[05:08] <m4v> O_O
[05:20] <m4v> well I guess this saved me the trouble of closing the channel.
[05:21] <RikMills> yeah, I was wondering how to close the kubuntu ones ;)
[05:22] <kryten> lol
[05:23] <RikMills> now you just need to put the new place in the top, and wait ;)
[05:23] <kryten> Yes!
[05:23] <RikMills> s/top/topic
[11:06] <Unit193> alan_g: Uhh.  ROAF, I recognize him.  Is he a project lead and who should be regging the channel?
[11:07] <knome> o hai Mirv!
[11:07]  * Mirv super hugs knome!
[11:07]  * knome hugs
[11:07] <Myrtti> Mirv: was just asking about what to do with #ubuntu-fi-rekisteroidy that I've got +F in freenode
[11:07] <Unit193> LP says he's an admin of the mir team.
[11:07] <knome> free hugs for all!
[11:09] <Unit193> Mirv: Done!
[11:09] <Myrtti> it's been unused for ages so I'm tempted just to drop it rather than doing any frippery or recreating it in here, myself but of course want to ask both the general opinion, IRC team opinion and obvs yours, Mirv
[11:09] <alan_g> @Unit193, RAOF is a team member and I'm the team lead. (Apparently he was up first. )
[11:09] <Mirv> Myrtti: seems like other #ubuntu-fi (and #vapaakoodi) were assimilated due to libera.chat references, so I don't know if there's anything that's sensible to do over at Freenode anymore...
[11:10] <Unit193> alan_g: Sorry, went off of https://launchpad.net/~mir-team/+members
[11:10] <knome> imo just drop it.
[11:10] <Mirv> Unit193: thank you!
[11:10] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[11:11] <Mirv> Myrtti: ack with knome, we can't save anything in that sinking ship. I've updated https://www.ubuntu-fi.org/yhteiso/postituslistat-ja-irc/ for what it's worth.
[11:11] <Myrtti> aye aye captain
[11:11] <Mirv> and yes probably not needed at Libera anymore
[11:12] <Myrtti> done and dropped
[11:12] <Myrtti> and that was the last of the channels I had a +F on
[11:12] <knome> (:
[11:13] <Myrtti> there's quite a few #ubuntu-* channels still but since I have no +F there's nothing I can or should do about them.
[11:13] <alan_g> Can I have cloak? https://launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths
[11:14] <Myrtti> Mirv: incidentally I also dropped #kesakoodi, #openmind and after consulting with mset and elias_a, also #coss
[11:14] <Unit193> Do you know what yours on freenode looked like?  I'm inclined to do ubuntu/member/alan-g
[11:14] <Myrtti> RIP *sad trombone*
[11:15] <Unit193> alan_g: Ah, you don't appear to be a member.
[11:16] <alan_g> nm
[11:16] <Unit193> (I can't do Canonical ones)
[11:17] <alan_g> Got it
[11:31] <Mirv> Myrtti: my "Freenode cleanup" is only now pondering what to do with the account. given recent events, now that I changed my ircname to "moved to https://libera.chat/" that might mean my accound will be auto-deleted :D
[11:31] <Mirv> s/d/t/
[11:31] <Myrtti> :-D
[11:31] <Myrtti> I'm surprised nobody has yanked my staff emeritus cloak yet
[11:31] <knome> Mirv, i just deleted my account. who needs stuff that's not going to be used?
[11:31] <Unit193> Mirv: More likely klined and account frozen.
[11:32] <Myrtti> Unit193: has that been happening then? frozen wouldn't be too bad
[11:33] <Mirv> knome: that's a valid approach too, I guess I was going to keep it so that no-one can use register my nick there, but there's not many who to fake me there soon. OTOH they have my account data anyway whether I want it or not (and I'd guess GDPRing them wouldn't do me any good), so there's nothing gained either.
[11:33] <Unit193> Myrtti: kline (staff) and Fuchs were hit yesterday.
[11:34] <Unit193> The latter 2 hours after going to sleep, sooo...
[11:35] <knome> Mirv, i mean ultimately, if *ubuntu* moves to libera, and you have a valid account and sane presence here, who'd believe the scammer on freenode?
[11:36] <Mirv> knome: I'm in other communities too, but yes currently I think all of them have moved already or in progress. so yes, if one scams in an empty network, no-one hears :)
[11:39] <knome> that.
[11:42] <Mirv> nice, sasl authentication now works
[12:21] <paride> Hi! Can I please ask an ubuntu/member cloak? I'm `paride` on LP, and used to have a cloak on Freenode already
[12:22] <paride> s/ask/have/ :)
[12:37] <rafaeldtinoco> I would like to have my ubuntu coredev/member cloak back if possible, please ? =)
[12:38] <guiverc> Congrats hggdh_ sarnold Unit193 & Thank you rww Tm_T el
[12:38]  * guiverc is afraid I missed one (or used wrong tags; apologies)
[12:42] <Tm_T> uh, I'm bit lost, what are nowadays the channels I should be joining?
[12:43] <Unit193> Tm_T: Are you directly in any ops teams on LP? :3
[12:44] <Tm_T> I used to be, let me check what is now... I might have left them expire
[12:45] <Unit193> paride: Done.
[12:45] <paride> Unit193, thanks!
[12:45] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[12:46] <Tm_T> @Unit193 I don't think so, if I read LP right
[12:46] <Tm_T> ...why I did put @ there
[12:46] <Unit193> Discord user?  Slack?
[12:47] <Unit193> rafaeldtinoco: Can you add your account name on libera to your LP IRC section?
[12:47] <rafaeldtinoco> Unit193: sure
[12:48] <rafaeldtinoco> Unit193: done
[12:48] <Tm_T> Unit193: should we consider me just a normal user from now on? I'm sure if I need any special rights I can earn them like anyone else
[12:48] <Unit193> Tm_T: #kubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic?
[12:49] <Tm_T> haven't been any way active for year or three, don't know if I can help there and thus would cause false state on how many ops are there I'm afraid
[12:49] <Unit193> rafaeldtinoco: Done!
[12:49] <rafaeldtinoco> Unit193: thanks a lot
[12:51] <Tm_T> yeah, best to drop my special rights for now
[12:51] <Unit193> Well, nothing really to drop I think.  Just off the IRCC LP team. :3
[12:53] <Tm_T> Unit193: can I has cloak?
[12:53] <caribou> Hello, apparently I need to ask here to have the cloak setup for my account ? Here is my LP: profile : https://launchpad.net/~louis
[12:54] <coreycb> hello, please can I get a cloak as well? https://launchpad.net/~corey.bryant
[12:55] <Unit193> Tm_T: What was yours before?  You have an underscore.
[12:56] <Tm_T> bah, it was ubuntu/member/kde.developer.jkekkonen, can I has just ubuntu member one with tmt like LP acc
[12:56] <Unit193> Tm_T: KDE is regged here, if that matters?
[12:57] <Unit193> coreycb, caribou: Done.
[12:57] <caribou> thanks Unit193
[12:57] <coreycb> Unit193: thanks!
[12:57] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[12:58] <Tm_T> I don't feel I earn it anymore
[12:59] <Unit193> Done, Tm_T.
[12:59] <Tm_T> <3
[13:03] <stgraber> hey there, I'm moving queuebot over but the nick has already been registered, was that done by one of us?
[13:03] <stgraber> I've currently registered it as ubuntuqueue to get things back online but getting the old name would probably make for a slightly smoother transition
[13:03] <Unit193> stgraber: Most likely.
[13:04] <ddstreet> can i get an ubuntu cloak setup? lp id is ddstreet
[13:04] <Unit193> stgraber: Free to use now.
[13:04] <stgraber> Unit193: thanks!
[13:05] <leftyfb> stgraber: are you taking care of #lxcontainers as well?
[13:05] <stgraber> leftyfb: it's #lxc now
[13:05] <stgraber> Unit193: registered now, can you cloak it (ubuntu/bot/queuebot)?
[13:05] <Unit193> ddstreet: Done
[13:06] <ddstreet> thanks!
[13:06] <leftyfb> stgraber: oh, why is that? 
[13:06] <Unit193> Done, stgraber.
[13:06] <stgraber> Unit193: thanks
[13:06] <Unit193> Sure thing!
[13:06] <stgraber> and we're back in business :)
[13:06] <knome> oi stgraber :)
[13:07] <stgraber> hey knome!
[13:09] <stgraber> Unit193: don't suppose you can use your super powers to make me an op in #lxcontainers (unregistered) so I can register it and have it forward to #lxc ? :)
[13:09] <stgraber> as it's not in #lxc-* it's outside of our registered project group
[13:14]  * Mirv hugs Tm_T 
[13:14] <Unit193> (Looked into)
[13:16] <Mirv> Unit193: btw just a mention to check if #snappy needs something - I registered it by myself and then gave later founder rights to mvo, og_ra and zyga, but maybe it should be included in some more global administration thingies as well
[13:17] <Unit193> Uhh..Is that a Canonical thing or Ubuntu community thing, Mirv?
[13:19] <Unit193> stgraber: Actually, maybe mlock that +isf?  If services split and the channel becomes empty, they'll be lost.
[13:19] <Unit193> +restart
[13:19] <stgraber> Unit193: I did the mode changes through chanserv mlock
[13:19] <Unit193> /cs info #lxcontainers
[13:20] <stgraber> oops :)
[13:20] <stgraber> will do it properly now ;)
[13:20] <Mirv> Unit193: I'm not sure, it's a Snap community thing :) Can you ogra define #snappy, should be just separate upstream project as is or managed somehow ^ ? Maybe it's comparable to lxc
[13:21] <stgraber> Unit193: there, that's what I get for having done them in sequence instead of all at once, they get applied properly but only last value is saved in lock ;)
[13:21] <Unit193> LXC has its own namespace, eg Canonical also owns #launchpad* soo...  Anywho, maybe ubuntu/member/* cloaks make sense?
[13:21] <Unit193> stgraber: Haha, OK!
[13:21] <Unit193> Mirv: All else fails, you can just chanacs the -ops list I guess! :P
[13:22] <Mirv> ack
[13:22] <Unit193> Mirv: Look at the fn ACL?
[13:22] <knome> Tm_T!
[13:22] <Unit193> ...Nevermind, it's been hijecked.
[13:23] <knome> Tm_T is hijacked?
[13:23] <knome> oh noes
[13:23] <Unit193> By you!
[13:23]  * knome lurks
[13:23] <Mirv> Unit193: yeah, looks hijacked already, access lists cleared
[13:24] <Mirv> luckily for other channels I registered I grabbed access lists which seems to have been better wisdom than I anticipated
[13:25] <Unit193> ...I feel like fighting parents "Who gets to own #snappy?"
[13:26] <ikonia> does anyone want it is the real question :) 
[13:26] <ogra> Unit193, Mirv, well, was #snappy located in the ubuntu namespace before in freenode `
[13:26] <ogra> ?
[13:26] <Tm_T> knome: accidents happen
[13:26] <Unit193> ikonia: Haha, ouch!
[13:27] <Unit193> Not likely, ogra.  I suspect outside of any namespace.
[13:28] <ogra> Unit193, we'd surely like to have logging at least ... 
[13:28] <Unit193> IMO, it's part of snapcraft right?  That's kind of its own project at this point (snapcraft.io?) and maybe should be its own?  I don't know, spitballing here.
[13:28] <Unit193> ogra: Oh, that's rt@canonical.
[13:28] <Unit193> !rt
[13:28] <ubot3> The RT kernel is the Linux kernel with special realtime patches applied. It is not available in Ubuntu. See also !lowlatency and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[13:28] <Unit193> No, badbot.
[13:28] <ogra> haha
[13:29] <ogra> well, i see ubuntulog bots (two of them) 
[13:29] <ogra> are they yours or canonicals
[13:29] <Unit193> Canonical.
[13:29] <ogra> k
[13:29] <ogra> well, i guess everything is fine if it is like it was before on freenode 
[13:30] <Unit193> But we can make it better. :3
[13:31] <ogra> make it then 🙂
[13:31] <ogra> we'll just follow suit 
[13:43] <RikMills> can I get a ubuntu cloak back please :)
[13:46] <Unit193> ...What was your LP again?
[13:46] <RikMills> Unit193: rikmills
[13:47] <Unit193> No c.
[13:47] <RikMills> nope
[13:47] <Unit193> Off by one!
[13:47] <Unit193> Done.
[13:47] <RikMills> Thanks :D
[13:48] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[14:42] <tjaalton> hi, #ubuntu-x needs a topic, how can I get it set up?
[14:48] <dannf> hey - may I have an ubuntu cloak? http://launchpad.net/~dannf
[15:13] <jelly> hi, can we have Drone in #ubuntu-hr maybe?  Does it manage channel logs here too?
[15:14] <Eickmeyer> Unit193: ^
[15:30] <dkessel> Hello. I would like to get my Ubuntu Member cloak. My launchpad page is: https://launchpad.net/~dkessel
[15:37] <forbiddenvoid> 1
[15:37] <om26er> Hey! I need my IRC cloak here, can anyone help ? 
[15:39] <paride> Hi! I'd like to register #cloud-init, which is not under the #ubuntu-* namespace, but still an Ubuntu related project. Currently the channel has >20 users and it's not feasible to make all of them part in order to gain +o. Is there a way around to register it?
[15:45] <bdmurray> I'd like to make #ubuntu-installer redirect to #ubuntu-devel (something which was planned awhile ago) but I wasn't able to set the mode on #ubuntu-installer. Can somebody help me out?
[15:48] <kryten> dannf: While I can't apply the cloak for you, I can tell you that you need to add your Libera nick to your LP profile still for this.
[15:51] <kryten> om26er: Same for you and please also link to your LP profile.
[15:52] <kryten> jelly: No, Drone doesn't do channel logs.
[15:53] <rbasak> May I have an Ubuntu member cloak please? https://launchpad.net/~racb and I've updated my profile there.
[15:55] <kryten> jelly: ubuntulog and its siblings are, and would need to be requested via the Canonical infra folks.
[16:03] <dannf> kryten: thx - i thought I had, do i need to use a different syntax?
[16:03] <bdmurray> I also would like an Ubuntu member clock. https://launchpad.net/~brian-murray
[16:06] <kryten> dannf: Well, it says "dannf on libre.chat" currently.. :P  Just spelling out the entire domain seems pretty common, so "irc.libera.chat"; or even just "Libera" but also "Libera Chat" would suffice.
[16:07] <dannf> kryten: righto!
[16:07] <dannf> kryten: fix, ta!
[16:07] <kryten> Or "libera.chat" too as bdmurray got it.
[16:08] <kryten> dannf: Yw!
[16:11] <RikMills> #kubuntu-council does not appear to be registered. can that be sorted?
[16:12] <jelly> kryten, thanks for the info, we still need a chantracker however
[16:13] <kryten> jelly: Yeah, was only responding to the second part. :)
[16:15] <commandoline> Hi. I'd also like to request a member cloak, please. ( https://launchpad.net/~marten-de-vries confirms my irc.libera.chat nick)
[16:19] <kryten> om26er: Oh, also you need to register your nick on here in the first place.
[16:26] <TIMiDo> You will have to be patience commandoline and speak to Unit193 
[16:27] <TIMiDo> He will do the trick but I'm not sure if Unit193 is online or not...
[16:42] <commandoline> TIMiDo: Yeah, of course, I just thought I'd add my request to the list. I imagine it's been pretty busy lately. :)
[16:43] <TIMiDo> Yeah ;(
[16:45] <TIMiDo> For your security, we've temporarily locked your user ID. To unlock it, either
[16:45] <TIMiDo> Some moron try to hack me
[17:19] <tumbleweed> Can I get re-cloaked?
[17:22] <jose> TIMiDo: Please note that we have an IRC Council and that they are actively monitoring the channel. Let's avoid pointing to a single person wherever possible - things will get tended to as our IRCC becomes available.
[17:22] <TIMiDo> ..
[17:26] <Ubuntu-fr-IRC> hi !
[17:35] <TIMiDo> Hello Ubuntu-fr-IRC 
[18:49] <Ubuntu-fr-IRC> can i get a cloak please ? ( https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fr-irc )  this account is present in #ubuntu-irc on freenode
[21:04] <santa_> hi there
[21:05] <santa_> is this the correct place to ask for a cloak?ç
[21:05] <santa_> this is my LP page: https://launchpad.net/~panfaust
[21:06] <santa_> I'm usually working on Kubuntu
[21:07] <Eickmeyer> Hey santa_! I'm sure the IRCC is monitoring this chatroom, and it'll get taken care of. :)
[21:08] <santa_> nice, thanks :)
[21:15] <sarnold> santa_: you're not currently identified with services; can you identify with nickserv? thanks
[21:33] <el> McPeter: you need to ask things over here for changes to be done on this network. the old network we lost many channels and access lists.
[21:34] <McPeter> yes yes … i ask on old server just to preserve the link with Ubuntu-fr-IRC account
[21:34] <McPeter> on the old server this user have cloak 
[21:34] <el> to confirm identity?
[21:34] <McPeter> yes :)
[21:35] <McPeter> because Ubuntu-fr-IRC is not "user" .. it's group irc FR under locoteam FR
[21:35] <el> niko: are you familiar with the ubuntu-fr-irc setup from old net?
[21:35] <McPeter> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fr-irc/+members
[21:35] <niko> el: yes
[21:36] <el> i am confused why it has a member cloak over ther eand not a bot cloak which aiui is what it is supposed to be?
[21:36] <McPeter> ah niko ! :)
[21:36] <santa_> el: I've just did something similar 
[21:36] <santa_> is it ok now?
[21:36] <niko> el: it's an account holder
[21:36] <niko> in old net we even requested hold on it
[21:37] <el> niko: and he's asking for the "member" cloak to be restored here, but this is out of the normal way of bots having bots cloaks
[21:37] <el> is there a reason it's a regular member cloak and not a bot one?
[21:38] <niko> el: this is not a bot account, but the admin account who hold +f in #ubuntu-fr-*
[21:38] <niko> they want to hide "the real ip" behind a community cloak
[21:40] <el> my point is it's also not a "member" which is confusing and we likely need to figure out a better solution now
[21:41] <el> i'm deferring it to the sitting ircc which i'm not one of anymore
[21:41] <niko> ok, fine for me :)
[21:41] <McPeter> this account used only to register channel
[21:42] <McPeter> ok me too
[21:43] <el> santa_: you're still not identified. can you try to manually identify please? /msg nickserv identify santa_ yourpasswordhere
[21:44] <santa_> nvm
[21:44] <santa_> I think I have done something wrong, give me a few secs...
[22:13] <santa_> el: now the thing says I'm loged in
[22:13] <McPeter> ᴖ_ᴖ
[22:13] <el> hi santa, you are now logged in correctly yes :)
[22:14] <santa_> finally!
[22:14] <el> sarnold: are you sufficiently convinced to re-ask for the member cloak?
[22:14] <santa_> I configured this thing billions and billions of years ago and I forgot everything
[22:14] <el> santa_: it happens :)
[22:15] <el> when sarnold re-requests i'll do the cloaking
[22:15] <sarnold> el: yay, yes, please :) thanks
[22:15] <sarnold> thanks santa_
[22:16] <el> am i stripping the _ since they can't be in cloaks and hoping $a:santa doesn't want one also?
[22:17] <santa_> let's hope so
[22:17] <el> santa- isn't registered currently and could be groupped here and i could substitute the - for the _
[22:17] <santa_> someone registered "santa" in freenode
[22:17] <santa_> and someone registered in liberachat as well
[22:17] <santa_> some things never change XD
[22:18] <el> keep an eye on if it expires
[22:18] <santa_> el: ok, whaetever fits you better :)
[22:19] <santa_> * whatever
[22:19] <el> ok i've given your cloak as santa
[22:19] <el> but remember to keep an eye out for the nick expiring :)
[22:20] <santa_> how can I do that, just checking from time to time if no one else has it?
[22:21] <TIMiDo> Oh that's the headache I'm facing with my nick Aaron
[22:21] <el> it's sad yeah we couldn't bring the data :(
[22:22] <santa_> ack, thank you very much
[22:22] <TIMiDo> I don't care about the data What I care about someone else took the nick here ;(
[22:23] <el> McPeter: if you want to get a basic cloak for ubuntu-fr-irc until ircc decides what to do about cloaks, you can have it join #libera-cloak and it'll get a generic user cloak for now
[22:24] <McPeter> +1
[22:26] <el> the situation fell through cracks on freenode over the years i guess. but i believe they would need to pass a council resolution for either a utility cloak of some kind or a member cloaks.
[22:26] <el> the cloak probably preceeds the IRCC!
[22:27] <McPeter> ah cool :)
[22:28] <McPeter> better :p
[23:21] <Unit193> commandoline, dannf, rbasak, bdmurray: Cloaks set!
[23:21] <Trevinho> Hi, can I please get an ubuntu cloak?
[23:21] <Trevinho> my lp page is ~3v1n0
[23:22] <Unit193> Done, Trevinho.
[23:22] <Trevinho> Unit193: thanks
[23:24] <Unit193> dkessel: Set for you as well.
[23:24] <Unit193> bdmurray: I don't suppose you're still around?
[23:25] <Unit193> tjaalton, paride, RikMills: You here either?
[23:25] <TIMiDo> lol