[00:15] <tomreyn> domiu: so   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade      return without any warnings or errors, and with no upgrades pending?
[00:36] <domiu> tomreyn, those commands resulted in nothing needing to be done.
[00:36] <domiu> but the upgrade doesn't occur and do-release-upgrade reports 'Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.'
[00:37] <domiu> very pleased otherwise. a few issues tho.
[00:40] <domiu> some of my problems include not being able to install gdm3 because there are held unmet dependencies, gnome-shell gir1 libgdm1 libpam-fprintd
[12:56] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I'm not sure how to triage https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1930398. Please could you tke a look?
[13:52] <cpaelzer> rbasak: done
[13:52] <cpaelzer> we are done (non actionable atm) unless you want to spend time to check if you can reproduce it (I can not) 
[13:58] <rbasak> Thanks! As you might guess I'm not inclined to spend the time, and expect the reporter to provide steps to reproduce.
[14:35] <Peanut> Hi - I'm building a gluster/kvm based server pair. I'm running into the issue that libvirtd isn't able to auto-start VMs, because at that point, it seems that the gluster mount doesn't exist. Gluster is mounted using systemd automount, which should mount it on first access.
[14:36] <Peanut> What would be a feasible approach to ensure that libvirtd doesn't start before the gluster filesystem is mounted?
[14:55] <bumboks> Walex2 booting into GUI mode from the desktop ISO works, I can't see a way to do it with the server ISO
[14:56] <bumboks> how do you use the command line installer?
[14:57] <cpaelzer> Peanut: if you could use a mount unit instead of automount then you could also make it use systemd expressions like Before= 
[15:22] <Peanut> cpaelzer: Thanks, I'm using automount as so far, it's the only reliable way to get /gluster to mount. But a mount unit sounds interesting, too.
[16:18] <rrr> if I needed ffmpeg today, what do I install?
[16:18] <rrr> libav something?
[16:58] <Walex2> bumboks: the command line installer is the same installer with "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text"
[16:59] <Walex2> rrr: the 'ffmpeg' packages have the right dependencies...
[16:59] <bumboks> Walex2 isn't that the same text based installer I took a screenshot of?
[16:59] <Walex2> rrr: 'apt-cache depends ffmpeg'
[17:00] <Walex2> bumboks: the installer has several different modes, the default uses "libncurses", it is full-screen text, not command-line text.
[17:00] <bumboks> gotcha
[17:03]  * Walex2 sighs as in an ideal world people on IRC would actually read the manual page at the link they have been given
[17:08] <bumboks> Walex2 that also gives me "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: text"
[18:05] <rrr> I am getting 'held broken packages' errors now and I somehow managed to remove some components of my desktop.
[18:05] <rrr> I'm not sure, what tripped apt to remove gnome-session and gdm3
[19:07] <Walex2> bumboks: then my guess is that the server installer is really minimal; I always use the desktop installer as I like to have a minimal XFCE desktop and a GUI livecd...
[19:07] <Walex2> rrr: I always recommend to use 'aptitude' so one can review more easily what gets done.
[19:08] <Walex2> rrr: as to your current situation there are two remedial commands
[19:08] <Walex2> rrr: the first is 'dpkg --configure -a' to make sure the installed packages are in a good state.
[19:09] <Walex2> rrr: the second is 'apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-broken'
[19:11] <patdk-lap> and I think server install is huge and use jeos
[19:11] <patdk-lap> I was getting held broken packages also yesterday
[19:12] <patdk-lap> some servers had libc6 at a version higher than libc6-dev, and I couldn't find the correct matching dev on any mirror
[19:12] <patdk-lap> ended up downgrading lic6 to match -dev
[19:14] <Walex2> patdk-lap: sometimes the mirrors have table-of-content files that are not fully updated...
[19:16] <Walex2> rrr: I have written a nice short intro to 'aptitude' for maintaining good package list states: https://sabi.co.uk/blog/13-one.html?130414#130414
[19:17] <patdk-lap> well, it's been over 24hours and it's still broken
[19:18] <patdk-lap> ubuntu 20.04 has a mix of libc6 of 2.31-0ubuntu9.2 and 2.31-0ubuntu9.3
[19:28] <patdk-lap> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1926918
[19:28] <patdk-lap> month old issue :(
[19:33] <Walex2> patdk-lap: it is not a bug issue I would think.
[19:33] <patdk-lap> it's a bug in the way it was handled
[19:33] <Walex2> rrr: BTW first you may want to run 'dpkg -C' to check
[19:33] <patdk-lap> people upgraded to it, then it was removed
[19:34] <patdk-lap> I know a republish seems silly, but if you cannot push downgrades for reverts
[19:36] <Walex2> ah, silly situation, I have seen it happen before.
[19:36] <Walex2> but very rarely.
[20:48] <tomreyn> Walex2 / rrr: I would not recommend aptitude at this time (and for the past few years), see, e.g. bug 1817350