[00:47] Anyone have ideas how to turn off touchpad scrolling for gnome terminal? I'm constantly triggering it while typing causing my cursor to jump around emacs. [00:58] Diagon: look around for 'palm detection', I think that does the trick [00:58] sarnold - will do, thanks. === Pony is now known as Guest3496 [01:33] I somewhat belatedly upgraded from 18.04 to 20.04 today. All looks good EXCEPT torsocks no longer seems to work except as root. I don;'t really even know what to ask, so HELP Please! [01:35] jpmh: what error messages do you get when using it as a user? [01:39] sarnold: I get a buch of: 1622770748 WARNING torsocks[23439]: [syscall] Unsupported syscall number 39. Denying the call (in tsocks_syscall() at syscall.c:605) [01:39] $ ausyscall 39 [01:39] getpid [01:40] if that's an amd64 system, anyway.. [01:41] sarnold: it is an Intel 64 bit machine, but I don't understand what you are telling me or asking me to do [01:41] jpmh: nothing, really, just information about what 39 means [01:41] sarnold: I do not have a proram ausyscall though [01:45] jpmh: that's fine, it'll give you the same results it gave me, since you're on an amd64 machine [01:46] jpmh: does it work if you try other programs? [01:46] sarnold: so, what now? [01:50] jpmh: hah, it looks like they switched from denying all unwrapped syscalls to allowing all unwrapped syscalls a few months ago https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/torsocks/-/merge_requests/2/diffs [01:50] Merge 2 in tpo/core/torsocks "Default-allow syscalls" [Merged] [01:51] sarnold: heading to that reference now - thank you [01:51] jpmh: the sad news is, it probalby means you'll need to rebuild the package to make it work :/ [01:52] sarnold: YUCK. It is this typeof thing that is causing us to move from Ubuntu to Debian - TY [01:54] jpmh: have they fixed it already? I wonder if that'd make it easier to get the fix in ubuntu, too [01:57] sarnold: realistically we use it SO RARELY that it is not a disaster. Each coffee shop that has our software is accessible by us using torsocks if in a disaster we can notconnect through our regular open ssh tunnel. We really do not need tor as the method. We just want a second, independent method and tor is that [01:58] * genii 's ears perk up momentarily at the mention of coffe === M4he is now known as mahe [02:02] genii: we have systems in a little over 1200 coffee shops -so coffee has sort of lost its excitement to me [02:06] buuuuut coffeeee! :) [02:11] being a supplier to coffee shops I now drink tea instead and Israeli coffee at home [02:21] jpmh: lol [02:21] course tea's pretty good too, so that makes sense [02:25] tea? Why would you drink leaves when you could drink BEANS [02:25] =P [02:28] matsaman: indeed - I do use loose leaf tea and do not filter/strain and when I make my coffee at home the grounds are at the bottom of the cup too. How else can people read my fortune? [02:29] sarnold: wanted to thank you - have kjust re-compiled and fixed torsocks [02:29] heh [02:29] I guess I fixed and then re-compiled atually rather than the reverse order [02:30] lol === genii is now known as genii-core [03:53] is there a way to disable tcpwrapper????? [04:30] My chrumium browser is not starting after last update please help, it seems a snap connection issue. ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS === Juanjose is now known as juanjo [04:41] Asad2k6: snap snaps me TF off of ubuntu [06:52] I'm just trying to learn how to use Podman and I stumbled upon an issue in enabling the dnsname-plugin for the container-network: this CNI-stuff doesn't find it. The plugin is installed, but it's installed in /usr/lib and that's not where this CNI-stuff is looking for the plugins. So, my question is: am I missing some extra steps or has the dnsname-plugin been packaged wrong by the packagers? Yes, I know [06:52] I could just make a symlink in the correct location, but I don't think that should be a required step -- just installing the correct package should allow it to be used straight away. [06:59] I recently created a new AWS instance, and as part of the initialization script upgraded most packages on the system. I suspect apt is stuck somewhere waiting for user input on some package. I have ssh access to the server, but is there any way to gain access to whichever terminal is running the aws initialization script? [08:02] !info reptyr | rustyrocket: possibly you could use this [08:02] rustyrocket: possibly you could use this: reptyr (0.6.2-1.3, hirsute): Tool for moving running programs between ptys. In component universe, is optional. Built by reptyr. Size 22 kB / 66 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armel, armhf.) [08:02] TJ-: Thanks [08:09] hey, I am trying to fix superstition or video camera/slash software caused glitch [08:09] anybody uses kdenlive [08:09] |? [08:10] there is not plenty of people there [08:13] Ronalds_Mazitis_: it's quite early in the morning still [08:13] no in general [08:13] Ronalds_Mazitis_: I used to use kdenlive [08:13] 8 dudes in whole chatroom [08:14] what chatroom? [08:14] I have really deep thoughts about offensive stuff [08:14] are chatrooms even still a thing? [08:14] kdenlive [08:14] #kdenlive [08:14] oh, channel [08:14] okay, what's the issue you're having with kdenlive? [08:15] please don't make this conversation for me to be robot I am barely functioning [08:15] I am trying to fix stain on my pants [08:15] I be real obvious [08:15] in video [08:15] 1)I have plenty of video where I am clean [08:15] apperently [08:16] I don't remember nothing bad happening [08:16] so I consider two things [08:16] superstition or software slash hardware messing with me [08:16] this is more like mental issue now for me [08:17] I don't wish this on anyone [08:17] !support [08:17] The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com [08:17] you haven't actually described your issue with kdenlive [08:17] so [08:17] Ronalds_Mazitis_: did you actually have an ubuntu support question? [08:17] the issue is I can't take interval of colors [08:17] and change them [08:17] gordoncjp [08:18] yeah, I can't find right tool to fix this on ubuntu [08:18] lmo [08:18] lamo [08:18] there is not enough irc channels [08:19] Ronalds_Mazitis_: can we please leave the offtopic chatter out of this support channel? We'd appreciate it a lot. Thanks. [08:19] color selection or key spill mop up ain't really able to fix this [08:19] dude there was freenode I can't connect anymore [08:20] I described my problem in human words cause it's linux for human beings [08:20] Ronalds_Mazitis_: mind listening for once? [08:20] Ronalds_Mazitis_: what are you trying to do? [08:20] Mekaneck, I explained why it is also ubuntu issue [08:21] Ronalds_Mazitis_: also, how much do you know about video editing? [08:21] ffmpeg type stuff [08:21] this sounds like it may be offtopic for #ubuntu, but more down to editing technique [08:21] briefly and only because I'm not in #u-ot and there's very little else happening at 0920 in #ubuntu [08:22] "Key spill" is for cleaning up patches where you've got reflections off a green screen on you [08:22] the real purpose of ubuntu is not just the thing calculating or doing text [08:22] if you are in front of a green screen then it doesn't neatly punch you out necessarily [08:23] well I have to remove gray colors [08:23] the screen is reflecting green light onto you, so if you're holding something shiny it might reflect some green screen and key out, or it might give bright areas like the edges of your face a green colour [08:23] from blue background [08:23] okay, are the grey bits moving? [08:23] relative to the shot? [08:23] yeah [08:23] this is going to be tricky then [08:23] tbh I got rid of kdenlive and went to Davinci Resolve [08:24] it's closed-source but it's Free As In Beer for like 99% of what anyone would use it for [08:24] 200 quid to buy the paid-for version if you want to cut 4k or use really advanced editing [08:24] this is *nothing* [08:25] dudes want money superstition wants money, life wants money, but what chances do they give you [08:25] you even get it free if you buy some of Blackmagic's video equipment, it's bundled with their cameras [08:25] BM really really want folk using DR [08:25] it's what Netflix use! [08:25] Ronalds_Mazitis_: can you post a still of the bit you want to paint out? [08:25] my money is how offended I feel [08:27] sigh [08:27] https://i.ibb.co/xLwzF6x/offended.png [08:27] I swear the things you see on screen are damn tricks [08:28] we are living in future type thing already, they want money, the better produce more food better cloathes etc [08:28] I did everything I could still got offended [08:29] relatively even idiot is genius [08:31] I am not the dude sitting my ass off, I still can't pay for davinci resolve [08:31] I should not be paying for some video tricks they put on me anyway [08:32] Ronalds_Mazitis_: last time, can you take your offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please? Enough is enough. [08:32] #ubuntu for human beings, I am searching for free software options [08:32] you chit chat has nothing to do with ubuntu support [08:33] !ops [08:33] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu [08:33] yeah sorry [08:34] right now, I can't see anybody else having issues with ubuntu [08:34] good job dudes [08:34] Youngsters aren't familiar with IRC, so most of them don't have here looking for help [08:35] I just noticed that virtmanager creates the VM storage qcows as root is that dangerous? [08:35] s/don't have here/don't come here/ [08:35] aiena: no, it's not dangerous [08:36] ok so its better to resize the qcows as root [08:36] well, who ever is running the big tech is putting lot of effort in making a buck out of young folks [08:36] what is qcows? [08:37] A file-format for qemu. [08:37] Specifically, a file-format for qemu disk-images. [08:38] how can that be dangerous [08:38] unless somebody uses root then maybe [08:42] Hey, i have a question regarding the snap devices in dev/loop/.. they are displayed like usb-sticks in the ubuntu ui, which is a little bit annoying because sometimes there are more then 15 of those volumes displayed. Does anyone know why they are displayed there and if i can be turned off somehow? [08:44] Guest3823: they're not supposed to show up. I have no idea what's causing them to show up for you, but I'd start with nuking your entire home-directory and starting from scratch, seeing if that fixes it. [08:44] Hi! So I am trying to install Ubuntu on a machine with 6 disks; an existing ZFS pool already exists on the machine that uses all 6 disks [08:45] when I go ahead with the install though, I see that the installer creates its own pool on one of the disks, and my existing pool is now marked as degraded [08:46] is it possible to get the installer to just install on the existing pool? [08:52] I had just used qemu-img to resize my kvm image file. In the VM I then livebooted using the ubuntu ISO and I get https://paste.opensuse.org/97751546 I am so confused. Image was 10gb bebefore I resized it to 20GB. Now the ext4 partition shows 20gb but unallocated is also 10GB how? [08:53] the guest is an ubuntu vm too but that should not matter. [08:54] aiena: you only resized the disk-image, not the partitions and filesystems inside it. You obviously still have to do that inside the VM itself. [08:54] WereCatf: yes I am trying to do that [08:54] I would have expected the ext4 partition to be 10 gb [08:54] but it is 20 GB see image [08:55] the original qcow img size was 10gb so the partition should have been <10gb [08:57] i am just rebooting the vm without the live boot with no changes to see so confused [08:57] i never resized anything so how the partition is 20GB now [08:58] aiena: Well, your disk-image is also 30GB instead of 20GB, so I assume you did something like 'qemu-img resize filename +20G" instead of 'qemu-image resize filename 20G" [08:58] WereCatf: no my disk image is 20GB it was 10 GB [08:59] but gparted shows it as 20gb + 10gb the qcow is 20GB only [09:00] ait let me check again [09:03] aiena: qemu-img info yourdiskimage.file [09:03] Pretty sure you've just gotten confused at some point and it is actually 30GB [09:04] WereCatf: see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c2bFjcr8gQ/ [09:04] the du-h is the physical size [09:04] the qemu-img size is 32 gb somehow idk how it is possible [09:05] virtumanager made the disk [09:05] how is virtual size 30gb while real size 20gb? [09:06] aiena: that's perfectly normal. Under most modern OSes, it's possible to make a file of a specific size, but it's not actually all allocated on the disk until it's needed. [09:07] WereCatf: it looks like qemu-img also resized my ext4 partition in the vm without me having to use a live iso [09:07] It'll grow to the full 30GB on your disk, if you write full 30GB of data in it, but until then, it'll only be the size of the data inside it [09:07] ah so if I resize beyonf 30gb then I need to use a liveboot to resize the ext54 one as well [09:08] *ext4 [09:11] WereCatf Guest3823 I guess nuking the home directory is a bit harsh :D [09:12] hasdf: If you have a better idea, then go ahead and say it. As I said, I have no idea what setting controls whether those loopback-devices show up or not on the desktop and nuking the home-dir is the quickest way of resetting all the settings to defaults. [09:13] loopback is the network for containers all all newer vertions of ubuntu [09:14] toddc: there are far more loopback-devices than just networking-loopbacks. [09:15] ok I just poped in and hated to have you kill all your container apps [09:16] when I first started with 20.04 and saw those I thought it was a problem [09:16] WereCatf: oops the qemu-img-resize command is increasing the virtual disk size but not the real disk size so it can't save anything more than 10gb [09:17] how to rezie the qcow file? [09:19] i think i understood what is happening [09:20] aiena: what? You already resized the image. Whatever issues you have are on the VM-side. [09:21] yes true [09:21] the vm will not allow me to expand the root partition even in liveboot [09:21] i can repartition unallocated added space as anew parttion from liveboot [09:21] Guest3823: /dev/loop* are 'loopdev' block devices, used by snap one per snap where the snap image files is exposed [09:22] aiena: it's always preferable to use LVM from the install, so when you need to do things like this it is a trivial operation [09:22] TJ-: I am new to vms etc [09:22] aiena: if you've multiple partitions, and you need to expaned #1 when #2 is directly after it, that isn't possible without first moving #2 [09:23] aiena: Are you trying to expand the extended partition or the ext4-partition inside it? You need to expand the extended partition first. [09:23] TJ-: see https://paste.opensuse.org/97751546 image [09:23] WereCatf: oh [09:23] let me see [09:24] launching the liveboot again. [09:25] WereCatf: thank you [09:25] aiena: ah, just seen your gparted image, and it is easy to expand that, although for novices it sounds scary! You record the starting sectors of the logical and extended partitions, then delete them, then recreate the extended at the same starting sector but using all unallocated space, then recreate the logical at the same starting sector and using all available space [09:25] i didn't know I had to expand the expanded partition first [09:26] aiena: just do NOT let gparted do any formatting else it'll wipe what is there. [09:26] and next time better use gpt [09:26] TJ-: that's rubbish [09:26] aiena: they're all just containers, with a 'start' and 'length' in sectors, plus a type [09:26] llutz: its a VM [09:26] WereCatf: I do it almost daily [09:26] aiena: and? [09:27] ah well idk why the vm never used GPT [09:28] aiena: is that VM booting using UEFI? since there is a fat32 file-system first it looks like that may be the EFI-SP (system partition) [09:29] TJ-: I don't know i let virtmanager install ubuntu how it wanted [09:29] aiena: when it comes down to it, those partitions you need to edit are only 16 bytes of data each, containing starting sector, size, type, and flags [09:29] i have pulseaudio tweaks to make the sound latency go away that is all [09:29] aiena: You can check in virt-manager in the info pages [09:30] TJ-: just says virtIO disk [09:30] aiena: Guest > Info > Overview >Firmware will be BIOS or UEFI [09:30] firmware says BIOS [09:31] so guess its non UEFI [09:31] aiena: OK, so that 512MB FAT is weird and likely unused ! [09:31] yes most likely [09:31] on my host also I ended up using non UEFI [09:31] because I had a nightmare with signed drivers [09:32] aiena: Because I prefer using tools that don't surprise me, for what you're doing I'd actually use command-line tools and directly from the host, against the guest image file itself, rather than booting the guest via a LiveISO [09:33] aiena: my reasoning would be that I don't trust gparted to NOT try to format a partition, but having said that, if gparted allows you to first extend the size of the 'extended' partition so it contains free space, then expand the vda5, you /should/ be fine :) - just check the list of actions it intends to perform before allowing it to go ahead! [09:33] hmm what WereCatf said worked. After resizing th extended and then the inner partition i now have 10 gb more free space inside my VM [09:34] TJ-: I do have to ask, why does any of that matter? I helped aiena get their issue sorted and now they know to expand the extended-partition first as well, so I don't see why any of that is relevant. [09:34] WereCatf: knowledge [09:34] TJ-: More like confusing someone less-experienced with an overload of stuff they don't really need at this point. [09:35] TJ-: well gparted would not allow me to resize the inner partition without extended the extended part first so it does one thing right [09:35] people are often scared of what look like complicated processes until they understand what is going on under the hood (in this case simply changing 8 bytes! [09:35] aiena: that is expected of course [09:36] aiena: if you're interested in a wider understanding of the boot process see https://iam.tj/prototype/guides/boot/ [09:36] TJ-: its actually funny [09:36] the 512mb part is used by the VM [09:37] it is mouted to /boot/efi [09:37] aiena: now that is where we'd expect it be for an UEFI boot! [09:37] so the VM is installed with UEFI [09:38] but virtmanager says BIOS [09:38] aiena: no, Ubuntu's installer just creates the boot-partition regardless, unless you do manual partitioning. [09:38] as firmware [09:38] It's still BIOS [09:38] oh ok [09:39] WereCatf: maybe because the host does not use UEFI the guest can't? [09:39] my windows partition uses UEFI the linux one is just BIOS [09:40] so I need to switch to windows in the bios not through GRUB [09:40] aiena: No, that's irrelevant. I mean, it's a virtual machine and whatever firmware is running inside it is also running on virtual hardware -- it's not dependent on the host's firmware. [09:40] oh [09:41] is there a way to make kvm use UEFI firmware is there any benefit? [09:41] aiena: For most things, no, there is no benefit. You'll need UEFI, if you plan on doing PCIe-passthrough, but other than that, it's more a matter of taste. [09:43] Some more esoteric OSes may not be compatible with UEFI, like e.g. I can't remember if OpenWRT can boot on a UEFI-system nowadays or if it still requires BIOS [09:44] That's more of a niche-thing though [09:45] WereCatf: you will need UEFI for pCIE passthrough even when the host does not use it? [09:47] WereCatf: this is an unrelated and not so troublesome problem. I use a graphics tablet in my guest. With spice-vdagent installed in the guest passing through the usb device to the VM used to cause 2 cursors which would fight with each other but wuthout spece-vdagent with a captured mouse the mose tends to not move smmothly but jerkily. [09:49] aiena: I have no idea what's causing that or how to fix. I don't have graphics-tablets or such, nor do I have any need to connect such things to my VMs. Sorry. [09:49] no worries [09:49] it's not too troublesome xD [09:50] if the VMs are just server ssh is enough [09:50] aiena: try and ask on #qemu at irc.oftc.net -- they're far more likely to be of help there. [09:59] i did but like you said it may be very uncommon usecase [09:59] i even tried floating the cursor with xinput in the VM [10:00] but that hardly helped [10:00] Mmkay [10:00] i am guessing the spice cursor has some special mechanism [10:00] what makes it buttery smooth is also what hurts [10:10] well color selection plugin in kdenlive does not do anything [10:10] you select color and nothing happens on slider [10:21] Ronalds_Mazitis_: that might be a bug in kdenlive. THe kdenlive guys usually recommend using the appimage vs ubuntu repo version [10:22] Maybe OT but how do you people install Discord on ubuntu 20.04? After having so much trouble with the snapcrafters release I switched to Canary, and no i have to reinstall it every 3 weeks. [10:22] Square: I don't use snaps [10:22] I just have the tarball in my home directory I made a ~/discord.sh to launch discord [10:23] so I don't need to type full paths [10:23] since it is in my home dir it auto updates too [10:23] so you dont need to reinstall it often like that? [10:23] what does your tarball contain and where did you get it? [10:23] no I have bypassed package management entirely [10:24] download it from the discord website [10:24] extract it in a folder and there is a "discord" executable in there my discord.sh just contais "~.path/to/discord" in side it with the hasbang and I chmod+x'd it [10:25] Square: for software i manage personally i avoid package management if it is unnecessary [10:26] i do the package management for those [10:26] and if things break they are my personal headache but that rarely happens if ever [10:26] ok. Ill try that. Thanks aiena [10:26] * "~/path/to/discord" [10:27] Square: https://discord.com/brand-new/download choose the tar.gz option not the .deb [10:27] weird advice, why not the deb? [10:27] because you don't need root all the time then [10:28] no other reason [10:28] also weird .. [10:28] one needs root only to install. [10:28] and update too [10:28] so? [10:28] nevermind [10:28] you are making statements that does not match ubuntu support. [10:29] yes I don't want ubuntu support for these things [10:29] i mentioned that above [10:29] " and if things break they are my personal headache but that rarely happens if ever" [10:29] even if I compile from source I cannot expect ubuntu support for those things either [10:29] How to downgrade a package? [10:29] Its my fault [10:30] except maybe deps [10:30] I should have pinned it when there was time [10:30] Firefox is notorious for ignoring system update rules and updating surreptitiously on its own [10:30] huh [10:30] only the snap version updates independantly [10:30] aiena, yeah I got the ugly version when I restarted [10:31] and why is an up2date firefox bad? [10:31] I explicitly have disabled apt auto updates for months [10:31] oerheks: they changed the UI [10:31] pikapika: that is strange [10:31] then your FF must be not from apt [10:31] Its the system firefox [10:31] because i needed to upgrade manually [10:31] the one from xubuntu default installation\ [10:31] then you must have allowed it to upgrade with the rest [10:32] This has happened in the past too [10:32] FF ignores system upgrade rules and does its own thing [10:32] ANyways [10:32] How do we downgrade an apt package? [10:32] I'll forcefully pin it this time [10:32] pikapika: well i use gui clients and do manual updates [10:32] i wasnt aware of the gui change [10:32] I don't know how to use gui clients [10:33] it is ugly yes but FF upgrades are more than just UI [10:33] I'd just like to keep it fixed in a slightly older version for a few months [10:33] i never knew thay had made ff ugly though [10:33] so now I am just living with it xD [10:34] not fond of chrome have chromium when i need to separate tasks [10:34] All "ui designers" in the world should be lined up and shot [10:34] but ff is my main driver I hate how my plugin looks now [10:34] pikapika: one plus is that FF now has a consistent UI [10:35] "UI designer" is a paradoxical name. "UI designers" actually make shit worse. [10:35] so going forward they can improve the yukiness quotient consistently across all oses [10:35] pikapika, please tone down [10:35] pikapika: UI designers are not usability designers but still [10:35] every service provider has their value [10:35] design is experimentation and creativity it can fail [10:36] Design is a science and engineering [10:36] Its not "creativity" or "art" [10:36] really engineering is also creativty [10:36] engineering is also art [10:37] Yes but its real creativity [10:37] it may use scientific principles but still [10:37] Not "fake" creativity of dabbling random colors and copying apple's mistakes [10:37] well [10:37] Oh of course I forgot. Modern design is about removing colors and borders. [10:38] idk man [10:38] is there any support issue in this rant? [10:38] How do I downgrade a package? [10:38] remove it, and find the older version [10:39] Ok [10:39] pikapika: i think you can specify a version to install with apt install too [10:39] *apt-get [10:39] I found an askubuntu thread listing that method, yes [10:40] aiena, not sure that can be done for firefox too [10:40] What does firefox do differently? [10:40] oerheks: even I don't know [10:40] i don;t think it's wise to downgrade because other security fixes etc are lost too [10:40] FF is a browser above all but anyway [10:41] to me the redesign isn't so bad just different and it won't bother me soon enough [10:41] i just need to add css to my plugin as the new default styling sucks most websites already use css styling so ... [10:42] What universe do ui designers live in? [10:42] pikapika: take this to chat :P [10:42] chat? [10:43] pikapika: offtopic [10:43] I have deliberately changed icons for maximize, minimize, close to have a thinner window panel, and firefox ruined the hard earned vertical space...and also looks disconnected, borderless and weird [10:43] pikapika: /j #ubuntu-offtopic [10:43] Yes [10:44] aiena: he's there and he should know offtopic banter belongs there ;) [10:44] oh lawl [10:44] Mekaneck, sorry for the argument generated from the auto upgrade [11:50] hey I installed davinci resolve on ubuntu [11:50] but it fails to start [11:50] Failed to load config file "%u".resolve: /home/jenkins/jenkins/workspace/resolve@2/Resolve/Cyclone/Main/AppConfig.cpp:204: void AppConfig::LoadAllSiteInfo(): Assertion `m_SiteEnabledIdx > 0' failed. [11:54] huh why us jenkind up there in a release [11:54] davinci resolve is not in our repos .. [11:54] I installed it as dude suggested here [11:54] I don't even have such username [11:54] yeah you're out of luck there unless someone else has it installed and is aware of how to resolve it [11:55] Ronalds_Mazitis_: it's a more powerful video editor [11:55] needs lots of resources but yeah [11:55] good luck finding support, i see lots of blogs for 16.2 .. and makeresolvedeb https://www.danieltufvesson.com/makeresolvedeb [12:01] Checking for fakeroot...Missing! Sorry, need 'fakeroot' to continue. === p2 is now known as Guest7595 [12:52] Good morning ... I am STILL getting a "Software Updater" window with nothing in it ... I click on "Install Now" and the window blips and comes back the same. I updated on CLI and it is still happening ... Ubuntu 20.04 with all the latest updates ... [13:04] rjwiii: I remember software centre was a snap maybe you need to remove and reinstall [13:04] i use a few buntu's so a bit less in touch with ubuntu [13:08] software centre is a snap but that wouldn't be related to the software updater. [13:14] rjwiii: So does 'apt list ?upgradable' show nothing? [13:17] remline: output: "Listing... Done" [13:37] We don't need war, peace mate! [14:43] Question, if I just successfully reinstalled Ubuntu 20.04.02 LTS, and the PC still shows black screen after a reboot, is it possible that the SSD on the PC is failing? [14:43] is the bios set to boot the right device? [14:44] There is no grub menu. The BIOS is set to boot to the right device. There are no USBs plugged in after installation (and it did warn me to pull the USB out before pressing Enter) [14:44] !nomodeset [14:44] Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there. [14:47] So I've got a 500GB btrfs partition that lives on a disk that is 500GB. I have a 120GB disk I'd like to migrate it to. Anyone got any suggestions for the best approach to do this? I am thinking resize the partition down to as small as I can get it, dding the drive to an image, and then writing the image to the 120gb drive, and then resizing it to [14:47] fill the 120gb drive. [14:49] ThinkT510, there is no grub menu. Repeatedly tapping ESC bears no result. Thus, I can't use the nomodeset parameter trick [14:50] There isn't any terminals running, also. [14:51] I'm really thinking that it's an SSD failure, and not an Ubuntu thing. [14:51] you could boot a liveusb and mount the disk that way to make changes [14:51] oh, right, forgot about the live usb. [14:52] typically booting to a black screen indicates a graphics issue [14:53] black screen with no backlights on = graphics issue? [14:53] Or black screen with backlights on? [14:54] There is a difference. And online resources doesn't explain these two well. [14:56] Hmmm, did a SMART check, and it passed, so I now no longer think it's an SSD issue. [14:58] some systems accept shift, others esc to enter boot menu [14:59] (left shift) [14:59]