[14:09] <didrocks999> sorry, I will be away for the MIR team meeting today, I’ll check backlog
[14:25] <cpaelzer> ok didrocks999, thanks for the heads up
[14:25]  * cpaelzer prepares a nice place for the MIR-campfire ...
[14:29] <sarnold> good morning
[14:29] <ddstreet> o/
[14:30] <cpaelzer> hi sarnold and ddstreet
[14:30] <cpaelzer> also pinging doko and jamespage
[14:30] <sarnold> hey cpaelzer :)
[14:30] <cpaelzer> but not did*rocks (see above)
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[14:31] <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
[14:31] <cpaelzer> none other than our usual duty for assigned bugs
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:32] <cpaelzer> cherryp3 mentioned last week and worked on by jamespage
[14:32] <cpaelzer> backkpc is the weekly joke between me and sarnold
[14:32] <cpaelzer> pacemake->fence also is in the works
[14:32] <sarnold> I don't remember the logcheck -> esmtp one..
[14:32] <cpaelzer> this was one of the false positives
[14:32] <sarnold> is that lossy memory at work?
[14:32] <cpaelzer> I debugged this and it comes down to a packge with alternative dependencies like A|B|C
[14:33] <sarnold> "good", that old familiar tune..
[14:33] <cpaelzer> but the coding change for germinate and such was non-trivial so we decided to don't mind about it until we have the luxury of time available
[14:33] <cpaelzer> prips is new
[14:33] <cpaelzer> but it is somewhat odd as I think we had a MIR
[14:33] <cpaelzer> maybe it is not perfectly tagged
[14:33] <cpaelzer> let me check
[14:34] <sarnold> I thought so too...
[14:34] <sarnold> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prips/+bug/1930207
[14:34] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prips/+bug/1930207
[14:34] <cpaelzer> it has lost (or never had) the right subscription to show up here
[14:35] <cpaelzer> I fixed the bug
[14:35] <cpaelzer> this needs an archive admin to have a look now
[14:36] <cpaelzer> ok, that was useful
[14:36] <cpaelzer> I don't see any other surprises in the mismatches
[14:36] <sarnold> heh yeah :)
[14:36] <cpaelzer> going on ...
[14:36] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[14:36] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:36] <cpaelzer> Still on doko to resolve (as last week)
[14:37] <cpaelzer> mclemenceau: ^^ if this is a problem to take some time you might want to assign someone else?
[14:37] <cpaelzer> I think that hint will make sure someone has a look so that we don't have to mention it every week
[14:39] <cpaelzer> I'm re-reading the case to ensure I'm not mixing memories of a different case with this ...
[14:40] <cpaelzer> no that is the case
[14:40] <cpaelzer> flashrom MIR ack in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/6
[14:40] <cpaelzer> flashrom security ack in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/16
[14:41] <cpaelzer> libftdi security ack in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/17
[14:41] <cpaelzer> the oddity was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi1/+bug/1912371/comments/8 that seemed like a self-ack followed by the update of doko
[14:42] <cpaelzer> mclemenceau: the mission is - was this an ack by Doko - then this can be promoted
[14:42] <cpaelzer> mclemenceau: if not then whatever is left needs to be sorted out
[14:42] <cpaelzer> ok enough of that one ...
[14:42] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[14:42] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:43] <cpaelzer> The onle new update here is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-github-kardianos-osext/+bug/1894731
[14:43] <cpaelzer> that again is for mclemenceau to think about rbalint replacement as he was unassigned
[14:43] <cpaelzer> it is all won't fix and incomplete and can stay that way
[14:43] <cpaelzer> but obviously if this shall be restarted someone else needs to do it
[14:44] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[14:44] <mclemenceau> cpaelzer: ack. in a meeting atm but I'll look into this right after
[14:44] <cpaelzer> I still feel security reviews are slow, is there anything we an do to help you sarnold?
[14:45] <sarnold> argh, sorry, I hadn't realized I was stuck in scrollback..
[14:45] <cpaelzer> hehe, if that is the solution for faster reviews that is easy :-)
[14:46] <sarnold> cpaelzer: unfortunately I don't see any easy wins for addressing the speed of security team reviews; shaun is well aware of the impending backlog of doom; the others who were most interested in doing MIRs outside of their 'usual' roles have found greener pastures
[14:47] <cpaelzer> I mean as example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl2/+bug/1256185 is from 2013 and even without being unfair the time since the last re-open until now is almost a year by now
[14:47] <sarnold> cpaelzer: we've got a new starter yesterday :D and extended offers to others recently, so I'd say in a year or two we might be in a good place..
[14:47] <cpaelzer> ok, thanks for sharing tih sarnold - so there is long time hope
[14:47] <cpaelzer> and all we can do is short-term sympathy
[14:47] <sarnold> I certainly hope so
[14:47] <cpaelzer> ok thne
[14:48] <cpaelzer> anything else for this section ?
[14:48] <sarnold> nothing from me
[14:48] <cpaelzer> ddstreet: ?
[14:48] <ddstreet> nothing from me?
[14:49] <ddstreet> sorry, i have mtg overlap with this
[14:50] <sarnold> oh man... if we scheduled *all* our meetings at once, we could leave all the other hours free...
[14:51] <sarnold> (once, when on two calls at once, I might have asked one of them to speak in pt_BR when they were fine without my input.. :)
[14:52] <cpaelzer> hehe
[14:53] <cpaelzer> I guess that is it then
[14:53] <cpaelzer> thank you and see you next week
[14:53] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
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[14:53] <sarnold> woot, thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[14:53] <cpaelzer> sarnold: while I have you here - thanks for the input on that libvirt/systemd/nss case
[14:54] <sarnold> (while I was stuck in scrollback I was looking for previous meeting logs.. this meetbot is quite old.. MIR team isn't on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs and the most recent edit is 2011..)
[14:54] <cpaelzer> I've brought your thoughts further and now have two potential proposals there
[14:54] <sarnold> cpaelzer: \o/ woo :)
[14:54] <cpaelzer> would be happy about your input any time later today if you find the minute for it
[14:56] <sarnold> cpaelzer: oh wow, that thing was used inplace of a lockfile. wacky! thanks so much for tracking down the removal commit
[14:57] <sarnold> cpaelzer: that was bugging me but I was just spent by then :)
[14:59] <cpaelzer> yeah it was an interesting approach of lockfile
[14:59] <cpaelzer> why not new if there are already 12 ways to do it
[14:59] <sarnold> hehehe
[19:01] <rbasak> o/
[19:03]  * vorlon waves
[19:12] <vorlon> no one else?  mdeslaur cyphermox
[19:12] <cyphermox> am here
[19:19] <mdeslaur> ah whoops, I'm here, sorry
[19:25] <vorlon> rbasak: I think the agenda doc says you're on for chairing :)
[19:25] <rbasak> #startmeeting Ubuntu Technical Board
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[19:25] <rbasak> #topic Apologies
[19:26] <rbasak> #info Åukasz sends his apologies
[19:26] <cyphermox> Sorry for missing last week; I was on the wrong IRC network.
[19:26] <rbasak> #topic Action review
[19:26] <rbasak> ACTION: Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns.
[19:27] <rbasak> I did speak Martin about this. He said it's going to end up moot as they're rewriting MATE Boutique (I might be getting some of the detail wrong here).
[19:27] <rbasak> I thought he was going to reply to the ML, but maybe the IRC chat was his response.
[19:27] <rbasak> I suppose I should ask for an ETA on that, and then the question to the TB is how long it's OK to continue releasing MATE without that fix.
[19:28] <rbasak> ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on:
[19:28] <rbasak> ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance.
[19:28] <vorlon> punt
[19:28] <rbasak> ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list
[19:28] <vorlon> punt :/
[19:28] <rbasak> ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which xnox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step
[19:28] <rbasak> He's out, so let's defer that.
[19:28] <rbasak> ACTION: vorlon to update the list for Thunderbird update (https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/01/26/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:22)
[19:28] <vorlon> at this point, might as well take that one off; it was my idea and I'm not likely to ever clear the backlog
[19:29] <rbasak> OK thanks.
[19:29] <rbasak> #action Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns.
[19:29] <meetingology> ACTION: Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns.
[19:29] <rbasak> #action ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on:
[19:29] <meetingology> ACTION: ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on:
[19:29] <rbasak> #action ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance.
[19:29] <meetingology> ACTION: ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance.
[19:29] <rbasak> #action ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list
[19:29] <meetingology> ACTION: ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list
[19:29] <rbasak> #action ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which xnox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step
[19:29] <meetingology> ACTION: ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which xnox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step
[19:29] <rbasak> #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item)
[19:30] <rbasak> #info No items on the ML
[19:30] <rbasak> #topic Check up on community bugs (standing item)
[19:30] <rbasak> #info No open TB bugs
[19:30] <rbasak> #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (next from https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members)
[19:30] <rbasak> #info The next chair will be sil2100, with mdeslaur as backup.
[19:31] <mdeslaur> ack, thanks
[19:31] <rbasak> #topic AOB
[19:31] <rbasak> AOB?
[19:32] <rbasak> #info No other items were raised
[19:32] <rbasak> #endmeeting
[19:32] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 19:32:11 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-06-15-19.25.moin.txt
[19:32] <mdeslaur> thanks rbasak!
[19:32] <vorlon> thanks