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[01:18] <isapgswell> related to ubuntu software, when i open it i need to click background pane to swipe faster, no lag
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[02:00] <loganlee> hello could some one tell me who owns /var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/ ? thanks
[02:00] <loganlee> i changed the owner to _apt
[02:00] <loganlee> i want to switch back
[02:01] <loganlee> just switched back to root
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[02:25] <loganlee> wow legal stuff
[02:26] <bagira> huh?
[02:26] <bagira> what legal stuff
[02:27] <loganlee> the link
[02:29] <bagira> Oh that
[02:29] <bagira> yeah i thought it was kinda confused tbh
[02:29] <bagira> ubuntu irc council representatives don't decide where i go to talk to other ubuntu users
[02:29] <bagira> they can set up shop in as many places as they want
[02:30] <bagira> They keep saying they "moved".
[02:30] <bagira> They say they moved the channel I mean
[02:30] <bagira> but here we are
[02:30] <bagira> in it
[02:30] <bagira> communicating
[02:30] <bagira> about ubuntu
[02:31] <bagira> Are they confused and splitting communities apart or are we?
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[02:59] <leftyfb> bagira: at some point, this channel will be shut down, probably set to moderated or something. So yes, as far as the official IRC support channel, that has been moved.
[03:00] <eskimo> at some point
[03:02] <freenodecom> This channel has been reopened with respect to the communities and new users. The topic is in violation of freenode policy: https://freenode.net/policies
[03:02] <freenodecom> The new channel is ##ubuntu
[11:23] <learner> hello
[11:23] <learner> could somebody please help me fix my grub.cfg file?
[11:23] <learner> somehow all of its entries except memtest got deleted
[11:24] <eight> Don't ask to ask, just ask
[11:24] <learner> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/KyjmhTGYZf/
[11:24] <witheringwanton> learner, here's a link talking about grub configuration: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup
[11:25] <learner> I'm on ubuntu live usb now and this is what I tried (pastebin)
[11:25] <witheringwanton> What I recommend is you boot into linux(if you can't boot into the os on your drive then make a bootable thumb drive) then run the command "update-grub" on that drive
[11:25] <learner> in short, grub-mkconfig cannot find the linux kernels
[11:25] <witheringwanton> If that's way over your head, let me know
[11:26] <learner> witheringwanton, from chroot or directly from the live system?
[11:27] <eight> In line 43-46
[11:27] <eight> It looks like there is a problem with mounting things
[11:27] <witheringwanton> chroot, here's a site that can explain it better than me: https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-how-to-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd/
[11:27] <eight> And os-prober can't detect anything
[11:28] <learner> what I also do not understand is why it says that, eight. I even rebooted and tried again and check prior to issuing the zfs mount -a whether /mnt/var/ exists, and it didn't exist, so how can it not be empty?
[11:29] <learner> eight: yes, it cannot detect it. is that becasue of the mounting issue? and what can I do about it? I literally copied EVERY command I ran after a clean live system boot, and put it into that paste.
[11:30] <learner> thanks for the links, witheringwanton
[11:30] <mgedmin> "filesystem 'qpool/ROOT/ubuntu_avvz9b' can not be mounted: Keine Berechtigung" seems important
[11:30] <mgedmin> what does "Keine Berectigung" mean?
[11:31] <wyre> matsaman, mgedmin I've installed the mentioned dependencies and the thin has improved, but now I'm having a different problem https://bpa.st/ZOCA
[11:31] <witheringwanton> no authorization. Not allowed
[11:31] <witheringwanton> mgedmin,
[11:31] <wyre> maybe I'm lacking dbus? 🤔
[11:32] <mgedmin> yeah, I've never used zfs, can't say why root isn't allowed to mount filesystems
[11:32] <witheringwanton> zfs is a pain in the ass
[11:33] <mgedmin> suggestion: instead of booting livecd, use livecd's grub shell to boot your main os, then run sudo update-grub from it
[11:33] <mgedmin> eliminates chroot pain
[11:33] <witheringwanton> Never use docker with a zfs-on-root setup, it kills everything
[11:33] <learner> mgedmin qpool is another pool which resides on an external disk which is not needed for the system to run. it is only seen since the external disk is connected. and it is connected for it has a fat partition where I saved a text file with all the commands I have to run
[11:33] <matsaman> wyre: worth a shot
[11:33] <learner> Keine Berechichtigung means no permission
[11:34] <mgedmin> all you need to do is (grub) configfile (hd0,gpt1)/boot/grub.cfg, for the right (hdX,partitiontypeY)/path/to/your/grub.cfg values
[11:34] <mgedmin> tab-completion helps figure those out without guessing
[11:34] <ValeraRozuvan> witheringwanton: Why? (you said "Never use docker with a zfs-on-root setup, it kills everything")
[11:34] <eight> Not a zfs myself so I can only guess. Can you show /etc/fstab ?
[11:34] <eight> No permission might mean the drive is already mounted somehow
[11:35] <witheringwanton> ValeraRozuvan, it fills root and crashes the system, or at least I did when I tried it
[11:35] <learner> mgedmin: how do I uses livecd's grub shell to boot main os? I'm a noob. basically, I know how to click on thins, lol. Never ever have I hit 'e' in grub
[11:35] <witheringwanton> I tried to compile a special version of pytorch & it just died. Took me a while to find out what happened
[11:36] <eight> learner: First result of stackoverflow
[11:36] <eight> It's not that hard
[11:36] <eight> Only 2 commands
[11:36] <eight> Or 3
[11:36] <mgedmin> learner: I don't remember if the livecd's grub gives you a boot menu, if it does press esc and you're at the shell
[11:36] <learner> ok
[11:36] <witheringwanton> learning how to find info on linux is a skill that takes time
[11:36] <learner> eight, you want my system's fstab, I'll go get it and put it on pastebin, gimme a sec
[11:37] <mgedmin> hmm what's "device-mapper: reload ioctl on osprober-linux-sda5  failed: Das Gerät oder die Ressource ist belegt"
[11:37] <witheringwanton> I was absolutely clueless when I started around 2009, but the nice people on IRC helped me out
[11:37] <eight> I have to go now but someone else might be able to help. Good luck
[11:37] <mgedmin> and why would grub-mkconfig would need to reload partition tables?
[11:38] <learner> eight: my fstab: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fqqHk7sDb9/
[11:39] <learner> mgedmin, sorry for the deleay. Ressourece is belegt means resource is ocupied (literally), but I guess busy is the more adequate translation
[11:40] <learner> oh, ok, thanks, eight. have a good day/night
[11:41] <learner> mgedmin: yes this live usb shows a grub screen when I start up, with ubuntu, ubuntu safe mode and memtest and memtestplusanumber
[11:41] <mgedmin> right, so press esc, you get a shell, then play around with 'ls'
[11:42] <mgedmin> IIRC ls shows you the disk devices, then ls (hd0) shows you the partitions, etc -- been a while since I did that
[11:42] <mgedmin> tab-completion is an alternative to ls
[11:42] <learner> I know sda5 is where my system (rpool) resides
[11:42] <learner> sda2 is where efi and grub live
[11:42] <mgedmin> you need to find where on the hard disk is your primary grub.cfg
[11:42] <mgedmin> it might be in the efi partition
[11:42] <learner> and sda1 is wher esome grub img or so is
[11:42] <mgedmin> wait I am a complete idio
[11:43] <learner> that would then prolly be sda2
[11:43] <mgedmin> the problem you're trying to fix is that your main grub.cfg is broken (missing all kernels), right?
[11:43] <mgedmin> so you can't chain-load it
[11:43] <learner> yes
[11:43] <learner> it is included in the paste
[11:43] <learner> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/KyjmhTGYZf/
[11:44] <learner> it seems to only have memtest
[11:44] <mgedmin> if you know how to boot without a grub.cfg -- i.e. what kernel/initrd options to enter, with what kernel command-line options for specifying the root partition etc, then grub shell would be helpful
[11:44] <learner> and hence computer boots directly into blue memtest
[11:44] <learner> unfortunately, I have no clue
[11:44] <mgedmin> if you used ext4, maybe I could help you craft working linux/initrd commands
[11:44] <mgedmin> but zfs I have no clue how things look
[11:44] <wyre> matsaman, so should I install dbus? 🤔
[11:44] <mgedmin> livecd + chroot seems like the only option
[11:44] <wyre> matsaman, what package?
[11:45] <learner> interestingly, grub corrupted already last Thursday
[11:45] <learner> I never played around with grub.cfg myself. I
[11:45] <matsaman> wyre: honestly I'd be surprised if you didn't already have it, but you might need some accessory package
[11:45] <wyre> matsaman, http://ix.io/3nV4
[11:45] <learner> All I did was apt upgrade
[11:45] <matsaman> wyre: dpkg -l | grep -i dbus; sudo apt-get install apt-file; apt-file search dbus, etc.
[11:46] <learner> and after that, I rebooted, and arrived in memtest.
[11:46] <learner> someone on irc helped me figure out how to chroot and run grub-mkconfig, and that fixed it on Thursday.
[11:46] <wyre> matsaman, https://bpa.st/R6AA
[11:47] <learner> and on Monday it happened again, and I tried to run the exact same commands - that's why I had copied and saved them
[11:47] <learner> but this time grub-mkconfig didn't cut it
[11:47] <matsaman> I gotta work, later
[11:47] <learner> though i did it exactly the same way
[11:47] <learner> i copy pasted the commands last time into a text file and this time from the text file to the terminal
[11:48] <learner> yet last time the mount errors did not occur, and grub-mkconfig fixed it
[11:49] <learner> my /etc/default/grub also is not very long. I compared it with templates from online and it is missing all the commented out text. But since it is commented out anyway in the templates, I thoiught it might not be the reason
[11:50] <mgedmin> learner: I'm wondering about the use of grub-mkconfig; the canonical recovery procedure has you running sudo update-grub
[11:50] <learner> should i try running update-grub in the chroot , instead of grub-mkconfig? and if so, does it require any arguments?
[11:50] <mgedmin> it requires no arguments
[11:51] <mgedmin> the other thing to check is the contents of /etc/grub.d/, deleting files from there can result in grub.cfg missing sections
[11:51] <learner> ok, then that's what I'll be doing now. if no arguments, then I feel save. with agruments, I always fear that I might break more by unknowingly providing the wrong ones
[11:52] <mgedmin> debsums -ac grub-common is the command that checks for config file differences from packaged defaults
[11:52] <mgedmin> I guess /etc/grub.d/10_linux_zfs is the important one for you
[11:52] <learner> mgedmin: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xFjMrs2jkc/
[11:52] <eight> learner: Your /etc/fstab doesn't seem to have entry for the zfs no ?
[11:52] <mgedmin> well, it's not deleted!
[11:53] <learner> so I run 'debsums -ac grub-common' in the chroot terminal now?
[11:54] <mgedmin> learner: yes
[11:54] <mgedmin> no output means good
[11:54] <learner> command not found
[11:54] <mgedmin> ah, yay, apt install debsums?
[11:54] <learner> no way
[11:54] <mgedmin> there's a builtin equivalent in dpkg that I don't remember how to invoke...
[11:54] <learner> no wait
[11:54] <mgedmin> dpkg --verify grub-common
[11:55] <learner> want' there a command to make my terminal spit out everything in english?
[11:55] <learner> instead of German?
[11:55] <eight> Set LC_ALL=C
[11:55] <learner> thank you,eight
[11:56] <learner> LC_ALL=C debsums -ac grub-common
[11:56] <learner> still in German
[11:56] <eight> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 then
[11:56] <mgedmin> ok, dpkg --verify prints the names of changed files only
[11:57] <mgedmin> you get German because it's bash that's printing the error
[11:57] <mgedmin> and you don't set LC_ALL globally for your bash session, you set it for a one-time run of an external debsums command
[11:58] <mgedmin> (is my guess)
[11:58] <learner> paste on its way
[11:58] <learner> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mHYbcTKqjz/
[11:59] <mgedmin> export LC_ALL=C.UTF-8
[11:59] <mgedmin> your 1st and 3rd commands are running 'C' after setting LC_ALL to an empty value
[11:59] <learner> sorry, this one:
[11:59] <learner> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mGC73MvjVp/
[11:59] <mgedmin> spaces not allowed in bash variable assignments
[12:03] <learner> mgedmin, eight: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FCKQk8dRBC/
[12:05] <learner> and: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gfkp3tRSnW/
[12:07] <learner> so i guess at least the apt error is related to the mounting problem. maybe same so is grub/os-prober?
[12:09] <mgedmin> is your /var/lib mounted?  iirc an earlier pastebin had complaints about that
[12:10] <OceanGao> Why the support channel moved to Libera Chat?
[12:11] <learner> mgedmin I think it is, I mean /var/lib is not empty, as you can see in the pastebin I ran ls on it
[12:11] <mgedmin> you have a bunch of files created in it, but not the right files
[12:12] <learner> but then again ,there were those errors
[12:12] <mgedmin> e.g. /var/lib/dpkg/status and /var/lib/dpkg/available are missing
[12:12] <mgedmin> so those directories did not get mounted, and then you ran some apt/dpkg commands, and those created lock files and whatnot
[12:13] <mgedmin> `mount -a` inside the chroot might be a good idea?
[12:13] <mgedmin> not sure how zfs does things
[12:13] <learner> i see
[12:13] <learner> maybe I should consult the zfs guys
[12:13] <mgedmin> or zsys, which is ubuntu's custom fancy layer on top of zfs that creates automatic snapshots for every apt command and other fancy stuff like that
[12:17] <learner> I went to #zfs and showed the pastebin link too. Let's see if someone there knows what is wrong
[12:19] <learner> eight: I got your pm
[12:19] <learner> but it seems I cannot reply
[12:20] <learner> i must log in with services to message you it says. no idea what that means
[12:21] <mgedmin> you need to register with nickserv
[12:21] <mgedmin> https://libera.chat/guides/registration
[12:23] <learner> thanks
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:37] <sjm_uk> Hello - discovered strange behaviour in package fonts-noto-color-emoji - seems like a bug, where should I file the report? (Using Mint 20.1)
[12:39] <kubast2> https://torrentfreak.com/comcast-subscriber-receives-dmca-notice-for-downloading-ubuntu-210526/ Stop right there criminal scum! Nobody breaks the law on my watch! I'm confiscating your stolen goods. Now pay your fine or it's off to jail.
[12:40] <jeremy31> sjm_uk: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[12:41] <sjm_uk> jeremy31, thanks - is there a way to check if it is already reported before I go to the bother of creating yet another online account?
[12:41] <sjm_uk> I can't see how to locate the package or filed bugs (not used Launchpad for a decade or so)
[12:42] <jeremy31> sjm_uk: There hasn't been a bug filed recently against that package
[12:42] <mybalzitch> kubast2: sounds fake
[12:43] <kubast2> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/nkztyv/copyright_notice_from_isp_for_pirating_linux_is/ I am not sure either
[12:44] <kubast2> I just heard of the story today mybalzitch
[12:44] <sjm_uk> ok, thanks - will see if I can work out what to do. Essentially an upgrade to 0~20200916-1~ubuntu20.04.1 makes the UTF-8 thumbs up 👍 display the thumbs-down emoji in some apps such as gajim and gedit, - downgrade to 0~20200408-1 fixes it
[12:45] <mgedmin> sjm_uk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-noto-color-emoji/
[12:45] <mgedmin> is where you look for existing bugs
[12:46] <sjm_uk> Thanks - this looks like I am being unkind to my colleagues...
[12:46] <mgedmin> $ ubuntu-bug fonts-noto-color-emoji is how you report new ones
[12:46] <sjm_uk> perfect - thanks
[12:46] <jeremy31> sjm_uk: you will need a launchpad account
[12:47] <sjm_uk> not so perfect... *** Problem in fonts-noto-color-emojiThe problem cannot be reported:
[12:47] <sjm_uk> This is not an official Linux package. Please remove any third party package and try again.
[12:47] <mgedmin> oh, interesting
[12:47] <mgedmin> you have some PPA enabled?
[12:48] <sjm_uk> dont think so - wuill check on my laptop which has the same issue (I have downgraded package on this PC)
[12:48] <jeremy31> sjm_uk: Just see the link I posted earlier
[12:48] <mgedmin> apt policy fonts-noto-color-emoji
[12:49] <sjm_uk> fonts-noto-color-emoji:
[12:49] <sjm_uk>   Installed: 0~20200408-1
[12:49] <sjm_uk>   Candidate: 0~20200916-1~ubuntu20.04.1
[12:49] <sjm_uk>   Version table:
[12:49] <sjm_uk>      0~20200916-1~ubuntu20.04.1 500
[12:49] <sjm_uk>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 Packages
[12:49] <jkc> sjm_uk: https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:50] <sjm_uk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7HdCSwsxhf/
[12:51] <mgedmin> and that causes a "This is not an official Linux package." from ubuntu-bug? weird
[12:51] <mgedmin> I would expect a "bug cannot be reported because package is outdated version" or something
[12:54] <sjm_uk> updated paste: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/79wTqmfGVW/
[12:56] <mgedmin> upgrade back to latest versin, ubuntu-bug, _then_ downgrade?
[12:56] <sjm_uk> will try
[12:56] <sjm_uk> same again
[12:57] <sjm_uk> Installed: 0~20200916-1~ubuntu20.04.1
[12:57] <mgedmin> fwiw fonts-noto-color-emoji 0~20200916-1 shows 👍 as a thumbs up in gnome-terminal
[12:57] <sjm_uk> This is not an official Linux package. Please remove any third party package and try again.
[12:57] <mgedmin> wait, you said you're on linux mint?  maybe ubuntu-bug is patched not to work there, to avoid littering ubuntu bug tracker with linuxmint bugs?
[12:57] <sjm_uk> maybe
[12:57] <sjm_uk> fyi now I have upgraded, the emoji is wrong again
[12:58] <sjm_uk> This i a thumbs down in gedit: 👍
[12:58] <sjm_uk> yet thumbs up in hexchat
[12:58] <sjm_uk> down in gajim
[12:58] <sjm_uk> up in xfce term
[12:59] <mgedmin> pasted to gedit to check, still looks right for me
[12:59] <mgedmin> so if the bug is in the font, it's in the focal-specific build
[12:59]  * mgedmin is on ubuntu 21.04
[13:00] <sjm_uk> downgrade instantly fixes it in gedit
[13:00] <sjm_uk> yet in hex, I now get the 'OK' emoji
[13:01] <sjm_uk> so it seems the utf8 is assigned to the wrong emoji
[13:01] <sjm_uk> shifting along one
[13:01] <sjm_uk> the name is still ok
[13:01] <sjm_uk> the :: name
[13:08] <sjm_uk> will aim to get a bug filed, however if you find people are sad when you give them a thumbs-up in gajim, then ask them to check the emoji package ver!
[13:23] <zz>  hello liberians
[13:48] <OnkelTem> Howdy!
[13:49]  * fakefur looks around at the new place
[13:49] <OnkelTem> Congrats with this new era for the community, from scratch!
[13:50] <OnkelTem> Like we are all new. Like we don't know each other. As a matter of fact - I myself have a new name now. Because my old one was taken by some scoundrel  :)
[13:51] <OnkelTem> But I don't complain. My only headache at the moment - is new Chrome (91). Which incorrectly detect DPI. The UI looks ulgy:
[13:52] <OnkelTem> https://i.gyazo.com/ce6c5a8b47eadb23f4a80f3d36201f74.png
[13:52] <OnkelTem> Ideas?
[13:53] <OnkelTem> What has fixed the issue - is to pass --force-device-scale-factor=2 to google-chrome-stable in /usr/share/applications/....desktop
[13:54] <OnkelTem> but after update it's gonna be lost
[13:54] <OnkelTem> it seems like it's stopped interpreting the scaling factor from the system properly
[13:54] <r5> does the upgrade override the .desktop file every time?
[13:55] <OnkelTem> I guess it can, if it's a part of the package
[14:09] <coat_hanger> Is this channel also for Xubuntu, Kubuntu etc?
[14:09] <RikMills> if you have questions that aren't specific to such a flavour, then yes
[14:19] <DJones> coat_hanger: Yes, you  can ask questions here, but the xubuntu and kubuntu channels mighthave better answers
[14:20] <coat_hanger> DJones, I was just wondering if they made #xubuntu etc yet
[14:20] <coat_hanger> Seems they did
[14:20] <DJones> Might still be working through the new access on libera
[14:35] <DarkTrick> **Q** I get `gtk-3-examples : Depends: libgtk-3-0 (= 3.24.23-1ubuntu1) but 3.24.23-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed`  when I try to install `gtk-3-examples`. How do I solve this?
[14:36] <DarkTrick> I heard I "need to find all gtk packages installed with version 3.24.23-1ubuntu1.1 and force downgrade them to 3.24.23-1ubuntu"; but how would I do that?
[14:37] <tuxifreund> DarkTrick: try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt install -f
[14:39] <DarkTrick> tuxifreund, still same problem
[14:39] <leftyfb> DarkTrick: what version of ubuntu?
[14:39] <DarkTrick> 20.10
[14:39] <DarkTrick> leftyfb,
[14:39] <RikMills> must be groovy
[14:40] <leftyfb> DarkTrick: what exactly are you installing?
[14:40] <DarkTrick> gtk-3-examples
[14:40] <leftyfb> DarkTrick: why?
[14:40] <RikMills> pastebin the output of 'dpkg --list | grep 3.24.23-1ubuntu1.1'
[14:40] <DarkTrick> leftyfb, because I'd like to see gtk3 examples(?)
[14:40] <DarkTrick> :D
[14:40] <leftyfb> DarkTrick: apt-cache policy gtk-3-examples | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:41] <RikMills> they have installed some packages from -proposed
[14:41] <DarkTrick> leftyfb, https://termbin.com/efm5
[14:41] <RikMills> that since were pulled due to a failed SRU verification
[14:41] <leftyfb> RikMills: proposed shouldn't break things
[14:42] <leftyfb> oh, that would
[14:42] <DarkTrick> RikMills, Thank you (again). shows libgtk-3-* packages... I'm afraid, if I have to downgrade them..
[14:42] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1915092
[14:42] <RikMills> DarkTrick: pastebin the output, so we can build an apt command to downgrade them
[14:42] <DarkTrick> ioria, but that's an invalid report
[14:43] <ioria> maybe read it
[14:43] <DarkTrick> RikMills, https://pastebin.com/NUggc1Bi
[14:44] <RikMills> give me a few mins
[14:46] <DarkTrick> ioria, well, the person writes, that they had to "reinstall [their] desktop"; I should stay away from any recommendations in there...
[14:46] <DarkTrick> RikMills, :)
[14:47] <ioria> DarkTrick, probably
[14:48] <RikMills> sudo apt-get install gir1.2-gtk-3.0=3.24.23-1ubuntu1 gtk-update-icon-cache=3.24.23-1ubuntu1 libgtk-3-0=3.24.23-1ubuntu1 libgtk-3-bin=3.24.23-1ubuntu1 libgtk-3-common=3.24.23-1ubuntu1 libgtk-3-dev=3.24.23-1ubuntu1 libgtk-3-doc=3.24.23-1ubuntu1
[14:48] <RikMills> DarkTrick: try that ^
[14:48] <leftyfb> DarkTrick: btw, 20.10 will be OLD in about 2 months. Might want to think about upgrading before it goes EOL
[14:48] <leftyfb> s/OLD/EOL/g
[14:59] <DarkTrick> RikMills, I hope for the best
[15:01] <DarkTrick> RikMills, there must be dark magic involved here! It worked like a charm!
[15:01] <DarkTrick> RikMills, Thank you!
[15:02] <RikMills> DarkTrick: no problem :)
[15:02] <DarkTrick> leftyfb, doesnt 21.04 still have this bug, which prevents it from final rollout?
[15:02] <leftyfb> DarkTrick: 20.04 is supported until 2025
[15:03] <DarkTrick> leftyfb, what does that tell me?
[15:03] <leftyfb> DarkTrick: 21.04 is already rolled out
[15:03] <RikMills> there was a bug that blocked upgrades to 21.04, which got fixed, then upgrades got enabled, then a new bug popped up, and they were disabled again
[15:03] <DarkTrick> RikMills, thanks for the quick update!
[15:04] <RikMills> LP: #1928434
[15:04] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1928434 in shim (Ubuntu) "shim-signed does not boot on EFI 2.40 by Apple" [Critical, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1928434
[15:04] <DarkTrick> I'll simply wait until I get a popup
[15:04] <leftyfb> DarkTrick: my point of 20.10 being EOL in 2 months is unrelated to the issue you are having. You should upgraded before it goes EOL
[15:04] <RikMills> that bug is the new blocker
[15:05] <DarkTrick> leftyfb, thanks for the thoughts, but it's not that I have a choice
[15:05] <DarkTrick> 20.10 should not go EOL until 21.04 is safely out, btw
[15:07] <DarkTrick> Anyhow, general thanks to all people involved in my problem! I really appreciate it!
[15:07] <RikMills> I would be astonished if that bug was not fixed in plenty of time
[15:24] <gordonjcp> hiya
[15:25] <gordonjcp> is it possible to get Ubuntu network-manager to "prioritise" one connection over another?
[15:26] <gordonjcp> for the avoidance of the XY problem, what I'm trying to achieve is a setup where when I'm running a 4G connection network-manager won't "helpfully" try to switch me to wifi
[15:26] <ioria> maybe with nmcli
[15:28] <gordonjcp> ioria: thanks, I'll take a look
[15:28] <Hexorg> Did you guys see https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/nkztyv/copyright_notice_from_isp_for_pirating_linux_is
[15:28] <jeremy31> Hexorg: That is not a support issue
[15:28] <gordonjcp> ioria: it's super annoying because the moment it sees an open wifi network with "free" connection it'll try to jump on it
[15:29] <Hexorg> Oh, my bad... Just glanced over the topic
[15:29] <gordonjcp> ioria: actually I guess telling it not to join unencrypted networks would do the job
[15:29] <jeremy31> gordonjcp: Isn't there an option to blacklist a SSID or MAC in Network Manager?
[15:30] <ioria> gordonjcp, https://askubuntu.com/questions/165679/how-to-manage-available-wireless-network-priority   ; http://bss.technology/tutorials/red-hat-enterprise-linux-v7-networking/networkmanager-connection-priority-manage-network-profile-priority-in-linux/
[15:30] <gordonjcp> jeremy31: yes but then I'd have a blacklist as long as your arm
[15:30] <gordonjcp> ioria: aha!
[15:30] <gordonjcp> thanks
[15:33] <bittin_> good afternoon
[15:51] <goupildb> #linux
[15:52] <void09> Hi. Simple one: how do I install this package https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/usb-modeswitch-data on bionic ubuntu (18.04) ? without adding repos and such
[15:52] <void09> apt one liner if possible :P
[15:53] <void09> for some reason they kept usb modeswitch data to 2017 version on bionic.. which makes no sense since it's just usb device ids that should be automatically mode switched to work
[15:55] <ioria> void09, tery the snap 'snap find usbmode-switch'
[15:55] <ioria> *try
[15:55] <void09> snap packages ? no thanks
[15:56] <void09> I need official .deb ubuntu ones
[15:57] <void09> also, the live ubuntu image has no persistence if I update packages, right ?
[15:57] <void09> I am trying to install from usb thumb drive to usb thumb drive and it's taking forever
[15:57] <ravage> The only official package for bionic is the one from 2017
[15:57] <void09> ravage: I know, and I need the 2019 one
[15:58] <ravage> So use the snap or build your own package
[15:58] <ravage> Or just install it from source
[15:58] <Mekaneck> upgrade to 20.04
[15:58] <Mekaneck> options enough :)
[15:58] <void09> I cannot upgrade to 20, or use snap, I need to install the official 2019 one
[15:58] <Mekaneck> why can't you upgrade....?
[15:59] <Mekaneck> you have to eventually
[15:59] <void09> I have a cluster of systems with some distro based on ubuntu 18.04, for some special purpose. I want to figure out how to add support for a wifi dongle, so it can be merged upstream.
[15:59] <almostdvs> can't have everything.  don't see why it needs to be a one liner
[15:59] <void09> no, I don't, not up to me. I use arch linux btw
[16:00] <skoobasteeve> there are build instructions here: https://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/#install
[16:00] <void09> much simpler when every package is "latest" and no different branches
[16:00] <almostdvs> k
[16:00] <void09> ok so what about the focal package, how do I install that ? surely there must be a way
[16:00] <ogra> there is a dependency chain ...
[16:01] <ogra> so you likely wont't be able to do that easily
[16:01] <ogra> use the snap or build from source
[16:01] <void09> it's a shitty 30kb package that contains just  static data, usb device ids
[16:01] <jeremy31> void09: what wifi dongle?
[16:01] <ecormier> sounds easy to build from source
[16:01] <ravage> Then extract the package and overwrite it
[16:01] <ogra> so grab it, manually unpack it and put it where it needs to be
[16:02] <ogra> its an ar archive after all
[16:02] <ravage> It search the id you need and add to the rules file
[16:02] <leftyfb> void09: what distro are you running exactly?
[16:02] <void09> jeremy31: some rtl8821cu driver based one.
[16:02] <void09> leftyfb: I am trying to figure this out for an ubuntu 18.04 based distro
[16:02] <leftyfb> void09: "based distro" ... what distro is it?
[16:03] <leftyfb> void09: ubuntu is a debian based distro, but it's not debian
[16:03] <void09> mmpos, but this info brings 0 value, I am asking a question about ubuntu itself
[16:03] <jeremy31> The usb-modeswitch data is just a compressed file
[16:03] <void09> usb-modeswitch-data_20191128.orig.tar.bz2 usb-modeswitch-data_20191128-3.dsc  usb-modeswitch-data_20191128-3.debian.tar.xz
[16:03] <void09> I see 3 files for this package..
[16:04] <ravage> Then we just fall back to: only support for official Ubuntu here. Good luck anyway
[16:04] <void09> but I am asking an ubuntu question
[16:04] <void09> how do i install a package from focal into bionic, jeez
[16:05] <void09> assume it's ubuntu 18.04, which I am atm installing on an usb, just for this purpose
[16:05] <leftyfb> void09: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:05] <leftyfb> void09: installing packages from focal into bionic is not supported
[16:06] <leftyfb> void09: technically, we cannot support non-official Ubuntu derivatives, regardless of the issue or how much you think this is an ubuntu problem and not specific to your distro.
[16:06] <jeremy31> void09: You should be able to find the file you need with a search on the USB ID
[16:06] <void09> ok, how do I "hack" it then. It should theoretically work
[16:07] <void09> leftyfb: ok nvm ubuntu based distro, as I said, I am trying to figure this out on OFFICIAL ubuntu 18.04 so I can help it be added on the DERIVATIVE one
[16:07] <ravage> I think everyone already offered more than enough ways to get the files on your system
[16:07] <leftyfb> void09: good luck
[16:07] <void09> I only need one way, no snapd or update to 20
[16:21] <void09> dpkg -i usb-modeswitch-data_20191128-3_all.deb
[16:21] <void09> I think this is it
[16:23] <void09> I give this support chan a rating of 0/5 for the help offered :P
[16:24] <ravage> Be assured we will forward it to our supervisor
[16:24] <leftyfb> void09: feel free to submit feedback to your distro's website
[16:24] <void09> leftyfb: I asked an ubuntu question, not an xyz question
[16:25] <void09> What I intend with the information I obtain further is none of your concern
[16:25] <leftyfb> void09: you are not running ubuntu
[16:25] <void09> I am
[16:25] <leftyfb> void09: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:26] <void09> http://termbin.com/8w8y
[16:26] <void09> happy ?
[16:27] <jeremy31> void09: what is the ID of the dongle?
[16:28] <void09> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bda:1a2b Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[16:28] <void09> this is before usb modeswitch
[16:28] <void09> Bus 003 Device 009: ID 0bda:c811 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 802.11ac NIC
[16:28] <void09> After modeswitch
[16:28] <jeremy31> void09: https://amigotechnotes.wordpress.com/2020/09/18/build-the-linux-kernel-module-to-enable-rtl8811cu-rtl8821cu-usb-wireless-dongles/
[16:31] <jeremy31> void09: the file for usb-modeswitch is probably just https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/ee8627a63844103ab9c5a97e64f9f813
[16:31] <void09> thank you jeremy31.. got the driver figured out, was missing just the modeswitch part
[16:32] <void09> wanted to see if ubuntu did the modeswitching itself if updating the db to 2019, which contains that id.. although with a different target id than what I get after modeswitching
[16:33] <jeremy31> Likely because the memory chip is used with many different wifi devices
[16:52] <void09> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/usb-modeswitch-data/usb-modeswitch-data_20191128-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i usb-modeswitch-data_20191128-3_all.deb && sudo reboot
[16:52] <void09> oneliner :P
[16:52] <void09> btw is there some cli tool that can search/browse/download from all this ubuntu branches mess ?
[16:54] <svm_invictvs> Heya
[16:54] <svm_invictvs> I'm having high CPU load with gnome-shell. I search and I udnerstand there's a ton of different causes of this particular problem.
[16:54] <svm_invictvs> Many people are blaming extensions.
[16:55] <svm_invictvs> But according to what I found these are the only extensions I have running.
[16:55] <r5> what is the most cpu hungry process in your htop?
[16:55] <svm_invictvs> desktop-icons@csoriano  ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com  ubuntu-dock@ubuntu.com
[16:55] <void09> I know it's a shitty spam response, I had tons of issues with it myself, years ago. Easy fix was plasma shell :P
[16:55] <svm_invictvs> heh
[16:56] <ecormier> I would start by logging in with xorg....
[16:57] <svm_invictvs> r5, Appears to be chrome, uf
[16:57] <svm_invictvs> r5, What is htop telling me that top doesn't tell me?
[16:59] <r5> svm_invictvs: i like its filtering functions
[16:59] <svm_invictvs> I see
[17:00] <svm_invictvs> r5, Well quitting out of chrome and Google Meets solved it. Though doing nothing gnome-shell should be doing less than 11%
[17:06] <heynnema> First time here... testing...
[17:08] <heynnema> Can I get one hello from anybody? Thanks!
[17:09] <Eickmeyer> !ask
[17:09] <ubot3> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[17:10] <lord4163> heynnema: hello :)
[17:10] <heynnema> Thanks lord4163
[17:10] <lord4163> and welcome!
[17:12] <leftyfb> |-|: please stop
[17:12] <|-|> sorry
[17:12] <heynnema> !help
[17:12] <ubot3> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[17:13] <leftyfb> heynnema: there is an almost infinite number of channels for testing an IRC client. Feel free to /join #libera as a good place to get help with IRC
[17:15] <pau> ciao
[17:15] <warlock> hey
[17:54] <ax562> hello, does anyone know how to cloak nick?
[17:55] <jeremy31> ax562: might ask in #Libera but you have a dynamic cellular connection
[17:55] <ax562> jeremy31 thanks for that info.  #libera-cloak is the place to cloak
[18:24] <Nintendo1889> how do I change the static IP address in ubuntu 20.04 lts? I can't create the netplan /etc/network*/99-fdsafasd file, permission denied. Used sudo.
[18:26] <ogra> Nintendo1889, use netplan ... config files go to /etc/netplan/ ... https://netplan.io/examples/ has examples of config files
[18:26] <ogra> (second one is static)
[18:27] <Nintendo1889> Oh ok, I was in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d
[18:30] <Nintendo1889> I was following this guide, which says to disable cloud-init, but maybe the stock ubuntu install doesn't use cloud-init: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-configure-static-ip-address-on-ubuntu-20-04/
[18:40] <leftyfb> Nintendo1889: you can't edit /etc/network*   that's not a valid directory name
[18:44] <jeremy31> I will set the static address in the router, then it doesn't change when I do a fresh install
[18:49] <Diagon> Notificaitons for hexchat and ubuntu are the same on my 16.04 & 20.04 machines, but on the latter, I get a notification on *any* message in *any* channel.
[18:49] <Diagon> Anything I can do?
[18:54] <bray90820_3> Hey is this the new place from the ##ubuntu freenode server
[18:54] <leftyfb> bray90820_3: this is the official Ubuntu support IRC channel. What can we help you with?
[18:55] <bray90820_3> leftyfb I am wondering if this is the same channel from freenode or not
[18:55] <leftyfb> bray90820_3: this is the official support channel. It no longer resides on freenode. Do you have an Ubuntu support question we can help you with?
[18:56] <bray90820_3> My only question was if this was the channel from freenode and it looks like it is
[19:02] <braewoods> never thought i'd see this. ubuntu moving like this.
[19:02] <braewoods> o.O
[19:03] <marathon> ?? to a new chat server?
[19:03] <braewoods> yea. i thought ubuntu irc would remain where it was.
[19:03] <Diagon> just search on freenode chaos or the like.  you'll see what's going on.
[19:03] <braewoods> but anyway, guess i should go to offtopic
[19:03] <Nintendo1889> Freenode is full of lefty feminists who love CoC (code of conduct)
[19:04] <braewoods> doesn't ubuntu has its own CoC?
[19:04] <marathon> Oh please let's keep politics out of here, please!
[19:04] <Nintendo1889> wait, I forgot you can't delete messages on irc, whoops
[19:04] <Nintendo1889> Last used irc in 2005
[19:04] <Nintendo1889> sorry
[19:04] <jeremy31> Diagon: check settings/preferences/alerts
[19:05] <marathon> @Nintendo1889, No worries.
[19:05] <marathon> I'm like you - Haven't used it in years either.
[19:12] <Diagon> jeremy31 - it's a very annoying gnome bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1825710
[19:14] <braewoods> Diagon: wait, seriously? they issue notifications for so much random stuff?
[19:14] <Diagon> Ya.
[19:14] <Nintendo1889> I am having a really rough time with windows dhcp server, xcp-ng control center, and a ubuntu guest that needs to be staticed to run xen orchestra from sources (XOCE). I added the reservation from the current lease, but the lease range is 100-200. I can't reserve the lease outside that range, eg 192.168.2.225. If I get the netplan config right, it would be ok. Here's my netplan config: https://pastebin.com/79DgeN7b
[19:14] <Diagon> Lots of complaints.
[19:14] <Diagon> for hexchat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1862373
[19:14] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1825710 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Remove 'Application is ready' notification" [Wishlist, Triaged] [duplicate: 1862373]
[19:14] <braewoods> sheesh.
[19:15] <braewoods> i'll take a look at the source. i wonder how easy it is to patch out into a setting or so.
[19:16] <Diagon> braewoods :thumbs-up:
[19:17] <Diagon> Here's another one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1864682
[19:19] <braewoods> i think i found what triggers it. it's in some JS code.
[19:19] <braewoods> js/ui/windowAttentionHandler.js
[19:20] <braewoods> best bet though is to get it added as a configurable option
[19:20] <braewoods> to upstream
[19:20] <leftyfb> Nintendo1889: You don't reserve DHCP leases outside of your DHCP pool. It's pointless to set a DHCP static lease if you're just going to set a static ip on the client anyway. Also, your DNS config is invalid. Unless 192.168.2.205 is just a mirror of the records on 1.1.1.1(it's not). You will get local DNS failures
[19:20] <marathon> Diagon can't help noticing that the Hexchat Flatpak works great in Gnome-Shell ;-P
[19:20] <Diagon> braewoods - Anything I need to do?
[19:21] <braewoods> Diagon: i'm not planning to implement it; i don't use gnome myself. i just was curious what i could find.
[19:21] <leftyfb> Nintendo1889: you also need to disable DHCP in that config
[19:21] <Diagon> marathon - ahhh.  Not using flatpack.  But why?  It's a gnome issue as far as I can see...
[19:21] <braewoods> mostly because i hate fighting upstream to get stuff implemented.
[19:22] <braewoods> but it does look like you might be able to get away with adding a gsettings option initially and add a UI for it later
[19:22] <marathon> Diagon You asking why Flatpak?
[19:23] <Diagon> braewoods - ah.  Well, I suppose I should at least report a bug, yes?
[19:23] <Diagon> marathon - well, I really hate snaps and such, but ... what's the relation to the notification issue I'm being annoyed by?
[19:24] <braewoods> Diagon: well you could always build your own gnome-shell with it patched out
[19:25] <marathon> Diagon: well, I'm not the best at following IRC conversations, but I thought you were saying there was a gnome bug with hexchat. My point was that it works fine, doesn't display your bug and I'm in Gnome 3.39.5
[19:25] <braewoods> marathon: it's not a bug per say, it's really a feature request. people want to be able to turn off this specific notification due to how noisy it can get.
[19:26] <marathon> Diagon: Doesn't the preferences help with that?
[19:26] <Diagon> braewoods - well, that might be beyond me.  And then the upkeep...
[19:26] <braewoods> marathon: there's no preference for this. i checked the source.
[19:26] <Diagon> marathon - only if I turn notifications off completely.
[19:27] <braewoods> just one that lets extensions disable it but that's not a user setting
[19:27] <marathon> Diagon: Chatting/Alerts Isn't that the 'noise' you're referring to?
[19:27] <Diagon> No.  "Application is ready"
[19:27] <Diagon> Wasn't there in 16.04
[19:27] <Diagon> Now it's crazy noisy
[19:28] <marathon> OIC Hm I have seen something on extensions.gnome.org that quiets that message (I think if memory serves).
[19:28] <Nintendo1889> @leftfb Where is the dhcp in that config?
[19:29] <ogra> Diagon, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1236/noannoyance/ perhaps ?
[19:29] <Nintendo1889> I followed the static config here: https://netplan.io/examples/
[19:29] <braewoods> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1007/window-is-ready-notification-remover/
[19:29] <braewoods> found one
[19:30] <braewoods> i guess JS overrides work too
[19:30] <marathon> @braewoods Yeah that looks like the extension
[19:30] <leftyfb> Nintendo1889: https://netplan.io/examples/#using-dhcp-and-static-addressing  set dhcp4: false
[19:30] <Diagon> Someone else is saying they're using one called "Focus my Window"
[19:31] <Diagon> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1005/focus-my-window/
[19:31] <marathon> @ogra yup that's it
[19:32] <Diagon> Alright all - thanks.  I'll try one of those.
[19:33] <leftyfb> Nintendo1889: your static ip needs to be outside of the dhcp pool on your Windows dhcp server
[19:35] <maret> hi, i run pwmconfigm just to try it and now  my fan on motherboard is spinning . What should I do ? this is the ouput -> https://paste.debian.net/1198906/
[19:37] <Nintendo1889> How do I apply the netplan config? How does netplan know to choose my config over the default one?
[19:37] <sarnold> Nintendo1889: 'netplan apply'
[19:38] <leftyfb> Nintendo1889: what do you mean the default one? Do you have multiple files in /etc/netplan/ that have configs for the same interface(es)?
[19:42] <Nintendo1889> yeah, the default one written by subiquity with the list of interfaces. I'll just it then
[19:42] <Nintendo1889> 00-installer-config.yaml
[19:42] <leftyfb> Nintendo1889: I would move it elsewhere as a backup
[19:46] <BeneditoSalvador> I'm not able to seed created torrents on ubuntu, even after adding some trackers, already tried it with several bittorrent clients; is ufw blocking it?
[19:48] <leftyfb> BeneditoSalvador: ubuntu/ufw does not have any firewall rules implemented by default
[19:49] <Nintendo1889> I can't save the netplan file, using the winscp remote editor
[19:49] <Nintendo1889> I'll try in nano
[19:50] <BeneditoSalvador> so what's is possible blocking?
[19:50] <leftyfb> BeneditoSalvador: your ISP?
[19:52] <BeneditoSalvador> i don't think so, i always seed downloaded torrents for months
[19:52] <BeneditoSalvador> is it different if i created myself?
[19:52] <shubjero> I made it to Libera!
[19:53] <sixwheeledbeast> \o/
[19:56] <leftyfb> BeneditoSalvador: you probably want ##bittorrent for help setting that up
[19:57] <BeneditoSalvador> i'll check that, thanks
[20:01] <marathon> @BeneditoSalvador, R U using VPN? If so, probably isn't your ISP. Is UFW activated? I don't think it is by default on Ubuntu ...
[20:02] <sixwheeledbeast> You usually have to use ufw to enable it yer
[20:02] <marathon> @BeneditoSalvador, however if it is activated, by default it blocks incoming, so I noticed it had problems if I was only seeding and not downloading 1st.
[20:02] <BeneditoSalvador> i'm not using vpn, ufw is activated
[20:02] <Nintendo1889> 00-installer-config.yaml:10:18: Invalid YAML: inconsistent indentation:
[20:02] <Nintendo1889>                  gateway4: 192.168.2.1
[20:02] <Nintendo1889>                  ^
[20:03] <marathon> For torrenting you SHOULD use a vpn!
[20:03] <maret> is it possible that pwmconfig caused my fan running on high speed?
[20:03] <maret> I didnt save fancontrol config
[20:03] <Nintendo1889> I'm guessing the error comes before the ^
[20:03] <marathon> Turn off ufw and try
[20:04] <Nintendo1889> is there an online yaml validator that works?
[20:04] <marathon> Correct @sixwheeledbeast
[20:04] <BeneditoSalvador> my country is pretty chill about domestic pirating stuff, so I never really had problems
[20:05] <Nintendo1889> found answer in google
[20:10] <marathon> @BeneditoSalvador, You never know - countries where it's "cool" are also vulnerable to private cops enforcing copy right. The right $$ greasing hands and you're exposed. However if you're not running a seed box you're probably cool. I wouldn't take the chance myself though.
[20:11] <marathon> @BeneditoSalvador, so does disabling UFW help with your seeding?
[20:11] <Nintendo1889> netplan is needlessly difficult
[20:12] <Nintendo1889> does /etc/network/interfaces still work?
[20:13] <ravage> if you install ifupdown then yes
[20:13] <mybalzitch> if you install ifupdown
[20:14] <heynnema> Nintendo1889: it depends on renderer setting in /etc/netplan/*.yaml
[20:31] <Nintendo1889> It worked finally
[21:12] <pycurious> I am trying to optimize boot speed - here is my critical chain - anyone has any comments on how to optimize this? https://paste.debian.net/1198923/
[21:30] <Aavar> leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m7pXrRMnm6/
[21:30] <leftyfb> Aavar: what is your question exactly?
[21:31] <Aavar> leftyfb: The original question was. I have one network card (enp2s0) and yet it seems (to me) that that card is listed 2 or 3 times in nmcli.
[21:32] <leftyfb> Aavar: your have "2 or 3" profiles setup in network manager associated with that interface. You only have a single ip for that interface currently
[21:32] <Aavar> what I am actually wondering is what device do I use to create a bridge for using with lxd.
[21:32] <leftyfb> enp2s0
[21:33] <Aavar> ok, thank you :)
[21:34] <leftyfb> Aavar: according to your "ip" output, you have 4 interfaces. 1: local loopback  2: physical network interface 3: default bridged lxd interface 4: a virtual interface, potentially from qemu/libvirt
[21:37] <Aavar> leftyfb: the last one is from virtualbox
[21:39] <chilversc> for nfs /etc/exports, can I defer checking if an exported directory exists until its first accessed?
[21:42] <Aavar> leftyfb: I am really struggling  with setting up this bridge unfortunately... do I have to "down" the main ethernet for this to work or should it work with both the bridge and ethernet up?
[21:47] <aavar_> leftyfb, I killed the server ;) did you answer me?
[22:00] <Guest47000> ubuntu core, suitable for a desktop machine ?
[22:17] <leftyfb> aavar_: you probably want something like this https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/44yQpR9gQ4/
[22:18] <sebsebseb> s
[22:18] <leftyfb> aavar_: oh wait, you're running desktop. You should be able to create the bridge with network manager. Not something I've done before
[22:19] <aavar_> leftyfb, No, no desktop.
[22:19] <leftyfb> aavar_: then why are you running network manager? (nmcli)
[22:19] <aavar_> leftyfb, I think I have to set this up via nmcli because if I set it up via netplan it shows my connection as "not managed" and nowhing works...
[22:19] <leftyfb> aavar_: if it's a server, you should get netplan working again like it was by default
[22:20] <jkc> netplan is *mwah*
[22:20] <aavar_> leftyfb, I'm not following... I think netplan is working... It should be?
[22:20] <leftyfb> aavar_: then follow the link I posted
[22:21] <jkc> aavar_: Did you install networkmanager on your own?
[22:21] <aavar_> jkc, nope, bit I enabled it in netplan on my own :)
[22:21] <jkc> aavar_: I don't think that that will install networkmanager for you. Why not stick to networkd by default?
[22:22] <aavar_> jkc, because it shows my connection as "not managed" and nothing works...
[22:22] <leftyfb> aavar_: I can guarantee you that's not how it came when you installed it
[22:22] <aavar_> maybe I can remove network manager all together and go back to networkd?
[22:22] <jkc> That would imply that something is misconfigured. Changing the backend isn't the solution.
[22:22] <leftyfb> aavar_: using network manager on the server is .... ungood
[22:23] <jkc> NM is just fine for servers, but its overly heavy.
[22:23] <aavar_> leftyfb, point taken :)
[22:23] <aavar_> It might be that I have installed networkmanager at some point. It's an old beaten up server...
[22:24] <leftyfb> aavar_: what version of ubuntu?
[22:24] <aavar_> leftyfb, 20.04
[22:24] <leftyfb> aavar_: you should revert whatever it is you did to your network
[22:25] <aavar_> leftyfb, That is easier said than done ;)
[22:26] <aavar_> but... it should be ok to remove networkmanager alltogether and use networkd right?
[22:26] <aavar_> (I mean remove all the packages)
[22:26] <leftyfb> yes
[22:27] <aavar_> leftyfb, and in theory it should show the network as managed?
[22:27] <Swift110-mobile> hello all
[22:28] <vimart> Hi Swift110-mobile
[22:28] <leftyfb> aavar_: where do you see it as being "unmanaged"?
[22:28] <chilversc> how do I check where a specific path has been mounted from if the mount isn't in fstab?
[22:28] <leftyfb> chilversc: "mount"
[22:29] <chilversc> I was hoping for something like `mount -l /mnt/0`, but that complains that /mnt/0 isn't in fstab
[22:30] <aavar_> leftyfb, when I tried to configure the bridge via netplan earlier (and in cockpit)... I think (hope) it is because I had networkmanager installed.
[22:30] <leftyfb> chilversc: just type "mount"
[22:30] <leftyfb> aavar_: don't use cockpit
[22:30] <leftyfb> aavar_: remove network manager
[22:30] <aavar_> leftyfb, sounds like a plan :)
[22:30] <leftyfb> aavar_: just stick with netplan/networkd, it works out of the box
[22:31] <aavar_> lol... now my kvm is acting up as well :P
[22:32] <leftyfb> aavar_: 1 problem at a time:   step #1, revert to netplan/networkd
[22:32] <aavar_> :)
[22:34] <chilversc> leftyfb: does that always out put in the format "on ...", thus `mount | grep 'on /mnt/0 '`
[22:46] <aavar_> leftyfb, in the link you sent. Should I have a dhcp-line in the ethernets section too?
[22:47] <jkc> aavar_: Do you want the bridge to have the address, or the interface itself?
[22:48] <leftyfb> aavar_: no
[22:49] <aavar_> ok
[22:54] <trohrt> So just to clarify - this is freenode ubuntu but migrated here?
[22:54] <CodeMouse92> trohrt: Yes
[22:56] <aavar_> fml... the kvm keeps crashing so I can't configure the network to get off the kvm...
[22:57] <trohrt> Thanks
[23:04] <aavar_> leftyfb, It is not working... to get the network working I can comment out the bridge-lines and add some dhcp-lines to the Ethernets right?
[23:06] <leftyfb> aavar_: ( ls -l /etc/netplan/ ; for i in /etc/netplan/* ; do echo $i ; cat $i;done ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:19] <aavar_> leftyfb, I think I found the issue... enp2s0 still has an IP-address for some reason...
[23:19] <aavar_> can I force it to release the IP?
[23:20] <sarnold> aavar_: "release"? in the dhcp sense or in the ip addr del sense?
[23:21] <leftyfb> aavar_: sudo ip link set enp2s0 down ; sudo ip link enp2s0 up
[23:22] <leftyfb> er
[23:22] <leftyfb> the 2nd one should be: sudo ip link set enp2s0 up
[23:24] <aavar_> sarnold, I'm not sure what you mean, but the config says dhcp4: off...
[23:26] <aavar_> leftyfb, it still has the ip for some strange reason... anyway. Thank you for all your help! I will revert to previous settings (remove the bridge) and continue tomorrow :)
[23:41] <aavar_> leftyfb, arg... I can't let this go just yet. I see that I have the dhcpcd5 package installed. Should it be?
[23:41] <leftyfb> no
[23:42] <leftyfb> aavar_: looks like you made a real mess of this server
[23:44] <aavar_> leftyfb, Yes I did. Hopefully I learn something useful by fixing it and hopefully I will be able to purge it someday...
[23:44] <aavar_> YES! That was it all along!
[23:46] <aavar_> Thank you leftyfb!!