[00:20] <OvenWerks> Gruncle: have you tried using muon?
[00:20]  * OvenWerks gave up on "software" (the gnome sw installer long ago)
[00:27] <Gruncle> I just tried sudo apt-get update
[00:27] <Gruncle> sudo apt-get install muon
[00:27] <OvenWerks> I thought studio came with muon
[00:28] <Gruncle> Got errors for both. 'unable to locate package muon was the last error'
[00:28] <OvenWerks> But then I have studio on top of kubuntu 20.04
[00:29] <Gruncle> I have ubuntu studio 18.10.
[00:29] <OvenWerks> That sounds like  the package source is set wrong
[00:29] <OvenWerks> Ah, so xfce
[00:29] <OvenWerks> you would prefer synaptic then
[00:30] <OvenWerks>  but first you need to get the sw sources set up right
[00:33] <Gruncle> Package 'synaptic' has no installation candidate
[00:34] <OvenWerks> yeah if the sources are not right that would make sense
[00:36] <OvenWerks> Gruncle: in the settings manager there should be a software&updates icon
[00:37] <Gruncle> I'm there. Where do I find the APT of the respository?
[00:38] <Eickmeyer[m]> Uh... the other problem here is that 18.10 went EOL in July 2019.
[00:38] <OvenWerks> I am trying to find it with Google... I don't remember which tab even
[00:39] <OvenWerks> Ah... right even though it is the last one that has 32 bit
[00:39] <Eickmeyer[m]> It's not worth the trouble. Gruncle , the oldest supported release is 20.04. You need to clean-install to that. You could go another route, but it would take hours more.
[00:39] <Gruncle> Does EOL mean that it shouldn't work at all?
[00:40] <OvenWerks> no it means you can't add software
[00:40] <Eickmeyer[m]> EOL means End-Of-Life. Repository was taken offline. It's gone.
[00:41] <Gruncle>  What would you recommend for using on older hardware?
[00:41] <Eickmeyer[m]> Gruncle: Ubuntu Studio's purpose is not to work on older hardware. It's strictly for high-performance machines.
[00:42] <OvenWerks> debian buster seems to be easiest
[00:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> Rather, it's not meant to revive older hardware.
[00:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> !eol
[00:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> OH, bot's not here yet.
[00:42] <OvenWerks> :)
[00:49] <krytarik> Eickmeyer[m]: Huh, I'll go request it!.. >_>
[00:49] <Eickmeyer> krytarik: Haha
[00:50] <krytarik> lol
[00:57] <krytarik> Huh, turns out I can actually do it myself - faintly remembered so from the last time and just tried it now.. >_<
[00:59] <Eickmeyer> oof
[12:01] <taj[m]> for older hardware, I think you're probably best off, in the ubuntu family at least with lubuntu at this point
[12:01] <taj[m]> it's probably the most light weight