| bandit-led | could some one open a .epub in okular and check .xsesssion-errors for me? https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1342.epub <<-- jane austen | 01:49 |
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| bandit-led | okular libepub filling .xsession-errors with cruft .. example https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HbkrGRkFRR/ host info https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sYjNpM4hrC/ okular 20.12.3 | 01:49 |
| bandit-led | opening the epub i linked adds 25k to my xession-errors | 01:49 |
| bandit-led | or use any epub you have on your computer or any one from project gutenburg | 01:50 |
| tomreyn | bandit-led: i'll try on a freshly installed Kubuntu 21.04 in a bit (just installing) | 01:58 |
| tomreyn | hmm this takrs a good while to install the minimal system | 02:07 |
| bandit-led | kk and your going above and beyoung | 02:07 |
| bandit-led | beyond i cant type | 02:07 |
| tomreyn | installation done, installing updates now. | 02:12 |
| tomreyn | another reboot | 02:21 |
| tomreyn | bandit-led: so i opened the file and nothing at all was added to (the existing and recently written to file) ~/.xsession-errors | 02:27 |
| bandit-led | figures :\ | 02:27 |
| tomreyn | bandit-led: i opened it from a temrinal, though, and all the stuff you have in the log went there | 02:28 |
| bandit-led | could you try from terminal and see if it outputs to stdout? | 02:28 |
| bandit-led | kk tY!! | 02:28 |
| tomreyn | it's actually to stderr, not stdout | 02:28 |
| bandit-led | hmm this might be time to change epub from okular to atril or somthing else | 02:28 |
| bandit-led | tomreyn, ty i noob most things up | 02:29 |
| tomreyn | okay if i open the file from the fiile browser (dolphin) then indeed this stuff goes to xsession-errors | 02:29 |
| bandit-led | how did you open it the first time desktop? | 02:30 |
| tomreyn | okular is installed by default on kubuntu, this makes me think it is assumed to "work ok" | 02:30 |
| tomreyn | the first time i opened it from the temrinal | 02:30 |
| tomreyn | so konsole | 02:30 |
| bandit-led | so its a filemanager stderr issue? | 02:31 |
| bandit-led | just throwing things out, no clue what i am saying just bouncing ideas around | 02:31 |
| tomreyn | i think the problem is that okular or the libepub library it uses, defaults to outputting a lot of just informational (II) log level to stderr | 02:31 |
| bandit-led | ok but why would it log it from dolphin and not terminal | 02:32 |
| tomreyn | (which are then redirected to .xsession-errors if you don't run from a terminal) | 02:32 |
| bandit-led | somthing is redirecting the log output? | 02:32 |
| bandit-led | oops sorry,,, ok looks like a bug report or you think this is wanted behavior? | 02:33 |
| tomreyn | when you are working on a graphical desktop then there is no stderr, so what's written there is written to xsession-errors instead | 02:33 |
| tomreyn | that's how it's designed | 02:33 |
| tomreyn | so that's intentional | 02:33 |
| bandit-led | but the extra libepub info probably not intentional? | 02:34 |
| tomreyn | but writing so much to stderr about things that aren't actually describing an error situation but merely informational notes on what's being dsone, should not happen. that's a bad configuration of either ocular or the libepub library | 02:34 |
| tomreyn | i feel like i explained this twice now. ;) | 02:35 |
| bandit-led | ubuntu bugreport or upstream? | 02:35 |
| bandit-led | you have i am out of spoons so am not thinking properly | 02:35 |
| tomreyn | it's clearly a bug in kubuntu, but probably upstream, too | 02:35 |
| bandit-led | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_theory if you didnt get my refrence that is offtopic but just fyi if some one else says it | 02:36 |
| bandit-led | i will post upstream and work from there TY so much for your help | 02:36 |
| bandit-led | just some one saying oh i see what you mean helps | 02:37 |
| tomreyn | ubuntu has been using the same upstream libepub version for years now https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libepub0 | 02:37 |
| tomreyn | libepub is part of ebook tools, which had its latest release in 2016 https://sourceforge.net/projects/ebook-tools/ | 02:38 |
| tomreyn | actually 2012 | 02:39 |
| bandit-led | i figure that somthing got turned on in testing and not turned off on install... not correct terms but the idea makes sense? | 02:39 |
| tomreyn | but bug reports dont seemto have been handled since 2016 | 02:39 |
| tomreyn | https://sourceforge.net/p/ebook-tools/bugs/ | 02:40 |
| bandit-led | logging=4 instead of logging =2 in the build options but i couldnt figure it out looking at the source | 02:40 |
| bandit-led | and no the logging # i used are not correct | 02:41 |
| tomreyn | somehting like this, yes. either the lib is built with too high a log level or okular fails to set it properly when using the lib. but more likely it's the lib's build process setting a bad default | 02:41 |
| tomreyn | i think your best option is to report this against debian, then against ubuntu as well, and link the ubuntu bog to debians | 02:42 |
| tomreyn | or just do ubuntu if you're not sure it also affects debian | 02:42 |
| bandit-led | kk | 02:43 |
| bandit-led | i am going to steal some of your reporting for the bug report if that ok wont use your name | 02:44 |
| tomreyn | sure | 02:45 |
| tomreyn | bandit-led: slightly related bug report https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359932 makes me think you should indeed be using calibre | 02:54 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 359932 in okular "Okular is very slow at opening some EPUB's" [Crash, Unconfirmed] | 02:54 |
| tirth | my wifi on kubuntu doesn't have range as it does in windows. wifi: Ralink RT3290 | 03:26 |
| tirth | this happens on windows also but quick restart of wifi drivers fixes it | 03:28 |
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| bandit-led | tomreyn, TY again https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438490 hope this looks ok | 03:32 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 438490 in okular "okular or epub backend logging non errors to stderr and .xsession-errors" [Normal, Unconfirmed] | 03:32 |
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