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| jeremy31 | tomreyn: or a why did they decide for Ubuntu desktop to run hwe | 20:30 |
| tomreyn | jeremy31: probably to not have so many whine about "my newly bought shiny $5000 computer don't work!!! ubuntu sucks!!!" | 20:31 |
| daftykins | not a fan of how that seems forced in 20.04 :( | 20:31 |
| daftykins | on server mainly, is where i dislike it | 20:31 |
| oerheks | hwe is enabled from the .1 version | 20:31 |
| oerheks | 20.04.1 | 20:32 |
| tomreyn | so the website is wrong? | 20:32 |
| jeremy31 | It is on the ISO from the first release, the beta didn't have it | 20:32 |
| oerheks | fresh install 20.04.1 | 20:33 |
| oerheks | so not by updating. | 20:33 |
| jeremy31 | fresh install 20.04 | 20:33 |
| daftykins | i've seen it happen through updating, new behaviour compared with the past | 20:33 |
| jeremy31 | It was listed in the manifest for the 20.04 ISO, it didn't start using 5.8 until sometime in January | 20:34 |
| tomreyn | defaulting to hwe makes sense to me, on desktops, and it's only applies there. unless, of course, you have picky hardware which also doesn't work on wayland 5 years after it was introduced and two years after X.org was considered "EOL soon" | 20:35 |
| sarnold | yeah I think they changed how hwe works in 20.04 | 20:35 |
| jeremy31 | I did a fresh install a while ago from my ISO from a year ago and was surprised to have a 5.8 kernel when I booted into it | 20:39 |
| jeremy31 | the manifest file is at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/20.04/ubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.manifest line 1349 | 20:42 |
| daftykins | i'd be very interested to see the statistics on the number of modern vs. older generation systems being used | 20:42 |
| jeremy31 | This laptop is 7 years old and it seems the hwe kernels are in the system before the dkms packages are patched to support them | 20:43 |
| tomreyn | that's probably a system where you should be staying on the GA kernel then: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Ubuntu_20.04_LTS_-_Focal_Fossa | 20:59 |
| jeremy31 | I removed the hwe and keep it on the LTS kernel | 21:00 |
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