[00:03] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Fredlund> Off to bed, starts working in 4,5 hours
[00:03] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Fredlund> and kids start to wake up in 4 hours
 Rest well o/
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/bvvZKqjv.webp
 so i like a readonly rootfs and i also like commandline applications like tree, vim, nmap, git and then some but they don't exactly like each other. there's always something crackling, so i made [crackle](http://gitlab.com/xiaofuse/crackle) :P … what it does: … - "install" deb packages and dependences from apt … - clean up broken symlink
[00:40] <ubptgbot> s and left over deb files … what it does do (yet): … - keep track of what it installed … - remove installed packages
 [Edit] so i like a readonly rootfs and i also like commandline applications like tree, vim, nmap, git and then some but they don't exactly like each other. there's always something crackling, so i made [crackle](http://gitlab.com/xiaofuse/crackle) :P … what it does: … - "install" deb packages and dependences from apt … - clean up broken
[00:40] <ubptgbot> symlinks and left over deb files … what it does do (yet): … - keep track of what it installed … - remove installed packages … - upgrade packages … - configure packages … - ???
 @libremax [But not with mainline kernel], mainline kernel support on OnePlus 5/5T (or MSM8998 in general) is rather poor currently; first of all the performance is abouit 7 times worse than it should be (compared to downstream or SDM845 mainline) and I still have no idea why.
 @LGeek [Anbox is working on Pixel 3a?], Dont know there are some unofficial methods ask device maintainer
 @libremax [But not with mainline kernel], [Edit] mainline kernel support on OnePlus 5/5T (or MSM8998 in general) is rather poor currently; first of all the performance is about 7 times worse than it should be (compared to downstream or SDM845 mainline) and I still have no idea why, but that's the least of the issues.
[01:46] <ubptgbot> xSatriouz was added by: xSatriouz
 [Edit] so i like a readonly rootfs and i also like commandline applications like tree, vim, nmap, git and then some but they don't exactly like each other. there's always something crackling, so i made [crackle](http://gitlab.com/xiaofuse/crackle) :P … what it does: … - "install" deb packages and dependences from apt … - clean up broken
[02:01] <ubptgbot> symlinks and left over deb files … what it does do (yet): … - keep track of what it installed … - remove installed packages … - upgrade packages … - configure packages … - handle "installing" multiple packages … - ???
 is ota 17 out yet for the Oneplus 3t?
 it should be out for all devices withtrhe stable channel
 @Javacookies [it should be out for all devices withtrhe stable channel], Not showing in installer yet ota may b
 [Edit] so i like a readonly rootfs and i also like commandline applications like tree, vim, nmap, git and then some but they don't exactly like each other. there's always something crackling, so i made crackle :P … what it does: … - "install" deb packages and dependences from apt … - clean up broken symlinks and left over deb files … - c
[03:31] <ubptgbot> rack deb packages open to see the file structure … what it does do (yet): … - keep track of what it installed … - remove installed packages … - upgrade packages … - configure packages … - handle "installing" multiple packages … - ???
 ok, thanks!
 Has anyone tried installing a standard Ubuntu system on nexus7?
 @Jan_ops79 [Best follow step by step here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t4UE4SiEL8], I've followed the video guide for flashing TWRP exactly as shown but not my phone is bootlooping the 'androidone' splash screen instead of booting into TWRP recovery. Any advice please?
 [Edit] so i like a readonly rootfs and i also like commandline applications like tree, vim, nmap, git and then some but they don't exactly like each other. there's always something crackling, so i made crackle :P … what it does: … - "install" deb packages and dependences from apt … - clean up broken symlinks and left over deb files … - c
[09:57] <ubptgbot> rack deb packages open to see the file structure … what it does do (yet): … - keep track of what it installed … - remove installed packages … - upgrade packages … - configure packages … - handle "installing" multiple packages … - ??? … working packages … - vim … - tmux … - byobu … - tree … - nmap … - mc
 Ok, so I used fastboot flash boot rec.img and it's now working. Next issue is an error when I try to flash the stock android v9 image.
 Can you follow the steps here? In TWRP - advanced- adb sideload, the on computerside adb sideload filename.zip:https://geekyflow.com/adb-sideload-download
 Something has gone wrong as the phone is now stuck on the 'androidone' splash and although I can get to Fastboot, all commands fail, including fastboot boot rec.img.
 @Delly7 [Something has gone wrong as the phone is now stuck on the 'androidone' splash an …], try asking here @shoukolab
 @Fuseteam [so i like a readonly rootfs and i also like commandline applications like tree, …], Nice
 @Fuseteam [so i like a readonly rootfs and i also like commandline applications like tree, …], [Edit] Nice👍
 @TronFortyTwo [Nice👍], does need a lot of testing tho :3
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/1h5Nrt65.png When people tell you Firefox won't work well on UT but you just won't listen:
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/AyHIc0de.png When people tell you Firefox won't work well on UT but you just won't listen: so you do crackle install firefox
 In my ideal world we'd have a UT version of Waterfox.
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], OK you got our attention 😊 So can you write up in a more persistent place (like github/lab README or maybe ubports forum) a bit more detail on what it does and link the source?
 lol finally :P
 the source is at https://gitlab.com/xiaofuse/crackle
 i still need to get around to write a readme at this stage
 [Edit] so i like a readonly rootfs and i also like commandline applications like tree, vim, nmap, git and then some but they don't exactly like each other. there's always something crackling, so i made [crackle](http://gitlab.com/xiaofuse/crackle) :P … what it does: … - "install" deb packages and dependences from apt … - clean up broken
[11:54] <ubptgbot> symlinks and left over deb files … - crack deb packages open to see the file structure … what it does do (yet): … - keep track of what it installed … - remove installed packages … - upgrade packages … - configure packages … - handle "installing" multiple packages … - ??? … working packages … - vim … - tmux … - byobu … - tree … - nmap … - mc
 [Edit] the source is linked at https://t.me/ubports/342961
 @klaartje_b [In my ideal world we'd have a UT version of Waterfox.], is waterfox even in the ubuntu archives?
 I don't think it is (not that I use Ubuntu).
 sadly then crackle would crack it :P
 [Edit] sadly then crackle would crack it
 I wouldn't know. I've never heard of it before.
 of course you haven't i just wrote that bash script this week
 [Edit] of course you haven't i just wrote that bash script last week :P
 That just proves that my mind reading capacities are imperfect.
 Lol
 Which is probably reassuring, more than anything else 😉
 Maybe
 [Edit] Maybe:p
 [Edit] Maybe :p
 fwiw all crackle really does is download the deb file and extract to some folder
 Ah. Yeah, that won't work if it's not in the repos, I guess.
 if there's a deb package somewhere dpkg-deb could work tho (which is what crackles uses to extract)
 Hi, can anyone help me?I can not install Ubuntu Touch in Nexus 4 by UBPorts, when transferring the files it from an error
 @Javacookies [smoother than morph?], maybe, try scrolling up and down on the youtube front page really fast in either
 @RoninLima [Hi, can anyone help me?I can not install Ubuntu Touch in Nexus 4 by UBPorts, whe …], It's always helpful to tell people what the error is.
 @mateosalta [maybe, try scrolling up and down on the youtube front page really fast in either], can't tell the difference much but it does feel smooth on demo browser
 but what I'm really curious is the auto hide of the navigation bar … did you add it or part of the original codes?
 part of it
 I think they actually used a trick though
 @klaartje_b [It's always helpful to tell people what the error is.], I'll share a print
 is the user vin4ter in any of these roos
 [Edit] is the user vin4ter in any of these rooms
 @karlin5233 [Error: adb:push: Error: {"error":{"code":1},"stdout":"adb: error: failed to copy …], This
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/O2uwJASK.png
 @RoninLima [<reply to media>], please copy paste the full error
 @klaartje_b [In my ideal world we'd have a UT version of Waterfox.], you know what could work? nix
 the nix package manager can actually work on ut, at least on arm64 where it doesn't need to compile all the time
 i was looking at his browser, and it seems while he uploaded proprietary, all the source code including cpp and pro files are in the click, quite a mistake if you are buliding something like that
 I wanted to maybe help show him how to do compiled qt to fix that
 him?
 [Edit] I wanted to maybe help show them how to do compiled qt to fix that
 @Fuseteam [him?], oh, whops
 @mateosalta [oh, whops], confused
 https://open-store.io/app/pure.web.vin4ter.alex
 ah
 looks cool, but broken, using too new imports
 strange it uploaded with such new qtquick?
 hmm yeah open store needs dev contact information
 a quick note and i could help  from all the code leaked
 the author seems to alexey tho
 diffrent packager publisher?
 it does look like it
 (Photo, 248x51) https://irc.ubports.com/48BvpdcD.png
 ah, there is an email in the manifest
 cool I let them know, maybe it was just a side project and not important
 wish that aida64 made the same mistake...
 hmmm who uses libettine can knows how to find the desktop file? now i kinda want to take a look at the desktop file of a libertine app
 @mateosalta [cool I let them know, maybe it was just a side project and not important], cool
 @mateosalta [wish that aida64 made the same mistake...], lol
 we are forever stuck with the armhf version only
 forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.....
 Can anyone recommend a good satnav app for UT?
 there are two, pure maps, and unav
[14:25] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> so interesting question, if I have android device, can I somehow check if application X would run inside anbox? Also, is there any way to check if application X uses google services?
 probally most things wont work well enough for normal use
 some got some chat apps going, but you wont get notifocations, no hardware yet so text only
 there was a bug that landscape didnt work
 there is a new effort to get hardware going but not in a ready to test state yet
[14:28] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> I am asking for android thing mainly cuz I have special authentication app from my bank (smart-id) and I am kinda interested if it is at least partially compatible with anbox. as long as I could open app and write pin code, all ok
 depends on the security, they may check for if the phone is locked
 if that is the case it may never work
 if it is a simple 2factor it is poasible it could
[14:31] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> so, when I am using that app.. its very strange, my phone never receives notifications and I need to click inside and its not really simple, If I remember correctly, you can't even ... backup app and use it on other device, unless you go into your bank and ask them to re-register it to the new device.
 oh...
 and there are no alternatives?
 like call, or text?
[14:34] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> well, I could use code card (pre-made 30 codes) or I anyways gonna have one android device 100% at home.. or maybe I could run virtual android on my pc :D
 intresting
 I'd be interested to see you drag a PC into your local bank branch and ask them to re-register the virtual Android with their 2fa app thingy
[14:39] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> okay so I think you can still download app.. as an apk, you don't even need market (I think), because on site, min req. is android 5, but they also say that you can use older version of app on android 4, thou you will probably miss some features. So I think app is independent of ... google services?
 @PiecerEdd [I'd be interested to see you drag a PC into your local bank branch and ask them …], I've seen people use their PC inside a tent in a field, with a CRT monitor. Nothing surprises me anymore.
[14:49] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> well, I asked their support team, maybe they use all custom system, because I think they only use google services for notifications but for other stuff... they just use their own https server.
[14:49] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> and tbh I don't need notification because I know that I need to authorize payment... when I actually pay for stuff :D
 maybe ask them to support ubuntu touch itself xD
 @klaartje_b [I've seen people use their PC inside a tent in a field, with a CRT monitor. Noth …], point taken 😂 as someone who works at an outdoors retailer that sells tents I have seen this too!
 @RoninLima [Hi, can anyone help me?I can not install Ubuntu Touch in Nexus 4 by UBPorts, whe …], Nexus 4 is a struggle. Partitioning and often a loose/damaged micro USB port
 @Ilja Zero [well, I could use code card (pre-made 30 codes) or I anyways gonna have one andr …], A spare zombie Android device is still the best answer for those officialdom things
[16:07] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> what does zombie android mean"? is it like//. old android device?
 Error: adb:push: Error: {"error":{"code":1},"stdout":"adb: error: failed to copy 'C:\\Users\\multilaser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\ubports-a95fdf05c877099caaabe104ff9b7b1a848ee4868b74c23f1f13232b58d9085d.tar.xz' to '/cache/recovery/ubports-a95fdf05c877099caaabe104ff9b7b1a848ee4868b74c23f1f13232b58d9085d.tar.xz': rem
[16:12] <ubptgbot> ote No space left on device\r\nC:\\Users\\multilaser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\ubports-a95fdf05c877099caaabe104ff9b7b1a848ee4868b74c23f1f13232b58d9085d.tar.xz: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 2.0 MB/s (368184352 bytes in 171.350s)\r\nC:\\Users\\multilaser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\ubports-a95fdf05c877099caaabe1
[16:12] <ubptgbot> 04ff9b7b1a848ee4868b74c23f1f13232b58d9085d.tar.xz.asc: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 0.0 MB/s (488 bytes in 0.096s)\r\nC:\\Users\\multilaser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\device-b1e0f3b792f6e54c8c6db40a3e5d96350be273587605620d753de27373497b6f.tar.xz: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 1.9 MB/s (71505556 bytes in 35.766s)\r\nC:\\Users\\multilas
[16:12] <ubptgbot> er\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\device-b1e0f3b792f6e54c8c6db40a3e5d96350be273587605620d753de27373497b6f.tar.xz.asc: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 0.0 MB/s (488 bytes in 0.115s)\r\nC:\\Users\\multilaser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\keyring-28992f008be20d562ea06745f563d3abe00b08da1b16e5b92e448e2d4ba21e9f.tar.xz: 1 fi
[16:12] <ubptgbot> le pushed, 0 skipped. 0.2 MB/s (1564 bytes in 0.008s)\r\nC:\\Users\\multilaser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\keyring-28992f008be20d562ea06745f563d3abe00b08da1b16e5b92e448e2d4ba21e9f.tar.xz.asc: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 0.0 MB/s (488 bytes in 0.053s)\r\nC:\\Users\\multilaser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\version-
[16:12] <ubptgbot> 15.tar.xz: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 0.3 MB/s (468 bytes in 0.001s)\r\nC:\\Users\\multilaser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\version-15.tar.xz.asc: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 0.0 MB/s (488 bytes in 0.074s)\r\nC:\\Users\\multilaser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\image-signing.tar.xz: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 0.0 MB/s
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[16:12] <ubptgbot> aser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\image-master.tar.xz.asc: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 0.0 MB/s (488 bytes in 0.077s)\r\nC:\\Users\\multilaser\\AppData\\Roaming\\ubports\\mako\\Ubuntu Touch\\ubuntu_command: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 0.0 MB/s (716 bytes in 0.101s)\r\n13 files pushed, 0 skipped. 2.0 MB/s (439697424 bytes in 210.689s)
[16:12] <ubptgbot> "}
 this is the error that is appearing in the ubports installer
 @Ilja Zero [what does zombie android mean"? is it like//. old android device?], Sorry. I mean just an old phone that you only use for special stuffs
 @RoninLima [Error: adb:push: Error: {"error":{"code":1},"stdout":"adb: error: failed to copy …], `No space left on device` did you ever repartition your device?
 not how I do
 I repartitioned it once to install the lineage 17 but then I went back to stock
 how do I solve this partition?
 From memory you have to enlarge it first
 @Stereofont [From memory you have to enlarge it first], how do i do that?
 @RoninLima [I repartitioned it once to install the lineage 17 but then I went back to stock], ah that's the issue, the partition layout was not restored to stock, you will have to do that manually
 @RoninLima [how do i do that?], how did you repartition the first time around?
 @farkasdvd, does indicator-datetime#29 require indicator-datetime#30 to function properly?
 @Fuseteam [how did you repartition the first time around?], by a mako_clamor zip and then typing in the twrp terminal modify
 then he did the entire partitioning process on his own
 hmmm
 how do i do not leave the stock partition?
 here this can help i think: https://t.me/WelcomePlus/70624
 Same for Nexus 4?
 will this tutorial go back to stock?
 The Nexus 4 is very tight for space. That is why it is a bit tricky
 @RoninLima [will this tutorial go back to stock?], this tutorial explains how to repartition
 ok i will try here and come back to give feedback
 there in the tutorial they are sending you to install a zip file to restore an original partition, is that the only thing?
 (Photo, 1080x679) https://irc.ubports.com/N0yDSVXs.png Just wondering, if anyone in here had this many unread messages?
 why am I tagged in this?
 @RoninLima [there in the tutorial they are sending you to install a zip file to restore an o …], please just follow the instructions, it should help you as it has helped a few others in @welcomeplus
 @Atti [<reply to media>], oof
 @Shakendo [why am I tagged in this?], hmmm good question 🤔
 yes from what i read in the tutorial there they say to go back to the original repartitioning and just flash a zip that they created
 @RoninLima [yes from what i read in the tutorial there they say to go back to the original r …], you only need to return to the original partitioning and run the ubports installer
 ok
[17:58] <ubptgbot> Ernest was added by: Ernest
 hi friends of opensource 😄. i need some help with info.  where i can finde config file for APN ? In settings it doesn't save
 maybi have config file for install settings APN
 [Edit] maybi have config file for install settings APN ?
 Are their any other browsers for ubports
 yes and no
 Ok
 Be nice to have an alternative
 Any way to
 Any way to make scrolling smother on redmi note 7
 (Voice, 0s) https://irc.ubports.com/tm5RG2n1.oga
 @Ernest [hi friends of opensource 😄. i need some help with info.  where i can finde conf …], Usually, try the SIM in an Android phone and write down the settings from there. Otherwise, many cell providers publish their APN settings online. Or their support will help
 @darthsavaloy [Any way to make scrolling smother on redmi note 7], Best to join the forum thread on that device. Questions can get lost here
 OK
 @Stereofont [Best to join the forum thread on that device. Questions can get lost here], Depend more on the country
[18:40] <ubptgbot> Rdrowe was added by: Rdrowe
[19:31] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> btw, what ubuntu version redmi note 7 at max can have? like, is it possible to use 16.04?
 ubuntu touch is only based on 16.04 currently
 It already runs Ubuntu 16.04.7 over UT
[19:32] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> also, if you have note 7, can you tell me if it supports anbox and if there are limitations with it.
[19:34] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> I heard that google services not running and other security stuff, but if talking in general, are apps running and if anbox persists when you block device/or at least supports saving "last state", so when i come back, same application is open/
 well, yes. google play services is proprietary and we cannot ship it with anbox image
 @Ilja Zero [btw, what ubuntu version redmi note 7 at max can have? like, is it possible to u …], on RN7 I have running ota 16.04 (ota-17)
[20:09] <ubptgbot> <Ilja Zero> thx
 What’s best modern tablet for ubports
 So anbox working on redmi note 7
 @darthsavaloy [What’s best modern tablet for ubports], There is some work done with a Sony tablet bit I don't think fully supported yet
 And one by Lenovo.
 Ahah
 hmk