[00:00] <zxmpi> last version of ms office i used regularly was office 2000. still have it on cd here :-)
[00:00] <zxmpi> and even then i was doing most of the typing in vim :-)
[00:00] <zxmpi> because i didn't want to wait for office to catch up
[00:01] <daftykins> you must have been running it on a typewriter! you saw my video of installing 2000 upgrade edition eh?
[00:01] <daftykins> i miss those simpler, leaner options... the UI redesigns are a joke
[06:15] <MattJ> Hmm, does anyone have recommendations for a UPS?
[06:16] <MattJ> I got an APC a few years back, seemingly without adequate research - their replacement batteries aren't available in the UK
[16:19] <zxmpi> less than 1 hour till apple shiny
[16:38] <daftykins> oh my, is it another of those already?
[16:41] <zxmpi>  apple now needs to manufacturer a new artifical cayman island to store their loot. so they need the dosh obviously
[16:43] <daftykins> if they asked the Queen nicely they could probably buy one of the small rocks just off the Channel Islands around me ;)
[16:44] <zxmpi> not in the eu. awkward for moving cash into and out of now sadly
[16:44] <zxmpi> see the post office for details :-P
[16:45] <daftykins> ah well we've never been in the EU, unless you meant the other way around that they'd want to be
[16:47] <zxmpi> gonna be fun with new 15% world corporation tax as to which megacorps stay in ireland for the great workforce
[16:50] <daftykins> apparently the Guernsey gov has a decision to make in order to recover the money spent through covid, will they tax the poor or finally milk the rich? stay tuned to find out...
[16:51] <zxmpi> a difficult decision... i'm sure they'll split the difference and tax everyone using public transport :-P
[16:51] <daftykins> lol
[16:51] <daftykins> 65p bus fare goes up to £6.50 perhaps
[16:52] <zxmpi> 7quid. to avoid handling piddling small change
[16:53] <zxmpi> government report here just announced public transport should be free. waiting to see how government wiggles out of this from one of their own departments :-)
[16:55] <daftykins> :D
[16:56] <zxmpi> it's a cheap way to bring down carbon footprint if entire country if you make more people ditch cars for buses and trains
[16:59] <daftykins> mmm, only hurdle is that you need a rock solid reliable transport system - and people aren't fond of not being able to do what they want when they want, i.e. waiting for scheduled buses of course
[17:01] <zxmpi> it's not perfect but we have road rail and trams that shift a lot of people so it could be done
[17:21] <daftykins> *nod* 
[17:22] <daftykins> hrmm, that troublesome client employee finally shared some useful data today... OpenVPN logs showing she drops out regularly, a little birdie tells me that she's one of those ones that doesn't leave the router on overnight, but powers it off daily
[17:22] <daftykins> they're also with TalkTalk, widely regarded as a terrible ISP from everything i've read
[17:23] <zxmpi> but if she leaves the wifi on when she's out of the office the hackers win!! :-P
[17:23] <daftykins> hehehe
[17:23] <daftykins> i wouldn't be surprised if being wifi connected is also a piece in the puzzle
[17:52] <daftykins> LOL i looked up her home postcode with an ISP to see how bad things are
[17:52] <daftykins> 7 Mb down!
[17:57] <zxmpi>  luxury! :-P
[17:58] <daftykins> BT don't even want to promise that much
[20:26] <daftykins> the other islands look pretty nice this evening over the top of town - https://i.imgur.com/3UFNQhf.jpg
[21:06] <popey> Is it me or has this place been more chatty since moving to libera? :D
[21:12] <MattJ> I've noticed that with other channels too :)
[21:22] <zxmpi> the people who moved over took time to say hi and a lot of deadwood dropped off