[00:46] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0Z9OSjEy.png 😛 [00:59] cool,but front camera too sick [01:07] Yeah and the resolution is a little too big [01:55] Dieguesmosken was added by: Dieguesmosken [02:26] @Emily [], finally got it booting? [02:26] Yeah and it's not GSI [02:26] you can change the default scaling in your device configuration [02:27] nice [02:47] D4R1IN9 was added by: D4R1IN9 [02:54] I'd want to try ubports on a redmi 6, which supports gsi, is there something to port anyway or it will just boot? [03:04] hi [03:04] Khajan Singh was added by: Khajan Singh [03:05] your website reports this when i access it with firefox and an ad blocker: [03:05] Error: Traceback: start/def<@https://ubports.com/web/content/110087-6c37976/1/web.assets_frontend_lazy.js:365:1087 [03:06] i'm also wondering whether you'll move to libera.chat, as most of ubuntu is [04:41] KuuroZero was added by: KuuroZero [08:07] I need a little advice about flashing Ubuntu on a Xiaomi Mi A2 which has Android 10 on it. I'm struggling to downgrade it to v9. The phone is completely standard. [08:38] Hi Tomreyn. There is an admin overhead for each new messaging platform and we are stretched for resources, so it isn't just a technical choice of moving elsewhere [09:22] Zedotrabul was added by: Zedotrabul [09:23] Olá gente 👍 [09:30] @Delly7 [I need a little advice about flashing Ubuntu on a Xiaomi Mi A2 which has Android …], Hi, this needs tot be flashed first:https://github.com/ubports-xiaomi-sdm660/artifacts/releases/download/v0.1/jasmine_sprout_stock_android9.zip [09:32] @Jan_ops79 [Hi, this needs tot be flashed first:https://github.com/ubports-xiaomi-sdm660/art …], Thank you. I have that Rom but there are no guides that I can find that show the procedure for flashing it. [09:37] Best follow step by step here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t4UE4SiEL8 [10:01] @Delly7 [I need a little advice about flashing Ubuntu on a Xiaomi Mi A2 which has Android …], check ur display sir on official site it is mentioned i ended up with blank screen [10:01] @D4R1IN9 [check ur display sir on official site it is mentioned i ended up with blank scre …], on mi a2 [10:03] @Jan_ops79 [Best follow step by step here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t4UE4SiEL8], the stok rom file shown in this video also useless [10:03] try with los a9 [10:06] That's why i posted the first link :-) [10:08] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/YTSus8Ih.webp [10:39] Ok, nexus 5 owners time to see if the new version lags anymore: https://open-store.io/app/youtube-web.mateo-salta [10:40] [Edit] Ok, nexus 5 owners time to see if the new version lags anymore, hopefully the slow youtube days are gone: https://open-store.io/app/youtube-web.mateo-salta [10:41] [Edit] Ok, nexus 5(and others noticing choppy viedo) owners time to see if the new version lags anymore, hopefully the slow youtube days are gone: https://open-store.io/app/youtube-web.mateo-salta [10:58] @mateosalta [Ok, nexus 5(and others noticing choppy viedo) owners time to see if the new vers …], are u the dev of this app? [10:59] I maintain, and a few others are helping now [10:59] :) [10:59] Good to hear that, good luck for ur future ventures [11:01] it's basically growing into it's own webapp container pieced together from a lot of different stuff [11:01] some customize the buttons and release with a different website [11:02] or use different blocks of code we all have been working on here and there [11:04] some experiments i try to communicate back to the browser, a lot of times finding what not to do ;) [11:30] can't watch costa rica at 1080p60 😞 [11:33] avc/mp4 seems to still have better performance but resolution options seems to be more limited [11:33] Hej, on xperia x the "restart&install" button won't do anything. [11:33] Any ideas? [11:34] @Luka [Hej, on xperia x the "restart&install" button won't do anything.], Which update are you trying to install and which version are you running? Have you changed your update channel recently? [11:35] I'm asking because I have the same thing, but it's a halium devel update that is hanging and I have moved to stable and am now running OTA17, so I assume it's because the update is superseded. [11:36] I had dev channel current update. I'm downloading the stable version now to se if anything changes [11:36] (And if that is a wrong assumption, someone please correct me.) [11:37] @Javacookies [avc/mp4 seems to still have better performance but resolution options seems to b …], on nexus 5? intresting [11:38] @Javacookies [can't watch costa rica at 1080p60 😞], oh, I don't think any of the devices have 60 :) [11:38] Lenovo tablet [11:39] try the one down a few "4k unbelievable beauty" [11:39] @mateosalta [oh, I don't think any of the devices have 60 :)], i guess so, i just like watching that video at 60 on my projector 😄 [11:39] is like a palm trees and beach [11:40] it has 1080+ [11:40] @Javacookies [Lenovo tablet], in browser or media player? [11:40] althougn not really watchable above that [11:42] browser streaming (webapp) [11:43] @Luka [Hej, on xperia x the "restart&install" button won't do anything.], this is a common issue that happens from time to time 😅 … I think the general rule is to immediately click the install button after the update is downloaded. Don't let it sit for a while. Possible solution is to go to `About> Check for updates` [11:44] @NotKit [in browser or media player?], webapp … local playback of any sorts doesn't work 😅 [11:45] oh, you can also clear the settings app data with uttweak tool [11:45] youtube playback is fine … the nerds stats just shows the dropped frames so that kills the experience mentally 😆 [11:46] is better than before :) [11:47] mp4 was great at 720 barely dropped a few [11:47] although missing videos over an hour, and all streams was not good [11:48] @Javacookies [this is a common issue that happens from time to time 😅 … I think the general rul …], tnx it worked now [11:48] so back to vp9 for stable :) [11:54] still don't know why demobr is smoother at scrolling [11:55] i'm putting it back up in the store soon [11:55] i fixed favorites, but broke the tab thubnails... [11:57] @Luka [tnx it worked now], Did not work for me, so I've just triggered a 'Reinstall all apps' and this seems to be doing some good... [11:58] Still that downloaded version 115 is sitting there, but I don't think it's a problem. It can sit there forever for all I care. [12:08] I just hope it doesn't block updates that I do want. [12:08] You're at the lock scren with an external keyboard plugged in. What's the special keypress to show the passcode dialog? Or is the only way to swipe the screen? [12:11] @klaartje_b [Did not work for me, so I've just triggered a 'Reinstall all apps' and this seem …], That's a bit of overkill if you've got a blocked system update. In fact, I don't think that will help at all. You can resolve this by clearing the `cache` (IIRC) of `System Settings` with the tweak tool. But as Kugi mentioned, you ned t [12:11] o hit that install button ASAP after the update is downloaded. If there hasn't been much of a gap, just mashing the install button a number of times finally registers! [12:12] Thanks, some good hints! [12:14] [Edit] Question; You're at the lock scren with an external keyboard plugged in. What's the special keypress to show the passcode dialog? Or is the only way to swipe the screen? [12:17] @imraniqbal [Question; You're at the lock scren with an external keyboard plugged in. What's …], that keyboard sized icon in the password box [12:19] @mateosalta [that keyboard sized icon in the password box], The keyboard already works when you get to that point! I mean the screen you're on before that, the Ubuntu Touch circle. Any special keypresses available there? [12:23] @imraniqbal [That's a bit of overkill if you've got a blocked system update. In fact, I don' …], It looks like switching to halium devel and back to stable cleared it. [12:25] @klaartje_b [It looks like switching to halium devel and back to stable cleared it.], Yes, switching channels works but isn't always desirable... [12:26] Honestly, I have no idea what I'm doing and I'm just trying stuff. [12:27] Nadeem Mohammed was added by: Nadeem Mohammed [12:27] @klaartje_b [Honestly, I have no idea what I'm doing and I'm just trying stuff.], No problem, have fun with it! I certainly remember trying all options as well, that's the only way you really gain familiarity with Ubuntu Touch. [12:28] It's mostly working really well! [12:35] Stereofont: thanks for your feedback. my guess would be that most admins you had on freenode have since moved to libera, or are planning to do so. but i understand it has an organizational overhead. [12:44] iiuc we're strechted so thin if freenode becomes a problem the irc channel will simply be closed [12:46] as iiuc the admins on freenode are also admins on telegram and irc isn't mentioned on the website [12:46] is there lomiri sdk for rust? [12:46] support Qt and Rust [12:47] i see. so it's just a matter of what you consider a problem now. i had moved #ubuntu-touch (which forwards irc'ers to #ubports) to the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList#IRC.2FChannelList.2FDisaffiliated.Disaffiliated_.2F_Deprecated yesterday [12:48] it lists popey as admin [12:51] oh cool, but yeah it's just a matter of what the admins consider a problem [12:58] @Jan_ops79 [Best follow step by step here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t4UE4SiEL8], Thank you. I will try your suggestions. [13:03] @klaartje_b [I just hope it doesn't block updates that I do want.], You could switch to rc to push it out of the way if it does become a problem [13:03] @Stereofont [You could switch to rc to push it out of the way if it does become a problem], Thanks, it seems to be gone now. [13:13] my other fix is to turn off wifi/mobile data while in the update page then turn it back on to refresh the update. [13:14] @imraniqbal [Question; You're at the lock scren with an external keyboard plugged in. What's …], have you tried enter? … if that doesn't work then i think that's my complain too 😄 [13:17] @mateosalta [still don't know why demobr is smoother at scrolling], smoother than morph? [13:51] @xlmnxp [support Qt and Rust], you can build your app in rust if you want, but Qt is still a C++ library. [13:53] @Javacookies [have you tried enter? … if that doesn't work then i think that's my complain too � …], I tried mashing all of the keys on the keyboard and I'm pretty sure I hit `Enter` while doing that! If anything, it might be a key combination. `Ctrl+Alt+Del` gives a menu that I haven't seen otherwise. [14:07] kimurawa was added by: kimurawa [14:07] i guess it's not implemented since the swipable page is not on the wide layout where a physical keyboard will more likely be used. [14:13] @Javacookies [i guess it's not implemented since the swipable page is not on the wide layout w …], Ah, right. 100% keyboard-only operation isn't possible in other places as well. Thanks for sharing that info. [14:34] I think the swipable page should be present in both layouts and should be dismissable with direct typing of password/passcode or maybe just enter … there is a forum discussion about the lock screen but this part I think hasn't been talked aboit [17:25] @mateosalta [still don't know why demobr is smoother at scrolling], wait, did you implement the hide header when scrolling feature? that's missing in morph and the wip PR seems to have issues with it. This could help with that 😄 [17:28] interesting question, I am thinking of buying new phone and putting ubuntu touch on it. If I buy a phone with 32gb storage and I want more, how... sd card works on redmi note 7? is it possible to offload apps to sdcard or not? [17:30] (mainly use my phone for: Youtube, Twitter, Spotify, Equalizer and 2nd authentication). [17:31] offloading apps on a sd card is not supported on ubuntu touch [17:32] @Ilja Zero [(mainly use my phone for: Youtube, Twitter, Spotify, Equalizer and 2nd authentic …], It is possible to use and equalizer once TU? [17:33] @Ilja Zero [(mainly use my phone for: Youtube, Twitter, Spotify, Equalizer and 2nd authentic …], [Edit] It is possible to use an equalizer onUT? [17:33] @Ilja Zero [(mainly use my phone for: Youtube, Twitter, Spotify, Equalizer and 2nd authentic …], [Edit] It is possible to use an equalizer on UT? [17:33] UT apps aren't big anyway so it's not much needed 😄 [17:33] idk I was thinking that it is linux, so.. something like APO should be there :D [17:33] I need more storage cuz on my android, I am downloading A LOT of stuff for offline, my music alone is around 8gbs [17:34] I want to buy 64gb version, but for some reason, in my country I see max 32gb version of redmi 7 [17:35] @Ilja Zero [I need more storage cuz on my android, I am downloading A LOT of stuff for offli …], Your music can go on SD [17:36] also, did anyone tried to use anbox with something like smart-id/banking apps. like https://www.smart-id.com/ [17:37] @Ilja Zero [also, did anyone tried to use anbox with something like smart-id/banking apps. l …], If the app uses Google Play services or needs to check SafetyNet status, then it will not work [17:37] thanks [17:38] Also, yesterday I read in forum that Anbox on Redmi Note 7 is not tested, so, not sure if you can run an Android app at all [17:38] well, if you install some things it might work. but there are other things that will break, like bootloader lock checks and such [17:40] hmm, is there something in 100-230euros price range that works nice with ubuntu touch? [17:41] xperia x [17:41] pixel 3a [17:42] pixel3a works? [17:45] mostly afaik; there's an issue with using 4g afaik. and with MMS (but i think this is an issue on all devices still) [17:56] Fyi: MMS and 4g works on xiaomi mi a2. Maybe depending on carrier? [17:56] @Jan_ops79 [Fyi: MMS and 4g works on xiaomi mi a2. Maybe depending on carrier?], Works for me [17:57] *mms never tried but 4g works [17:59] Only issue so far is camera app when filming. Hangs when start filming. Works right after changing resolution. [18:00] So all in all great daily driver :-) [18:03] 😍yes [18:08] N was added by: N [18:14] umTLG was added by: umTLG [18:16] @D4R1IN9 [😍yes], Anbox is working on Pixel 3a? [18:22] @LGeek [Anbox is working on Pixel 3a?], The now not yet Alfred is working on the kernel... [18:22] @LGeek [Anbox is working on Pixel 3a?], [Edit] The new not yet Alfred is working on the kernel... [18:23] @LGeek [Anbox is working on Pixel 3a?], [Edit] The new one not yet Alfred is working on the kernel... [18:41] @ruditimmer [The new one not yet Alfred is working on the kernel...], Thank you for the info :) [18:47] Hi, does anybody know how to mark text in terminal app? [18:49] I am only able to do that with external mouse. … How to do that just with "touch" (gesture)? [18:49] @umTLG [I am only able to do that with external mouse. … How to do that just with "touch" …], long press on space bar to enter cursor selection mode? [18:57] @umTLG [Hi, does anybody know how to mark text in terminal app?], long press and choose select [18:57] Thanks for the hint! But I can't test right now. … I am connected with external periphery in convergence mode. Due to a bug the external monitor gets only black signal after unplug and replug-in ... need to reboot or restart lightdm than ... means closing all apps ... [18:57] on the terminal window not on spacebar [19:02] Phone's screen is a "touch pad" in convergence mode, showing two buttons for left and right mouse clicks. Very cool feature actually ... … But I can trigger on screen keyboard and then long click on space (with mouse) - which changes keyboard to something saing "double tab to enter selection mode". Thats promising! Thanks again for pointin [19:02] g there! [19:09] @umTLG [Phone's screen is a "touch pad" in convergence mode, showing two buttons for lef …], Sorry, is that working at the moment? What phone? [19:09] On my N5 it never did (the "screen to touchpad" thing) [19:15] I am using a F(x)tec Pro1 . … This one: https://twitter.com/Mariogrip/status/1296593450025070594 [19:21] And the dock from the Pine(Phone)-Shop. … As soon I plugin the HDMI cable connected to my TV/monitor, the phones screen switches to "black" (the touchpad area) and the two gray mouse buttons. … Plugging the HDMI cable out the screen goes back to phone mode . … Bug: When plugging it in again, the external screen gets a signal, but it is onl [19:21] y "black". The phone's screen is as expected: Black touch area plus gray mouse buttons ... [19:23] I would like to know if there is a command line tool for "looking for upgrades" (and install updates" in Ubuntu Touch UBports. … Something like apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ...? [19:24] May I ask why? I mean there are ways, but they require the device to be connected to a PC and using adb. [19:25] @umTLG [I would like to know if there is a command line tool for "looking for upgrades" …], you can open system settings and go to updates page [19:27] @umTLG [I would like to know if there is a command line tool for "looking for upgrades" …], Like many mobile OS Ubuntu Touch uses the "over-the-air" image-based upgrade method. You wont get much benefit of doign upgrades between OTA releases [19:27] Its not a desktop distro at all ^^ [19:28] We invest so much time into making the GUI work fine for a reason [19:28] @umTLG [I would like to know if there is a command line tool for "looking for upgrades" …], there is system-image-cli [19:28] Because in system settings it feels like ages to wait until there is a "feedback" (which is "no updates" mostly ;) ) . No "progress" at all. I was just hoping for some lines in terminal showing whatsgoing on ... [19:29] @umTLG [Because in system settings it feels like ages to wait until there is a "feedback …], No updates means no updates if you are on the stable channel ^^ [19:29] If you switch release channels you can get more updates, but it might break your phone [19:29] @NotKit [there is system-image-cli], Only works properly from within adb [19:29] I am on "developer channel" , maybe thats why it takes so long ... [19:29] you can SSH into device via USB network instead [19:30] If you expect system-image-cli to print more info, you will be severely disappointed. [19:30] it has -v switch [19:30] It won't list packages though, if he's looking for the apt experience. [19:31] Ah, the USB network ... there I have another question ... [19:32] (we don't have a proper way to enable that on devices that have ADB enabled...) [19:33] Does anyone know where the IP address 10.15.19.82 is set up? … I could not find a conf for it ... [19:36] I only ask because the USB network address 10.15.19.82 gets an /8 netmask. So it gets ALL 10.0.0.0 traffic. Very disturbing when getting DNS servers in NATed environements (for example german mobile data). [19:36] That one is hard coded. But it seems as if the Pro1 is one of the devices without proper adb support. That should change IMO. [19:38] Yep hard coded ... but why with 255.0.0.0 netmask . Wouldn't be 255.255.255.0 be enough? Like 10.15.19.0/24 ? [19:39] @umTLG [Yep hard coded ... but why with 255.0.0.0 netmask . Wouldn't be 255.255.255.0 be …], Well it was always meant to just be a debug port. So if you accessing it for debug it would not be expected to cause those problems [19:42] Yeah, it's the same with "release to manufacturer" devices, one doesn't simply keep the debug ports open like that. ADB is the way to go. [19:42] Well on my Pro1 I have never attached an working USB networking device. Even the USB eth link is down, the 10.0.0.0 traffic is routed through that "device". So no DNS resolving while on mobile data. [19:43] Does the USB network device (and the route) disappear when switching to stable channel? [19:43] Probably not [19:45] I have a route delete command in rc.local. I can live with that. … But I think the hard coded USB IP address could go with a much smaller netmask. [19:45] @Flohack [No updates means no updates if you are on the stable channel ^^], he means it takes to longs to say "no updates" :p [19:45] Exactly .. thanks Tobiyo! [19:46] @Flohack [No updates means no updates if you are on the stable channel ^^], [Edit] he means it takes too long to say "no updates" :p [19:47] granted we should have push notifs when there are updates [19:47] not sure if that working atm tho [19:47] @Fuseteam [granted we should have push notifs when there are updates], Should work [19:48] @umTLG [Well on my Pro1 I have never attached an working USB networking device. Even the …], Thats interesting. That interface should be down when nothing is connected, why there is an active route into it? [19:48] so there's basically no reason to check for update on stable [19:48] just sit back and relax :3 [19:49] [Edit] so there's basically no reason to check for updates on stable [19:49] B-b-b-but that's too easy! There has to be something I need to do! 😜 [19:50] well someone is messing with installing cli apps :3 [19:51] It is down: … ip a ... … 8: usb0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN group default qlen 1000 … link/ether 2e:d7:51:be:4c:29 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff [19:51] … inet 10.15.19.82/8 brd 10.255.255.255 scope global usb0 [19:51] … valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ip route … default via 192.168.0.1 dev wlan0 proto static metric 600 … default via 10.51.49.61 dev rmnet_data0 proto static metric 700 … 10.15.19.0/24 dev usb0 proto kernel scope link src 10.15.19.82 linkdown [19:51] … 10.51.49.61 dev rmnet_data0 proto static scope link metric 700 … 192.168.0.0/24 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.117 metric 600 … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ [19:52] @umTLG [It is down: … ip a ... … 8: usb0: mtu 1500 qdisc …], Well thats strange the route says linkdown as expected for this entry [19:52] The 10.15.19.0/24 I set in /etc/rc.local during boot. It would be 10.15.19.0/8 otherwise. [19:53] It could be kind of a bug for some users if its still being used. Idk why the kernel does this, but ok, lets change the netmask then [19:54] The ethernet coming with the connected dock (via usb-c) is not in the play ... there is no driver (yet) for r8152 in 16.04 ... :( [19:54] @umTLG [The ethernet coming with the connected dock (via usb-c) is not in the play ... t …], That wont change with 20.04 sorry to say [19:55] Florian, could you point to the source where it is "hard coded"? [19:55] Your kernel stays on the old version you have now [19:55] we cannot upograde kernels on Android devices [19:55] @umTLG [Florian, could you point to the source where it is "hard coded"?], No I cant. Idk where this is coming from, probably initrd generation [19:55] Ah maybe not, maybe its in /etc/init somehwere [19:56] can you grep this dir [19:57]