[02:46] Well done kc2bez in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH-wCfo8R5c (Community Office hours 10/June/2021) & way to represent :) (see Lenny t-shirt @ 4:33) [02:48] Channel op (teward), I think the topic should include/mention Lubuntu Support ... it used to be "Topic for #lubuntu is: Lubuntu Support | About: https://lubuntu.me | Docs: https://manual.lubuntu.me | Lubuntu 21.04 released! https://lubuntu.me/hirsute-released/ | Offtopic: #lubuntu-offtopic | Contribute: #lubuntu-devel | Español: #lubuntu-es | Mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/lubuntu-users | Telegram: https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support" === genii is now known as genii-core === Guest5634 is now known as Jamiro [12:15] hi all === genii-core is now known as genii === E_Eickmeyer is now known as Eickmeyer [22:49] hi everyone! [22:50] im trying to install lubuntu in an old pc I had that already has windows xp on it. Since its discontinued id like to install this in order to make it usable again [22:50] im having trouble figuring out what version of the software I need [22:51] and if it is possible to make it work again or not [22:54] Sopitas72, https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/Installing_lubuntu.html is the manual section for installing Lubuntu. (stable in the URL implies latest release being 21.04. If you use LTS just change 'stable' to say LTS) [22:55] The choice of which release is up to you. I prefer the latest (Lubuntu 21.04 or 2021-April release)... but that also means you need to release-upgrade every 6-9 months which many don't like doing, thus prefer the LTS release; latest LTS is Lubuntu 20.04 (ie. 2020-April release) [22:55] oh, remember im talking about a really old pc [22:55] 'old' is vague so I don't know what to do with that... I'm on a 2009 dell & don't consider it old personally as it still runs [22:56] oh and it supports 64bits? [22:56] I used boxes as old as 2003 in QA-testing Lubuntu in the last 18 months... but 'old' means how old? [22:57] boxes as old as from 2000 are amd64 (high-end enterprise geared boxes are)... cheap consumer grade 32-bit were made into 2011; but amd64 exists from 2000 onwards [22:58] Sopitas72: maybe just let us know what your pc has for a processor and RAM and we can go from there. [22:59] its an acer aspire 3690 series model no bl50 [22:59] it currently has no os since the owner erased it [23:01] That might be an issue, a quick websearch show that to have a 32bit processor. [23:01] Celeron is cheap/consumer grade; I don't know your cpu but I see https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/27145/intel-celeron-m-processor-370-1m-cache-1-50-ghz-400-mhz-fsb.html (32-bit only) for one model you mention (there were 3 cpus available) [23:02] the last Lubuntu that runs on x86/i386 (32-bit) is Lubuntu 18.04 which we don't support any longer.. it had 3 years of support ending 2021-April (3 years from release 2018-April). Some packages are still security-upgraded [23:04] Our download page is https://lubuntu.me/downloads/ which has a 'graphic' showing support; 18.04 is off our support you'll note, but you can download it from https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.04/release/ but note as we dont' support it, we won't help you with it if you decide to use it. [23:04] what about a different OS? [23:05] We support Lubuntu [23:05] someone recommended me debian lxqt [23:05] oh right [23:05] my bad [23:06] I'll say that I Lubuntu 18.04 LTS performed better on one 2003 HP I tested with than Debian Buster (10) with LXDE (I test Debian too regularly) [23:07] on most boxes the difference was minor, but on 1 really lower powered device Lubuntu outperformed Debian (it was a celeron; only celeron I tested with) [23:08] Debian has support though, though Debian LTS is only certain packages just like Lubuntu 18.04 LTS now is... Your choice [23:10] ive already tried installing the lubuntu 18. [23:10] 04 and had some issues [23:10] but just now I realised I was installing the alternate version [23:11] so im going to give it a try with the desktop version [23:11] the alternate ISO was for boxes with ~700MB of ram or less; was NOT an ideal installer unless you had to use it [23:12] it would regularly state that my cd-room was corrupted even thou i was installing it with an usb bootable [23:13] the installation media is called CD regardless of what you write it to, meaning your ISO was corrupted (did you verify it before writing to media) or your write failed (did you verify it?) [23:13] oh I didnt know I had to verify it [23:13] how do i do that? [23:14] the Lubuntu manual pages provide some details of how to verify, but links for 18.04 will be https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu#0 and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck (the Lubuntu manual is easier but relates to later releases that verify media differently) [23:14] the Lubuntu manual maybe easier for ISO validation though [23:19] key to verify ISO is the download link I provided has two methods, SHA256SUMS file which contains filename & checksum.. You verify the (sha356) checksum of your download ISO matches the one in that file.. other method has a command do it for you (.gpg file in link); refer manual links I provided with instructions (which mention Ubuntu, Windows & OSX) [23:43] If I download the torrent of the lubuntu 18.04 desktop i dont have to verify it. right? [23:44] The torrent should take care of the verification of the download. [23:46] I'd probably still look at the CD integrity check to make sure it was written to the USB correctly. [23:46] (That is the second link guiverc gave above) [23:49] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck [23:49] Yup, that one. [23:49] * guiverc gave many links.. as he is prone to do..