[12:31] <inetpro> wb melodie
[12:32] <melodie> thks!
[15:02] <pavlushka> inetpro: o/
[15:03] <inetpro> pavlushka: hohi
[15:04] <pavlushka> how was your day? we are facing a toned down cyclone
[15:05] <inetpro> toned down cyclone?
[15:06] <inetpro> was a busy day for me, but quiet here
[15:06] <pavlushka> inetpro: it was devastating but when it reached to us, it became less by that time
[15:07] <pavlushka> from Indian shore
[15:07] <inetpro> wow, hopefully everyone will be safe
[15:10] <inetpro> pavlushka: do you often get serious storms there?
[15:11] <pavlushka> every year around this time with a 2-3 months span
[15:17] <inetpro> take care and stay safe
[15:26] <inetpro> and then there's the apology from freenode https://freenode.net/news/post-mortem-may21
[15:26] <inetpro> too little too late?
[16:25] <inetpro> IRC Networks - Top 10 in the annual comparison https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php
[16:25] <inetpro> will be interesting to see the graphs again in a few days time
[16:56] <pavlushka> inetpro: it's a thing about the owner's another service shells which is also another Universal VM service which kinda rivals Ubuntu in some manner/scale, also drastic announcements will cost larger user base, so they tried to make the change gradual like another take over, "nothing will change and then suddenly, we cannot continue anymore"
[16:56] <pavlushka> s/another/any other
[16:57] <pavlushka> tale over
[16:57] <pavlushka> takeover
[16:58] <pavlushka> every opensource project runs the risk of it
[16:59] <inetpro> is or was he the actual owner of all the infrastructure behind freenode?
[17:00] <pavlushka> to my knowledge "is"
[17:01] <inetpro> I always thought that a lot of the infrastructure was shared or donated by other institutions like universities 
[17:02] <pavlushka> and now it is promoting proprietary services, so?
[17:03] <pavlushka> also it better for both parties to part ways for everyone's sake
[17:05] <inetpro> am hoping that this whole saga will be better for open source projects in the end
[17:05] <pavlushka> funny that freenode says you cannot collect logs without 2nd parties consent and also if in future if the 2nd party wishes, you have to allow to delete the data, also they will collect some other kind of data whose future is not clear
[17:06] <pavlushka> later was about freenode itself
[17:09] <inetpro> it's always complicated when there's money involved
[19:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> inetpro said I must say 'Hi'
[19:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> .... hi .....
[19:37] <inetpro> ThatGraemeGuy: o/
[19:38] <inetpro> will be interesting to see how many others will pop in here eventually
[19:43] <inetpro> ThatGraemeGuy: you might just want to get yourself cloaked, for what it's worth
[19:43] <inetpro> join #libera-cloak and say !cloakme
[19:43] <inetpro> this will give your account a generic user/YourName cloak to hide your IP address
[19:44] <inetpro> reference for the record: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Migrating_to_Libera_Chat
[20:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool, thanks
[20:01] <inetpro> psydroid: hi
[20:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> How busy has the channel been recently? I haven't been around for ages
[20:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> I don't even use Ubuntu anymore hehe
[20:02] <inetpro> ThatGraemeGuy: very quiet to be honest
[20:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah IRC is pretty old school I guess
[20:03] <inetpro> it's the freenode news that got everybody, including myself, to wake up again
[20:04] <inetpro> psydroid: ek sien iemand by #newsboat het aangeteken vanaf Matrix
[20:05] <psydroid> hi inetpro
[20:05] <psydroid> I still have K/Ubuntu installed for a few relatives (including my mom), but that's pretty much it
[20:05] <psydroid> inetpro, ik zal daar eens een kijkje nemen, bedankt
[21:13] <superfly> oh ThatGraemeGuy
[21:13] <superfly> *ohi
[22:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi fly :)
[22:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> OK it's tomorrow already...... bed time for me :-)