[02:02] <callmepk> good morning
[06:12] <didrocks> good morning
[06:17] <bittin> morning
[06:21] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:25] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, hey bittin 
[06:25] <oSoMoN> good morning bittin, salut didrocks 
[06:27] <ricotz> good morning everyone
[06:28] <didrocks> hey ricotz 
[06:28] <oSoMoN> morning ricotz 
[07:18] <seb128> hey desktopers, how are you?
[07:22] <callmepk> hi didrocks bittin oSoMoN ricotz seb128 
[07:22] <didrocks> salut seb128, hey callmepk 
[07:49] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, hey callmepk 
[07:49] <oSoMoN> seb128, doing fine, and you?
[08:03] <laney> \o
[08:04] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk didrocks bittin oSoMoN ricotz seb128 laney :)
[08:08] <oSoMoN> hey laney, marcustomlinson 
[08:11] <laney> yo marcustomlinson oSoMoN 
[08:17] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, I applied a gnome-shell update on hirsute this morning, then rebooted and got a crash report dialog just after reboot, for /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary
[08:18] <oSoMoN> I wouldn't see my crash report on errors.ubuntu.com so I manually uploaded it with apport-bug, and I now see the corresponding .upload file, but still not seeing the crash in the error tracker
[08:27] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson, laney!
[08:40] <jibel> Good morning
[08:43] <oSoMoN> salut jibel 
[08:51] <marcustomlinson> hey jibel
[09:32] <jibel> salut oSoMoN marcustomlinson 
[09:33] <laney> hey didrocks jibel 
[09:33] <jibel> Hey laney 
[09:33]  * laney is examining https://launchpadlibrarian.net/544034208/syslog
[09:33] <laney> someone is managing to reproduce that dbus/systemd timeout thing using cloud images
[11:00] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: hey! Mhmhm can you get the stacktrace from the dump in the apoort file? 
[11:36] <KGB-2> gnome-builder tags ded672a Sebastien Bacher upstream/3.40.2 * Upstream version 3.40.2 * https://deb.li/OnHV
[11:37] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest 574f99e Sebastien Bacher * pushed 317 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iO27j
[11:37] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest efdefcf James Westman src/plugins/deviced/gbp-deviced-deploy-strategy.c * deviced: Override finish functions * https://deb.li/kbJ7
[11:37] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest 96732a8 James Westman src/plugins/deviced/gbp-deviced-deploy-strategy.c * deviced: Use the correct triplet * https://deb.li/3Wnpd
[11:38] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest 8ca0196 Christian Hergert src/libide/foundry/ide-build-manager.c * foundry: be tolerant of NULL error message * https://deb.li/eBaF
[11:38] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest df70be2 Christian Hergert src/libide/themes/themes/shared/shared-editor.css * themes: work around broken distro themes * https://deb.li/3a2H1
[11:38] <KGB-2> gnome-builder upstream/latest a5b216a Christian Hergert src/plugins/flatpak/ gbp-flatpak-manifest.c gbp-flatpak-manifest.h * flatpak: add helper to get platform (aka runtime) * https://deb.li/82bN
[11:38] <KGB-2> gnome-builder pristine-tar b477ab7 Sebastien Bacher gnome-builder_3.40.2.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-builder_3.40.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-builder_3.40.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/r2mh
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music pristine-tar 703cafe Iain Lane gnome-music_40.1.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-music_40.1.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-music_40.1.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3FB1I
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music pristine-tar 0650d30 Iain Lane gnome-music_40.1.1.orig.tar.xz.delta * pristine-tar data for gnome-music_40.1.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/abFE
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest b31ab2a Iain Lane * pushed 76 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3uXNe
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest 1cf0f57 Jean Felder NEWS data/org.gnome.Music.appdata.xml.in.in meson.build * Release 40.0 * https://deb.li/fn7D
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest 03b59bf Jean Felder gnomemusic/gstplayer.py * gstplayer: Fix change to stopped state * https://deb.li/3eFVz
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest 49737ba Jean Felder gnomemusic/grilowrappers/grltrackerplaylists.py * grltrackerplaylists: Fix update playlist query when adding songs * https://deb.li/3k2dR
[11:50] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest f902e2c Jean Felder gnomemusic/grilowrappers/grltrackerplaylists.py * grltrackerplaylists: Do not add the same song several times * https://deb.li/iWbgv
[11:51] <KGB-2> gnome-music upstream/latest 4e36a50 Jean Felder gnomemusic/grilowrappers/grltrackerplaylists.py * grltrackerplaylists: Fix add_songs docstring * https://deb.li/prxn
[11:51] <KGB-2> gnome-music tags bc8c82a Iain Lane upstream/40.1.1 * Upstream version 40.1.1 * https://deb.li/3QBm7
[11:57] <KGB-2> evince tags d7f08af Sebastien Bacher upstream/40.2 * Upstream version 40.2 * https://deb.li/3VXuF
[11:57] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest e7e9c42 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 15 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/BFnx
[11:57] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest c669bb5 Yosef Or Boczko po/he.po * Update Hebrew translation * https://deb.li/3LFah
[11:58] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest 4b3dc92 Sebastien Bacher build-aux/snap/snapcraft.yaml * snap: update to the gnome 3.38 extension to fix the build * https://deb.li/02J2
[11:58] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest 9fb2621 Pawan Chitrakar po/ne.po * Update Nepali translation * https://deb.li/iibpC
[11:58] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest 6f42de4 Germán Poo-Caamaño shell/ev-window-title.c * shell: Explicitly set title in the header bar as a fallback * https://deb.li/j2vg
[11:58] <KGB-2> evince upstream/latest 059140c Jordi Mas help/ca/ca.po * Update Catalan translation * https://deb.li/3Db7l
[11:58] <KGB-2> evince pristine-tar 8d93e85 Sebastien Bacher evince_40.2.orig.tar.xz.delta evince_40.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for evince_40.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3TBdE
[12:09] <KGB-2> gnome-music Iain Lane 244635 * commented merge request !2 * https://deb.li/312FD
[12:20] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RNnPZqnRDx/
[12:21] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: I guess you need some symbols, at least libmutter and gnome-shell ones i feel
[12:22] <oSoMoN> the executable that crashed is /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary, it doesn't link against libmutter
[12:23] <oSoMoN> but I'll see if I can get a more complete and useful trace
[12:28] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, that looks better: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MMvjHdTR5x/
[12:28] <oSoMoN> "query-end-session", does this mean the crash occured when closing the session when I rebooted?
[13:06] <fossfreedom> Trevinho: is bug #1931901 anywhere in your radar? Ubuntu Budgie now has a broken desktop since gsettings-desktop-schemas migrated today
[14:02] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: interesting, report it at gnome-session gnome upsteram, Benjamin should look at it
[14:06] <Trevinho> fossfreedom: mhmhm, so... i think removing the patch is sanest at this point. Indeed can be annoying but I think it's the right thing to do
[14:07] <Trevinho> since that patch is really not needed by anything around, and if it is, well we've to drop that.
[14:07] <Trevinho> I think it's better to prepare a ppa with that migration though, maybe do we want to prepare a silo with that?
[14:09] <Trevinho> fossfreedom: otherwise, another otpion is to make the `gnome_bg_set_draw_background` a no-op... Printing a critical instead.
[14:09] <Trevinho> and wait for next upstream SO bump for dropping the api
[14:09] <Trevinho> I think this is better for now
[14:10] <Trevinho> could even use a g_error...
[14:16] <fossfreedom> Trevinho: the latter is sounds the best way forward. I agree with you that no one should be using that key so removing it from gsettings-schemas is the correct way to go
[14:17] <Trevinho> fossfreedom: we see if something is using the function around, if not we can probably even just drop it without caring about the so-name either
[14:17] <fossfreedom> Fair enough. 
[14:39] <KGB-2> gnome-photos tags beee8a0 Iain Lane upstream/40.0 * Upstream version 40.0 * https://deb.li/ix1xx
[14:39] <KGB-2> gnome-photos tags beee8a0 Iain Lane upstream/40.0 * tag deleted
[15:37] <KGB-1> gnome-photos pristine-tar a7a6db1 Iain Lane gnome-photos_40.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-photos_40.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-photos_40.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/Q1qM
[15:37] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest 5190f97 Iain Lane * pushed 129 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3D3xj
[15:37] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest 2df3bbd Kjartan Maraas po/nb.po * Update Norwegian Bokmål translation * https://deb.li/VyN4
[15:37] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest c855a5a Abanoub Ghadban src/ photos-base-item.c photos-base-item.h * base-item: Convert photos_base_item_trash to async API * https://deb.li/3TWED
[15:38] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest 4f70565 Abanoub Ghadban src/photos-delete-notification.c * delete-notification: Ensure that items get deleted when app is quit * https://deb.li/LWVg
[15:38] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest e2b961b Debarshi Ray src/photos-base-item.c * base-item: Fix typo * https://deb.li/3q1ll
[15:38] <KGB-1> gnome-photos upstream/latest 5ce0b82 Debarshi Ray src/photos-base-item.c * base-item: Don't free the GError twice * https://deb.li/3iCgx
[15:38] <KGB-1> gnome-photos tags f49efd6 Iain Lane upstream/40.0 * Upstream version 40.0 * https://deb.li/ix1xx
[19:24] <donfede> hello - i'm seeking help in changing the GDM (login greeter) theme/positioning (vertical vs horiz banner-text arrangements); where may i find more info on that?
[19:25]  * donfede i've successfully changed most settings via /etc/gdm/greeter.dconf-defaults, but the banner-text is squished. 
[19:26]  * donfede i'm trying to either remove the user/face icon area (allowing more space for banner text), or move the banner text from top (verticale layout) to left (horizontal layout) as is used on CentOS7
[19:33] <fossfreedom> Trevinho: I've attached a couple of possible debdiff's along the ideas you outlined earlier - please can you consider these?  TIA bug #1931901
[20:59] <donfede> digging further keep seeing gdm (theme) customization is centered around gresource; yaru-theme so far looks like a promising lead to customize...
[21:21] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-session/-/issues/92
[21:21] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue 92 in gnome-session "gnome-session-binary crashed with SIGSEGV when rebooting" [Opened]