[00:17] <strawberrycat> hi everyone, does anyone have tips for setting up screen sharing? i've
[00:17] <strawberrycat> tried the advice on the ubuntu website but can't get the 'screen
[00:17] <strawberrycat> sharing' toggle to appear in the sharing section of settings. vino is
[00:17] <strawberrycat> installed and juno is up to date
[00:29] <tripelb> why is one core disabled? dell 20.04 only on hd.  https://i.imgur.com/zWnVlSy.jpg
[00:30] <tripelb> could i have seated it wrong? no because it knows what it is. ???
[00:30] <tripelb> how long should I leave the memory test going
[00:30] <tripelb> ?
[00:31] <tomreyn> try ##hardware for hardware questions
[00:33] <tripelb> hi tomreyn i did what you said and sensors showed me no temp issues. when I heard the beeps.
[00:33] <tripelb> still dont know why it beeps. There should be a way to tell.
[00:33] <tripelb> will go to ##hardware
[00:38] <dbrownns> kittytrouble: they should be able to set a static ip to the router they supply, assuming they supply one(like a cable modem), then on your local network set your server to a static ip rather than dhcp. then on the router port forward your webserver ports
[01:16] <tripelb> tomreyn memtest hangs. they answered first to tell me to get a new mem test. I did but I had the most recent version already. ran it again and I could see in the first 0.1 seconds it stops running. escape doesn't work I have to hard reboot with the button
[01:18] <tomreyn> tripelb: there's a reason why i pointed you to ##hardware. this does not sound like a software issue, definitely not an ubuntu issue, you're asking about a software that runs outside of ubuntu.
[01:19] <tomreyn> if this system can uefi boot, maybe try https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm as well
[01:19] <tomreyn> but i'd rather bet on hardware issues.
[03:30] <mx6523> If anyone could tell me about making every resizable window to automatic fullscreen, I would appreciate it
[05:26] <trohrt> Can anybody point me to any reference on how to actually configure Group Policy on a 21.04 workstation?
[05:42] <tatertots> trohrt: assuming you're in a ADDS environment...short answer is you're not going to
[05:43] <tatertots> trohrt: anything you thought you'd manage via GPO in a ADDS environment, you'll have to create new/different ways to manage
[05:43] <tatertots> trohrt: to make a long story short
[09:54] <renn0xtk9> I am trying to make a udev rules like this :  ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="sd?", SUBSYSTEM=="block", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", RUN+="/home/max/.scripts/sync_music_key.sh"   but the script does not run when I plug a usb key
[10:16] <PCatinean> Hi all, I did an upgrade on a ubuntu 14.04 to the latest version (dist-upgrade) and now it is landing in grub with a terminal and no longer booting automatically to ubunutu. How could I fix this? I have a KVM link to the server
[10:17] <McErroneous> .
[10:18] <McErroneous> PCatinean: .. idk.., but maybe there is update-grup comamnd
[10:19] <McErroneous> v1.98 i think..
[10:25] <PCatinean> McErroneous, tried that it goes to the same unfortunately
[10:25] <PCatinean> Tried purging grub and installing it from scratch and now the screen is just blank
[10:26] <McErroneous> try figuring ... chroot and maybe combine with update-grub...
[10:26] <McErroneous> but i dont know how to do it by myself..
[10:26] <McErroneous> so ..
[10:27] <McErroneous> or maybe try ..., to install a new distro...., but just the bootloader (grub).., and stop installing...
[10:27] <McErroneous> idk if it works..
[10:28] <McErroneous> or search for help.., here in chat..., sorry..
[10:29] <McErroneous> maybe try asking again...
[10:29] <McErroneous> ohh.., i am in #ubuntu... , thought i am in ##linux...
[10:30] <McErroneous> i am helping in #ubuntu.., the distro that abandoned me (ubuntuusers.de)
[10:31] <McErroneous> they banned me after a fight for beeing able to post on EOL releases in the forum...
[10:31] <Chunkyz> McErroneous: this is a support channel, take it to discuss...
[10:31] <Chunkyz> !offtopic | McErroneous
[10:32] <Chunkyz> McErroneous: there's also #ubuntu-discuss for stuff like you're speaking about :-)
[10:33] <McErroneous> Chunkyz: support then..., 1000 users.., and nobody is able to fix a grub boot...
[10:33] <McErroneous> ubuntu should slow down...theire release cycles...
[10:33] <Chunkyz> PCatinean: have you tried a live cd?
[10:34] <PCatinean> Chunkyz, there's only the rescue system from the data center in which you can mount the filesystem with chroot
[10:34] <Chunkyz> it's sunday, most people are probably relaxing and are asleep McErroneous. again, this *IS* a support channel
[10:35] <McErroneous> talk , talk, talk..., upgrade upgrade upgrade.., is the answer for all ubuntu support questions...
[10:35] <McErroneous> just UPGRADE..., they say...
[10:36] <Chunkyz> McErroneous: /join #ubunt-discuss
[10:36] <Chunkyz> McErroneous: /join #ubuntu-discuss **
[10:36] <Chunkyz> PCatinean: what you tried to do to fix it?
[10:36] <McErroneous> your distro is EOL..., you are endangering the human mankind by using a EOl release...
[10:36] <Chunkyz> really dude?
[10:37] <McErroneous> they say..
[10:38] <PCatinean> Chunkyz, I purged grub, tried reinstalling it and now it ends up in emergency mode
[10:38] <PCatinean> At least it's not a black screen anymore
[10:39] <Chunkyz> I would say do a fresh install but it's a data centre...
[10:39] <PCatinean> yeah
[11:13] <otisolsen70> I have a problem with a broken package that depends on some old python stuff. I cannot remove the package because the remove operation fails. Now I cannot install/remove/upgrade any packages on my system. Any way to fix? This is output from apt --fix-broken install: https://paste.yt/p15187.html
[11:24] <void09> Hi. I have a rather non-standard ubuntu 18.04 install. It comes with python 3.6.9. I want it gone and python 3.7 on it instead. How would I do this ? I see there's python3.7 packages but also some ppas.. which is the better route?
[11:24] <otisolsen70> Can I somehow remove the package manually? Or just remove it from the package database. The package does not do much. It is just a bunch of scripts.... So it does not matter if dpkg does not know it is installed.
[11:31] <void09> I just read ubuntu needs python itself for stuff, will 18.04 break if i put 3.7 on it instead of 3.6.9?
[11:31] <kraiskil> void09, do you need the system default python upgraded? Or just 3.7 available? If the latter, I'd grab it from python.org and install to /opt/python/3.7, and set the PATH (maybe PYTHONPATH?) in .bashrc. Less chance of breaking anything :p
[11:31] <void09> I'd like the system default upgraded if possible, otherwise things are much more complicated, and i'm not good with either python or ubuntu stuff
[11:32] <void09> I'm sure someone tried this before
[11:37] <kraiskil> I don't see why anybody would want to mess about with the system default python. But yes, probably someone somewhere has tried :)
[11:38] <vadi2> All my my mount points in /media/<username> have become duplicated and I can't use my external drives anymore due to this. How can I fix the situation?
[11:40] <kraiskil> vadi2, can you unmount the drives, and delete the mountpoints?
[11:41] <vadi2> Tried unmounting via UI but it gives an incomprehensible error message - https://imgur.com/a/RNpNIMO
[11:41] <vadi2> Not sure what to do about that
[11:42] <MadLamb> How can I adjust the screen/monitor settings before I authenticate the user? I have two screens and it is picking the wrong one.
[11:43] <kraiskil> can SSDs be ejected :D
[11:43] <vadi2> exactly
[11:43] <kraiskil> vadi2, how about 'pumount /<mountpoint>'
[11:44] <kraiskil> or 'sudo umount /<mountpoint>'
[11:44] <kraiskil> ie. cmd line :p
[11:44] <doismellburning> I'm having an issue with Xastir that I think might be an Ubuntu/X/config/$something issue but I'm struggling to pin down what/where - important parts of the interface text don't seem to render: https://kg289.user.srcf.net/xastir-white-on-white.png
[11:45] <doismellburning> I may be wrong, but it *feels* like some kind of X/font config issue where it's using white text on a white background, rather than something Xastir-specific, but I'm struggling to debug it at all
[11:45] <vadi2> pumount /dev/sdb1- Error: device /dev/sdb1 is not mounted, sudo umount /dev/sdb1 umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted.
[11:46] <vadi2> I've tried restarting, but it's still mounting the drives all wrong
[11:46] <vadi2> The issue happened after my computer crashed - amd ryzen is very crashy unfortunately
[11:47] <vadi2> Would really like to unfsck this so I can get back to my life :|
[11:48] <void09> vadi2: I'd suggest you switch to a different distro ecosystem for modern hardware/desktop use.
[11:49] <vadi2> what are you talking about...
[11:49] <void09> ubuntu is just awful for desktop :)
[11:49] <vadi2> I'm looking for support, not trolling.
[11:49] <void09> I'm serious, from experience, just saying. Ignore me then.
[11:50] <kraiskil> :D
[11:50] <kraiskil> vadi2, ok, so the drives are not mounted
[11:50] <kraiskil> it should be safe to remove the mountpoints
[11:50] <vadi2> I think it is, if I click on SSDer in nautilus it shows me the file contents
[11:51] <vadi2> It just got mounted as "/media/vadi/SSDer2" (undesired)
[11:51] <vadi2> okay, unmounted now, it was on /dev/sdb5!
[11:52] <vadi2> by remove the mount points - I delete everything in /media ?
[11:53] <kraiskil> 'rmdir <mountpoint>'. Deletes only empty directories
[11:53] <kraiskil> I'm not sure what nautilus does though. I don't use a desktop :p
[11:54] <vadi2> They're all gone. Restart?
[11:54] <kraiskil> restart works too :)
[11:55] <void09> ok so apt looks a bit broken if switching default python to 3.7 instead of 3.6 that comes with bionic
[11:56] <void09> who in their right mind would write a package manager on python, jeez
[11:56] <void09> that alone says a lot about ubuntu :D not trolling
[11:57] <void09> hm it says it's c++, but then why does it fail if switching pythons :\
[11:58] <vadi2> That worked - thanks a lot!
[11:59] <john_rambo> When I try to add my Facebook account to "Online Accounts" I see this message >>>> https://ibb.co/hdcvB4K ....Is there a fix ?
[12:08] <void09> nvm I had to reinstall python3-apt
[12:08] <void09> ok so, how do I make python and pip commands work without specifying pip3, python3, etc?
[12:09] <doismellburning> void09: you may be looking for `python-is-python3`
[12:10] <void09> lol.. a package for this
[12:11] <void09> does not seem to exist in ubuntu 18.04
[12:13] <void09> alias python=python3 in .bashrc ?
[12:13] <void09> is this an okay solution that will not break things ?
[12:14] <doismellburning> Seems reasonable, it's what I've done
[12:14] <doismellburning> No guarantees it won't break things you run that make a `python=python2` assumption of course, but in relative terms, I expect it to be fine
[12:15] <ksy> you can make a symbol link for python
[12:15] <ksy> don't use alias, it only works in bash
[12:17] <void09> mkdir -p ~/bin && cd ~/bin
[12:17] <void09> ln -s $(which python3) python
[12:17] <void09> ln -s $(which pip3) pip
[12:17] <void09> did this, works
[12:32] <doismellburning> Hm, I think my dive down the rabbit hole of XLFDs was unhelpful, because they don't specify colours
[12:56] <doismellburning> That'll do it - I had `*foreground: white\n*background: black` in my .Xresources, and Xastir was forcing a white background but using defaults for foreground in places
[13:22] <void09> so can someone clarify the correct way to install pip for python3.7 ?
[13:22] <void09> with apt, not from python
[13:22] <void09> it seems to be not included in the python3.7 package ;-?
[13:22] <void09> ubuntu 18.04*
[13:22] <A_D> I believe theres a python3-pip package
[13:23] <doismellburning> probably `apt install python3.7-pip`
[13:24] <void09> E: Unable to locate package python3.7-pip
[13:24] <void09> A_D: that python3-pip package installs python3.6-dev
[13:24] <A_D> does `pip3` work?
[13:24] <void09> nope
[13:24] <void09> Command 'pip3' not found, but can be installed with:
[13:24] <void09> sudo apt install python3-pip
[13:24] <A_D> you could download it manually, wont get any support though
[13:25] <doismellburning> void09: how did you install python3.7?
[13:25] <void09> doismellburning: sudo apt-get install python3.7-venv python3.7-distutils python3.7-dev git lsb-release -y
[13:25] <void09> I think one of those depended on python3.7 and it pulled that too
[13:25] <doismellburning> where'd that package come from?
[13:26] <doismellburning> I'd assume that would supply a `python3.7-pip` too
[13:26] <void09> install instructions for a thing i want to get going
[13:26] <doismellburning> no, as in, what's the package source?
[13:26] <void09> there's no such package
[13:26] <void09> normal ubuntu repositories, no ppas
[13:27] <doismellburning> then there probably isn't an apt way to install pip for python3.7
[13:27] <void09> :[
[13:27] <void09> python3.7 -m pip install pip then ?
[13:27] <void09> or apt python3-pip and change default python to 3.7?
[13:27] <doismellburning> I'd do the former, personally
[13:27] <doismellburning> well, I'd probably actually install pyenv and do it all that way, but yeah
[13:28] <void09> sigh. This is why I never use ubuntu, not even on servers. but the distro I deployed for my machines, that does one task and does it well, needs to be expanded with this stuff now.. so
[13:29] <doismellburning> fair enough, have fun with whatever you do use!
[13:29] <void09> And I think they use ubuntu 18 LTS cause of better mainstream video driver support
[13:30] <void09> sudo apt install python3-pip
[13:30] <void09> The following additional packages will be installed:
[13:30] <void09>   build-essential g++ g++-7 gcc gcc-7 libasan4 libatomic1 libcc1-0 libcilkrts5 libgcc-7-dev libgomp1 libitm1 liblsan0 libmpx2 libpython3-dev libpython3.6 libpython3.6-dev libquadmath0
[13:30] <void09>   libstdc++-7-dev libtsan0 libubsan0 python3-asn1crypto python3-cffi-backend python3-crypto python3-cryptography python3-dev python3-keyring python3-keyrings.alt python3-secretstorage
[13:30] <void09>   python3-setuptools python3-wheel python3-xdg python3.6-dev
[13:30] <void09> holy shit :D
[13:30] <Chunkyz> !language | void09
[13:31] <Chunkyz> !paste | void09
[13:31] <void09> holy shit is not shit though, if it's holy then it's edible, so no foul language imho :P
[13:59] <dob1_> can the scaling be setup per monitor?
[14:00] <dob1_> for example one monitor 125% scaling another one no scaling?
[14:28] <conjo> hi thanks in advance for any feedback
[14:28] <conjo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/M5VMz8tRk8/
[14:30] <conjo> fyi running Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
[15:04] <void09> so can anyone make me understand why there's no python3.7-pip package in ubuntu repos ?
[15:04] <void09> since they did package python 3.7
[15:04] <void09> or is it something about the nature of pip that made them not do it and instead use the base 3.6 pip?
[15:04] <VMGuy23>  I think pip comes with Python
[15:05] <void09> it does not, not on ubuntu
[15:05] <VMGuy23> Weird. Is there not python3-pip?
[15:06] <void09> there is, but it's for python 3.6, the default of the 18.04
[15:06] <void09> and it pulls all kind of crap dependencies with it i don't want
[15:06] <void09> that I don't want*
[15:06] <VMGuy23> Why are you on 18.04 instead of 20.04/21.04?
[15:06] <void09> VMGuy23: cause I have a cluster of 24 machines on it
[15:06] <void09> not my choice
[15:07] <void09> and whoever made that choice probably did so because of gpu driver support being more readily available
[15:07] <VMGuy23> Oh. Could you not add a PPA (or the 20.04 repos themseles)
[15:07] <void09> i found a ppa, but the method to install pip uses some external script, not ubuntu packaged
[15:08] <void09> idk if I should be adding 20.04 repos ? idk, i use arch linux on all my machines and servers, except this cluster that was more convenient to use this ubuntu 18.04 based distro :P
[15:09] <VMGuy23> Oh. Have you checked with the manager of the cluster that there isn't the required drivers for ubuntu 20.04?
[15:09] <void09> I am the manager of the cluster lol
[15:09] <void09> there probably are, but I don't have any saying in what distro  version it's based on. they probably chose 18.04 for good reason
[15:09] <VMGuy23> I meant who chose to stay on 18.04
[15:10] <void09> it's a mining distro
[15:10] <void09> Hive OS is an operating system developed on the basis of Linux distribution Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
[15:10] <void09> look, this one even uses 16.04 lol
[15:10] <void09> I think amd drivers are more readily compatible with the LTS ubuntus first, and potentially problematic outside it
[15:11] <void09> or at least the amdgpu pro components
[15:11] <VMGuy23> Yeah. I have an AMD CPU and GPU and drivers are only for LTS, such as 20.04
[15:12] <VMGuy23> I learnt by breaking my graphics drivers trying to install AMDGPU-PRO, resulting in low performance LLVM and not allowing a second monitor
[15:12] <VMGuy23> I had to reinstall
[15:12] <void09> I think they only need the opencl part of amdgpu pro, but still
[15:13] <void09> not exactly sure, I use amd gpu on arch and everything works fine, latest drivers
[15:13] <VMGuy23> 21.04 seems to have built-in drivers for my exact GPU (intergrated Radeon Vega Mobile GFX)
[15:14] <void09> Ubuntu is only good for servers, imho (and even then a hassle, if it's an older version)
[15:14] <VMGuy23> I dual-boot Win10-Ubuntu and use Ubuntu modtly
[15:22] <ogra> void09, sudo apt install python3-pip, sudo apt install python3.7, python3.7 -m pip install pip ... gives you the 3.7 pip
[15:22] <void09> ogra: I want to avoid python3-pip, as it pulls some 3.6 dependencies i don't want, with it
[15:22] <void09> I found this way:
[15:23] <VMGuy23> Uninstall 3.6 pip after installing 3.7 pip
[15:23] <void09> curl https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py | sudo python3.7
[15:23] <tomreyn> install ubuntu first of all
[15:24] <void09> I wanted an ubuntu packaged pip version for 3.7 , but for some reason there isn't any
[15:24] <ogra> well, if you find it safe to blindly pipe code from the internet into a privileged interpreter 😛
[15:24] <ogra> $ apt-cache show python3-pip|grep Depends
[15:24] <ogra> Depends: ca-certificates, python3-distutils, python-pip-whl (= 9.0.1-2.3~ubuntu1.18.04.4), python3:any (>= 3.4~)
[15:24] <void09> well, it works, is quick, and doesn't get me bloat
[15:24] <ogra> doesnt really loook like unreasonale dependencies
[15:24] <VMGuy23> Safe way to do it: Install 3.6 pip, install latest 3.7 pip from that, autoremove 3.6 pip
[15:26] <void09> https://i.imgur.com/RoieilX.png - 206MB of crap for pip, which is 3.6 anyway
[15:26] <void09> yeah I have to manually remove everything later, sight
[15:27] <VMGuy23> I don't see what's so bad about having 300MB space used for only 5 minutes before you apt autoremove and apt clean.
[15:28] <ogra> void09, use --no-install-recommends for apt in such cases
[15:29]  * ogra would really not install a py file curled from the internet that contains a 2MB binary blob on ay internet facing production server  ...  but thats only me not wanting my machine hooked into some bot net 
[15:30]  * VMGuy23 just uses whatever version comes with Ubuntu and does not care about dependencies
[15:30] <ogra> yeah ...
[15:30] <ogra> or where i can ... snaps
[15:31]  * VMGuy23 uses snaps as little as possible
[15:31] <void09> well some stuff requires 3.7, so i can't do anything about that
[15:31] <ogra> (builtin sandboxing, smaller foootprint, builtin backup functionality, builtin auto-rollback to former version ... etc etc )
[15:32] <VMGuy23> slower start time, bigger packages, an entire vm
[15:32] <ogra> uh ... myths 🙂
[15:32] <doismellburning> ogra: given that py file is supplied by the pip upstream, it doesn't seem particularly unreasonable to trust it ;)
[15:33] <VMGuy23> Opera: .deb: instant, snap: >1minute, sometimes not loads
[15:33] <VMGuy23> Also I know it uses a VM because I tried to develop a snap once
[15:33] <doismellburning> VMGuy23: there's a lot of good work going into snap startup times, and it's not "an entire VM"
[15:33] <ogra> doismellburning, yeah, might be ... yet, there is a more "ubuntu friendly" way to get 3.7 ...
[15:33] <doismellburning> ogra: oh sure!
[15:34] <VMGuy23> Snaps still use an Ubuntu base system and each snap installs its own dependencies.
[15:34] <ogra> VMGuy23, there is no VM ... the startup differences are ... while measurable in the millisecond range, not really noticeable for servers ... the packages are definitely smaller than installing all deps as deb packages
[15:34] <doismellburning> VMGuy23: yep, and the dependency isolation is incredibly valuable
[15:34] <ogra> yeah
[15:35] <ogra> especially in the server area
[15:36] <ogra> that desktop snps are slower on very first startup because they have to copy a user environment in place is a fact though ... and while that can be improved (it already did ... i.e. chromium came from 20sec startup time to roughly 5sec) there will always be some difference to running it without snadboxing
[15:37] <ogra> but that really outweights the advantages
[15:38] <VMGuy23> ogra: "there is no VM" well what's this: https://imgur.com/a/loS4glu
[15:39] <ogra> that is a build tool building a package 🙂
[15:39] <doismellburning> VMGuy23: that's the dev VM that snapcraft uses to build things
[15:39] <doismellburning> VMGuy23: https://snapcraft.io/docs/build-options - "By default, Snapcraft uses Multipass to simplify the build process and to confine the build environment within a virtual machine"
[15:40] <VMGuy23> Oh :) I thought it ran that when you started the snap
[15:40] <ogra> snapcraft has nothing to do with running snaps
[15:40] <ogra> it is the tool you can use to easily create them ... and it does also not require a VM (i never use one for creating mine for example)
[15:41] <VMGuy23> I still wonder how to get 21.04 dependencies and custom scripts into building a snap.
[15:42] <VMGuy23> I kind of need to know how
[15:42] <ogra> "snapcraft --use-lxd" uses a cotainer to build ... "snapcraft --destructive-mode" builds completely natively on your host
[15:42] <VMGuy23> Didn't know that. Cool
[15:42] <ogra> though careful with that ... snaps run on top of their base snap ... which binds you to a certain LTS version
[15:43] <doismellburning> VMGuy23: it's been a while but look at base snaps / https://snapcraft.io/docs/build-and-staging-dependencies
[15:43] <ogra> you dont want to use --destructive-mode on a 21.04
[15:43] <doismellburning> (ogra will know much more about this than me though)
[15:43] <VMGuy23> I'm on 21.04
[15:43] <ogra> we should move to #ubuntu-discuss though 🙂
[15:43] <ogra> not really a support thing
[15:44] <VMGuy23> Yeah
[15:44] <doismellburning> ogra: is that a core channel / should it be added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/Scope ?
[15:44] <VMGuy23> Moving to #ubuntu-discuss from #ubuntu
[15:45] <VMGuy23> It is an official Ubuntu channel
[15:47] <ogra> yeah
[15:54] <gdi2k> can we still not upgrade from 20.10 to 21.04? Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[15:54] <gdi2k> No new release found.
[15:59] <ioria> gdi2k, do-release-upgrade -cd
[16:00] <gdi2k> ioria, thanks - is 21.04 considered a development release? what does -c do?
[16:01] <ioria> --check-dist-upgrade-only
[16:01] <VMGuy23> I just did do-release-upgrade -d and it upgraded me.
[16:02] <gdi2k> yeh, it's going now with -d option
[16:02] <ogra> 21.04 is a stable release ... but only supported for 9months
[16:20] <VMGuy23> Got error while trying to git clone: https://dpaste.com/2H8P9QV9H
[16:21] <doismellburning> VMGuy23: clone what from where with what?
[16:21] <VMGuy23> From github.com with git clone
[16:22] <VMGuy23> in lxd container (20.04)
[16:23] <VMGuy23> Cloning my fork of a game, which I will snap.
[16:23] <VMGuy23> https://github.com/VMGuy23/Funkin/ heres the link to the repo
[16:44] <Lantizia> anyone ever seen a situation where you turn your screen off (in this case a projector connected by hdmi) and it triggers the screensaver to turn on?
[16:48] <Nokaji> Lantizia, nope but whilst you wait for someone who knows what they are talking about - I'd point out that a pc can have two 'OFF' buttons, one usually a S/W reset (the other a hard 'OFF'), the former can be configured to respond differently, e'g' needs to be held for four seconds
[16:50] <VMGuy23> I think maybe the projector turning off triggers to laptop-lid close
[16:55] <Nokaji> that sounds more like it
[17:01] <VMGuy23> Is Ctrl+O save in NANO?
[17:03] <noord> VMGuy23: yes, there is an alternative, Ctrl+X prompts save dialog then press Y for confirmation
[17:04] <VMGuy23> X closes though.
[18:44] <HaJones> On How do I read man pages? e.g. in 'man ls' there is something called (underlined)PATTERN that I is what I want ls to search with, but in what format should (underlined)PATTERN be? e.g. inside "" or ' ' or without? I can not find any info in the man page. and I can not do ctrl-] (used in vim-help) to use PATTERN as a link. man PATTERN or pattern does not work. Is there a way to know what these underlined capital words stands for?
[19:19] <tomreyn> HaJones: as it (if indirectly) says on the 'ls' man page, the pattern (format) is shell specific. so rfer to your shell's man page and see how it does Pattern Matching
[19:19] <tomreyn> rfer -> refer
[19:22] <tomreyn> HaJones: also note this channel will likely move to the libera.chat IRC network soon.
[19:22] <coconut> tomreyn, what is soon here?
[19:24] <tomreyn> coconut: not before it's been decided and documented at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/
[19:24] <coconut> thank you :)
[19:40] <HaJones> tomreyn, thanks for your information, both of them :)
[19:42] <HaJones> tomreyn, does that mean that right now the chat can be reached form both networks?
[19:42] <HaJones> will this be true for all freenode chats? do you know?
[19:44] <Bashing-om> HaJones: ubuntu is active now on irc.libera.chat network.
[19:50] <tomreyn> HaJones: there's *no* synchronization / bridge setup for those channels at this time.
[20:10] <trohrt> Trying to install Ubuntu on an nvme on an Optiplex 9010
[20:10] <trohrt> Apparently these can't boot off nvme
[20:10] <trohrt> I'd like to have my install utilize encrypted ZFS - can I still accomplish this with booting on a USB?
[20:10] <trohrt> I tried "Something else" but when I go to create partitions, the installer doesn't have option for ZFS
[20:10] <trohrt> This is Ubuntu 21.04
[20:11] <trohrt> I can install encrypted ZFS without "Something else" menu, just not /boot on my USB drive that way :(
[20:41] <RJ45> I don't have a serious issue, just a quick easy question; I am on LTS Ubuntu and would like to stay that way. has 5.9.0 kernel been released yet (isn't in my apt) and if so is it safe to install from a manually downloaded .deb with gdebi?
[20:42] <RJ45> I desire to do this because 5.9 has a driver I need  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1259947/cant-get-rtl8125b-working-on-20-04
[20:43] <Eickmeyer> RJ45: Anything outside of the official repositories is unsupported and use-at-your-own-risk.
[20:44] <RJ45> in-general is it mostly safe tho? I can always just boot into the 5.8 kernel again and uninstall 5.9 right?
[20:44] <Eickmeyer> RJ45: That's up to you.
[20:44] <RJ45> or is it more complicated than that for the kernel?
[20:44] <Eickmeyer> Nope, Grub should see it.
[20:45] <Eickmeyer> Make sure you run a "sudo update-grub" to make sure.
[20:45] <RJ45> now I'm weary, after your stern warning.. w-what *could* go wrong?
[20:45] <RJ45> (´･ω･`)
[20:46] <Eickmeyer> RJ45: The only thing that might go wrong is it will fail to boot with that kernel, which is why I told you to do a "sudo update-grub" after installing the kernel to make sure you can still boot into the old kernel if you have to.
[20:46] <RJ45> ah oki
[20:47] <RJ45> thanks for the helpful advice :)
[20:47] <Eickmeyer> Still, you're putting yourself in a position where your system won't be supported here.
[20:47] <RJ45> is 5.9.0 kernel actually available though? in the non-LTS version of Ubuntu?
[20:47] <Eickmeyer> Nope. Next one should be 5.11 for the HWE kernel.
[20:48] <Eickmeyer> It's a few weeks away.
[20:48] <RJ45> oh okay, maybe I should just stick with the trusty ol' Intel Gigabit ethernet card for a few weeks
[20:49] <RJ45> that thing has saved my ass so many times
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> That's what I would do if you want something *supported*.
[20:50] <RJ45> kind of annoying tho, 'cos it's taking up a whole slot on the motherboard and now my R9 390X wont fit (2.5 slot width), am making do with an old R9 280X
[20:50] <RJ45> but whatever
[20:50] <Eickmeyer> Understandable. That's why the other kernel is use-at-your-own-risk since we can't evaluate it and don't know where it came from.
[20:52] <RJ45> I always seem to have some sort of issue with something when I get Asus motherboards, which is a shame 'cos everything else about their boards is good quality
[20:52] <RJ45> on an older board the ethernet just randomly died completely after working for a while
[20:53] <RJ45> after reading reviews, Gigabite and MSI don't seem to be much better
[20:54] <Eickmeyer> RJ45: Can't advise on hardware here, nor carry-on a conversation outside of the scope of "support", but do what you need to do. It's fairly low risk, but unsupported.
[20:54] <RJ45> thank you, bye :)
[21:10] <mathaichan> hello all,,i'm stuck on an loding initramdsik failed screen and kernel not booting up after the doing an kernel update in ubuntu. i tried every methods i saw on forums,but the problem is still persisitng. can someone help me on this
[21:12] <leftyfb> mathaichan: boot the previous kernel
[21:15] <happyquack> If you can understand the reason behind the new policy that lets rasengan arbitrary take over channels now (https://github.com/freenode/web-7.0/commit/1194a3e71a427a669ccdddee22006416d46eeb43) (https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse), please let me know. His explanation is this: <rasengan> href: Some communities have lost site of their mission and are engaged in a campaign to fracture the FOSS community.  We're attempting to solicit feedback
[21:15] <happyquack> from the community to incorporate better policies to help keep the FOSS community whole.
[21:19] <flaneur> I want to create my own Ubuntu package for extending initramfs with hooks and scripts for CephFS and Ceph RBD. These are just bash scripts so arch is "all" and I don't need any build routines ... . How can I most conveniently create a .deb containing these files. The docs I find seem rather complex.
[21:28] <leftyfb> !ot | happyquack
[22:44] <benpicco> Hi, I managed to break my system by doing a 'sudo checkinstall make install'. I'm getting a 'failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory' for everything (I get a different message for things non-bash of course) but the files are still there.
[22:45] <benpicco> My root fs is on a btrfs subvolume, 'btrfs check' (run from a live system) says everything is fine
[22:46] <leftyfb> benpicco: what did you install?
[22:47] <benpicco> (the files all still haev the executable bit set)
[22:48] <benpicco> leftyfb: I tried to cleanly install the latest projectM since the version in the repo is a mayor version behind
[22:49] <benpicco> (or rather, I wanted to install it in a way I could neatly get rid of it again if the package is updated, since I just had netly set up my fresh system and wanted to keep it tidy)
[22:49] <benpicco> there were some errors that appeared to be caused by spaces in filenames…
[22:53] <benpicco> busybox still works, so I guess I broke libc
[22:56] <benpicco> https://stackoverflow.com/a/46957881/1273684 <- looks like this fixed it, at least now I can chroot into the install again
[22:57] <benpicco> I'm a bit confused on how this could happen from a checkinstall in projectM oO
[22:58] <benpicco> Is there a way to check the installation for consistency with what's to be expected from the installed packages?
[23:03] <benpicco> hmm it can't execute init still
[23:06] <spongeee> hello all, was just reading about memtest-can anyone estimate a completion time mine hangs when i run it and am not sure if its frozen or doing its thing and isolating bad memory;all moving symbols/numbers stop moving after about 30%
[23:07] <spongeee> i have a phenom II, 16G cosair ram and Gigabyte GA-870
[23:07] <spongeee> 4 cores
[23:08] <spongeee> running desktop Ubuntu 20.04
[23:11] <Bashing-om> spongeee: UEFI system ? then: http://www.memtest86.com/ <- proprietary offering .
[23:11] <spongeee> SMBIOS 2.4 present
[23:11] <spongeee> Vendor: Award Software International, Inc.
[23:11] <spongeee> not sure if that is all info required (feedback please)
[23:12] <spongeee> not UEFI its legacy bios
[23:12] <spongeee> Version = FD
[23:13] <spongeee> Release Date: 03/09/2011
[23:17] <Drone> In accordance with https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001923.html we are moving to libera.chat and would love to see you there. Please update your launchpad pages with your libera.chat account to help with transition.
[23:18] <spongeee> Bashing-om, is the opensource version supplied with ubuntu 20.04 unsupported or buggy, why buy it even for uefi?
[23:19] <spongeee> off topic to my question indeed but am curious now
[23:19] <spongeee> dont worry is just read the page lols
[23:20] <spongeee> sry
[23:21] <Bashing-om> spongeee: Still here - just do not know how to assist you as I have never had an issue running memtest :)
[23:37] <Drone> In accordance with https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001923.html we are moving to Libera Chat and would love to see you there! Please update your Launchpad profile with your Libera Chat account as appropriate to help with the transition.
[23:46] <mirak> Is there a way to make ubuntu copy /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/grubx64.efi to /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi ? Instead of  /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/monolithic/grubx64.efi that is copied to /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi
[23:47] <XXCoder> mirak: hi channel moved
[23:47] <XXCoder> see /topic
[23:48] <mirak> ?
[23:48] <kline> mirak, #ubuntu is closing, you will need to join libera.chat to get help
[23:48] <Belial> libera keeps axing me for sasl ident
[23:49] <XXCoder> Belial: lemme get link a sec
[23:49] <kline> Belial, can you PM me the error you get?
[23:49] <Belial> one sec
[23:49] <XXCoder> https://libera.chat/guides/sasl
[23:49] <XXCoder> look at second section
[23:50] <mirak> XXCoder, I am there, thanks
[23:50] <XXCoder> mirak: no problem
[23:51] <XXCoder> Belial: essentally you use kiwi irc register it there, then setup your client sasl
[23:51] <Xavierdarkness> Yeah that's exactly what I had to do
[23:52] <Bashing-om> Belial: One must register 1st - can not do that attempting to access via SSAL. Remove the attempt from your client and try to connect "plain text": /connect irc.libera.chat 6667 - then nick and register.
[23:53] <XXCoder> or just use kiwi irc client. that website is outside blocked ip range
[23:57] <Drone> In accordance with https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001923.html we are moving to Libera Chat and would love to see you there! Please update your Launchpad profile with your Libera Chat account as appropriate to help with the transition.
[23:59] <XXCoder> https://libera.chat/guides/sasl if you cant connect due to sasl error