[01:13] <callmepk> good morning
[04:07] <bittin> morning
[05:41] <jibel> Good morning all
[05:46] <callmepk> hi bittin jibel 
[05:54] <jibel> Hi callmepk 
[05:56] <ricotz> good morning
[05:58] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:04] <callmepk> hi ricotz oSoMoN 
[06:07] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk, morning ricotz 
[06:16] <jibel> Salut oSoMoN 
[06:16] <jibel> hi ricotz 
[06:17] <ricotz> hey oSoMoN callmepk jibel 
[06:17] <oSoMoN> salut jibel 
[08:00] <didrocks> good morning
[08:03] <jibel> salut didrocks 
[08:03] <jibel> didrocks, https://github.com/ubuntu/WSL-DistroLauncher/actions/runs/938422288
[08:03] <laney> yo
[08:05] <jibel> Hi laney 
[08:06] <seb128> hey didrocks jibel and laney 
[08:08] <jibel> Salut seb128 
[08:10] <didrocks> jibel: yeah, I’m looking at it right now Cert:LocalMachine\Trust ? So the local one is not needed?
[08:10] <didrocks> hey laney, seb128 
[08:10] <didrocks> jibel: … and well done!
[08:10] <jibel> didrocks, we need both
[08:10] <didrocks> ah, one is used for checking
[08:10] <didrocks> and the other one for signing
[08:10] <didrocks> I guess
[08:13] <jibel> didrocks, it's been spinning in my head the whole night, and found the solution with my morning coffee 
[08:13] <jibel> :)
[08:13] <didrocks> found the solution, like you became a Windows expert and learnt about all the local certificate stores? :p
[08:14] <didrocks> which podcast were you listening while sleeping? :)
[08:28] <laney> hey jibel seb128 didrocks 
[08:28] <laney> fun with windows?
[08:30] <didrocks> hey laney, for some definition of fun :)
[08:34] <jibel> fun with windows on github actually
[08:35] <jibel> why limit the fun to windows only
[08:36]  * didrocks waits for a microsoft expert badge :)
[08:37] <laney> needs more azure
[08:42] <oSoMoN> good morning didrocks, laney, seb128 
[08:43] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN 
[08:45] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk bittin jibel ricotz oSoMoN didrocks laney seb128
[08:45] <oSoMoN> hey marcustomlinson 
[08:47] <laney> hey oSoMoN marcustomlinson 
[09:12] <seb128> RAOF, hey, do you know if there are plans to update the mir package in Debian (experimental at this point of the cycle)?
[09:14] <RAOF> I believe the Debian maintainer wants to get all the Lomiri stack in. That requires that Debian stay on the 1.8 branch.
[09:14] <RAOF> At least for now.
[09:16] <seb128> RAOF, ok, the reason I was asking is because the lomiri and ayatana indicator a blocked in proposed for Ubuntu, I though that updating in Debian would help motivating fixing it...
[09:16] <RAOF> We were hoping there'd be more movement upstream to get on to 2.x (and have done some work to help), but they've got plenty of other things needing attention 😐
[09:17] <seb128> RAOF, I'm surprised that the ayatana indicator being missing is not an issue for some flavors
[09:17] <seb128> indicators*
[09:17] <seb128> RAOF, thanks for the reply!
[09:21] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson 
[09:22] <RAOF> No problem!
[09:35] <seb128> jamesh, hey, did you see https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/the-ubuntu-software-application-refuses-to-see-that-i-am-online/24981 ? unsure if you have an idea about it
[09:35] <seb128> it fails to download assets from the store it seems for some reason
[09:35] <seb128> Gs  failed to load icon for io.snapcraft.snap-store-gjf3IPXoRiipCu9K0kVu52f0H56fIksg: Failed to download icon https://dashboard.snapcraft.io/site_media/appmedia/2018/07/io.snapcraft.Store.png: Connection terminated unexpectedly
[09:35] <seb128> but the same url on the same machine in a firefox loads fine
[09:35] <seb128> so probably not the store?
[09:42] <seb128>  sudo snap refresh --revision=70 gnome-3-34-1804
[09:42] <seb128> erreur : cannot refresh "gnome-3-34-1804": Access by specifying a revision is not allowed for this
[09:42] <seb128>           Snap.
[09:43] <seb128> thanks for not being helpful snapd :/
[09:46] <seb128> k, downgrading the snap gives working icons so that's another regression of the recent build :/
[09:47] <jamesh> seb128: I suspect things would work if snap-store adds a "network-status" plug
[09:47] <seb128> jamesh, any idea why it was not an issue before the recent rebuild?
[09:48] <jamesh> seb128: the snap is configured to use portals, and the network connectivity portal will only provide that data if the snap has network-status plugged.
[09:48] <jamesh> seb128: If the software itself hasn't changed, I don't know.  This aspect of portal behaviour happens outside the sandbox though.
[09:49] <seb128> jamesh, I downgraded to snap-store from edge and that is loading the banners and icons fine
[09:50] <seb128> (with a LD_PRELOAD of the right libatk to work with the new gnome platform since snapd doesn't let me downgrade to a random revision)
[09:51] <jamesh> seb128: I don't see any reference to GTK_USE_PORTAL in the snapcraft.yaml, but it is in the snap's meta/snap.yaml
[09:51] <jamesh> seb128: so I believe the difference is that it was compiled with a newer Snapcraft that has updated the gnome extension
[09:51] <seb128> jamesh, do you think it's a portal issue?
[09:51] <seb128> ah!
[09:52] <jamesh> seb128: In my initial patch set for snapd, I made the network portal available to any snap plugging network.  I was asked to switch it to network-status instead.
[09:53] <jamesh> seb128: adding "network-status" to the plugs list should fix the problem.
[09:53] <jamesh> I'll post a summary to the forum thread
[09:54] <seb128> jamesh, I will try that thanks, just curious but what is hinting you that it is the issue?
[09:55] <jamesh> seb128: because I wrote the code in snapd and xdg-desktop-portal that decides whether the network connectivity portal should provide that data to snaps.
[09:56] <seb128> jamesh, as usual you are spot on figuring out what the issue is
[09:56] <seb128> and it's somewhat my fault :p
[09:56] <seb128> jamesh, it's my fix on https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3356/ which is the difference
[09:56] <gitlab-bot> snapcore issue (Pull request) 3356 in snapcraft "extensions: correctly spell the GTK_USE_PORTAL variable" [Closed]
[09:57] <seb128> the previous snap env has GTK_USE_PORTALS with the 'S' still
[09:57] <seb128> ok, adding "network-status" now
[10:00] <jamesh> seb128: it's possible the network-manager plug could be dropped if it was only being used for connectivity checking
[10:00] <jamesh> but I'd leave that for another day
[10:13] <seb128> jamesh, ack
[10:15] <didrocks> seb128: hey! How do you start subiquity on the canary daily image?
[10:16] <seb128> didrocks, hey, https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-installer/blob/main/snap/snapcraft.yaml#L15
[10:17] <didrocks> seb128: oh, so it looks like it’s already started by snaps in a daemon, but starting the canary image drops us in ubiquity-dm
[10:18] <seb128> didrocks, yes, because 
[10:18] <seb128> a/ we don't have a such screen on the new installer yet
[10:18] <didrocks> should we just try ubuntu-desktop-installer? (I guess subiquity.ubuntu-desktop-installer?)
[10:18] <seb128> b/ I didn't remove ubiquity yet, mostly due to ^
[10:18] <didrocks> making sense, so live session -> ubuntu-desktop-installer
[10:18] <seb128> yes
[10:18] <didrocks> thanks!
[10:18] <seb128> and the binary is ubuntu-desktop-installer yes
[10:19] <seb128> not subiquity.
[10:19] <didrocks> ack
[10:20] <seb128> didrocks, we have a .desktop now but I didn't change the launcher config, from what I saw it sounds like we don't have overrides there, just include ubiquity in the default which is silently removed on an installer system since it's not installed?
[10:20] <seb128> installed system*
[10:21] <seb128> I guess I will build up on the same hack, add the new .desktop in the config which should give the right result once ubiquity isn't on the iso anymore
[10:23] <didrocks> yeah, sounds like a good path, but starting it manually works perfectly, thanks!
[10:25] <seb128> np!
[10:34] <seb128> jamesh, marcustomlinson, kenvandine, anyone wanting to +1 https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software/-/merge_requests/37 for the issue discussed before? Also is the store going to autoconnect that one?
[10:34] <gitlab-bot> Ubuntu issue (Merge request) 37 in gnome-software "Use network-status which is required to get connectivity" [Opened]
[10:34]  * jamesh looks
[10:36] <jamesh> seb128: I've posted my thoughts on the problem here: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/the-ubuntu-software-application-refuses-to-see-that-i-am-online/24981/4?u=jamesh
[10:39] <seb128> jamesh, thanks
[11:01] <marcustomlinson> thanks jamesh!
[12:09] <seb128> jamesh, ok, the snap finally built, somehow launchpad picked the slowest builder, armhf was done before amd64
[12:10] <seb128> the new revision is in beta and confirmed that it autoconnect and that it solved the issue
[12:11] <seb128> if some others want to give a try to snap-store/beta before I promote it to stable? we screwed some revisions in a week, would be nice to have it right on this one!
[12:29] <oSoMoN> ricotz, seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telegram-desktop/+bug/1916469/comments/14 ? Looks like some recent firefox packaging changes need to be merged back to the branch used for trunk builds
[14:11] <ricotz> oSoMoN, oh, I see
[14:12] <ricotz> thanks, I think I picked up some changes though
[14:39] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:44] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[14:44] <hellsworth> hiya oSoMoN 
[14:44] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[14:46] <hellsworth> o/ marcustomlinson 
[16:10] <ricotz> hey hellswor1 
[16:11] <ricotz> oSoMoN, I checked the current firefox-trunk build and it works as expected on wayland and runs natively
[16:12] <ricotz> (tested on focal)
[16:12] <oSoMoN> ricotz, ack, thanks for testing! can you comment on bug #1916469 to state that?
[16:46] <hellswor1> hey ricotz 
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