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| bittin | KDE Hackday at https://foss-north.se/2021/ today for the last day | 04:19 |
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| silver_hook | Is LTS supported for 5 or 3 years? The wikipedia article on Kubuntu seems to have conflicting info in text vs table. | 11:43 |
| remline | silver_hook: I find the situation a bit confusing, too. My understanding is -- the "base" Ubuntu packages are supported for five years, while the Kubuntu-specific "universe" packages are supported by the Kubuntu community for three years. | 11:50 |
| Mekaneck | silver_hook: Kubuntu LTS is only supported for 3 years | 11:51 |
| Mekaneck | Main Ubuntu LTS 5 years, all other LTS flavours 3 years | 11:52 |
| remline | Mekaneck: And yet, presumably Kubuntu LTS gets kernel updates for five years? | 11:53 |
| silver_hook | That, kinda(?) makes sense? | 11:53 |
| alkisg | silver_hook: run: ubuntu-security-status | 11:53 |
| silver_hook | alkisg: Thanks :) | 12:05 |
| remline | "1726 packages installed, of which: 1260 receive package updates until 1/2022". So what is the status of the non-"receive updates" packages? | 12:13 |
| Mamarok | remline: likely third-party, aka not Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Plasma made | 12:20 |
| Mamarok | e.g. Libreoffice or the like | 12:20 |
| remline | Mamarok: That could be. However, I have seen Libreoffice get updates, e.g., "libreoffice (1:7.1.3-0ubuntu0.21.04.1) hirsute" on 7 May 2021. | 12:22 |
| remline | And ubuntu-security-status --thirdparty reveals "You have no packages installed from a third party." | 12:23 |
| Mamarok | remline: that was a guess, since I have no idea what you ahve installed on your system :-) | 12:24 |
| remline | Mamarok: They are all packages from the hirsute archives, except for "dropbox". | 12:26 |
| remline | Running an unmodified Kubuntu live system, I see "1973 packages installed; 1281 receive package updates until 1/2022". That leaves 692 packages which supposedly don't receive updates...? | 12:33 |
| remline | "apt list '~suniverse ~i' | wc" reveals that the "unsupported" packages listed by ubuntu-security-status are simply the packages in the universe section. This implies, in a sense, that KDE packages are unsupported from day one. | 12:51 |
| Mamarok | remline: unsupported by Ubuntu doesn't mean unsupported at all | 13:14 |
| remline | Mamarok: Agreed, but it does mean that the 5-year vs. 3-year LTS support terms are... confusing to the user. | 13:18 |
| alkisg | remline: hirsuite isn't LTS. The 3/5 years of support are for LTS editions | 15:05 |
| alkisg | In a MATE 20.04 that I have open: ubuntu-security-status => 3334 packages installed, of which: \n 2145 receive package updates with LTS until 4/2025 \n 1135 could receive security updates with ESM Apps until 4/2030 | 15:06 |
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| Mamarok | remline: 5 years is for servers or base systems in LTS, 3 years for LTS in general, everything else is the normal support. And yes, Hirsute is not lTS anyway, so not covered | 15:40 |
| Mamarok | and servers means not desktop related, so all things GUI would be 3 years in an LTS | 15:41 |
| Mamarok | see also https://ubuntu.com/blog/what-is-an-ubuntu-lts-release et al. | 15:43 |
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| mparillo | !lts | 21:03 |
| ubottu | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Focal (Focal Fossa 20.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. | 21:03 |
| michael | hello | 21:39 |
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