[14:09] sorry, I will be away for the MIR team meeting today, I’ll check backlog [14:25] ok didrocks999, thanks for the heads up [14:25] * cpaelzer prepares a nice place for the MIR-campfire ... [14:29] good morning [14:29] o/ [14:30] hi sarnold and ddstreet [14:30] also pinging doko and jamespage [14:30] hey cpaelzer :) [14:30] but not did*rocks (see above) [14:31] #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status [14:31] Meeting started at 14:31:28 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [14:31] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [14:31] #topic Review of previous action items [14:31] none other than our usual duty for assigned bugs [14:31] #topic current component mismatches [14:31] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg [14:31] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg [14:32] cherryp3 mentioned last week and worked on by jamespage [14:32] backkpc is the weekly joke between me and sarnold [14:32] pacemake->fence also is in the works [14:32] I don't remember the logcheck -> esmtp one.. [14:32] this was one of the false positives [14:32] is that lossy memory at work? [14:32] I debugged this and it comes down to a packge with alternative dependencies like A|B|C [14:33] "good", that old familiar tune.. [14:33] but the coding change for germinate and such was non-trivial so we decided to don't mind about it until we have the luxury of time available [14:33] prips is new [14:33] but it is somewhat odd as I think we had a MIR [14:33] maybe it is not perfectly tagged [14:33] let me check [14:34] I thought so too... [14:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prips/+bug/1930207 [14:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prips/+bug/1930207 [14:34] Launchpad bug 1930207 in prips (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[MIR] prips package" [Undecided, Fix Committed] [14:34] it has lost (or never had) the right subscription to show up here [14:35] I fixed the bug [14:35] this needs an archive admin to have a look now [14:36] ok, that was useful [14:36] I don't see any other surprises in the mismatches [14:36] heh yeah :) [14:36] going on ... [14:36] #topic New MIRs [14:36] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:36] Still on doko to resolve (as last week) [14:37] mclemenceau: ^^ if this is a problem to take some time you might want to assign someone else? [14:37] I think that hint will make sure someone has a look so that we don't have to mention it every week [14:39] I'm re-reading the case to ensure I'm not mixing memories of a different case with this ... [14:40] no that is the case [14:40] flashrom MIR ack in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/6 [14:40] Launchpad bug 1912371 in libftdi1 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] flashrom + libftdi" [Undecided, New] [14:40] flashrom security ack in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/16 [14:41] libftdi security ack in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/17 [14:41] the oddity was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/8 that seemed like a self-ack followed by the update of doko [14:41] Launchpad bug 1912371 in libftdi1 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] flashrom + libftdi" [Undecided, New] [14:42] mclemenceau: the mission is - was this an ack by Doko - then this can be promoted [14:42] mclemenceau: if not then whatever is left needs to be sorted out [14:42] ok enough of that one ... [14:42] #topic Incomplete bugs / questions [14:42] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:43] The onle new update here is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-github-kardianos-osext/+bug/1894731 [14:43] Launchpad bug 1894731 in golang-google-protobuf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] golang-*, Go build dependencies of google-guest-agent" [Undecided, Incomplete] [14:43] that again is for mclemenceau to think about rbalint replacement as he was unassigned [14:43] it is all won't fix and incomplete and can stay that way [14:43] but obviously if this shall be restarted someone else needs to do it [14:44] #topic Any other business? [14:44] cpaelzer: ack. in a meeting atm but I'll look into this right after [14:44] I still feel security reviews are slow, is there anything we an do to help you sarnold? [14:45] argh, sorry, I hadn't realized I was stuck in scrollback.. [14:45] hehe, if that is the solution for faster reviews that is easy :-) [14:46] cpaelzer: unfortunately I don't see any easy wins for addressing the speed of security team reviews; shaun is well aware of the impending backlog of doom; the others who were most interested in doing MIRs outside of their 'usual' roles have found greener pastures [14:47] I mean as example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl2/+bug/1256185 is from 2013 and even without being unfair the time since the last re-open until now is almost a year by now [14:47] Launchpad bug 1256185 in libsdl2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libsdl2" [Undecided, New] [14:47] cpaelzer: we've got a new starter yesterday :D and extended offers to others recently, so I'd say in a year or two we might be in a good place.. [14:47] ok, thanks for sharing tih sarnold - so there is long time hope [14:47] and all we can do is short-term sympathy [14:47] I certainly hope so [14:47] ok thne [14:48] anything else for this section ? [14:48] nothing from me [14:48] ddstreet: ? [14:48] nothing from me? [14:49] sorry, i have mtg overlap with this [14:50] oh man... if we scheduled *all* our meetings at once, we could leave all the other hours free... [14:51] (once, when on two calls at once, I might have asked one of them to speak in pt_BR when they were fine without my input.. :) [14:52] hehe [14:53] I guess that is it then [14:53] thank you and see you next week [14:53] #endmeeting [14:53] Meeting ended at 14:53:20 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-06-15-14.31.moin.txt [14:53] woot, thanks cpaelzer, all :) [14:53] sarnold: while I have you here - thanks for the input on that libvirt/systemd/nss case [14:54] (while I was stuck in scrollback I was looking for previous meeting logs.. this meetbot is quite old.. MIR team isn't on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs and the most recent edit is 2011..) [14:54] I've brought your thoughts further and now have two potential proposals there [14:54] cpaelzer: \o/ woo :) [14:54] would be happy about your input any time later today if you find the minute for it [14:56] cpaelzer: oh wow, that thing was used inplace of a lockfile. wacky! thanks so much for tracking down the removal commit [14:57] cpaelzer: that was bugging me but I was just spent by then :) [14:59] yeah it was an interesting approach of lockfile [14:59] why not new if there are already 12 ways to do it [14:59] hehehe [19:01] o/ [19:03] * vorlon waves [19:12] no one else? mdeslaur cyphermox [19:12] am here [19:19] ah whoops, I'm here, sorry [19:25] rbasak: I think the agenda doc says you're on for chairing :) [19:25] #startmeeting Ubuntu Technical Board [19:25] Meeting started at 19:25:44 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [19:25] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [19:25] #topic Apologies [19:26] #info Åukasz sends his apologies [19:26] Sorry for missing last week; I was on the wrong IRC network. [19:26] #topic Action review [19:26] ACTION: Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns. [19:27] I did speak Martin about this. He said it's going to end up moot as they're rewriting MATE Boutique (I might be getting some of the detail wrong here). [19:27] I thought he was going to reply to the ML, but maybe the IRC chat was his response. [19:27] I suppose I should ask for an ETA on that, and then the question to the TB is how long it's OK to continue releasing MATE without that fix. [19:28] ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on: [19:28] ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance. [19:28] punt [19:28] ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list [19:28] punt :/ [19:28] ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which xnox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step [19:28] He's out, so let's defer that. [19:28] ACTION: vorlon to update the list for Thunderbird update (https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/01/26/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:22) [19:28] at this point, might as well take that one off; it was my idea and I'm not likely to ever clear the backlog [19:29] OK thanks. [19:29] #action Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns. [19:29] ACTION: Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns. [19:29] #action ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on: [19:29] ACTION: ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on: [19:29] #action ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance. [19:29] ACTION: ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance. [19:29] #action ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list [19:29] ACTION: ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list [19:29] #action ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which xnox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step [19:29] ACTION: ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which xnox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step [19:29] #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) [19:30] #info No items on the ML [19:30] #topic Check up on community bugs (standing item) [19:30] #info No open TB bugs [19:30] #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (next from https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members) [19:30] #info The next chair will be sil2100, with mdeslaur as backup. [19:31] ack, thanks [19:31] #topic AOB [19:31] AOB? [19:32] #info No other items were raised [19:32] #endmeeting [19:32] Meeting ended at 19:32:11 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-06-15-19.25.moin.txt [19:32] thanks rbasak! [19:32] thanks