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lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:57
ducassegood morning06:56
MetamorphosisSo yeah, I found Brave to be very scammy and controversial. It is barely anything more than Chromium + an adblocker + Brave's crypto stuff on the top08:12
MetamorphosisI recommend users not to use it08:12
MetamorphosisWith almost everything other than Firefox being based on Chromium these days, there are no shortages of Chrome clones to look for a safer one.08:12
lotuspsychjeMetamorphosis: brave is not really officialy supported on apt, and they give a warning on the snap too08:14
lotuspsychjethe pro side its that its bloody fast08:15
MetamorphosisI'm not sure if it is really faster than others.08:16
lotuspsychjeit sure is08:16
MetamorphosisFor example for me Falkon browser (which has not been updated in ages) is faster than anything else.08:16
MetamorphosisBut it depends on what website I'm trying to open08:16
lotuspsychjethe new FF has improved alot speedwise, but cant reach on braves speed yet08:16
lotuspsychjedidnt test falkon myself, ill try that08:16
lotuspsychjehmm interesting Metamorphosis 08:18
lotuspsychjei like falkon08:18
lotuspsychjemight be a chromium killer :p08:20
tomreynMetamorphosis: in case you were looking for chromium builds, i.e. not chrome, distributed via apt: look for "ungoogled chromium"08:34
Metamorphosistomreyn Thanks a lot for that08:58
Metamorphosislotuspsychje If you are a Kubuntu/KDE user like me, Falkon is a must.08:59
Metamorphosistomreyn it appears that it is not in official repos in Kubuntu 20.0408:59
tomreynMetamorphosis: that's right, just like the others discussed here.09:27
tomreynin ubuntu, chromium is now a snap09:27
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ograMetamorphosis, well, if you want a newer falkon there is https://snapcraft.io/falkon ... the candidate channel has a stable 3.1.0 and edge has daily builds it seems ...09:32
TJ-Can anyone think of a way to read *translated* USB keyboard input (not scan codes, the final "a-z" for stdin) whilst on a serial console? I've stumped myself but sure I did this years ago10:42
TJ-scenario is reading a yubikey (USB HID) into a process (cryptsetup) running on the serial console10:42
Metamorphosistomreyn thanks a lot. I was never really a fan of Chrome/Chromium. I'd stick to my Firefox/ Falkon combo.11:16
Metamorphosisogra thanks for that. I think I'd stay on 20.04 until 22.04 comes out. Hopefully it will bring the new Falkon11:16
MetamorphosisBeen using Kubuntu since 2009, I have a preference to use LTS releases and upgrade every 2 years.11:17
ograMetamorphosis, snaps are completely decoupled from the hosts release ... you can install that snap on anything after 14.04 11:22
MetamorphosisYeah I am aware of that but my experience with snap was not very good tbh.11:22
MetamorphosisI live in a country where internet is extremely slow and very expensive (compared to average salary)11:23
ograthen snap should be your pick actually since it only does binary delta updates11:23
MetamorphosisAnd Snap wastes a huge chunk of bandwidth both with its ultra-large downloads and by updating things I don't really want to update.11:23
ograif only 5byte changed between two versions, only these 5byte get downloaded11:25
MetamorphosisWell, my experience has been a lot more11:26
ogradepends what changed in thes packages you used indeed11:26
ograbut "physically" only changed data is downloaded ... 11:27
ogra(using xdelta3 by default if you want to research)11:28

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