| KittyTrouble | *Sighs* I'm back | 00:04 |
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| KittyTrouble | So in recap.... Last night I messed up the partitions for windows and now it won't boot at all | 00:05 |
| KittyTrouble | Today I bought a DVD burner and tried booting off DVD, no luck | 00:05 |
| KittyTrouble | The external hard drive works just fine, I am using it on my laptop to run live ubuntu right now, but my desktop won't detect it | 00:06 |
| KittyTrouble | So any suggestions to un-brick my desktop? | 00:06 |
| KittyTrouble | There's an onboard network boot option, I don't know if that can be used somehow | 00:07 |
| nezxan | KittyTrouble: how is it an ubuntu question? | 00:09 |
| KittyTrouble | I was trying to get help installing ubuntu last night but I messed everything up | 00:09 |
| nezxan | KittyTrouble: so you wanted to dual boot and bricked your install and now windows won't boot? | 00:10 |
| nezxan | ^ let's hope it is | 00:11 |
| KittyTrouble | Actually I don't want to dual boot at all but my desktop was saying boot device not available for my external hard drive so we were going with the attempted dual boot option. My partitions got screwed and it won't load anything now | 00:11 |
| KittyTrouble | I then bought a dvd burner and it's not reading that either | 00:11 |
| KittyTrouble | Though, technically the boot options do say "onboard CD" not dvd so maybe thats the problem | 00:12 |
| nezxan | I don't understand your situation at all from all this | 00:12 |
| nezxan | KittyTrouble: nothing is booting? | 00:13 |
| KittyTrouble | My current situation is that I am trying to install ubuntu. In the boot menu, when I choose USB device as the boot option it says no boot device available. When I choose onboard/external CD as the boot option it says no boot device available. And since I screwed windows up nothing is working | 00:13 |
| KittyTrouble | There's an option for onboard network as a boot option | 00:13 |
| nezxan | how did you create the usb device | 00:14 |
| KittyTrouble | rufus | 00:14 |
| KittyTrouble | I know that the device isn't the problem, I'm using it on my second computer now | 00:14 |
| nezxan | KittyTrouble: reset the bios, maybe update the firmware while you're at it, double and triple check the usb device, re-create it (using dd preferably, and never found something easier for that), and try again | 00:15 |
| KittyTrouble | How can I do that when nothing loads? | 00:15 |
| nezxan | you have a second computer ; nothing boots means you can still access the BIOS? | 00:16 |
| nezxan | most likely it's pressing DEL on start up | 00:16 |
| KittyTrouble | I can still access the bios. | 00:16 |
| KittyTrouble | We messed up the partitions trying to install ubuntu and now it won't load windows | 00:17 |
| nezxan | KittyTrouble: above you said your current situation was you wanted to install ubuntu and it wouldn't boot from usb and the stick is fine apparently | 00:18 |
| nezxan | reset the bios, check the usb stick, re-create it, update the firmware of the BIOS (if possible), double triple check your bios boot settings, and boot from usb | 00:18 |
| eelstrebor | is there a way to "mirror" a samsung phone to a laptop or pc usings samsung's dex? | 00:19 |
| KittyTrouble | It's an externak hard drive not a usb stick but yeah | 00:19 |
| nezxan | KittyTrouble: you're trying to install using an external hard drive? | 00:19 |
| KittyTrouble | I have an externa hard drive with the ubuntu iso stuff on it | 00:20 |
| KittyTrouble | And I have a dvd with the ubuntu iso stuff on it | 00:20 |
| nezxan | KittyTrouble: is the hard drive completely clean? | 00:20 |
| eelstrebor | or via hdmi | 00:20 |
| KittyTrouble | It had windows 10 on it but we messed up the partitions | 00:20 |
| nezxan | sp you mean you've installed ubuntu ON the external hard drive? or you have the iso on the external hard drive and you expect to boot from it? | 00:21 |
| KittyTrouble | I have the iso on the usb hard drive and I want to use it to install ubuntu on my regular hard drive | 00:21 |
| nezxan | eelstrebor: a quick online search says samsung dex is available for windows and mac | 00:21 |
| nezxan | KittyTrouble: k, use a usb stick you can wipe 100% clean for this | 00:22 |
| nezxan | it's the simplest solution | 00:22 |
| KittyTrouble | It'd be a waste of money, there's nothing wrong with the drive, it's working to live boot my laptop into ubuntu | 00:22 |
| elios | dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/usb, then boot with the usb stick. | 00:23 |
| amazoniantoad | Is there any *simple* email server I can set up for ubuntu? I've tried several solutions/tutorials and none of them appear to work. Can anyone point me to a tutorial that is reliable to work? I have a vps and can install multiple versions of ubuntu | 00:23 |
| KittyTrouble | We already did that last night. My desktop is not detecting the USB nor the DVD as a bootable device | 00:24 |
| nezxan | KittyTrouble: so the external hard drive you can boot from it in conjunction with your laptop but not the pc you want to actually install on | 00:24 |
| elios | did you check bios options? | 00:24 |
| KittyTrouble | yes | 00:24 |
| nezxan | reset the BIOS on your PC, update the firmware, double and triple check the boot settings | 00:24 |
| panickedthumb | How did you get to the point of messing up the partitions if you couldn't get into the installer | 00:24 |
| nezxan | and double and triple check the device you try to boot from | 00:24 |
| KittyTrouble | Used unetbootin on drive c | 00:25 |
| panickedthumb | Ooohhh ok | 00:25 |
| elios | bot 'drive c', it uses the whole disk. | 00:25 |
| panickedthumb | The only thing that makes sense is something is wonky with your bios not detecting bootable devices properly | 00:25 |
| elios | er, not* | 00:25 |
| panickedthumb | Resetting and double checking is defnitely step 1 | 00:26 |
| elios | the image gets extracted on the whole disk or usb drive | 00:26 |
| elios | with the file system on the iso | 00:26 |
| KittyTrouble | OMG | 00:27 |
| KittyTrouble | It detected the new external DVD burner that I bought, yay! | 00:27 |
| KittyTrouble | But not the internal one | 00:27 |
| elios | you can't dd it into a partition only the whole disk | 00:27 |
| nezxan | elios: who knows what he did, but whatever it is he said he can boot from the hard drive on another machine | 00:28 |
| elios | can you hookup the burner? | 00:28 |
| nezxan | elios: so let's assume he did that part right as he refuses to visit that step, well I have to do some stuff anyways | 00:28 |
| KittyTrouble | Yeah thats what I'm doing now, it seems to be loading | 00:28 |
| elios | nice | 00:28 |
| KittyTrouble | I'm not refusing anything... What I did yesterday is redundant | 00:29 |
| KittyTrouble | Because it's about detecting devices | 00:29 |
| elios | nezxan: sometimes you have to use dd or unetbootin a second time | 00:29 |
| elios | it happens | 00:29 |
| nezxan | elios: yes I know, I sometimes have trouble with that myself, I usually use dd, sometimes it doesn't seem to work and I end up doing it again | 00:30 |
| elios | it also can be of an old usb stick | 00:30 |
| elios | because* | 00:30 |
| nezxan | it certainly shouldn't be a problem with dd, it just seems wonky, probably more due to flash drives which suck yeah | 00:30 |
| elios | right | 00:31 |
| KittyTrouble | It's so weird though that it's detecting my DVD burner plugged in vis USB but not the internal one | 00:32 |
| KittyTrouble | Whatever | 00:32 |
| eelstrebor | nezxan, roger | 00:33 |
| nezxan | eelstrebor: winehq rating for it sucks as well | 00:33 |
| KittyTrouble | Installation off this DVD is gonna be so slow, I can see it now o.o | 00:34 |
| KittyTrouble | It's taking forever | 00:34 |
| elios | splash screen? | 00:34 |
| panickedthumb | It's not so b ad once you get booted but it can take a minute to boot for sure | 00:34 |
| nezxan | eelstrebor: you should look into the problem from the perspective of simply backing up an android device on linux https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=back+up+android+device+linux&ia=web | 00:34 |
| nezxan | eelstrebor: pretty sure there's a way | 00:34 |
| KittyTrouble | It's on the ubuntu loading circle yeah | 00:34 |
| elios | great | 00:35 |
| nezxan | always a shock to me when I try out something via vm, and end up doing it on hardware and have to deal with slow write/read speeds :P | 00:35 |
| eelstrebor | nezxan, i'm looking for ways to mirror the phone to a pc (and to a car audio system display) | 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | 00:36 | |
| panickedthumb | You mean mirror the display! I figured you were talking about a filesystem mirror | 00:36 |
| nezxan | me too | 00:37 |
| nezxan | eelstrebor: android car exists ofc, it | 00:39 |
| nezxan | 's pretty bad though (my experience) | 00:39 |
| panickedthumb | scrcpy will let you do that. Not sure about your car's nav system but your linux desktop | 00:39 |
| nezxan | eelstrebor: but I guess it's more of a thing to ask android geeks rather than here, hope you will get it working | 00:39 |
| panickedthumb | https://darkhunts.com/remotely-control-android/ | 00:39 |
| nezxan | panickedthumb: damn looks interesting, almost want to try scrcpy myself now :P | 00:40 |
| panickedthumb | I haven't used it in ages so I can't really vouch for it | 00:40 |
| maxFlexGuest | I am running a QEMU virtual machine with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. How can I connect to the internet (will I need to change host or guest IP addresses or run ifconfig)? | 01:00 |
| maxFlexGuest | So far, I could not run ifconfig on my virtual machine. Since I am not connected to QEMU internet, I am unable to apt install net-tools. | 01:02 |
| nezxan | if QEMU is configured properly it should just work afaik, virtualbox user myself, so I can't help, maybe someone else will | 01:02 |
| nezxan | but should be an issue with QEMU, ubuntu auto-configures to use the net. never had that happen to me | 01:03 |
| maxFlexGuest | With my Ubuntu 20.04 LTS QEMU machine, the internet worked without error on only one IP address, but not on the other. | 01:22 |
| KittyTrouble | Ubuntus beenstuck on the install screen for over an hour, how do I know if its doing something or hanging? Its on the screen where it says welcome to ubuntu and lets me scroll through the feartures | 02:39 |
| sarnold | KittyTrouble: try logging into another virtual console with control+alt+f3 or something, and run top or ps auxw and see if it's got processes that look like it's doing anything | 02:40 |
| sarnold | KittyTrouble: maybe try all the virtual consoles, I think I remember the installer put a log on one of them | 02:40 |
| KittyTrouble22 | That took me to another terminal window | 02:43 |
| KittyTrouble22 | Idk how to get out of it | 02:43 |
| KittyTrouble22 | or what to do | 02:44 |
| KittyTrouble22 | Guess I'm rebooting | 02:45 |
| sarnold | KittyTrouble22: control + alt + f1 through f7 or f8 or so swap to different virtual consoles | 02:46 |
| KittyTrouble22 | And how do you exit out of it | 02:47 |
| sarnold | hit them all until you return to the installer screen | 02:48 |
| KittyTrouble22 | It's whatever, I'm gonna keep screwing this up | 02:49 |
| KittyTrouble22 | Should just drop it off somewhere and have them do it for me | 02:49 |
| tatertots | that'd only be feasible if "somewhere" actually existed in real life | 02:55 |
| tatertots | KittyTrouble22: did you at least obtain some USB flash drive in the last couple days you've been trying to install an operating system? | 02:56 |
| tatertots | KittyTrouble22: still no USB flash drive probably eh | 02:56 |
| KittyTrouble22 | I've told you that it won't read them. It won't read the internal DVD-rom drive either. But I got an external DVD burner and it boots off that | 03:03 |
| KittyTrouble22 | So there's progress on that front | 03:03 |
| KittyTrouble22 | Maybe you guys can help me from this point on because I'm still having partition problems | 03:04 |
| KittyTrouble22 | I only want to install ubuntu only and get rid of everything | 03:04 |
| KittyTrouble22 | Should I do "try ubuntu" first like we did last night? | 03:04 |
| KittyTrouble22 | tatertots btw it isnt a problem with my external hard drive as it live boots into ubuntu from it just fine on my other laptop | 03:05 |
| KittyTrouble22 | it's just this crappy desktop that is being picky | 03:06 |
| KittyTrouble22 | Okay it seems to not be stuck on that screen now | 03:16 |
| KittyTrouble22 | and actually doing stuff | 03:16 |
| tatertots | KittyTrouble22: are you starting with a "clean slate" meaning a disk that shows only "unallocated space"? probably not | 03:21 |
| tatertots | KittyTrouble22: you're probably starting from a "dirtY" slate (opposite of clean slate) | 03:21 |
| KittyTrouble22 | I deleted all the partitions, made a new one the entire size of the hard disk, and I'm installing now | 03:22 |
| tatertots | KittyTrouble22: yesterday was unsuccessful for you, so repeating the events of the failures of yesterday may not be in your best interests | 03:22 |
| tatertots | KittyTrouble22: why are YOU making a new anything, let the installer do all the heavy lifting...get out of your own way by minimizing the parts your hands are involved in | 03:23 |
| tatertots | KittyTrouble22: clean slate...you do nothing but click NEXT and let the installer do everything | 03:23 |
| KittyTrouble22 | I tried that and it was giving an unmounting problem still which didnt make sense to me, this time it isnt | 03:24 |
| tatertots | KittyTrouble22: ....so you're installing now eh? with the hand made partitioning you have decided to do | 03:25 |
| tatertots | KittyTrouble22: report back if success or failure | 03:25 |
| KittyTrouble22 | I still chose to delete everything, I just removed the extra partitions first | 03:25 |
| tatertots | KittyTrouble22: report back if success or failure | 03:25 |
| KittyTrouble22 | ok | 03:25 |
| KittyTrouble22 | i have a feeling its gonna work this time, it hasnt given me problems yet | 03:25 |
| tatertots | 1=success 0=failure nothing more...nothing less | 03:25 |
| KittyTrouble22 | you're being a little rude | 03:26 |
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| KittyTrouble | Seems to be a 1 | 03:41 |
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| hwdyki | i'm getting this error when running apt -y install build-essential https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sP3dHM9mhb/ | 04:12 |
| tripelb | tomreyn, if you see this. Heard first beeps, checked temps with sensors (all set up thanks to you) and it wasnt hot. Well done. ... close to bed for me so this is a notice for you about my process. The issue is the computer slows down to not useful looks frozen but mouse moves sometime. this time I could logout and I did. that must mean something. It is going so far. enough | 04:35 |
| hwdyki | is the ubuntu repo broken? | 04:39 |
| hwdyki | apt -y install libc6-dev | 04:39 |
| hwdyki | libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.31-0ubuntu9.2) but 2.31-0ubuntu9.3 is to be installed | 04:39 |
| hwdyki | this is 20.04 | 04:40 |
| oerheks | hwdyki, did you run updates properly before this action? | 04:42 |
| oerheks | actually, i do not see 9.3 in focal https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+package/libc6-dev | 04:43 |
| Bashing-om | hwdyki: oerheks: A packageing error ? apt depends libc6-dev | 04:44 |
| oerheks | i have no proposed enabled.. maybe that is biting? | 04:44 |
| Arg-Patagonia-b | hello! | 04:46 |
| Bashing-om | apt depends libc6-dev >> Depends: libc6 (= 2.31-0ubuntu9.2) - but apt list libc6 >> now 2.31-0ubuntu9.3 ? | 04:46 |
| Arg-Patagonia-b | I have a Software question. But i dont know if this is the rigth place... | 04:47 |
| oerheks | libc6-dev | 04:47 |
| oerheks | Arg-Patagonia-b, ask away if it is related to ubuntu | 04:47 |
| Arg-Patagonia-b | I use Ubuntu server, Whithout GUI. I need to run an ERP software. Perhaps some TUI ERP... | 04:48 |
| Arg-Patagonia-b | But never heard about one... some ideas? | 04:48 |
| hwdyki | i think it's related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1926918 | 04:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1926918 in glibc (Ubuntu) "cannot install libc6-dev, requires old libc6 version" [Undecided,In progress] | 04:49 |
| oerheks | erp-next server? https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-install-erpnext-erp-system-on-ubuntu/ | 04:49 |
| Arg-Patagonia-b | Thanks. I will check. | 04:50 |
| oerheks | Current version of libc6:amd64 in Focal is 2.31-0ubuntu9.3 | 04:50 |
| oerheks | no, it is not. | 04:50 |
| oerheks | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+package/libc6-dev | 04:50 |
| oerheks | is there anything special about your install? added i386 archtecture? | 04:51 |
| oerheks | at the end of your bugreport, suggested that you should downgrade libc6 .. some regression in 9.3 | 04:52 |
| Arg-Patagonia-b | ERP-NEXT need GUI for clients... this is a stand alone server. No GUI installed. | 04:54 |
| Arg-Patagonia-b | any alternatives? | 04:54 |
| oerheks | i think it is web based, that guide shows login http://0.0.0.0:8000 or http://your ip:8000 | 04:55 |
| Arg-Patagonia-b | ok | 04:58 |
| hwdyki | i ran apt dist-upgrade a few weeks ago and it got updated to 2.31-ubuntu9.3 | 05:01 |
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| mrkubax10 | will #ubuntu move to libera.chat? | 07:47 |
| ducasse | mrkubax10: aiui the cc has recommended it, but the final decision has not been made yet | 07:59 |
| mrkubax10 | ok | 08:04 |
| ducasse | my guess is the will, though, their namespace is currently blocked from registration on libera | 08:09 |
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| diverdude | hi...if i change nameserver /etc/resolv.conf it works for a short period and then its overwritten again...how do i permanently change DNS via cli? | 11:17 |
| TheBigK | diverdude: it depends on what it is controlled by | 11:53 |
| TheBigK | usually u use networkmanager for that matter... if ur using a desktop | 11:54 |
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| bodiccea | On 20.10, I compiled kernel 5.12.3 (make bindeb-pkg), installed the .deb, and booted on new kernel. What happens, is that Ubuntu then asked me to remove one of its own kernels, meaning I get only the 3 last Ubuntu kernels instead of usual 4. I am afraid that if I continue, and install another kernel (let say 5.12.5), I could be left with only 2 Ubuntu kernel, and so on... Where could I configure the number of kernels I would like to keep when a new | 12:16 |
| bodiccea | one comes ? For instance I would like to keep 8 instead of 4 ? | 12:16 |
| bodiccea | I found this: https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-keep-old-kernels/, I made it, and will see what happens after my next custom kernel install. | 12:35 |
| tdm4 | hi got a question.. 18.04 box, apparmoring php-fpm for my application and I get this whenever php-fpm starts/restarts: audit: type=1400 audit(1621591940.990:503): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="file_mmap" profile="/usr/sbin/php-fpm7.3" name="/" pid=9183 comm="php-fpm7.3" requested_mask="wr" denied_mask="wr" fsuid=0 ouid=0 | 13:05 |
| tdm4 | any ideas why this is happening? Why does it want read and write access to "/"? | 13:05 |
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| V1A | how can i access/view logs? | 14:27 |
| V1A | the pc shutdown or crashed something odd | 14:27 |
| dust | https://libera.chat/chanreg#community-registration | 14:29 |
| dust | should be done for all ubuntu channels imho | 14:29 |
| leftyfb | dust: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001923.html it's in the planning stages | 14:34 |
| tdm4 | dust: has this channel moved to libera.chat? | 14:35 |
| leftyfb | tdm4: please see the link I just posted. It's being actively worked on | 14:36 |
| Maik | leftyfb: the downside at the moment is a lot of channels already have been created, so the ubuntu folks need to claim them | 14:46 |
| dust | i dont see a problem in this as i think they just reserved the channels | 14:47 |
| dust | and will give it freely to ubuntu | 14:47 |
| dust | did that for a channel too... not ubuntu related... | 14:48 |
| leftyfb | Maik: interesting. The other day I tried and got "[10:51:05] -ChanServ- The #ubuntu namespace is registered to the ubuntu project, so only authorized contacts may register new channels." | 14:49 |
| leftyfb | Maik: but today it looks like I'm able to | 14:50 |
| Maik | i guess that's good then :) | 14:50 |
| leftyfb | It did say this after. Does it recognize me as being an ubuntu member without the cloak? "The #ubuntu namespace is managed by the ubuntu project." | 14:51 |
| Maik | hmmm... | 14:51 |
| sybariten | oh hai! | 15:53 |
| sybariten | This could be a CUPS issue, but anyhow here goes. I'm tryuingf to compile a driver for a thermal printer. The driver is specifically for this printer (and some others) according to the manufacturer, Star, who also supplied the driver archive along with detailed instructions. | 15:54 |
| sybariten | I'm on Ubuntu 18.04 and when i try to "make" the aforementioned driver, i get this outpuit: https://pastebin.com/1ravSmgy | 15:54 |
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| lesshaste | This is an odd question but how can I print a pdf? I am in evince and see no print option | 16:39 |
| cousteau | I'll be honest, I much preferred the old interface with menus | 16:39 |
| lesshaste | cousteau, is that about evince? | 16:40 |
| cousteau | Yep | 16:40 |
| jaffachief | lesshaste: Hamburger menu -> printer icon? | 16:40 |
| cousteau | Anyway, it's on the button next to Close | 16:41 |
| lesshaste | jaffachief, oh I see it! | 16:41 |
| lesshaste | that is quite annoying but thank you | 16:41 |
| cousteau | ...oh, the menu has pictures now? Ugh... | 16:41 |
| jaffachief | lesshaste: no problem | 16:41 |
| jaffachief | C-p still works too | 16:42 |
| lesshaste | yes I did ctrl-p but it's very weird to have a list of options that excludes printing and then a printing icon at the top | 16:42 |
| sybariten | just wanted to say that my earlier question about a compile problem of a driver has been resolvedf by getting a more current version | 16:51 |
| ktwo | Hi, im looking for the command which is executed when changing fractional scaling from 100% to like 150% . Basically im trying to set something like 80% on ubuntu 21.04 | 17:21 |
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| lordcirth | I'm not sure 80% is possible | 17:28 |
| ktwo | lordcirth, it was on Fedora on wayland so i guess it must be possible somehow | 17:31 |
| ioria | ktwo, if you mean the text-scaling-factor, yes, you can use gsettings : gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface text-scaling-factor x.x | 17:32 |
| Amaranth | If you get dconf-editor you can browse around in there and see the description of the keys and valid values | 17:41 |
| bamdaddd | Hi everyone, I have a gaming pc which im using for deep learning training using Ubuntu. It fairly new and was working fine until today it suddenly stopped working after being idle for a while. I tried to boot from live but it crashes right after the grub. tried the usual nosetmode on grub but it still crashes after the boot. Ended up deleting the | 18:35 |
| bamdaddd | whole hard drives (m2) from Bios but still no luck to boot into live image to install ubuntu. was wondering anyone has any hint that can share about debugging this | 18:35 |
| tomreyn | bamdaddd: it's "nomodeset", not "nosetmode" | 18:38 |
| EriC^^ | bamdaddd: you could try removing quiet splash and putting "verbose ignore_loglevel" in case it shows more info | 18:38 |
| bamdaddd | tomreyn thanks sorry made a typo there. I tried that as well | 18:39 |
| tomreyn | !recovery | 18:39 |
| ubottu | If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode | 18:39 |
| tatertots | How do i set my umode to +R? | 18:40 |
| tomreyn | if you can get a shell this way, check the systemd journal about when the system went down | 18:40 |
| tatertots | anybody IRC savvy? | 18:40 |
| leftyfb | tatertots: /join #freenode for support with IRC | 18:40 |
| tatertots | leftyfb: thank | 18:40 |
| Hans-Martin | do you get any error information on the crash? have you considered simple hardware failure? running graphics card intensive stuff might bring some component to its knees | 18:41 |
| bamdaddd | @ | 18:41 |
| bamdaddd | I agree but this machine was not used for over an hour of training. its brand new | 18:42 |
| bamdaddd | also the motherboard has an hdmi output which I tried with it as well | 18:43 |
| bamdaddd | it also crashes to get into recovery mode | 18:43 |
| bamdaddd | was hoping if there any way to check the hardware before boot | 18:44 |
| tomreyn | check it in "bios" then | 18:44 |
| bamdaddd | bios seems all fine | 18:44 |
| tomreyn | do a bios upgrade, too | 18:44 |
| bamdaddd | ok I'll try bios upgrade | 18:44 |
| tomreyn | and manufacturer reset | 18:44 |
| bamdaddd | thanks | 18:44 |
| Hans-Martin | and gently press memory and card connectors :-) | 18:45 |
| tomreyn | gaming pc sounds like you may have fiddled with memory frequencies? | 18:45 |
| bamdaddd | didn't touch anything yet :D bought the machine, installed ubuntu on it and installed deep learning libraries and validated the install | 18:46 |
| bamdaddd | less than a day of use | 18:46 |
| bamdaddd | factory | 18:48 |
| bamdaddd | oops sorry | 18:48 |
| jaffachief | Can you boot to a live USB? | 18:49 |
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| bamdaddd | it gets to the grub when I press enter on ubuntu it crashes before loading the live ubuntu | 18:50 |
| kryten | tatertots: "/mode tatertots +R" though, in case you haven't figured it yet. | 18:56 |
| shibboleth | sarnold, any news re the grub2 update borking on.... what appears to be specific mobo steppings? | 18:58 |
| sarnold | shibboleth: no, I haven't seen any bug reports that look related, nor other folks mention it on irc | 18:58 |
| ktwo | the solution was kinda easy in the end to the scaling thing: xrandr --output eDP-1 --mode 1600x900 --scale 1.28x1.28 , this results in screen real estate of 2048x1152 | 19:01 |
| ktwo | however interestingly this does not work on WAYLAND, only on Xorg | 19:01 |
| bamdaddd | I can load the grub bash like interface is there anyway to boot with more verbosity through this interface? | 19:03 |
| mark4 | so does this channel still plan on migrating? | 19:08 |
| sarnold | yes | 19:08 |
| mark4 | well i wont badmouth your for it but it really seems to me like the admin who left are pure poison | 19:09 |
| shibboleth | bamdaddd, grub issues, you say? please elaborate | 19:09 |
| bamdaddd | @shi | 19:10 |
| leftyfb | !ot | mark4 | 19:10 |
| ubottu | mark4: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 19:10 |
| mark4 | i think a decision to migrate whould be held off for a while | 19:11 |
| leftyfb | mark4: feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic | 19:11 |
| mark4 | kk | 19:11 |
| bamdaddd | shibboleth, got a brand new gaming pc, installed ubuntu on it updated packages and after couple hours it completly stopped working. Can't even boot into live linux. Currently playing with the grub bash like interface see if I can get more log from booting | 19:11 |
| Toadisattva | weird | 19:12 |
| Toadisattva | you can access the bios and everything? | 19:12 |
| bamdaddd | yes | 19:12 |
| shibboleth | dum da-dum... drumroll, please | 19:12 |
| shibboleth | bamdaddd, i'm assuming that the livecd in question is a "nightly"/rolling one? | 19:13 |
| bamdaddd | I actually downloaded the ubuntu image from the website both 21 and 20, used unetbootin and etched it on a USB hard drive. (is this not a livecd? ) | 19:14 |
| shibboleth | please try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/18.04.4/release/ubuntu-18.04.5-server-amd64.iso | 19:14 |
| shibboleth | sounds like you're having the same issue as i am, it'd be nice to confirm | 19:14 |
| bamdaddd | sure will do | 19:14 |
| bamdaddd | is this the grub2 related ? | 19:15 |
| shibboleth | also also: not sure if using rufus unetbootin is good for troubleshooting this as they may be using their own grub | 19:15 |
| shibboleth | please try writing the iso directly to optical media or flashdrive | 19:16 |
| shibboleth | looks like | 19:16 |
| bamdaddd | any alternative ? | 19:16 |
| leftyfb | bamdaddd: use win32 disk imager or etcher.io | 19:16 |
| shibboleth | windows can burn iso to dvds since win7? | 19:17 |
| bamdaddd | i'm on mac | 19:17 |
| shibboleth | same | 19:17 |
| shibboleth | only, i suspect, you don't have an optical media drive | 19:17 |
| bamdaddd | i have the balena etcher. can use that | 19:17 |
| bamdaddd | i don't :( | 19:17 |
| shibboleth | being a mac fanboi and all :P | 19:17 |
| leftyfb | shibboleth: please don't | 19:18 |
| bamdaddd | lol I have an optical drive somewhere but it takes forever to find it | 19:18 |
| leftyfb | bamdaddd: try etcher | 19:18 |
| leftyfb | bamdaddd: you don't need to use a CD. You can use usb | 19:18 |
| bamdaddd | ok its etched, lets try | 19:19 |
| bamdaddd | for some reason its not being listed on my boot devices let me try etching again | 19:22 |
| shibboleth | perhaps you made an mbr/legacy-only boot device | 19:23 |
| shibboleth | you could try enabling csm/legacy boot on the pc mobo | 19:23 |
| bamdaddd | is this a boot config? | 19:24 |
| shibboleth | if you're on a mac, then dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/diskX | 19:24 |
| cws | better to use /dev/rdiskX on macos | 19:25 |
| shibboleth | just make sure you went with the right diskX :) | 19:25 |
| bamdaddd | haha sure | 19:25 |
| bamdaddd | seems like mac can't mount the hard drive anymore | 19:26 |
| bamdaddd | not sure if etcher has done something weird to it | 19:26 |
| shibboleth | nvm that, just use dd | 19:26 |
| bamdaddd | ok | 19:26 |
| shibboleth | and thank richard stallman for gnu coreutils ;) | 19:26 |
| bamdaddd | dd: /dev/disk2s2: Permission denied | 19:27 |
| shibboleth | sudo dd if.... | 19:28 |
| bamdaddd | thats with sudo | 19:28 |
| shibboleth | well, you're not supposed to write to a partition (s2) | 19:28 |
| shibboleth | try disk2 directly | 19:28 |
| bamdaddd | oh ok | 19:29 |
| bamdaddd | seems like its doing something | 19:29 |
| shibboleth | also, any partitions on the device should have been unmounted or macos is likely to make a fuzz | 19:30 |
| bamdaddd | shibboleth, why ubuntu 18? | 19:31 |
| bamdaddd | rebooting | 19:33 |
| bamdaddd | :/ not getting listed as bootable drive | 19:34 |
| bamdaddd | wondering if my hard drive is broken now | 19:34 |
| leftyfb | bamdaddd: sounds like some piece of hardware has been broken from the start | 19:37 |
| shibboleth | wait, rebooting? | 19:37 |
| shibboleth | you're writing to boot media on mac, booting it on the pc, right? | 19:37 |
| bamdaddd | was booting on the pc | 19:37 |
| bamdaddd | leftyfb: my mac is working fine (for now ) | 19:38 |
| shibboleth | right. well, is this the same boot media you were previously using via unetbootin? | 19:38 |
| leftyfb | bamdaddd: I'm referring to the pc | 19:38 |
| bamdaddd | correct but unetbootin doesn't list it anymore | 19:38 |
| shibboleth | leftyfb, let's not jump to conclusions | 19:39 |
| bamdaddd | leftyfb: that might be the case, is there anyway to confirm this ? | 19:39 |
| shibboleth | enter the pc bios, enable csm/legacy boot | 19:39 |
| shibboleth | check to see that the bios even finds the boot media | 19:39 |
| bamdaddd | ok | 19:40 |
| shibboleth | also, i'm assuming that the pc still boots windows/windows boot media just fine? | 19:40 |
| bamdaddd | there is no windows | 19:41 |
| shibboleth | you don't even have a dvd/install media in a drawer? anyway, let's table that for now and focus on the 18.04.5 media | 19:42 |
| shibboleth | <bamdaddd> shibboleth, why ubuntu 18? <--- because that iso has an older grub2 | 19:43 |
| shibboleth | the new nighly/rolling releases are just that, rolling | 19:44 |
| bamdaddd | enabling cms, worked it found the disk | 19:44 |
| shibboleth | do you get the grub menu? does "install server" land you i a menu? | 19:45 |
| bamdaddd | yes | 19:45 |
| bamdaddd | now in language selection | 19:45 |
| shibboleth | wonderful | 19:45 |
| bamdaddd | shall I install the server :D? | 19:45 |
| shibboleth | mind telling me about your pc? | 19:45 |
| shibboleth | not right now | 19:45 |
| shibboleth | mobo, cpu? | 19:45 |
| bamdaddd | sure one sec | 19:46 |
| shibboleth | next we'll chroot into your old installation and reinstall the old grub | 19:46 |
| bamdaddd | trying to find the spec | 19:46 |
| shibboleth | for now, follow the menu to when you're asked about the keyboard, select "go back", go down to "change debconf priority" and select "low" | 19:47 |
| bamdaddd | AlphaSync Gaming Desktop PC, Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6GHz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 4TB HDD, 1TB SSD M.2 NVMe, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090, H150i RGB Platinum, HX850, | 19:48 |
| shibboleth | doesn't say much about the mobo, but that sure is different from the boxes i discovered the issue on | 19:49 |
| shibboleth | had i only had one and not two identical boxes i'd have suspected hw gremlins | 19:49 |
| bamdaddd | following installation menu you mean ? | 19:49 |
| shibboleth | for now, follow the menu to when you're asked about the keyboard, select "go back", go down to "change debconf priority" and select "low" | 19:49 |
| bamdaddd | the moment I press install ubuntu servers I get black screen | 19:50 |
| shibboleth | <shibboleth> do you get the grub menu? does "install server" land you i a menu? | 19:51 |
| shibboleth | <bamdaddd> yes | 19:51 |
| shibboleth | <shibboleth> wonderful | 19:51 |
| shibboleth | <bamdaddd> now in language selection | 19:51 |
| bamdaddd | but my num lock light turns on and off. previously it was off | 19:51 |
| shibboleth | which is it? black screen or language selection? | 19:51 |
| bamdaddd | Selected English > Install Ubuntu Server > Black screen | 19:51 |
| shibboleth | right, you're booting in mbr/legacy | 19:52 |
| shibboleth | reboot, tell me when you're in the boot splash screen | 19:52 |
| bamdaddd | rebooting | 19:52 |
| bamdaddd | It went directly to language selection | 19:53 |
| shibboleth | f6, toggle "expert mode" | 19:53 |
| shibboleth | then "install" | 19:53 |
| bamdaddd | F6 is other options here | 19:54 |
| bamdaddd | but doesn't do much | 19:54 |
| shibboleth | been a while, but f3 is keymap, f6 is advanced options iirc? | 19:54 |
| bamdaddd | cant see expert mode | 19:54 |
| shibboleth | well, there are four or five F-options listen at the bottom of the scree | 19:55 |
| shibboleth | should be the one furthest to the right iirc | 19:55 |
| bamdaddd | F3 Keymap, F4 Modes, F5 A11y, F6 Other options | 19:55 |
| bamdaddd | doesn't do anything | 19:55 |
| shibboleth | f4 perhaps? | 19:55 |
| bamdaddd | only f1 works | 19:55 |
| shibboleth | ok, just select "repair broken system" then | 19:56 |
| bamdaddd | ok | 19:56 |
| bamdaddd | black screen | 19:56 |
| bamdaddd | does this look like a hardware failure? | 19:57 |
| shibboleth | well, that could be some weirdness with brand-new hardware and you booting in csm/legacy atm | 19:57 |
| shibboleth | i | 19:57 |
| shibboleth | i'd recommend you manage to produce a working efi install media, it's not exactly rocket-science and dd is all you need | 19:58 |
| bamdaddd | ok thank you I'll google that | 19:58 |
| bamdaddd | thanks for your help | 19:58 |
| shibboleth | also: you're absolutely sure you don't have a windows dvd/whatever in a drawer? | 19:58 |
| bamdaddd | I'm 100% sure I don't :D | 19:59 |
| bamdaddd | i have an external dvd-rom but no dvd | 19:59 |
| shibboleth | does the bios show you two options with re to the flashdrive? one legacy and one efi? | 19:59 |
| bamdaddd | yes | 20:00 |
| bamdaddd | I selected legacy | 20:00 |
| bamdaddd | just about to test UEFI | 20:00 |
| shibboleth | right, one will look like... "P1: ubuntu abcd1234" and the other will be flashdrive make/model | 20:00 |
| shibboleth | yes, try the efi option | 20:00 |
| bamdaddd | same screens | 20:02 |
| shibboleth | i doubt it | 20:02 |
| shibboleth | there is no bootsplash menu when booting as uefi | 20:03 |
| shibboleth | just a grub menu | 20:03 |
| bamdaddd | not even a grub menu | 20:03 |
| bamdaddd | directly to select language | 20:03 |
| shibboleth | right, a purple background? | 20:03 |
| bamdaddd | yes | 20:03 |
| shibboleth | good | 20:03 |
| shibboleth | for now, follow the menu to when you're asked about the keyboard, select "go back", go down to "change debconf priority" and select "low" | 20:04 |
| shibboleth | i mean, do you have grey boxes on a purple background atm? | 20:05 |
| shibboleth | purple/pink | 20:05 |
| shibboleth | well? | 20:06 |
| shibboleth | bamdaddd, ? | 20:06 |
| bamdaddd | https://imgur.com/a/loSHCt4 | 20:06 |
| bamdaddd | this is what I get | 20:06 |
| shibboleth | that's the legacy bootsplash menu | 20:07 |
| shibboleth | meaning you did not boot as uefi | 20:07 |
| bamdaddd | do I need to disable CMS ? | 20:07 |
| shibboleth | perhaps | 20:08 |
| bamdaddd | if I disable CMS it won't find the disk | 20:10 |
| bamdaddd | and can't boot into it | 20:10 |
| shibboleth | leftyfb, also, hw failures manifest themselves randomly, there is a pattern here | 20:10 |
| shibboleth | then something went wrong when creating the boot media | 20:10 |
| bamdaddd | ok I'll try again with dd | 20:11 |
| shibboleth | try... using unetbootin then | 20:11 |
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| sandrolinux | Hello! | 21:40 |
| sandrolinux | Ubuntu is great! | 21:40 |
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| === david is now known as Guest24174 | ||
| mirak | hello | 22:24 |
| mirak | is there a simple way to use bootctl instead of grub2 ? | 22:25 |
| Maik | i guess you'll never know when leaving within seconds after asking | 22:26 |
| sarnold | 19 seconds, no kidding.. | 22:28 |
| jeremy31 | Did they mean systemd boot? | 22:41 |
| Smashcat2 | Hi, anyone know what files I need to update now in 21.04 to change the defaults in /etc/resolv.conf ? Looks like the network settings are in at least 3 different places, and maybe more. So just want to update the minimum | 22:44 |
| Smashcat2 | (this is on a headless server, no GUI) | 22:44 |
| cispra | Smashcat2: see /etc/systemd/resolved.conf (and $ man resolved.conf for details) | 22:46 |
| Smashcat2 | Thanks, I'll try that | 22:46 |
| Smashcat2 | Does resolved conflict with anything else? I didn't have it installed | 22:47 |
| cispra | as far as I am aware that is the one place you have to configure (if you have not changed default behavior of dns handling) | 22:47 |
| cispra | it should be part of systemd? | 22:47 |
| Smashcat2 | It was already on WiFi without resolved. So something else must have been setting /etc/resolv.conf | 22:48 |
| jeremy31 | Isn't netplan used on servers? | 22:48 |
| cispra | sorry my mistake if ubuntu server handles it differently | 22:48 |
| Smashcat2 | I tried /etc/network/interfaces /etc/wpa_supplicant/... /etc/NetworkManager - I think they just leave the old stuff around when they add a new method for networking :) | 22:49 |
| jeremy31 | Smashcat2: I am pretty sure /etc/network/interfaces was abandoned | 22:50 |
| Smashcat2 | It's still there in the current version for some reason. | 22:50 |
| Smashcat2 | (just doesn't do anything any more) | 22:50 |
| cispra | have you upgraded? | 22:51 |
| Smashcat2 | New install | 22:51 |
| cispra | k | 22:51 |
| jeremy31 | Smashcat2: check for files in /etc/netplan | 22:51 |
| Smashcat2 | It has one file in there that's mostly empty | 22:52 |
| Smashcat2 | Hmm, I think I'll just add a cronjob to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf every minute :) | 22:53 |
| cispra | that seems .... soooo wrong :D | 22:53 |
| sarnold | then things would be broken during whatever interval it is between the change you don't want and the top of the minute | 22:53 |
| sarnold | it'd be easier to configure whatever it is you're doing correctly | 22:54 |
| jeremy31 | Smashcat2: Ask on ubuntuforums.org in Networking, chilli555 might be able to help | 22:54 |
| Smashcat2 | Haha, it's worked ok before. Saves searching around when they change stuff again :) | 22:54 |
| jeremy31 | Smashcat2: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-bionic-netplan#:~:text=Netplan%20enables%20easily%20configuring%20networking,starting%20with%20Ubuntu%2017.10%20Artful. | 22:56 |
| Smashcat2 | Thanks, I don't think it's using netplan though. There is nothing configured in that directory, but the system does have WiFi and Ethernet working. I'll grep /etc... | 22:58 |
| Smashcat2 | Ah, looks like they use something new called NetworkManager . That's where the WiFi is at least | 22:59 |
| jeremy31 | Smashcat2: On desktop, settings are in the system-connections folder in /etc/NetworkManager | 23:00 |
| jeremy31 | I wonder if you can set things up with nmcli | 23:00 |
| Smashcat2 | I need to set some specific things up, local nameserver, and the domain etc. Just need to find where they store the configs now. | 23:01 |
| Smashcat2 | I think it'd be a good idea on new installs to only include the dirs that are actually used. Would save some confusion. | 23:02 |
| cispra | Smashcat2: does $ man -k dns | 23:03 |
| cispra | yield anything interesting which rings a bell | 23:03 |
| cispra | or $ man -k network | 23:04 |
| Smashcat2 | Not really. I've set up bind, copied from old server. Just need to ensure the machine uses it. | 23:04 |
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| jtraub91 | hey yall wondering if anyone has some advice here | 23:22 |
| jtraub91 | i have a multi-gpu setup and as soon as i add the additional gpu, the boot fails with "error: out of memory" | 23:23 |
| jtraub91 | seems to be something to do with grub ie. the bootloader but im not sure where to go from here | 23:23 |
| mirak | jeremy31, yeah | 23:24 |
| jtraub91 | im on ubuntu server 20 btw | 23:24 |
| tomreyn | jtraub91: bug 1842320 - workaround in #17 | 23:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1842320 in linux (Ubuntu) "Out of Memory on boot with 5.2.0 kernel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842320 | 23:28 |
| jeremy31 | mirak: That is far from painless to use, have to set up scripts to copy kernel files and such to /boot/efi | 23:28 |
| jeremy31 | mirak: https://blobfolio.com/2018/replace-grub2-with-systemd-boot-on-ubuntu-18-04/ | 23:28 |
| mirak | jeremy31, yeah I seen that and gave up | 23:28 |
| mirak | jeremy31, I am instead try to run without shimx64 | 23:29 |
| jeremy31 | mirak: I used it for a while but it didn't gain much with boot time on an SSD | 23:29 |
| jtraub91 | tomreyn: thanks! | 23:33 |
| jtraub91 | the workaround is to set "GFXMODE" where is that set? in the bios or... ? | 23:34 |
| tomreyn | jtraub91: sudo nano /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub | 23:34 |
| tomreyn | jtraub91: you place it in /etc/default/grub | 23:35 |
| gnutec | Joey do not show option to talk to the hologram when I play Beneath A Steel Sky. | 23:45 |
| cousteau | using ScummVM? | 23:47 |
| jtraub91 | hmm doesnt seem to be working for me | 23:47 |
| gnutec | Yes! | 23:48 |
| gnutec | ScummVM | 23:48 |
| cousteau | oh... well I was gonna suggest you use ScummVM instead of whatever you were using as a solution, so never mind | 23:48 |
| cousteau | maybe try asking in #scummvm | 23:48 |
| gnutec | cousteau, I am | 23:53 |
| gnutec | cousteau, I install with the Ubuntu Store. | 23:53 |
| cousteau | yeah, I meant that if you were running the game directly instead of with scummvm, I was going to suggest you to try scummvm, with which I could run that game OK, but since you're already using scummvm then there's nothing I can do to help | 23:54 |
| cousteau | in any case I don't think that's something to do specifically with ubuntu, so I'd suggest asking in #scummvm (I just joined to see if there were people and it was quite full) | 23:55 |
| gnutec | cousteau, Yeh! I got it now. :))) | 23:57 |
| cousteau | (nice game btw. I'll refrain from making any spoilers) :) | 23:58 |
| gnutec | cousteau, I think if I do what you told me to do, it will work. | 23:59 |
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