[22:26]  * OvenWerks wonders if Eickmeyer[k] has done any more testing with controls...
[22:27] <OvenWerks> I may have to go and buy a real USB 2.0 audio if
[22:27] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: *sigh* not quite... been busy. Getting ready to do a presentation for work for a developer conference that I was basically forced into doing. If I had my way, I wouldn't be doing it because, quite frankly, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
[22:28] <OvenWerks> I have just booted 21.04 to add: https://launchpad.net/~pipewire-debian/+archive/ubuntu/pipewire-upstream to play again with PW
[22:29] <OvenWerks> if jack<->pw bridging works as it is supposed to, it may be close to switch time
[22:30] <OvenWerks> or combine time
[22:30] <OvenWerks> sounds like you are learning on the job
[22:31] <OvenWerks> unfortunate that there is a short timeline
[22:31] <OvenWerks> updating 1464 packages :P
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> Well, there's no freewheel in 21.04's pipewire, should be by the time 21.10 comes out, but those packages are coming from Debian afaik. Debian, afaik, is still release frozen.
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: ^
[22:34] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: thats why the ppa above
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> Oh, I see.
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> Can't put that in 21.10, but it's worth the experimentation.
[22:35] <OvenWerks> experimentation is needed to see what things I can bug wtay about
[22:35] <Eickmeyer> Yep.
[22:36] <OvenWerks> also to make sure I can use my audio device... usb audio seems to be getting worse if anything... may be true for alsa in general
[22:42] <Eickmeyer> Well, I think it's key to have a USB audio interface that is actually made for Low Latency, like the Scarlett Focusrite or the Behringer Uphoria series like I have.
[22:43] <Eickmeyer> I can run my Uphoria with 2 periods per buffer, contrary to most USB audio devices out there.
[22:43] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: ^
[22:44] <OvenWerks> I am also wondering if the _right_ USB3.0 hub might help
[22:45] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: it seems some people have no problems and others with the same device do
[22:45] <Eickmeyer> Might be the USB controller too. That's a crapshoot.
[22:45] <OvenWerks> I suspect motherboard (more so in laptops) is more a problem]
[22:45] <Eickmeyer> Mine is a laptop.
[22:46] <OvenWerks> I have had no problems with mine old one (32bit) either
[22:46] <Eickmeyer> I run my interface from a USB 3.1 hub from a USB C port.
[22:48] <OvenWerks> does it show up as the same bus as a mouse pluggdirectly in?
[23:40] <Eickmeyer> Yep.
[23:40] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: ^ (sorry, been busy with a ton of stuff, still workday for me)