[00:12] ra: yeah, but options to apt... --install-recommends and --install-suggests ? [00:12] I've never figured out if I need/should do either of those. [00:17] gbellinoz, i install everything up until tasksel, the software installation step, i skip that === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina === popey4 is now known as popey === erica9 is now known as erica [00:27] gbellinoz, after the system is installed, apt installs depends by default. don't think i've ever used --install-suggests === paride4 is now known as paride === entuland_ is now known as entuland === ra1stlin8 is now known as ra1stlin === adduc_ is now known as adduc === h1pot is now known as BeneditoSalvador [01:06] oh my god! I just realized I mistyped vbeinfo! I thought it was vdeinfo... === leaftype is now known as celestialMusical === celestialMusical is now known as leaftype12345678 === leaftype12345678 is now known as celestialMusical === Menzie is now known as Menzador [01:53] If I want to allow other windows/apps to be always on top - EVEN above the gnome-shell menu bar then how might I do that? wmctrl does not appear to be able to allow for that.. Any ideas? [02:01] . [02:02] gbit86: I think the only way to be above the gnome shell "menu bar" is when you go full screen [02:03] I'd be willing to recompile it to change that tbh. [02:22] im trying to configure my vpn app from the terminal. when i do something like mullvad account set myaccountnumber I get an error like this: https://pastebin.com/EMqAvXhM does anyone know what this rror might indicate ? === celestialMusical is now known as leaftype === catman370 is now known as bane === bane is now known as bane370 === bane370 is now known as catman370 [03:22] Is it ok to talk about Pop!_OS UI improvements one has made in here? [03:23] gbit86: #ubuntu-discuss please [03:25] lotuspsychje: sounds good, thanks === boris_ is now known as boris [03:48] Hi... I am trying to do a 'apt dist-upgrade' .... docker.io isn't installing correctly ... I get the error message "mv: cannot stat '/var/lib/docker.migrating/*': No such file or directory" ... how do get this fixed up? [03:52] neildugan: Start at the beginning - show the channel in a pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' so we know that state of the package manager. [03:54] Bashing-om, see https://pastebin.com/yQTqTrDD for the print out from the 'apt dist-upgrade' [03:56] neildugan: here's a workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/docker.io/+bug/1882942 [03:56] Launchpad bug 1882942 in docker.io (Ubuntu) "mv: cannot stat '/var/lib/docker.migrating/*': No such file or directory" [High, Fix Released] [03:59] ok ... so if this is fixed ... how come it still seems to be a problem? [04:01] I'm not sure if it's fixed. bug is still "open" [04:03] well the workaround does work... that is something :-) [04:05] the status of the bug is 'Fix Released' ... I don't know if this means the fix is actually applied or not. [04:06] boris, thanks for the help... the update has completed successfully. [04:08] in "infocmp -L1" output, which key refers to "ESC" key on keyboard? [04:08] neildugan: np === ivo_cavalcante is now known as IvoCavalcante === IvoCavalcante is now known as Dante === Dante is now known as Dantinho === Dantinho is now known as ivo_cavalcante [04:47] I have 2 nvme drives in my system, main one is Win10, how do I force ubuntu not to install grub to the windows10 EFI Partition and instead install it on the second nvme EFI partition? === Dekkie is now known as Dekkard [05:25] Thete: use the manual partitioner [05:25] !ping [05:25] pong! [05:33] EriC^^: I did just now, still installed grub to win10 efi partition I think [05:33] it's aight === dareuun is now known as oddsman [05:34] Thete: ok [05:34] the way I usually end up doin this is pulling the drives, leaving just ubuntu drive installed and doing clean install, then plug windows one back in [05:35] and then I just get disk images of it and not worry about it again === oddsman is now known as dareuun === ivo_cavalcante is now known as IvoCavalcante [05:39] Thete: in the partitioner did you create an efi partition, and select it as the efi partition instead of the windows one? at the bottom there's also bootloader location === IvoCavalcante is now known as ivo_cavalcante === ivo_cavalcante is now known as IvoCavalcante [06:12] EriC^^: I did [06:13] it installed fine, it just put Ubuntu/blah.efi on the win10 efi partition anyways === IvoCavalcante is now known as ivo_cavalcante [06:13] ah, odd [06:15] it's no biggie, I might be doing something wrong still [06:16] I created 512MB efi on /dev/sdb [06:16] then rest of space / on /dev/sdb [06:16] told it to install bootloader to /dev/sdb === IvoCavalcante is now known as ivo_cavalcante === ivo_cavalcante is now known as Dantinho [06:17] Thete: i think by default it'll choose the current efi as efi partitioner, maybe you had to select it and remove 'efi' flag from it, and only leave it for the one you created on sdb, just guessing [06:17] *as efi in the partitioner [06:17] ahh that might be why === Dantinho is now known as IvoCavalcante === Wotac_ is now known as Wotac === calcmandan_ is now known as calcmandan [07:03] Hello everyone. [07:03] Could some one please help me with this issue: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2462882 [07:05] I thought they changed to pipewire? [07:05] Did they?! I wish! [07:06] I'm running 20.10 [07:06] Does pipewire support PA based applications?! [07:27] Thete: they changed to pipwire from 21.04 onward [07:28] *pipewire [07:30] But I'm running 20.10? [07:30] no luck? [07:32] you'll need to upgrade to 21.04 anyway before 21.10 comes out if you want to stay supported [07:32] You might also consider rewriting your post and or editing it. Ending your post with "works perfecting" could give the reader the impression you've solved your own issue with steps preceeding "works perfectly" [07:32] Is that the answer to my problem ThinkT510? [07:33] tatertots: but ALSA does work perfectly. I can record with arecord while pulse is not running. [07:34] OK I edited that line. [07:35] it was kind of vague. Good now? [07:36] whatever audio problem you're having, it's because of pulse [07:37] if "perfection" has truly been obtained, there is no justification or warrant for further actions/considerations...use the term "perfect" with caution === gordonjc1 is now known as gordonjcp [07:40] tatertots: are you fooling around with me? :D [07:41] you have ignored the if condition preceding it: "Without PA..." [07:41] anyways, kindly, what are my options besides upgrading to the new release? [07:45] @kedar_apte - u there [07:45] hey [07:46] sentiment: you need to kill pulse before you do *anything* with sound in most Linuxes these days [07:46] sentiment: I don't know what it's intended to be for but it just totally stops sound working [07:46] were you able to figure out the temp issue with your AMD? [07:46] pulseaudio, systemd and indeed Lennart need to all die in a metal chloride fire [07:47] yes [07:47] will PM you with details [07:47] it is an intereting find [07:57] gordonjcp: but it's working otherwise. [07:57] just the recording part is messed up. [07:58] yup [07:58] that's just how pulse works [08:00] MPV missing window border and doesn't prevent screen turning off, when installing Ubuntu 21.04 minimal desktop. But worked normally on Ubuntu 21.04 Live desktop. Anyway to fix MPV issue? [08:02] Not sure why it would work on Live, but not correctly on Full Install. [08:02] So it seems unlikely that I'll get an answer on how to fix pulse. So is it possible to use pipewire on 20.10 such it 'It just works"? [08:02] or are there caveats? [08:07] sentiment: pipewire looks more or less like jack [08:07] sentiment: with various bits of the kxstudio tools strapped to it [08:08] sentiment: why not just go with 21.04 and get pipewire OOTB.... [08:15] Mekaneck: because it feels an overkill solution. No? [08:15] *feels like [08:15] fiddling around not? [08:16] if I know the stuff, certainly not. [08:16] which is why I came here. [08:16] wasting time to get it working is imho, but it's up to you [08:17] that's one point of view and that's okay. However I believe it's a simple line of config that I'm unaware of. [08:18] I'd wait a couple of hours anyways, as I've already been waiting for +24 hours. [08:29] hi all, happy Sunday... only to check new configuration...on libera [08:36] gigamo: then please check your new config in libera, this is a support channel, thanks in advance ;) [08:36] #libera that is [08:37] gigamo: sorry wrong nick [08:37] gigirock: ^^ [08:39] Mekaneck: are you talking for my configuration about libera ? [08:39] yep [08:40] Mekaneck: i'm register at libera as usual and I'm using ssl connection, whatelse ? [08:41] there's no need to put it here and it's offtopic [08:41] Mekaneck: ahhh I'm sorry . will never happen again [08:41] ;) === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka === lu is now known as honk === honk is now known as lu === Dark__ is now known as AaronFarias === lowphi_ is now known as lowphi [10:53] hey I have gnome-builder installed in flatpack [10:53] it say's I'm missing zeitgeist-2.0 which is installed via system [10:53] ubuntu 18.04 [10:54] type apt-cache search zeitgeist [10:54] tnx [10:54] Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/dfc3c17d42ce82a57d2c067037c13066/pasted.txt [10:55] I think I have it [10:55] it's not exactly called like that [10:55] thought [10:55] what's it call? [10:56] meson.build:58:0: ERROR: Native dependency 'zeitgeist-2.0' not found [10:56] there is no such thing actually [10:56] look at this [10:56] libzeitgeist-2.0-0 - library to access Zeitgeist - shared library [10:56] yeah [10:56] libzeitgeist-2.0-dev [10:56] so if I have it [10:57] do you have them install? [10:57] yeah that was output on system [10:57] those are the output of the packages but it doesn't really mean if they're install until you do sudo apt-get install packagename [10:58] yeah they are installed [10:58] apt-cache search it means you are searching for a package name or a desc [10:58] try verifying one by one ;) [10:58] libzeitgeist-2.0-0 is already the newest version (1.0-0.1ubuntu1). [10:58] there a bunch of libraries [10:59] and I am sure you are missing one of them... [10:59] zeitgeist is already the newest version (1.0-0.1ubuntu1). [10:59] if you need kwirc support ask them directly. [10:59] #kwirc [10:59] I think apt search finds all of them, btw I wrote to install zeitgeist-2.0 and it gave me those [11:00] like I said ask them directly to kiwiirc or install them one by one [11:01] all the libs that apt-cache search give you === aradesh1 is now known as aradesh [11:16] Determining dependency 'zeitgeist-2.0' with pkg-config executable '/usr/bin/pkg-config' [11:16] meson.build:58:0: ERROR: Native dependency 'zeitgeist-2.0' not found [11:18] Ronalds_Mazitis_, read this https://askubuntu.com/questions/994827/why-is-zeitgeist-daemon-still-in-exitstance-how-to-remove-the-database [11:19] everythings fine with it [11:19] I have filesearch thing [11:20] otherwise nautilus would not search [11:20] or catfish [11:20] if everything is fine with it... then you wouldn't be here asking for them? [11:20] because gnome-builder says it's not there [11:20] those are missing libraries [11:20] then report some type of bug [11:20] with logs [11:20] Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/72bb70336ff0c3a1a3a11abdc38c4c74/pasted.txt [11:21] Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/bb80c4b9ceab6068af01b33c9768c739/pasted.txt [11:26] Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/6cf9922546fd4d0e9afbdc4e8a7f9460/pasted.txt [11:26] last one is funny [11:26] compiler does create exe in ubuntu\ [11:26] :D [11:26] what are you trying to compiled? [11:26] and run? [11:27] gnome-builder build output [11:27] wanna become part of this, it's easy [11:27] https://builder.readthedocs.io/en/latest/installation.html [11:28] imagine being cooler and pushing your own features trough c code [11:28] which is actually easy stuff [11:30] well I'm compiling nautilus 3.26 [11:30] for ubuntu 18.04 === greyblue9_ is now known as greyblue9 [11:31] https://lazka.github.io/pgi-docs/Zeitgeist-2.0/index.html [11:32] gir1.2-zeitgeist-2.0:amd64 1.0-0.1ubuntu1 [11:32] instead of compiling do apt-get install nautilus [11:32] I have nautilus installed [11:32] I need to modify it [11:32] I have modified thunar before [11:32] for my own use [11:32] of course [11:33] not some stuff I will push to mainstream [11:33] then read then README and the INSTALL [11:33] and take it from there. [11:34] dude gnome builder gets the right version from actual repo [11:34] and does the thing [11:34] and it is only way to not mess up the system according to #gnome [11:34] https://app.element.io/#/room/#newcomers:gnome.org === Acts10-13_ is now known as Acts10-13 === tim_ is now known as bonhoeffer [11:38] when i do dist-upgrade i'm still at 18.04 [11:39] bonhoeffer, what would you expect dist-upgrade to do else ? [11:39] (it just upgrades your installed packages) [11:40] ok, thanks [11:40] bonhoeffer, do-release-upgrade will upgrade you to a new release [11:40] upgrade upgrades your packages; dist-upgrade upgrades your packages that also pull in new dependencies [11:43] bonhoeffer: there are many tutorials out there on how to upgrade from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS ;) [11:43] yeah -- looking at one now -- thanks for the nudge [11:44] :) === davegarath_ is now known as davegarath === A_D is now known as A_Dragon [12:44] Hi all, someone can tell me why I can't see xchat in system tray on ubuntu 20.04 ? [12:48] davegarath: xchat hasn't been developed anymore, it's dead, use hexchat instead [12:48] ok [12:57] <|macallan|> testing gnome instead of kde for a change. One thing I can't seem to figure out yet is the workspaces. in KDE you got the virtual desktops/workspaces on the top bar to easily "click switch" between them. can I get this with gnome as well? [12:58] |macallan|: they are dynamic. new ones open as you need them. go to activities and you'll see them on the right [12:59] |macallan|: try searching for a extension: https://extensions.gnome.org/ [13:00] the default behaviour is that a new empty workspace is generated when the current workspace has an app open on it [13:01] <|macallan|> yeah saw it now, thanks :) [13:07] <|macallan|> hmm one more thing, can you make apps show on all workspaces? I have teams/slack on a vertical monitor beside my main one. I'd like to have them showing there even if I on my main monitor switch to different workspaces [13:09] <|macallan|> ah nm found it, "workspace on main monitor only" [15:20] reetings. I bought a laptop with win 10 i installed and I immediately removed it and install linux as usual. Now when I boot, I can't get straight to linux without going to the bios boot menu into a maze of options before I can finally boot. Is there ny way to bypass all this efi stuff and get straight to grub? [15:20] Hi, my system just tried to install an update to the Logitech Unifying Receiver, which failed, and now I can't use my mouse. The error message given is: Unable to update "Logitech Unifying Receiver": failed to erase all pages: invalid command response of c0, expected d0 [15:21] This update was attempted through the ubuntu software GUI app, which I've had nothing but problems with. Seriously considering going back to Arch [15:21] Can anyone help me get my mouse working again? If not, I'm done with Ubuntu, I don't know how people tolerate it === MidnightLantern is now known as Midnite [15:31] Midnite: what kind of update? that doesn't sound like regular softwre. [15:31] this would be fwupd [15:32] well it's an update for USB firmware/driver for a mouse wireless adapter. [15:33] Midnite, there's a snap version of fwupd (that might fix your issue), but i can't tewll for sure [15:33] Hi! I'm using a Mac keyboard. I use cmd-tab to cycle through applications. This morning I hit cmd by itself. It shrunk my windows and put a big X in the upper right. It used to be that I'd hit cmd again and it would go back, but now it's not! It's not accepting any keystrokes, and all I can do is close windows! Is there any way to get out of this mode? [15:33] That was after a reboot. [15:33] I've been mucking around with my network settings, but nothing (I think) that would have caused this to change. [15:34] I don't even know how else to describe this to google for a solution. [15:35] I can't actually click on my Firefox window, just the outer window Gnome put around it. [15:36] Midnite: which ubuntu release are you running? [15:36] I was typing before so the keyboard works. [15:36] I'm running 21.04 with the latest updates. [15:38] tomreyn: 20.04.2 [15:40] If I click on settings it opens it next to Firefox, but they're both in a mode where I can't actually interact with them and all I can do with it is close it. [15:41] I can move the mouse back and forth and it highlights each window (firefox or setttings) but otherwise won't let me interact with them. Clicking Escape or Enter (or any other key I've tried) has no effect. [15:45] So I take it no one's ever seen this happen before? [15:45] waltman, maybe a screenshot might help ... [15:47] Sure, but I'm not sure how I can take a screenshot with the limited ability I currently have to interact with it. [15:47] I think all I can do is take a photo of it. [15:47] waltman, don't you have a print screen key shortcut ? [15:48] It doesn't seem to be responding to any keypresses. [15:49] https://share.icloud.com/photos/0PNvpItoG6M5xo7JF17Ulk45w [15:51] I'm going to restart on the off chance the network issues were causing this. [15:53] sorry, I didn't realize irssi was on the same box I was rebooting [15:53] Walex2, looks like a work space mess [15:55] Yep, after rebooting it happened again. All I need to do is press and release the Command key and it puts me into a state where I'm completely stuck. [15:57] It should be able to select one of the windows, but it's not letting me. [15:59] Once I'm in this state I can cmd-, alt-, or ctrl-tab between windows (moving the big X between them) but I can't get out of this mode. [15:59] tried with ESC? (just guessing) [15:59] Of course. [16:00] can anyone help me i have a bind9 dns server on ubuntu with some internal dns stuff and a forwarder to a public DNS and sometimes my ubuntu just doesnt take the internal stuff wouldnt work [16:00] This has basically made my workstation unusable. [16:00] but after i restart my laptop with ubuntu it can querry the internal stuff for a while [16:00] Is there anywhere else I could try to get help for this? [16:01] Midnite: the snap was already suggested. and while https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/issues/155 doesn't discuss the very same issue, the same solution (use fwupd 1.6.0 or newer) may apply. [16:01] Issue 155 in fwupd/fwupd "Unifying Receiver Fails to Update" [Closed] [16:02] Midnite: also try a different usb port / connector if it keeps failing like this. and show a full log. [16:02] waltman, does this match your scenario? https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/workspace-switcher-graphic-gets-stuck-on-screen-in-18-10/1702 [16:03] bigpod: hardly enough info. maybe try #ubuntu-server with this [16:04] entuland: No. I don't get to that screen. Though I did just discover that I can do ctrl-alt-up and down to switch between virtual desktops. [16:04] found this other hit as well: [16:05] I wasn't sure about your desktop manager, had to scroll up to see [16:06] entuland: Thanks, that's exactly what's happening with me. [16:07] yw, see if there is anything useful there, seems like they could at least mitigate the issue [16:07] Gnome has been a hot mess for me going back to changes introduced in 20.10. [16:08] Simple updates causing X to crash or syslog fill with errors. [16:08] naughty gnomes, that's why santa didn't accept them as elves [16:09] What's the extensions panel? [16:09] Also, what's manjaro? [16:10] I mean, I'm going to have to reboot just to try it. [16:12] waltman I don't think it matters the kernel there, seems like it's gnome 40 doing that with some apps that don't cooperate === tim_ is now known as bonhoeffer [16:18] dd [16:18] err nvm [16:20] hey, no shame in dd'ing [16:23] Do you know how to switch layout managers in ubuntu? [16:26] I disabled one of my extensions. I disabled my "Window Action Key", which had been the left command key.. Then I clicked it and it got me back into this mode and now I have to reboot again. [16:38] Hello and good evening everyone. [16:39] Could you please help me with this issue? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2462882 [16:39] It sounds like a weird one that noone has been able to address since yesterday. [16:41] sentiment: there's no way to do it, pulseaudio is designed to stop you using sound for anything useful [16:42] sentiment: unfortunately every distro apart from maybe Alpine is infected with pulseaudio and systemd [16:43] sentiment: because pulseaudio expects everything to be routed through it. [16:46] I've just managed to install Ubuntu 20.05 on a Dell XPS 15 9500 and the wifi interface doesn't work yet. I read that the new kernel version might fix that but I have no mean to connect the laptop to the Internet right now. Is there an easy way I can get a package and all its dependencies onto a USB drive, to manually install them? Talking about linux-oem-20.04b more specifically. [16:46] braewoods: but I can play audio just fine. [16:46] and I was able to record as well. [16:46] *Ubuntu 20.04, that is. [16:47] kvn: it's one of those thin and light models with no ethernet? [16:47] I'm not entirely sure what I tweaked but I got things working. I think maybe I can click "Activities" in the upper left of the screen to get out of it. [16:47] thanks for everyone who helped! [16:48] braewoods: that's right. Super nice but proving to be a pain for Ubuntu so far. :) [16:48] kvn: this is why i keep usb ethernet handy [16:49] you're missing wifi drivers. did you install the latest pont release? [16:49] point* [16:49] 20.04.3 [16:49] I could very well get one of those, but I was wondering if going through the hassle of manually installing each and every one of the dependecnies for linux-oem-20.04b would be worth it. [16:49] I downloaded the 20.04 iso from the official website today, so I guess yes? [16:50] I'm trying to delete a couple of files in a folder and kept getting Read-only file system so I tried sudo chgrp -hR nunya /snap/mari0/6/mari0/graphics/ That didn't work. Still same message. Can anyone help? [16:50] kvn: lsb_release -d [16:50] kvn: that'll tell you [16:50] 20.04.2 [16:51] nunya, you cn not delete content of snap packages ... they are like CDroms (squashfs filesystems) and only get mounted [16:51] kvn: i'd try with 20.04.3 [16:52] oh [16:52] weird thought it wasreleased [16:53] kvn: what kernel? try uname [16:53] -a [16:53] braewoods: Linux [16:53] uname -a [16:53] 5.8.0-43-generic [16:54] ok... [16:54] Where can one find 20.04.3? It's nowhere to be found here: https://releases.ubuntu.com/ [16:54] Or maybe just 21.04? [16:55] it's not released yet [16:55] But that might very well open a whole new can of worms. [16:55] kvn: looks like it expects network access to fix this problem [16:55] kvn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule ... the question is not where but when ;) ... in august [16:56] you have the HWE kernel [16:56] ogra: oh nice, thanks for that link [16:56] you can try downloading the OEM kernel offline but... [16:57] updates are normally done over the network [16:57] I did that, but it requires other dependencies, which in turn require others. [16:57] yea, that's exactly why. [16:57] it's hard to know which ones to grab. [16:58] it's probably easiest to use usb ethernet temporarily [16:58] or phone tethering [16:58] or similar [16:58] usb phone tethering should work even with no wifi [16:58] I was wondering if a tool existed to kinda fetch all the required dependencies recursively, for a manual install. [16:58] ogra: I hate the startup logo of Mari0 and try to change it because it's grotesque. There must be a way to change folder permissions and ownership. [16:58] maybe but i don't know it [16:58] kvn: +1 for usb ethernet [16:59] Oh the USB phone tethering could be a solution! Thanks I'll try that. [17:00] IvoCavalcante: I'd have done that straightaway but I'm away from home for another week (: [17:00] kvn: Do you know what wifi it has? [17:00] How do I get hexchat to automaticallyjoin this network and channel on startup? [17:00] kvn: I see; USB tethering might help [17:00] nunya: right click on the #ubuntu tab at bottom and choose auto join [17:02] jeremy31: I believe Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 [17:02] jeremy31: That doesn't seem to be an option. [17:03] nunya: did you get here by clicking a link like ircs://irc.libera.chat [17:04] kvn: That one might need the 5.8 kernel or newer, it kind of depends on the PCI IDs [17:04] jeremy31: Yes. [17:05] nunya: you are going to have to add the Libera.chat to the hexchat server list, I think CTRL + s will bring that up [17:06] jeremy31, howto for libera/hexchat https://askubuntu.com/questions/1339682/how-do-i-connect-to-libera-chat-with-hexchat [17:06] add the name, replace newserver/6667 with irc.libera.chat/6667 [17:06] oerheks: good, I did mine manually [17:08] oerheks: I believe port is 6697 for TLS connection [17:08] or 7070 [17:08] IvoCavalcante, sure, you want TSL, no? [17:09] oerheks: yeah, just correctiong a type - you wrote 6667 [17:09] :) [17:09] no, port is correct [17:10] 6667 is for plain text [17:10] https://libera.chat/guides/connect [17:12] ok I think that worked [17:17] Thanks got Hexchat to auto join this channel [17:17] :-) [17:18] are all Ubuntu channels already here on Libera? [17:18] I can't see topic info for #ubuntu-arm, for instance [17:19] channels are there, maybe topic is not set yet [17:19] hum; ok, then [17:19] wasn't sure they're already "fully migrated" [17:19] being active on Freenode still [17:20] oerheks: some haven't been claimed yet or no one has been asigned to the channel [17:21] on the other hand, this is offtopic chatter IvoCavalcante ;) [17:21] yeah, sorry [17:21] :) [17:21] :) [17:22] IvoCavalcante, oh, thanks for pointing that out ... i think -arm was missed during registration [17:22] ogra: NP ! :) [17:23] since we're on this still, same holds true for #ubuntu-discuss [17:23] now, to be on-topic: when is xorg hwe meant to land on 20.04 ? [17:24] hwe is already there [17:24] !hwe [17:24] The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [17:24] for 20.04 ? [17:24] go2Sesame2 [17:24] I can only 18.04 HWE [17:25] what is your current kernel? [17:25] Am I missing something? [17:25] 5.8 (HWE, I know) [17:25] asking for Xorg hwe [17:26] they you have it already, fresh install after 20.04.1 probably [17:28] then I may have missed something, because kernel hwe comes from package linux-generic-hwe-20.04 [17:28] as for xorg, there's only xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04 , not xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04 for instance [17:28] thought it was going to be one [17:44] don't believe xorg or any of the graphic stack are part of hwe any more [17:45] yes it is [17:45] just read that wiki, if you do a fresh install, or upgrade with 20.04.1, you already have HWE enabled [17:46] not as a seperate package [17:46] well metapackage [18:00] hi all [18:00] im installing program from ppa but it is says no module named orca.speech how can i install this module? [18:04] "apt install orca" doesn't work? [18:05] I wouldn't try this btw. [18:06] you mean cause I borked the command? Probably I used "sudo apt-get install " [18:07] No, because installing and all of its dependencies likely won't help anyway. [18:07] oh okay === nEJC is now known as mr_nejc [18:09] apt install orca is working [18:10] mportError: cannot import name 'debug' from 'orca' (/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/orca/__init__.py) [18:13] Huh ok, I was thrown off by the fact the package name doesn't start with "python3-" as usual, but apparently the required module is indeed in it.. [18:13] neon: at this point I think you need to seek support from the PPA owner [18:19] evening [18:20] thanks :) [18:32] braewoods, IvoCavalcante, jeremy31: didn't manage to make USB tethering work, but installing 21.04 fixed the issue. Thanks for the help earlier! [18:34] kvn: good to hear. fixes would eventually land on 20.04 through HWE, but you need it now [18:34] :) [18:35] Yeah, no Internet access was a bit of a blocker. I'm just glad 21.04 seems to work fine, you never know so close after the release date. [18:48] Ubuntu tried and failed to update a driver for my wireless Logitech mouse, and now my mouse is fucking bricked. I am NOT happy. Who the hell do I contact about this bullshit? [18:49] It doesn't even work in Windows now! [18:50] you can't brick a mouse from a driver, if it doesn't work in windows either, I'd start trouble shooting the mouse or the usb slot you have the wireless plugged into [18:50] Hi folks, I am wondering why vagrant images for ubuntu focal require 40G of allocated disk space. This seems quite wasteful, I was running my VMs on a generous 25G and noticed that my resize failed refusing to shrink the volume. One can do a lot with Ubuntu without even hitting the 5G mark, i would reckon. [18:50] MidnightLantern: mind the language please [18:51] Literally the ONLY thing that has changed ecormier is that Ubuntu tried and failed to update the driver for the mouse. I have tried every port on my computer. [18:51] So I highly doubt you are correct here [18:51] MidnightLantern: batteries? [18:51] MidnightLantern: Replace the battery, there is Windows software that can check the pairing status of the dongle [18:51] Windows doesn't even recognize the mouse's wireless dongle as a Logitech receiver anymore [18:52] I don't think replacing the batteries will fix that! [18:52] the driver isn't installed on the mouse...... [18:52]