold> JoeLlama: maybe it says something
[20:41] <jayjo> in wireshark, I'm now able to trace USB CCID packets, got it working OK, but I'm confused by the USB source and dest numbering. They are Bus.Device.<SomeOtherNumber> ... is this an interface number? I'm trying to find something in the usb or linux docs about it. lsusb will show my device as Bus 005 Dev 004, but then I have to match all 5.4.* source and dests. Feels like I'm missing something
[20:44] <JoeLlama> sarnold how do you check xrandr output?
[21:46] <bancroft> is there a way to have systemd run a command with ptrace capability (and without full blown sudo) ?
[22:01] <Shillos> Is this channel also moving over to the new irc network of libera.chat after what happened here on freenode?
[22:06] <guntbert> Shillos: not yet - the decision takes time for such a big (and complicated :-)) community
[22:06] <Habbie> Shillos, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001922.html
[22:07] <Shillos> ok thx
[22:07] <Shillos> thx for the link
[22:10] <znpy> hello there, quick question: i mistakenly deleted /etc/pulse, and now i'm trying to get its default content from packages. I tried `apt install --reinstall` but nope, i can't find the debs (they used to stay in `/var/cache/apt` iirc) ... does somebody has a suggestion ?
[22:34] <rfm> znpy, just fetch the deb with "apt-get download pulseaudio" ?
[22:34] <znpy> rfm: yup i did download the deb in the end... although i browsed the repo url
[22:35] <znpy> i forgot about apt-get download
[22:35] <znpy> thanks!
[22:36] <nezxan> znpy: was about to paste the files for you :P
[22:36] <nezxan> glad it worked out
[22:36] <nezxan> (since my pulse conf should be stock anyway)
[22:36] <znpy> thanks nezxan :) very kind of you!
[22:37] <ComCat> IMPORTANT NOTICE: Hi Ops. Please update the topic to point to the new server (libera.chat). Thank you. Current situation: crown prince of korea and co-founder of MtGox (bitcoin exit-scam) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Lee_(entrepreneur) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox#Bankruptcy;_stolen_bitcoin_(2014%E2%80%93ongoing) - has now full control over Freenode and has destaffed ALL the staffers you knew. The staffers have founded and
[22:37] <ComCat> moved to Libera.chat. Sponsors of Freenode are beginning to pull out, it is unknown for how long the freenode will be stable. Most channels, projects and users are now migrating to Libera. Libera is a registered non-profit organization with mitigations against this disaster happening ever again. Leaked chats showing disgusting intents and former devs that have worked with Mr.Lee before says that he's disorganized, dishonest and that they wish to
[22:37] <ComCat> never work with him again (he managed to scam freenode out of our hands and he lied to the staffers). All officiall freenode channels are now currently under complete censorship. https://distfiles.dereferenced.org/stuff/nirvana-log.txt  - https://paste.sr.ht/~ircwright/7e751d2162e4eb27cba25f6f8893c1f38930f7c4 - Please update your topic to point to the new server if you haven't done so already. This message is to inform the users about the
[22:37] <ComCat> situation if the topic is set already. Spread this message too.
[22:37] <nezxan> ComCat: go away
[22:37] <nezxan> and stop your spam
[22:38] <znpy> (i'm on libera.chat already btw, and the #ubuntu channel seems to be alive there too)
[22:39] <znpy> anyway... i messed up my /etc/pulse while trying to troubleshoot my bluetooth headset
[22:39] <znpy> it worked but i was unable to use the a2dp audio source
[22:39] <znpy> whatever, i'll keep looking at that...
[22:39] <znpy> thanks so far!
[22:41] <leftyfb> !ops | feel free to escort ComCat out at your leisure
[23:17] <RoDiMuS-X> alias MyNewAlias { echo Yes fucker }
[23:23] <Shillos> start the move guys see you on the new network