| jbicha | My launchpad ID is jbicha . Please cloak me | 00:33 |
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| sarnold | "my voice is my passport" | 00:37 |
| jbicha | I'm just trying to follow directions, lol | 00:37 |
| sarnold | :) | 00:37 |
| sarnold | jbicha: could you add an explicit 'libera' irc account on your http://launchpad.net/~/ irc page? | 00:39 |
| jbicha | I think it's there now | 00:40 |
| sarnold | I don'tr think there's a way for me to make sure that irc.ubuntu.com was added after freenode imploded | 00:40 |
| jbicha | right | 00:40 |
| sarnold | aha, it's there now | 00:40 |
| sarnold | thanks | 00:40 |
| sarnold | I wonder if I got served a stale cached version | 00:40 |
| * enyc meows at https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php | 07:22 | |
| * enyc thinks.... who funds libera.chat ? Do large channel users like #ubuntu* sponsor them at all? | 07:23 | |
| enyc | I wonder if any 'growing pains' / server overload might be an issue, etc... | 07:24 |
| Myrtti | enyc: universities, LUGs, hosting companies sponsor a server they physically have for the infrastructure | 07:36 |
| * enyc hrrms | 07:37 | |
| Myrtti | the network itself can and freenode historically did survive years without money exchanging hands | 07:37 |
| enyc | Myrtti: that makes sense just needs right people-cooperation etc | 07:38 |
| Myrtti | staff is unpaid volunteers | 07:38 |
| enyc | I imagine irc server load isn't that high compared to modern machines/networks etc | 07:38 |
| Myrtti | right | 07:38 |
| enyc | trouble is more reliability | 07:38 |
| enyc | don't want netsplits much | 07:38 |
| Myrtti | memory usage is the bottleneck aiui | 07:39 |
| enyc | and, as you say, user problems, ops etc | 07:39 |
| enyc | freenode are having a lot of ''fun'' at the moment! | 07:39 |
| Myrtti | as for #ubuntu sponsoring... Ubuntu Code of conduct and the IRC guidelines worked together with the freenode catalyst and channel guidelines and, as a result, they kinda worked as a staff apprenticeship. the percentage of Ubuntu affiliated people in the staff is quite high | 07:43 |
| Unit193 | Also the ability to take a good DoS. | 07:43 |
| Myrtti | what Canonical and companies do with their money to support the network, I do not know, and I doubt right now Libera is even accepting anything from companies, seeing how... erm. yes. | 07:46 |
| Myrtti | nevermind | 07:46 |
| Myrtti | if talking about straight up money, that os | 07:47 |
| Myrtti | is | 07:47 |
| Myrtti | of course Im not currently staff so I can't speak for them, but IMO best let the dust settle a little | 07:49 |
| enyc | Unit193: aah yes good point | 09:14 |
| * enyc meows Myrtti | 09:15 | |
| enyc | who was asking about any dhefault irc server in clients rpovided by ubuntu LTS | 09:15 |
| ogra | enyc, irc.ubuntu.com points properly to libera ... IIRC all clients that have had ubuntu servers added only had irc.ubuntu.com set in their default config ... | 09:42 |
| ogra | enyc, i think many these 300 ppl on freenode are rather IRC proxies and such | 09:43 |
| Unit193 | ogra: That was phased out because TLS verification. | 09:45 |
| ogra | Unit193, weird, i properly get | 09:54 |
| ogra | $ host irc.ubuntu.com | 09:54 |
| ogra | irc.ubuntu.com is an alias for irc.libera.chat. | 09:54 |
| Unit193 | Right, but try connecting to irc.ubuntu.com with port 6697 and tell me if you get a TLS cert mismatch error? :) | 09:55 |
| ogra | ah, i use bip on a server ... (and that points to libera) ... | 09:56 |
| enyc | ogra: and, which ubuntu-supplied irc clients provide link to freenode by default? | 09:59 |
| enyc | post usage of irc.ubuntu.com etc | 09:59 |
| ogra | i dont think any we touched in the archive point to freenode directly | 10:00 |
| ogra | they should all use irc.u.c | 10:00 |
| ogra | (all -> likely only quassel and hexchat/xchat, perhaps irssi, not sure about that one) | 10:01 |
| Unit193 | Irssi says freenode. | 10:03 |
| Unit193 | But that's a small welcome message if a user has never launched it before, not as noticable as one of the GUI clients. | 10:04 |
| ogra | ah, not a default config then | 10:04 |
| ogra | i know the hexchat ubuntu package defaults to irc.u.c when you do not configure it further | 10:05 |
| Unit193 | https://sources.debian.org/src/hexchat/2.14.3-6/debian/default_servers/ubuntu/ ? :) | 10:07 |
| ogra | 13 Mar 2018 ?? | 10:08 |
| ogra | someone seems to have a really wrong clock here 🙂 | 10:09 |
| Unit193 | https://sources.debian.org/src/smuxi/1.1-1/debian/patches/ubuntu_default_settings.patch/ that is lovely... | 10:10 |
| enyc | hrrm ..... | 10:27 |
| enyc | irssi, weechat, xchat, suggested to me | 10:27 |
| Unit193 | xchat isn't really a thing. | 10:27 |
| ogra | yeah, thats hexchat | 10:27 |
| enyc | ok, which of those have a default-freenode-link in ubuntu-provided package? | 10:28 |
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| enyc | Hrrm apparently the hexchat default channel list is *compiled into* hexchat | 14:53 |
| enyc | therefore, can ubuntu-irc team create relevant launchpad bug for this ?? | 14:54 |
| enyc | would be doing all ubuntu lts users a good service not to point them to freenode by default | 14:54 |
| Mekaneck | enyc: i don't think the IRC ops can but you can open a bug report on Launchpad for it | 15:00 |
| enyc | Mekaneck: presumably anybody (including an irc op) can create a bugreport | 15:00 |
| enyc | Mekaneck: but might look betetr if they did and exlpained important reasons | 15:01 |
| enyc | or at leas macked u for SRU | 15:01 |
| Mekaneck | you can too | 15:01 |
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