 @F_P_S [Hi. I've been tinkering with my UT tablet trying to set up an VPN client and I f …], it will probably get updated in the 20.04 transition but there are still a few months work left to do
 @theare27 [Is there a dedicated group for Teleports guys? Having major issues with it all o …], the developer is probably asleep atm, it is 2 AM at over there
 @theare27 [Always been functional for me until today. Now won,t load any chat groups. Tried …], Sadly it is something that happens to few users and we didn't managed to fix it yet... I don't know if there is a workaround, @Flohack ?
[06:09] <ubptgbot> <Paul BLAYLOCK> I got an issue with my Sony Xperia Performance X. The ringtone won't sound when I receive a call. I installed Ubuntu in December and it was all good. Until a few weeks ago. Now the ringtone is gone. The phone vibrates. I get notification sound for texts etc. I can even hear the ringtone when when I select a new tone in settings, so
[06:09] <ubptgbot> it isn't a hardware issue. It had an Ubuntu update a few weeks ago and I think that's when the problem started. My OS is: Ubuntu OTA-17. The phone definitely isn't on silent mode !! And I have done a Full Reset - but the ringtone is still gone. I'd really appreciate any help guys
 @theare27 [Always been functional for me until today. Now won,t load any chat groups. Tried …], Can you check if you have enough free space? Andhow did you clear data?
 @theare27 [Always been functional for me until today. Now won,t load any chat groups. Tried …], Teleports?
 @Flohack [Can you check if you have enough free space? Andhow did you clear data?], I have tried:
 Trimming my group count, it sometimes struggles with that.
 Clearing all caches with Tweak Tool
 Uninstalling
 Reinstalling
 Still the same. It just started out of nowhere. It was perfectly fine until half way through yesterday.
[07:15] <ubptgbot> Aché was added by: Aché
 hey everyone where can i talk about off topic
 another telegram group :)
 Does UT support a mobile phones without front cameras?
 @H@ñß9ñ [hey everyone where can i talk about off topic], https://t.me/UBportsOF
 thnks
 @ItoRimai [Does UT support a mobile phones without front cameras?], i think if you program it to work
[08:50] <ubptgbot> KelvinCoder was added by: KelvinCoder
 @theare27 [I have tried:], Which device is it? And can you try to obtain a log file?
 @alera_on [Do you know anyone who speaks Spanish, English, Portuguese fluently?], You mean all three fluently? We have language groups for Portuguese and Spanish
 After clearing the caches did you have to register again your account?
 @ItoRimai [Does UT support a mobile phones without front cameras?], In principle no problem but are there such things?
[09:43] <ubptgbot> Alexsandrmiller was added by: Alexsandrmiller
 When I dismantle some Android 6 devices, removing the front camera will cause the problem of unreadable
 The reason is unknown, but it won't be possible to replace other versions of Android. So I wonder if UT will be similar to devices that can't normally adapt to devices without front camera
 Well devices with a triple camera are supported by UT (for one camera only), so UT is not so fussy about hardware. You are talking about very old phones though. That may be a barrier. The focus is on Android 9
 @Flohack [Which device is it? And can you try to obtain a log file?], OnePlus One. It's strangely started working again now
 yay, mp4 youtube playback very smooth!
 (Photo, 2220x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/F9UbQPd0.png
 going to try and push a test soon :)
 @mateosalta [going to try and push a test soon :)], Explain?
 instead of vp8/vp9
 i made it play mp4 - which works better usually on mobile devices :)
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/V5E75axh.webp
 frame drop comparison:
 (Photo, 2220x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/uf22fVGT.png
 both 720p vp9 was dropping over half
 mp4 just like 3%
 where's UT　app DEV docs?
[10:41] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @Steve Kueffer [Dear all, … Rudi and Me are pleased to announce that the Vollaphone is now the fi …], Due to some issues & instabilities. The publication of the new Anbox download instructions has been temporarily closed. The specialists are working on the difficulties to be solved so that you can benefit from a usable version soon.
[10:41] <ubptgbot>  Thank you for your understanding and support. Rudi & Steve
 @ItoRimai [where's UT　app DEV docs?], I added you to Dev group
 thanks
 @Steve Kueffer [Due to some issues & instabilities. The publication of the new Anbox download in …], Thanks a lot for your hard work.
 if anyone wants to test mp4 on youtube: https://open-store.io/app/youtube-web-dev.mateo-salta
 hopefully it works on most devices?
 videos work fine on yt site on morph
 not too good on most devices
 i have a oneplus 3t and i have yet to encounter issues, i will report back if i do
 audio quality is not great though
 that is a really nice device :)
 Thank you :)
[12:21] <ubptgbot> MR was added by: MR
 @mateosalta [if anyone wants to test mp4 on youtube: https://open-store.io/app/youtube-web-de …], what devices are known to be slow and which resolution?
 i thought there's only `avc` and `vp9`, those aee offered by SnartTubeNext 😄
 @Javacookies [what devices are known to be slow and which resolution?], I think nexus 5 was not so good
 maybe the e4.5?
 my tablet only let's me choose up to 720p 🙁
 yeah, limitation of mp4
 but on phones is nice
 @mateosalta [if anyone wants to test mp4 on youtube: https://open-store.io/app/youtube-web-de …], Nice work.  Doesn't appear to work with videos that were uploaded less recently (looks like anything recent within the last 6-9 months is OK).
 yeah, some error out as not supported
[14:02] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> @Fuseteam [those commands should make the links, they do not exist out of the box], I entered them in the terminal-the links did not appear anywhere.
 I'm wondering if the user agent i used would allow logins with the user accounts, it gave an old design :)
 @mateosalta [yeah, some error out as not supported], You may want to mention that in the OpenStore page, in order to avoid unnecessary negative reviews!
 well it's a dev channel :P
 @mateosalta [yeah, some error out as not supported], [Edit] You may want to mention that in the OpenStore page, in order to avoid unnecessary negative reviews!  I.e. `Known issues...`.
 @Николайка Королёв [I entered them in the terminal-the links did not appear anywhere.], Did you get any errors when you ran those commands? Where did you check?
 @mateosalta [well it's a dev channel :P], Ah, OK then.  Actually, the actual name in the launcher could reflect that as well?
 I could, it is confusing if you have both installed
 @mateosalta [well it's a dev channel :P], [Edit] Ah, OK then.  Actually, the app's name in the launcher could reflect that as well?
 @mateosalta [I could, it is confusing if you have both installed], Exactly.
[14:07] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> @Fuseteam [hi with the coming ota 16 you no longer need to all that, you'll only need one c …], of course, I previously entered anbox-tool install - I already launched whatsapp on N5, and I can't exchange with the anbox storage due to the lack of links after entering commands to create them. OTA-16 is installed.
 i found the samsung tv user agent too, this will be fun
 @imraniqbal [You may want to mention that in the OpenStore page, in order to avoid unnecessar …], nobody reads that 😛
 @mateosalta [i found the samsung tv user agent too, this will be fun], smartyoutubetv has various TV user agents 😉
[14:08] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> @Fuseteam [Did you get any errors when you ran those commands? Where did you check?], no, they complete without errors. If you enter it again, it says that the links already exist. The only question is where?
 @Javacookies [nobody reads that 😛], Of course they do, they just choose to ignore it and give you a downvote anyway!
 @Николайка Королёв [no, they complete without errors. If you enter it again, it says that the links …], They exist in your folders
 Like pictures will have a folder call android
 [Edit] Like pictures will have a directory call android, that's your link
 i remember back in the Ubuntu store days, the usual setup is you have a stable release of your app for free then a paid/donation version that gets faster updates … i got a few bucks in different currencies for Talaan 😄
[14:13] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/FHSLM1Pq.png Look for yourself - the phone does not display them, but if you connect via SSH, then I can see them from the PC, but they are not clickable.
[14:13] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/KcEDU0l1.png
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/FaTCzNeI.png I still can't get over this review
[14:14] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> (Photo, 800x237) https://irc.ubports.com/Lea2ZR6S.png
 @Николайка Королёв [<reply to media>], Looks like something is wrong with the link then
[14:15] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> Yes, but what exactly...
 Try this in the terminal: `ll Pictures`
 [Edit] Try this in the terminal: `ll Pictures|grep android`
[14:20] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/d0wREKy0.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/gFRAk0Dp.null
 youtube tv interface could be intresting
 doesn't scroll? cuts off edges
[14:22] <ubptgbot> Mixolh was added by: Mixolh
[14:23] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> @Fuseteam [Try this in the terminal: ll Pictures|grep android], permission issues, right?
[14:24] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> when I first installed anbox, there were no links either - I entered commands to create them separately, and they required sudo.
 @ItoRimai [another telegram group :)], yeah, there are about 20-30 ubports groups 😉
 @Николайка Королёв [<reply to media>], Looks the pictures folder doesn't exist in anbox
 Can you verify the path
 @mateosalta [doesn't scroll? cuts off edges], yeah, only usable with a keyboard or remote
 sounds useful for plugging into a tv :p
 might be nice for tablet connected to tv
 wonder if generic bt gamepad remote will work
 as long as the gamepad has keyboard mode … standard input is wonky on UT … left analog moves the mouse cursor 😆
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/DvN4pXdu.webp
 @Javacookies [as long as the gamepad has keyboard mode … standard input is wonky on UT … left anal …], intresting
 wonder if it plays the movies, or if that is widevine
 it brought up a qr code, i will have to try and scale to see what happens
 you mean the TV UI?
 @mateosalta [wonder if it plays the movies, or if that is widevine], ahhh, you mean movie rentals?
 @Javacookies [ahhh, you mean movie rentals?], yeah, some are 'free to play' or if you bought
 preaty sure through widevine
 Ya'll for porting with halium 9 would using Lineage OS 17 work? Because I cannot find 16 for my device
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], probally because of online accounts for the calender i dont think the meant email
 which without that deb wasnt working
 @imraniqbal [Nice work.  Doesn't appear to work with videos that were uploaded less recently …], oh long videos are out  and game streams
 is there a way to run ut and lineage using multi rom or something?
 should be much easier to use different devices for them
[17:09] <ubptgbot> <Николайка Королёв> @Fuseteam [Looks the pictures folder doesn't exist in anbox], Up to home/phablet/anbox-data/data/ I can track it, and then " access denied"
 @Sparky3K [is there a way to run ut and lineage using multi rom or something?], Not in a supported way currently.  There is work ongoing to allow Halium 9 devices to have a Lineage 17 instance run on top of UT in an Anbox.container though that is very promisng though. https://youtu.be/-mDiOrrFCgU
 Guys since my device (Ginkgo) doesn't support Lineage 16.0 how do I port to my phone
 Using Halium 9
 ah, what is youtube doing?
 (Photo, 1080x2220) https://irc.ubports.com/f7YMEpYN.png
 they are putting a image over saved streams...
 it sill plays, strange, now i have to try and remove that with css, so many things i watch were streams to start
 @Николайка Королёв [Up to home/phablet/anbox-data/data/ I can track it, and then " access denied"], use `sudo` track it further
 @mateosalta [probally because of online accounts for the calender i dont think the meant emai …], oh that could make sense
 @Emily [Guys since my device (Ginkgo) doesn't support Lineage 16.0 how do I port to my p …], why don't you ask in @halium, most porters are active there
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/GXwy0lEn.png
 @Emily [Guys since my device (Ginkgo) doesn't support Lineage 16.0 how do I port to my p …], check my ping from yesterday
 @Fuseteam [why don't you ask in @halium, most porters are active there], Thank you
 does anyone hav the same with camera? it is loading, loading and loading and that's all
 *have
 and better @ubports_porting
 aw this is bad
 (Photo, 1080x2220) https://irc.ubports.com/WCo2QdcO.png
 @AgnieszKa17 [does anyone hav the same with camera? it is loading, loading and loading and tha …], 3t?
 @mateosalta [3t?], I am not sure what 3t means
 I have ota 16 (ota 17) on Redmi Note 7
 @mateosalta [<reply to media>], Is this a native YT Client or web app?
 webapp
 same in browser...
 (Photo, 1080x2220) https://irc.ubports.com/cMo3BTRx.png
 Strange, works here
 on dev i think?
 @fredldotme [Strange, works here], it waits like 3 seconds then puts it up
 If y'all can rate ubuntu touch, how much would you rate it out of 10?
 @snepdev [If y'all can rate ubuntu touch, how much would you rate it out of 10?], 11
 At least 😄  12 if porting was easier
 My phone is still on development so I can't say
 @AgnieszKa17 [I have ota 16 (ota 17) on Redmi Note 7], Ota17 on note 7?
 How is it
 @Flohack [11], :)
 @fredldotme [Strange, works here], mh, if i refresh it goes away
 very strange
 Old tab? Lol
 nah, only if i let the mute stay up past 3 seconds...
 @MuhammedSabbagh [Ota17 on note 7?], I can something like this, ota 16 (ota 17)
 (Photo, 1080x386) https://irc.ubports.com/pEOgksLA.png
 (Photo, 1080x373) https://irc.ubports.com/B88GZF2V.png
 if this mans ota 17, than it looks like this 🤔
 *means
 Ubuntu 16.04 and OTA-17. So that is indeed OTA 17, not 16.
 In other words, the latest stable version of Ubuntu Touch.
 @Flohack [11], I sense bias
 Asking how much people like Ubuntu Touch in a chatroom devoted to Ubuntu Touch might be a little short sighted :P
 XD
 I like it enough to use it on my only phone. That means I like it above everything else.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Asking how much people like Ubuntu Touch in a chatroom devoted to Ubuntu Touch m …], What if I asked math group 179 senior high schoolers in it along with teacher
 That would be so blind ngl
 @AgnieszKa17 [*means], How does it perform?
 @MuhammedSabbagh [How does it perform?], It works very good, only Camera and Weather apps keeps loading with not end visible. Phone calls are as they were, text messages, Telegram and Axolotl work as they should. Morph and clock the same.
 So it's much better than ota 16 right?
 @AgnieszKa17 [It works very good, only Camera and Weather apps keeps loading with not end visi …], Are the navigation gestures working probably too?
 @MuhammedSabbagh [So it's much better than ota 16 right?], it's smooth, when camera will load it would be better as a full system for sure, I wonder if I should uninstall it and install again to get it start working
 And you are daily drivering it now?
 @MuhammedSabbagh [Are the navigation gestures working probably too?], yes, both on the screen and the ones like moving the phone in Tux Race
 @MuhammedSabbagh [And you are daily drivering it now?], yes, this is my daily driver currently
 Wow nice
 Last time on ota 16 the experience was pretty poor and gestures were buggy  … Might go back to UT I think
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/deuodPIf.png
 I had system update suggested and agreed to continue
 Since when you were in UT btw
 since around 20 Dec 2020, however with breaks like 1 month UT 2nd android and again back to UT, currently I switched for longer (I convinced my friends and family that phone calls ok at whatever time, but voice calls on Telegram and Signal only when I am around my laptop) 😄 and how about you?
 Hold on a min
 All that on lavender?
 I managed to stay on it for 15 hour
 yes, all on Redmi Note 7
 Well then guess I might try it one more timw
 I am going to scream
 Every kernal I find for my device that's pie, doesn't have manifest.xml
 @mintphin just out of curiosity, what's the current state of the Mi A3 port? Forum thread seems pretty dead and nobody has submitted detailed status info to the new devices page yet
 @AgnieszKa17 [It works very good, only Camera and Weather apps keeps loading with not end visi …], Does Morph have hardware acceleration in RN7? I guess not, but I'm curious, does RN7 have bugs in UT? Even if Morph doesn't have hardware acceleration, the videos in pages like YouTube plays at least without lag? I'm very interested in that de
[20:04] <ubptgbot> vice for my daily driver, currently I have a OnePlus One
[20:07] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @LGeek [Does Morph have hardware acceleration in RN7? I guess not, but I'm curious, does …], You can take a look at: … https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/lavender/ … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/6026/redmi-note-7-state-of-play
 @LGeek [Does Morph have hardware acceleration in RN7? I guess not, but I'm curious, does …], it used to be possible to enable Marius experimental branch on Android 9+ devices for browser engine acceleration
 @Follpvosten [@mintphin just out of curiosity, what's the current state of the Mi A3 port? For …], Only bug is the fingerprint scanner.
 Everything else is working.
 it's still not merged because it broke some other devices
 @mintphin [Only bug is the fingerprint scanner.], I guess you haven't tried daily driving device for a while then :)
 @NotKit [I guess you haven't tried daily driving device for a while then :)], I actually did.
 @LGeek [Does Morph have hardware acceleration in RN7? I guess not, but I'm curious, does …], To be honest RN7 is the only phone with UT that I have ever used, so it is hard to compare with other UT devices to me from my practice. However when it comes to video on YT it works normally, the same as on laptop or android, I noticed no lag
[20:10] <ubptgbot> s in it 😄 When it comes to hardware acceleration I am not sure what it is in practice 😅 but Morph itself works smoothly and fast, I used it for reading and watching pictures and for Anki due to lack of Anki app
 And that's the only bug I found myself.
 because we commonly have lots of annoying things like "cellular network lost after a week of use" in general
 @NotKit [because we commonly have lots of annoying things like "cellular network lost aft …], I didn't have that issue tho.
 I used it for months and it still worked.
 hm, why it's still not in the installer though? I think it's on OTA server
 i haven't written the manifest for the installer yet
 cuz i'm daily driving a10 now
 @AgnieszKa17 [To be honest RN7 is the only phone with UT that I have ever used, so it is hard …], Thank you for the answer, I need to try for myself, I suppose I have to buy an used RN7
[20:13] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @LGeek [Thank you for the answer, I need to try for myself, I suppose I have to buy an u …], Indeed, and you can find one for about 150$ on chinese sellers main apps...
 @Steve Kueffer [You can take a look at: … https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/lavender/ … https …], Thank you, I already read the forum, but I'm not very sure to replace my OPO with the RN7, also I'm considered to get an PinePhone, but the shipping to my country takes a lot of time.
[20:38] <ubptgbot> Marcus Fredlund was added by: Marcus Fredlund
 @mintphin [Everything else is working.], Thanks!
 @LGeek [Thank you, I already read the forum, but I'm not very sure to replace my OPO wit …], Pinephone at the moment is quite experimental. If you want a daily driver it is not the best choice right now
 @LGeek [Thank you, I already read the forum, but I'm not very sure to replace my OPO wit …], Buy either opo or rn7
 These guys are better and mostly cost less
 @Stereofont [Pinephone at the moment is quite experimental. If you want a daily driver it is …], thank you, yes, im looking for a daily driver, but AFAIK, Pinephone runs well other distros, not sure if it has bugs on other distros.
 @MuhammedSabbagh [Buy either opo or rn7], i have an OPO, but i want a RN7, it has better camera and screen, but i dont knoe if performance is better
 @MuhammedSabbagh [Buy either opo or rn7], [Edit] i have an OPO, but i want a RN7, it has better camera and screen, but i dont know if performance is better
 As of android it's amazing
 On UT you might find misses here and there
 But it's under 'development' so it's forgivable
 @MuhammedSabbagh [On UT you might find misses here and there], I dont use Android apps, but i have a lot of webapps created with webber, i'm interested in the performance in webpager more that anything else :)
 @MuhammedSabbagh [On UT you might find misses here and there], [Edit] I dont use Android apps, but i have a lot of webapps created with webber, i'm interested in the performance in webpages more that anything else :)
 If u bought a note 7 I strongly recommend you to unlock it and flash a custom ROM to reveal it's actual limits
 @MuhammedSabbagh [If u bought a note 7 I strongly recommend you to unlock it and flash a custom RO …], wrong group I guess :) we care more about a device to run UT than just having some phone
 @MuhammedSabbagh [If u bought a note 7 I strongly recommend you to unlock it and flash a custom RO …], i already tested RN7 because my sister have one with Android, but she does not use UT
 @NotKit [wrong group I guess :) we care more about a device to run UT than just having so …], I see your point
[21:10] <ubptgbot> Sergio_Arze was added by: Sergio_Arze
 You can take a look at: … https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/lavender/ … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/6026/redmi-note-7-state-of-play
 [Edit] If you bought a note 7 I strongly recommend you to unlock it and flash a custom ROM to reveal it's actual limits
 @MuhammedSabbagh [You can take a look at: … https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/lavender/ … https …], i'll read the forum :) thanks
 Anytime
 @NotKit [wrong group I guess :) we care more about a device to run UT than just having so …], What I meant by custom ROM is to know the phone's limits since miui really slow down this thing by fars
 Judging this phone with miui is a true misjudgement
 @MuhammedSabbagh [Judging this phone with miui is a true misjudgement], agreed, but some other Xiaomi phone actually runs better with MIUI, fun case is the Mi A3, performs better using MIUI, but we are here for UT hehe
 @LGeek [agreed, but some other Xiaomi phone actually runs better with MIUI, fun case is …], Mi A3 is android one aka aosp … Ofc it will run better
 But yeah let's keep chat on UT
 @MuhammedSabbagh [Mi A3 is android one aka aosp … Ofc it will run better], Actually it's the opposite, runs better with MIUI than Android One, also I'm interested in UT on Mi A3 because I have one, but there is not much info about it and it is not supported in installer.