[03:12] <wyoung> Lets discuss
[18:16] <isapgswell> hi everyone
[18:17] <isapgswell> why ubuntu has X mouse acceleration via xset and Xorg acceleration too ?
[18:19] <isapgswell> and how the definitive way to disable mouse acceleration
[18:23] <isapgswell> on X and gnome-shell
[18:27] <sarnold> isapgswell: probably, xinput to find the the names of your devices, xinput list-props "USB Optical Mouse"  (but with your device name) to see the properties, and then some xinput set-props to change the acceleration properties
[18:32] <isapgswell> sarnold, thx
[18:32] <isapgswell> sarnold i usually do: xset m 0/1 0
[18:33] <isapgswell> sarnold, and set flat option on mouse acceleration gnome-tweaks
[18:33] <isapgswell> in my home folder, i create the file .xsessionrc with: xset m 0/1 0
[18:34] <sarnold> isapgswell: oh yeah, I remember using xset m for that now.. does that still work?
[18:34] <isapgswell> sarnold yes for sure, and a would like to see this option m 0/1 0 for default
[18:35] <isapgswell> x and gnome-shell acceleration for what?? LAG??
[18:36] <isapgswell> i play cs go, with it's acceleration too, oh my god!!!
[18:37] <isapgswell> sarnold if you want permanent xset conf, create a file in home folder called .xsessionrc with this: xset m 0/1 0
[18:39] <sarnold> isapgswell: thankfully I've been happy with whatever my defaults are when using i3wm
[18:40] <isapgswell> sarnold good, are you using ubuntu 20.04?
[18:40] <sarnold> isapgswell: yeah
[18:41] <isapgswell> sarnold i3wm its better than mutter?
[18:42] <sarnold> isapgswell: I don't think I tried mutter..
[18:42] <sarnold> isapgswell: oh yeah, I've never tried it
[18:43] <isapgswell> sarnold is it hard too try out? i3wm?
[18:44] <sarnold> isapgswell: it's pretty easy, you just need to change the configuration from using jkl; keys to hjkl instead for changing focus and moving windows, and then you just dive right in
[18:45] <sarnold> the user guide is pretty good https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html
[18:45] <isapgswell> sarnold good!
[18:47] <sarnold> isapgswell: here's my config https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BGVQzprbRk/ -- sorry it's not an easy diff to see what I changed, but I think at this point it was just moving the jkl; to hjkl -- moving the h to g -- and moving from alt to the windows key
[18:48] <isapgswell> sarnold i3wm works with steam?
[18:48] <sarnold> isapgswell: I've never tried steam, but I suspect it'd be fine, I expect steam to take over the screen entirely
[18:48] <sarnold> isapgswell: maybe you'd get tearing if you're not using a compositor with i3, I never figured out how that stuff works, I don't play much video on this machine, so occasional tearing while watching rocket launches is fine :)
[18:50] <isapgswell> sarnold wow
[18:50] <isapgswell> sarnold i3wm is lightweight
[18:51] <sarnold> isapgswell: yeah; it doesn't work for everyone, but it mostly works for me. I ran it around 2010-2012 and loved it, then used unity from 2012 until 2017 or something, and switched back when we killed unity
[18:51] <sarnold> isapgswell: I don't know what exactly changed or doesn't feel right, but it works well enough that I haven't gone looking for a replacement, hehe
[18:54] <isapgswell> sarnold yes, amazing!
[18:57] <isapgswell> sarnold mutter doesnt have many options for conf
[18:59] <sarnold> isapgswell: where i3wm has a *lot* of options and I've barely scratched the surface :)
[19:01] <isapgswell> sarnold yep
[19:01] <isapgswell> sarnold i dont like so much mutter
[19:02] <isapgswell> sarnold maybe i switch a try another