| didrocks999 | sorry, I will be away for the MIR team meeting today, I’ll check backlog | 14:09 |
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| cpaelzer | ok didrocks999, thanks for the heads up | 14:25 |
| * cpaelzer prepares a nice place for the MIR-campfire ... | 14:25 | |
| sarnold | good morning | 14:29 |
| ddstreet | o/ | 14:29 |
| cpaelzer | hi sarnold and ddstreet | 14:30 |
| cpaelzer | also pinging doko and jamespage | 14:30 |
| sarnold | hey cpaelzer :) | 14:30 |
| cpaelzer | but not did*rocks (see above) | 14:30 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:31 |
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| cpaelzer | #topic Review of previous action items | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | none other than our usual duty for assigned bugs | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | cherryp3 mentioned last week and worked on by jamespage | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | backkpc is the weekly joke between me and sarnold | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | pacemake->fence also is in the works | 14:32 |
| sarnold | I don't remember the logcheck -> esmtp one.. | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | this was one of the false positives | 14:32 |
| sarnold | is that lossy memory at work? | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | I debugged this and it comes down to a packge with alternative dependencies like A|B|C | 14:32 |
| sarnold | "good", that old familiar tune.. | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | but the coding change for germinate and such was non-trivial so we decided to don't mind about it until we have the luxury of time available | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | prips is new | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | but it is somewhat odd as I think we had a MIR | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | maybe it is not perfectly tagged | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | let me check | 14:33 |
| sarnold | I thought so too... | 14:34 |
| sarnold | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prips/+bug/1930207 | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prips/+bug/1930207 | 14:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1930207 in prips (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[MIR] prips package" [Undecided, Fix Committed] | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | it has lost (or never had) the right subscription to show up here | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | I fixed the bug | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | this needs an archive admin to have a look now | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | ok, that was useful | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | I don't see any other surprises in the mismatches | 14:36 |
| sarnold | heh yeah :) | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | going on ... | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | Still on doko to resolve (as last week) | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | mclemenceau: ^^ if this is a problem to take some time you might want to assign someone else? | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | I think that hint will make sure someone has a look so that we don't have to mention it every week | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | I'm re-reading the case to ensure I'm not mixing memories of a different case with this ... | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | no that is the case | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | flashrom MIR ack in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/6 | 14:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1912371 in libftdi1 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] flashrom + libftdi" [Undecided, New] | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | flashrom security ack in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/16 | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | libftdi security ack in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/17 | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | the oddity was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/8 that seemed like a self-ack followed by the update of doko | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1912371 in libftdi1 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] flashrom + libftdi" [Undecided, New] | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | mclemenceau: the mission is - was this an ack by Doko - then this can be promoted | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | mclemenceau: if not then whatever is left needs to be sorted out | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | ok enough of that one ... | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | The onle new update here is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-github-kardianos-osext/+bug/1894731 | 14:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1894731 in golang-google-protobuf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] golang-*, Go build dependencies of google-guest-agent" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | that again is for mclemenceau to think about rbalint replacement as he was unassigned | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | it is all won't fix and incomplete and can stay that way | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | but obviously if this shall be restarted someone else needs to do it | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:44 |
| mclemenceau | cpaelzer: ack. in a meeting atm but I'll look into this right after | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | I still feel security reviews are slow, is there anything we an do to help you sarnold? | 14:44 |
| sarnold | argh, sorry, I hadn't realized I was stuck in scrollback.. | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | hehe, if that is the solution for faster reviews that is easy :-) | 14:45 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: unfortunately I don't see any easy wins for addressing the speed of security team reviews; shaun is well aware of the impending backlog of doom; the others who were most interested in doing MIRs outside of their 'usual' roles have found greener pastures | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | I mean as example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl2/+bug/1256185 is from 2013 and even without being unfair the time since the last re-open until now is almost a year by now | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1256185 in libsdl2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libsdl2" [Undecided, New] | 14:47 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: we've got a new starter yesterday :D and extended offers to others recently, so I'd say in a year or two we might be in a good place.. | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | ok, thanks for sharing tih sarnold - so there is long time hope | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | and all we can do is short-term sympathy | 14:47 |
| sarnold | I certainly hope so | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | ok thne | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | anything else for this section ? | 14:48 |
| sarnold | nothing from me | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | ddstreet: ? | 14:48 |
| ddstreet | nothing from me? | 14:48 |
| ddstreet | sorry, i have mtg overlap with this | 14:49 |
| sarnold | oh man... if we scheduled *all* our meetings at once, we could leave all the other hours free... | 14:50 |
| sarnold | (once, when on two calls at once, I might have asked one of them to speak in pt_BR when they were fine without my input.. :) | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | I guess that is it then | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | thank you and see you next week | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 14:53 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 14:53:20 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-06-15-14.31.moin.txt | 14:53 |
| sarnold | woot, thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: while I have you here - thanks for the input on that libvirt/systemd/nss case | 14:53 |
| sarnold | (while I was stuck in scrollback I was looking for previous meeting logs.. this meetbot is quite old.. MIR team isn't on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs and the most recent edit is 2011..) | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | I've brought your thoughts further and now have two potential proposals there | 14:54 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: \o/ woo :) | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | would be happy about your input any time later today if you find the minute for it | 14:54 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: oh wow, that thing was used inplace of a lockfile. wacky! thanks so much for tracking down the removal commit | 14:56 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: that was bugging me but I was just spent by then :) | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | yeah it was an interesting approach of lockfile | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | why not new if there are already 12 ways to do it | 14:59 |
| sarnold | hehehe | 14:59 |
| rbasak | o/ | 19:01 |
| * vorlon waves | 19:03 | |
| vorlon | no one else? mdeslaur cyphermox | 19:12 |
| cyphermox | am here | 19:12 |
| mdeslaur | ah whoops, I'm here, sorry | 19:19 |
| vorlon | rbasak: I think the agenda doc says you're on for chairing :) | 19:25 |
| rbasak | #startmeeting Ubuntu Technical Board | 19:25 |
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| rbasak | #topic Apologies | 19:25 |
| rbasak | #info Åukasz sends his apologies | 19:26 |
| cyphermox | Sorry for missing last week; I was on the wrong IRC network. | 19:26 |
| rbasak | #topic Action review | 19:26 |
| rbasak | ACTION: Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns. | 19:26 |
| rbasak | I did speak Martin about this. He said it's going to end up moot as they're rewriting MATE Boutique (I might be getting some of the detail wrong here). | 19:27 |
| rbasak | I thought he was going to reply to the ML, but maybe the IRC chat was his response. | 19:27 |
| rbasak | I suppose I should ask for an ETA on that, and then the question to the TB is how long it's OK to continue releasing MATE without that fix. | 19:27 |
| rbasak | ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on: | 19:28 |
| rbasak | ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance. | 19:28 |
| vorlon | punt | 19:28 |
| rbasak | ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list | 19:28 |
| vorlon | punt :/ | 19:28 |
| rbasak | ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which xnox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step | 19:28 |
| rbasak | He's out, so let's defer that. | 19:28 |
| rbasak | ACTION: vorlon to update the list for Thunderbird update (https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/01/26/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:22) | 19:28 |
| vorlon | at this point, might as well take that one off; it was my idea and I'm not likely to ever clear the backlog | 19:28 |
| rbasak | OK thanks. | 19:29 |
| rbasak | #action Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns. | 19:29 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns. | 19:29 |
| rbasak | #action ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on: | 19:29 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on: | 19:29 |
| rbasak | #action ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance. | 19:29 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance. | 19:29 |
| rbasak | #action ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list | 19:29 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list | 19:29 |
| rbasak | #action ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which xnox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step | 19:29 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which xnox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step | 19:29 |
| rbasak | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 19:29 |
| rbasak | #info No items on the ML | 19:30 |
| rbasak | #topic Check up on community bugs (standing item) | 19:30 |
| rbasak | #info No open TB bugs | 19:30 |
| rbasak | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (next from https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members) | 19:30 |
| rbasak | #info The next chair will be sil2100, with mdeslaur as backup. | 19:30 |
| mdeslaur | ack, thanks | 19:31 |
| rbasak | #topic AOB | 19:31 |
| rbasak | AOB? | 19:31 |
| rbasak | #info No other items were raised | 19:32 |
| rbasak | #endmeeting | 19:32 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 19:32:11 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-06-15-19.25.moin.txt | 19:32 |
| mdeslaur | thanks rbasak! | 19:32 |
| vorlon | thanks | 19:32 |
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