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[01:01] <wyoung> Drone: Is it OK if I hang out here too?
[01:05] <LjL> wyoung, it's just a bot. you can hang out, but the actual support happens in the other place
[01:07] <greyblue9> so yes as long as you don't mind the occasional PSAs
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[01:47] <wyoung> LjL: OK, does that mean I can be offtopic here now?
[01:48] <LjL> wyoung, i don't know, i'm not an op. i assume not much attention will be paid.
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[02:14] <Sven_vB> hi :) I hope libera.chat will support TOR soon. Until then, I'll try my luck here anyway: Is there a way on focal 64bit to run one program (tinyproxy) with a different combination of default gateway and network rules, than its parent process had?
[02:15]  * Toadisattva also keen for Libera to offer TOR support
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[02:18] <skr> Sven_vB, tinyproxy config file has option to bind to specific address and some more basic options... anything else you should be marking your packets and matching them with specific rules (see https://superuser.com/a/1048913 for an example)
[02:22] <sarnold> Sven_vB: write a wrapper to use unshare() or setns() or similar before executing tinyproxy?
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[02:41] <Toadisattva> it's kinda funny
[02:41] <Toadisattva> kuz they keep directing everyone to go to the room on libera instead of here
[02:41] <Toadisattva> but that room is ded
[02:42] <Toadisattva> and this one is actually active
[02:48] <MalkbabY> That's it, going back to EFNET :P
[02:55] <kryten> Toadisattva: I believe your impression is slightly skewed there though, since I even got both sides in one window..
[02:56] <greyblue9> wyoung: <off-topic> why not
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[03:01] <notabot01> https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ev8y/freenode-open-source-korea-crown-prince-takeover
[03:01] <notabot01> https://hackaday.com/2021/05/22/irc-will-never-die/
[03:01] <notabot01> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
[03:02] <wyoung> .o/
[03:02] <wyoung> Sven_vB: Why bother with TOR?
[03:02] <kryten> notabot01: Fine.. please leave now though.
[03:02] <wyoung> You like filling out captchas or something?
[03:04] <cispra> wyoung: depends on the captcha https://vivirenremoto.github.io/doomcaptcha/
[03:05] <wyoung> haha
[03:05] <wyoung> I'm going to use that to tick a box :P
[03:06] <wyoung> "Does your form use captchas: ✅"
[03:14] <Sven_vB> skr, sarnold, thanks! I think I'll try the unshare method
[03:14] <sarnold> Sven_vB: cool :) have fun, gn8
[03:17] <greyblue9> haha
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[06:15] <KrrishDhaneja[m]> Hi
[06:16] <Chunkyz> KrrishDhaneja[m]: see /topic
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[06:18] <Chunkyz> KrrishDhaneja[m]: that also ^
[06:18] <KrrishDhaneja[m]> I've seen that but matrix bridge for libera chat isn't completed yet
[06:19] <Chunkyz> don't use matrix :-)
[06:19] <KrrishDhaneja[m]> Ok, but what is wrong with matrix?
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[06:47] <shimbles> can you visualize where on the disk reads are occurring?
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[07:35] <dars> I was reading about hashcat and how it works. I found out that it comapres the hashes. I want to ask what else methods are available now besides comapring the hashes?
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[07:39] <TheBigK> is it wise to leave then?
[07:50] <kristian_> hi, I want to install ubuntu 20 (currently running ubuntu 18) on my dual boot machine and I want to make my partition bigger in the process. I have 3 options in the installer "erase 18.04 and reinstall", "erase disk and install" and "something else". Which one should I chose?
[07:50] <kristian_> I don't mind losing all my data on the ubuntu machine but would prefer to keep all my windows stuff
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[08:05] <RonaldsMazitis67> hey
[08:05] <RonaldsMazitis67> so libera?
[08:06] <RonaldsMazitis67> also somebody is using my nick in same time
[08:06] <RonaldsMazitis67> D:
[08:06] <RonaldsMazitis67> how do I log every copy/paste/delete on some user in ubuntu
[08:06] <RonaldsMazitis67> ?
[08:06] <kristian_> soo I went with option 2 and it deleted my windows partition.. damn...
[08:07] <RonaldsMazitis67> or in system in general
[08:07] <RonaldsMazitis67> kristian_     You must be 17 and I gave You disk in school :D
[08:07] <RonaldsMazitis67> it even asks twice
[08:08] <kristian_> RonaldsMazitis67, sorry what?
[08:08] <RonaldsMazitis67> well, two things happened in 2008
[08:08] <RonaldsMazitis67> I gave kids bunch of Ubuntu disks
[08:08] <RonaldsMazitis67> they trowed them around there school desks
[08:08] <RonaldsMazitis67> some tried the thing and blamed me for not reading
[08:09] <RonaldsMazitis67> and almost none of them got it right
[08:09] <kristian_> well I guess it wasn't that clear to me that the whole disk would be erased.. I was expecting to get an option to change size and adjust partitions
[08:09] <RonaldsMazitis67> ...
[08:10] <kristian_> Hey it's not that bad it just means I need to redownload a lot of stuff... I don't understand your references though
[08:10] <RonaldsMazitis67> what references
[08:10] <RonaldsMazitis67> I just made argument that this often happens to young age people
[08:10] <RonaldsMazitis67> for fun
[08:11] <kristian_> 2008, throwing around desks (?)
[08:11] <RonaldsMazitis67> yeah, that was when I was in high school
[08:11] <kristian_> I'm 30 not sure if you still consider that young
[08:11] <RonaldsMazitis67> and ubuntu had disks
[08:11] <RonaldsMazitis67> ok dude :D
[08:12] <RonaldsMazitis67> 12 years ago, last thing people wanted to hear about was linux
[08:13] <RonaldsMazitis67> now, they all trying to archive some task windows is pain to do
[08:15] <kristian_> I use ubuntu for development but I'm not a sysadmin and I don't understand the partition management on ubuntu (linux in general)
[08:15] <kristian_> should I use ext4 for my main partition?
[08:15] <RonaldsMazitis67> prolly
[08:15] <RonaldsMazitis67> idea is that ubuntu makes it real simple
[08:16] <RonaldsMazitis67> it's not arch or whatever thing that has no gui
[08:16] <kristian_> yes the problem is that what I'm trying to achieve was not simple at least not for me ;)
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[08:18] <RonaldsMazitis67> yeah but what is simple is using some gui tool in windows that you cannot modify to use at all
[08:19] <kristian_> I am not critizing ubuntu in anyway I just need help
[08:21] <RonaldsMazitis67> there is, ext4,swap and thats it
[08:21] <RonaldsMazitis67> there are other ways
[08:27] <kristian_> ok so now I have all my disk filled up with a fresh ubuntu install - I only want it to take half of the disk space. I click on "Something else" on the installer and get to the partition manager
[08:27] <kristian_> that's where I get lost
[08:30] <RonaldsMazitis67> https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-disk-partitioning-for-linux-and-windows-dual-booting/
[08:31] <RonaldsMazitis67> google a bit around
[08:31] <RonaldsMazitis67> I think, it gives You option to create next ext4 and swap and leave empty space unformatted
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[08:40] <RonaldsMazitis67> again
[08:40] <RonaldsMazitis67> where do I see what actions nautilus has done
[08:40] <RonaldsMazitis67> acct does not show them
[08:40] <RonaldsMazitis67> bash history don't ether
[08:40] <RonaldsMazitis67> I wanna see if somebody used nautilus to delete files
[08:52] <tatertots> if the system administrator didn't prevent files from being deleted, then there's probably no critical loss occurring if the files happened to be deleted
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[09:31] <oops> after setting openvpn server and client, no internet , the nat setting like this :" *nat
[09:31] <oops> :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0]
[09:31] <oops> -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/8 -o ens3 -j MASQUERADE
[09:31] <oops> COMMIT
[09:31] <oops> "
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[10:28] <x0n^> Drone: A++ drama, would watch again
[10:28]  * x0n^ OM NOM NOM
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[12:01] <BarnabasDK> Am trying to boot of a USB on a new Lenovo X1 - stick has been tested vith kvm on another Ubuntu machine - and it boots
[12:02] <BarnabasDK> however the new machine refuses to show the stick as a boot device even with secure boot turned off
[12:02] <BarnabasDK> what am I missing?
[12:03] <tatertots> BarnabasDK: if your USB was truly tested successful on a different computer, you could ensure your USB is EFI/Legacy dual mode capable...that way it boots on older system and EFI systems of the newer variety
[12:04] <tatertots> should/could
[12:05] <tatertots> BarnabasDK: the methodology and tool you're using to create it may not be able to do this...which would require you find some different tool(s) to create USB installation media with
[12:06] <BarnabasDK> have tried two images - the latest Ubuntu lts via startup disk creator (ubuntu tool) and secondly by downloading a Freebsd image and dd'ing it onto the stick
[12:06] <BarnabasDK> both bootable via kvm
[12:07] <BarnabasDK> unsure if the Ubuntu stick supports EFI boot when made? (The freebsd one definately do not out of the box I was doing a sanity test)
[12:09] <tatertots> BarnabasDK: for widest compatibility create Hybrid legacy/EFI capable USB installation media that ensures it will be bootable on newer AND older system....you'll probably need to spend some time perfecting that technique
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[13:10] <qwertuttyty> "fuse" uses a file with a size of zero. This is such a file as described here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_file ?
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[14:46] <slidercrank> how do I disable adding a default gateway when I connect to a wifi hotspot? I already have an Ethernet connection and I want to keep it.
[14:46] <Chunkyz-RPi> slidercrank: /topic
[14:47] <ronaldsmazitis> hey, I'm trying to log what copy/rename/delete actions nautilus does in 18.04 ubuntu
[14:47] <ronaldsmazitis> turns out it does not log
[14:47] <ronaldsmazitis> anything
[14:48] <Chunkyz-RPi> ronaldsmazitis: /topic
[14:48] <ronaldsmazitis> what?
[14:48] <Chunkyz-RPi> read the /topic
[14:49] <ronaldsmazitis> libera does not work
[14:49] <Chunkyz-RPi> yes, it does.
[14:49] <ronaldsmazitis> I am trying to connect
[14:49] <ronaldsmazitis> for 20 minutes
[14:49] <kline> ronaldsmazitis, what error are you getting?
[14:50] <ronaldsmazitis> something about (Connection reset by peer)
[14:50] <ronaldsmazitis> every time it try's different ip
[14:50] <ronaldsmazitis> none of them gives ping response
[14:50] <kline> ronaldsmazitis, please send me all the details you have
[14:51] <kline> im happy to work to fix this with you if youd like
[14:51] <ronaldsmazitis> that is all details
[14:51] <ronaldsmazitis> sweden hates me?
[14:51] <ronaldsmazitis> Idnk what else
[14:51] <ronaldsmazitis> ok, I tried kiwiirc, hexchat and quassel
[14:51] <ronaldsmazitis> what else
[14:52] <ronaldsmazitis> details, I'm using ubuntu 18.04
[14:53] <ronaldsmazitis> anyway
[14:53] <ronaldsmazitis> seems like we can talk about stuff here anyway
[14:53] <ronaldsmazitis> just that channels don't like freenode
[14:54] <kline> can you pm me a full log of your server buffer when you try to connect?
[14:54] <kline> or use a paste site?
[14:54] <ronaldsmazitis> why do You think I know where is server buffer
[14:56] <ronaldsmazitis> appearently if kiwiirc does not connect ether it can't be my fault
[14:56] <ronaldsmazitis> except if they really banned this ip
[14:57] <kline> connection reset by peer isnt a ban
[14:57] <ronaldsmazitis> idnk
[14:57] <ShahNaim> [22:57] <kline> connection reset by peer isnt a ban <--- correct.
[14:57] <ronaldsmazitis> anyway
[14:57] <ronaldsmazitis> while that does not work for me
[14:58] <ronaldsmazitis> I want some things to be done about logging what copy/rename/delete actions nautilus does in 18.04 ubuntu
[14:58] <leftyfb> ronaldsmazitis: please just work with kline to resolve the libera issues. It will get resolved.
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[14:58] <ronaldsmazitis> I have source code of the nautilus, it turns out the grep results about functions that does those actions are in python file
[14:58] <ronaldsmazitis> and
[14:59] <ronaldsmazitis> I am not sure how to compile
[14:59] <ronaldsmazitis> nautilus
[14:59] <ronaldsmazitis> nautilus-3.26.4
[14:59] <ronaldsmazitis> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/1:3.26.4-0~ubuntu18.04.4
[15:00] <ronaldsmazitis> this is my modification
[15:00] <ronaldsmazitis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d6MnRNMw8m/
[15:00] <ronaldsmazitis> it has some logging included
[15:01] <f_ayx> Hello, could use some help I am running Ubuntu 20.04 and plasma 5.18... I've got a media player widget stuck on my desktop which I am not able to close
[15:01] <ronaldsmazitis> also, file-torture.py is beautiful name for program that does file deleting
[15:01] <leftyfb> ronaldsmazitis: nautilus does not have a logging feature. If you'd like to develop one, that is on your own. For any further help with application development, feel free to join #python or #gnome on Libera.chat
[15:01] <ronaldsmazitis> I can't get on libera again
[15:01] <ronaldsmazitis> I just developed it
[15:01] <ronaldsmazitis> in 5 minutes
[15:01] <ronaldsmazitis> so look at it
[15:01] <leftyfb> ronaldsmazitis: kline was helping you with libera
[15:02] <ronaldsmazitis> yeah, I have no idea where is server buffer for this
[15:02] <ronaldsmazitis> or why kiwiirc does not work ether
[15:02] <leftyfb> ronaldsmazitis: your nautilus issue is not an ubuntu support issue. Feel free to join #python or #gnome on Libera.chat
[15:03] <ronaldsmazitis> ubuntu uses nautilus by default
[15:03] <ronaldsmazitis> also nobody's here anymore because of libera
[15:03] <ronaldsmazitis> but ok
[15:05] <ronaldsmazitis> anyway, not having an option that logs what nautilus is doing is reeealy bad
[15:06] <ronaldsmazitis> what if some people come use my pc and deletes the good stuff
[15:06] <ronaldsmazitis> manually
[15:06] <ronaldsmazitis> I just wanna know time
[15:06] <Chunkyz-RPi> ronaldsmazitis: you've been told, this isn't an ubuntu support question. :-)
[15:06] <ronaldsmazitis> yeah that is ubuntu thing
[15:07] <ronaldsmazitis> if file transfers aren't ubuntu thing then what is
[15:07] <ronaldsmazitis> what's the main ubuntu thing now? juju?
[15:07] <Chunkyz-RPi> ronaldsmazitis: #python or #gnome like leftyfb suggested on Libera.chat :-)
[15:08] <leftyfb> ronaldsmazitis: Your issue is wanting a feature implemented in a gnome-based project. Feel free to reach out to the Gnome project to get them to implement it
[15:08] <leftyfb> ronaldsmazitis: Ubuntu does not develop nautilus. It is included in the distro. Your issue is an upstream issue
[15:09] <ronaldsmazitis> yeah well gnome is dead on irc
[15:09] <ronaldsmazitis> at freenode
[15:09] <ronaldsmazitis> and they don't even advise libera
[15:09] <ronaldsmazitis> which btw does not work for me right now again
[15:10] <leftyfb> ronaldsmazitis: https://wiki.gnome.org/Newcomers/
[15:11] <ronaldsmazitis> o yeah
[15:11] <dash1tfvck> good people of ubuntu! do not forget to PN rasengan and let him know your honest opinion. he's a sucker for positive reinforcement. make it count
[15:12] <ronaldsmazitis> I feel like I'm not only doing something for myself but the whole ubuntu community
[15:12] <leftyfb> !ot | dash1tfvck
[15:12] <ronaldsmazitis> :D
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[15:30] <ronaldsmazitis> they sent me to #nautilus lmao
[15:31] <ronaldsmazitis> alone again :D
[15:31] <leftyfb> ronaldsmazitis: good luck
[15:32] <ronaldsmazitis> Ubuntu can now learn from my wishes to improve it's file manager to do something too
[15:33] <leftyfb> Ubuntu does not have a filemanager they develop
[15:35] <ronaldsmazitis> yeah, well, ubuntu might be important but I ain't
[15:35] <ronaldsmazitis> tip nautilus devs
[15:36] <leftyfb> ronaldsmazitis: there are no nautilus devs here
[15:37] <ronaldsmazitis> world is in peace and unity
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[15:40] <rfm> 'ignore Drone
[15:46] <ronaldsmazitis> lmao
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[16:48] <ronaldsmazitis> turns out nautilus is deeply involved in ubuntu functionality
[16:48] <ronaldsmazitis> and without gnome builder
[16:49] <ronaldsmazitis> building it can mess up the whole system
[16:49] <ronaldsmazitis> but installing virtual environment is a no no cause packages missing
[16:49] <ronaldsmazitis> thus nautilus is broken in my particular situation cause I can't track if somebody used it to delete files on my hdd
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[17:02] <ecormier> ronaldsmazitis: google fswatch
[17:03] <ronaldsmazitis> I used to use inotifywait
[17:03] <ronaldsmazitis> for something
[17:03] <ronaldsmazitis> does this one also creates hashes for every file?
[17:04] <ecormier> no idea, but instead of continuously asking for help you're never going to get, why not try to search for programs that do what you want
[17:06] <ronaldsmazitis> I tried but not much answers about it
[17:06] <ronaldsmazitis> but having an app that creates hash file in same directory as actual file
[17:06] <ronaldsmazitis> for whole filesystem is messed up
[17:07] <ronaldsmazitis> yeah that works for directories that are under personal user but root etc
[17:07] <ronaldsmazitis> I always thought linux logs this type of stuff by default
[17:14] <ecormier> just pipe inotifywait to a logfile
[17:16] <ronaldsmazitis> I told You it creates a mess behind itself
[17:18] <ronaldsmazitis> flatpack - Builder - modifying nautilus for this purpose
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[17:19] <apb1963> 20.04; Trying to reset password on ubuntu single sign on account.  The email to reset has a link.  That link has a trailing /> which lacks a space after the URL.  Consequently, that /> becomes part of the URL and clicking on the link ends up failing and so I can't reset my passwd.
[17:19] <apb1963> This is all so I can enable livepatch.
[17:19] <ronaldsmazitis> can't You copy and change the link
[17:19] <ronaldsmazitis> but sounds dumb
[17:20] <apb1963> ronaldsmazitis, First thing I tried.  Didn't work.
[17:20] <ronaldsmazitis> that link is for browser right
[17:21] <apb1963> I don't really understand the question.
[17:22] <apb1963> I am using firefox on a desktop.
[17:22] <ronaldsmazitis> I don't use that thing
[17:23] <ronaldsmazitis> single sign on
[17:23] <ronaldsmazitis> I have no idea where do You get that link, gmail?
[17:23] <apb1963> I have used it in the past... and I guess somehow my passwd got changed since the "remembered" passwd by firefox is there... albeit w/out the "magic eye" there's no way to view the passwd.
[17:24] <apb1963> No, not gmail.  My ISP's webmail.
[17:24] <heap_> hi. what should one do if i want to migrate from LTS x to LTSx+1 ? do i need to do a clean install? i was told that upgrade from x to x+1 is not recommended
[17:25] <ronaldsmazitis> I still don't get how You can't manually edit the reset link
[17:26] <apb1963> Again... that was the first thing I tried.  I'll try again, who knows maybe I made a mistake.
[17:27] <ronaldsmazitis> it's also weird cause usually reset functions take html chars outta way
[17:27] <ronaldsmazitis> in any system
[17:27] <ronaldsmazitis> You could not have this problem with it in first place
[17:29] <apb1963> OK, I don't know why but the copy adds additional chars at the end of the string that are not in the email.  I deleted those extra chars and I guess I'm good as it's prompting me for a new passwd.
[17:31] <apb1963> ronaldsmazitis, There's a /> in the URL.  As there is no space between the URL and the closing tag I presume it treats it as part of the URL.
[17:32] <apb1963> And that sir, is called a bug.
[17:32] <ronaldsmazitis> I told You it's nothing serious
[17:33] <ronaldsmazitis> You are free to report the bug on apport
[17:33] <apb1963> It was serious enough for me to seek help in resolving it.
[17:33] <apb1963> apport is not at fault afaik
[17:33] <ronaldsmazitis> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/apport-bug.1.html
[17:34] <ronaldsmazitis> yeah, well enjoy Your day
[17:34] <ronaldsmazitis> imagine how cool You get if You learn to report bugs about it
[17:34] <ronaldsmazitis> all the girls yours
[17:35] <ronaldsmazitis> from ubuntu developer team
[17:35] <ronaldsmazitis> :D
[17:37] <apb1963> Thanks, but apport-bug requires a PID or a package.  I have neither.
[17:38] <ronaldsmazitis> :ddd
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[17:40] <ronaldsmazitis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client
[17:47] <ronaldsmazitis> apb1963, that reminds my excuse first time I had to do that
[17:50] <heap_> hi, can i upgrade from  16.04.7 LTS to the latest?
[17:50] <heap_> i am not saying directly from 16 to 20
[17:51] <heap_> but release to release
[17:51] <heap_> reaching 20x at the ened
[17:53] <sarnold> heap_: yes, you should be able to run do-release-upgrade to get to 18.04, and then another do-release-upgrade will get you to 20.04
[17:54] <heap_> sarnold: but that command is missingthere
[17:54] <heap_> i mean do-release-upgrade is not there
[17:55] <ronaldsmazitis> it works, but if You have a lot of software, some might not not work, also configurations get messy
[17:55] <sarnold> heap_: try installing ubuntu-release-upgrader-core and then try again?
[17:57] <rulezzz> hi there my usb webcam cant work on my ubuntu system I try opened chesse but no luck I only see the integrated laptop webcam, if I run v4l2-ctl --list-devices it only list the laptop webcam what can I do
[17:58] <heap_> sarnold: thx let me check
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[17:58] <ronaldsmazitis> rulezzz find the webcams firm
[17:59] <ronaldsmazitis> these things are all standardized, should not be a problem in any modern ubuntu
[17:59] <ronaldsmazitis> out of box, more stuff works than in windows 7
[17:59] <ronaldsmazitis> beside closed paid software
[18:01] <rulezzz> ronaldsmazitis hplaptop kernel: [ 8772.802935] usb 3-9: new high-speed USB device number 58 using xhci_hcd  and   hplaptop kernel: [ 8772.984534] usb 3-9: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/all
[18:02] <ronaldsmazitis> is that an xinput list output
[18:02] <ronaldsmazitis> You sure have usb 3.0
[18:02] <ronaldsmazitis> ?
[18:03] <rulezzz> its a syslog tail file
[18:03] <ronaldsmazitis> personally I have 3 usb ports and only one takes devices like that
[18:03] <ronaldsmazitis> I am lazy enough to never mind why
[18:03] <heap_> root@odroid:~#  do-release-upgrade
[18:04] <heap_> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[18:04] <heap_> Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.
[18:10] <rulezzz> can I use pastebin_
[18:11] <sarnold> rulezzz: something like paste.ubuntu.com is better, but yeah, a pastebin site is helpful
[18:12] <rulezzz> https://pastebin.com/Mup4hCzd I change the webcam to another
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[18:18] <isapgswell> hi
[18:19] <isapgswell> why ubuntu has X mouse acceleration via xset and Xorg acceleration too ?
[18:19] <isapgswell> and how the definitive way to disable mouse acceleration
[18:26] <Flexman> hi
[18:37] <metabsd> Hi, I want to know if there a way to setup a CUPS Print Queue that can process concurrently document instead of 1 a time ? Thx!
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[19:05] <isapgswell> is there a way to disable gdm/xorg mouse/touchpad ?
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[20:59] <greyblue9> isapgswell: seems like there should be
[20:59] <greyblue9> you just want kbd-only?
[21:01] <greyblue9> Flexman: hi
[21:01] <greyblue9> how are you
[21:10] <Flexman> greyblue9: thanks fine, and you?
[21:16] <rulezzz> still cant  make my webcam work: plaptop /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1005]: (II) event6  - HP HD Webcam [Fixed]: HP HD Web: is tagged by udev as: Keyboard
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[21:18] <rulezzz> chesse now know the device but it show a black window when chose the device: hplaptop gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 31 with keysym 31 (keycode a).
[21:37] <cispra> is there a non-trivial way to have ubuntu terminal tabs (stock gnome) display the name of the program running the tab rather than the file path?
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[21:38] <cispra> I sometimes run things in their corresponding folder (like $ cd ~/.irssi ; $ irssi) to achieve something of that kind
[21:41] <sarnold> cispra: if you want a fancy bash prompt, installing something like liquidprompt should be able to do that; if you want something simpler, you can construct it from pieces in https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/xterm-title-bar-manipulations.html
[21:46] <leftyfb> cispra: https://askubuntu.com/questions/22413/how-to-change-gnome-terminal-title#comment995040_22413
[21:48] <cispra> sarnold: leftyfb: thanks to both of you
[21:48] <cispra> leftyfb: guess I will hack something together, maybe just aliases for the programs I need this feature for
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[22:03] <Learner2> hello
[22:04] <Learner2> please can someone help me repairing my grub?
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[22:04] <Learner2> I'm on ubuntu 20.10, and then linux entries in my grub all disappeared , such that now only memtest ist ther
[22:07] <Learner2> so i cannot boot
[22:07] <cispra> Learner2: what did you do to achieve this?
[22:08] <Learner2> nothing
[22:08] <Learner2> I let it run while I was away. it had booted fine
[22:09] <Learner2> had some dowlonads in transmission running
[22:09] <cispra> no trying to pass blame, it would help to debug ; so no dist-upgrade, you did nothing to grub.cfg or try something out, you just rebooted and the entries were gone?
[22:09] <Learner2> when I came back, terminal said there  are two updates avaialbel.
[22:09] <cispra> *not trying
[22:09] <Learner2> I did no manual nothing with grub.cfg this time
[22:09] <cispra> this time? :P
[22:09] <Learner2> it had happened once befrore, after I ran apt- update
[22:10] <Learner2> I managed to fix it with the helps of someone by booting from live cd and chrroting
[22:10] <Learner2> and simply running grub-mkconfig
[22:10] <Learner2> after that, it booted well, several times
[22:10] <cispra> seems like it would be an option once more?
[22:10] <Learner2> that was last Thursday
[22:11] <Learner2> and I did nonthing with grub.cfg myself, except running the grub.mkconfig
[22:11] <Learner2> this time, I did not even run apt update to trigger it. i was just notified that updates ware there, when I logged into ctrl+alt+f
[22:12] <Learner2> f3
[22:12] <Learner2> so I tried the exact same as last time
[22:12] <Learner2> live usb - that's wher eI am now
[22:12] <Learner2> chrooting
[22:12] <Learner2> and grub-mkconfig
[22:12] <Learner2> yet it doesnt find the linux kernels
[22:12] <Learner2> but they are there
[22:13] <Learner2> sorry for slow typing, cispera
[22:15] <cispra> Learner2: grub-mkconfig creates a /boot/grub/grub.cfg, have you looked at that?
[22:16] <Learner2> yes
[22:16] <Learner2> grub-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/grub/grub.cfg
[22:16] <Learner2> and I looked at /boot/efi/grub/grub.cfg
[22:16] <Learner2> and it only contains memtest
[22:17] <Learner2> can I send you a pastebin link?
[22:17] <jayjo-> I have a USB speaker that for some reason presents itself as an HID device. My wireless usb mouse stops working when the audio usb speaker is plugged in. Any ideas on a workaround?
[22:18] <cispra> Learner2: feel free to paste in here so others can see as well
[22:18] <cispra> (paste the link that is)
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[22:19] <Learner2> cispra: there were some errors on the way which may or may not be related, so I'd like to show the exact seeuqence of commands I ran right after booting the live system , plus the errors, so I am not omitting any crucial details
[22:19] <Learner2> ok, gimme a sec
[22:20] <Learner2> https://pastebin.com/RCnh9nir
[22:24] <Learner2> qpool is not important, it is an exported pool, not the system I run, that it rpool and bpool. rpool is on /dev/sda5
[22:27] <tstagg> any lenovo yoga c740 users here? i'm having an issue getting bluetooth to turn on ubuntu 21.04
[22:32] <cispra> Learner2: I can only guess and am wary recommending something while being unsure myself
[22:33] <Learner2> and what's your guess?
[22:33] <cispra> Learner2: $ grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi
[22:33] <cispra> Learner2: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64
[22:33] <cispra> both of those could help maybe
[22:35] <cispra> but maybe someone else can help, Learner2 can't create grub.conf on encrypted zfs install he chrooted in, relevant details here https://pastebin.com/RCnh9nir
[22:36] <Learner2> so should I try these two while I wait if someone else has another idea? or should I rather still wait?
[22:37] <Learner2> I can keep irc connected and also check back after some hours. it's not like i need to get it to run right now. but would be nice if i eventually managed to get back a bootable system
[22:37] <cispra> Learner2: you also try askubuntu
[22:37] <cispra> Learner2: sorry I couldn't help
[22:38] <Learner2> no need to be sorry, you already gave me two hints, thank you
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[22:39] <cispra> Learner2: why didn't you $ sudo mount --bind /boot /mnt/boot
[22:39] <cispra> ?
[22:39] <Learner2> besides sda2 where efi and grub are on, I also have a tiny sda1 partition wtih a grub image, in case that is relavant. all set up by the ubuntu installer
[22:40] <Learner2> cispra, becasue i didn't know i have to mount that that way too
[22:40] <Learner2> they told me that in order to chroot i only need to mount --bind dev sys and proc
[22:41] <Learner2> and only those i did on Thursday when I first encountered the problem
[22:41] <Learner2> and i could run grub-mkconfig and it fixed it
[22:42] <Learner2> but when it didn't fix it this time, I reboooted the live system once more to be sure everythning is unmounted and empty, and did it all over again, and added /dev/pts and /run and /etc/resolv.conf as shown in one ubuntu tutorial about chrooting
[22:44] <Learner2> i _did_ run the grub-mkconfig in the chroot, so it has written it to the correct place on sda2 , yet it doesn't see the linux kernels
[22:44] <Learner2> but ls /boot shows vmlinuz-5.8.0-53-generic
[22:45] <Learner2> and i THINK that's what needs to be there and grub-mkconfig should see it and pick it up
[22:45] <cispra> Learner2: it also says it finds the memtest86+ images in /BOOT/ubuntu_avvz9b@/
[22:45] <cispra> which seems weird
[22:45] <Learner2> that's some zfs magic
[22:46] <Learner2> I don't even know where exactly that is. I think it is the same as /boot
[22:46] <Learner2> ls /BOOT  says no such file or firectory
[22:47] <cispra> ls /boot
[22:47] <cispra> and it would have to be mounted I assume
[22:48] <Learner2> is it not?
[22:48] <Learner2> maybe I should have run another zfs mount -a after importing the bpool?
[22:50] <Learner2> but if it were/is not mounted, then how can I see files /boot?
[22:50] <Learner2> root@ubuntu:/# ls /boot | wc -l
[22:50] <Learner2> 19
[22:52] <Learner2> and why does it find anything then? shouldnt it either find them all, or none at all?
[22:53] <Learner2> anyway, I'll stay connected for a bit more to see if somene chimes in, then I'll reboot (and hence disconect from here) and try to do it all step by step from the very beginning again, and see if the one missing 'zfs mount -a' was the culprit.
[22:53] <Learner2> thank you
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