[00:15] <ahmed> #leb
[00:31] <leftyfb> bry: please stop changing nicks or /part till you settle on one
[00:32] <bry> leftyfb: sorry, i'm good thanks
[00:48] <z1haze> what is the proper way to save a backup of my os? eg i have a fresh os installed with a few configuration changes. I am about to start messing around with things, and will likely need to come back to this. until now i have just been wiping the drive, and reinstalling the os, but becoming lengthy
[00:48] <Bashing-om> !backup | z1haze
[00:53] <toddc> ZFS snapshot, DD, and about a thousand others each has its perpose and skill set so there is no incorrect answer. start with simple one listed above
[00:54] <tango_uniform_xr> like ^, there's zfs snapshots, btrfs snapshots, lvm snapshots, and i'd recommend backing up key files to stuff like USB drives, secondary drives, CD/DVD etc
[00:55] <tango_uniform_xr> if you use zfs with ubuntu it'll automatically snapshot after every update
[00:56] <toddc> +1 but that usually above the new user skill-set
[00:56] <tango_uniform_xr> i mean, the desktop installer lets you pick zfs
[00:56] <toddc> bacula is pretty simple as I recall and works well
[00:58] <toddc> tango_uniform_xr: yes but to teach a new user to restore and manage a snapshot.....  I am sure there will soon be a gui for ZFS management
[01:06] <toddc> years ago I installed two drives and booted a clonezilla disk to make 1:1 copy for backup
[03:07] <z1haze> I am testing out a backup utility (timeshift) which basically only requires a single command and 1 flag of --create .. which i ran and it all went fine.. I wanted to test restoring so i ran the say command, again with a single flag of --restore and i picked the backup, etc.. and i get an error Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:09] <z1haze> the only thing im not sure of when going through the little wizard, is what/where is the grub loader?
[03:09] <z1haze> gives me 2 options, ive tried both with the same result.
[03:10] <leftyfb> z1haze: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1541060&sid=faed67adc06d91d35de079050a8ad3f2#p1541060
[03:11] <z1haze> i feel like ive done this correctly, yet still erroring: https://bpa.st/FFXQ
[03:13] <z1haze> how could i have messed this up? I literally just installed it, created a backup, and tried to restore from the backup to see if it would work
[03:15] <z1haze> when i run df -h i dont even see mmcblk0 at all
[03:15] <tango_uniform_xr> is it mounted?
[03:16] <z1haze> i dunno, im just trying to use this simple backup tool because im not very experienced.
[03:16] <z1haze> i followed all of the instructions, it doesnt say i need to mount anything
[03:16] <z1haze> i didnt mount anything when it made the backup
[03:16] <tango_uniform_xr> that's ok, for stuff to show up in df -h it needs to be mounted
[03:16] <tango_uniform_xr> lsblk will show your block devices
[03:17] <z1haze> it looks like mmcblk0 is the device, and mmcblk0p1 and mmcblk0p2 are inside of it
[03:17] <z1haze> mmcblk0p2 179:2    0 59.4G  0 part /run/timeshift/backup
[03:17] <z1haze> mmcblk0p1 179:1    0  256M  0 part /boot/firmware
[03:18] <z1haze> the correct answer to the grub device location should be mmcblk0p1, right?
[03:18] <z1haze> https://bpa.st/GLKQ
[03:19] <z1haze> it was supposed to be a 'super simple' solution for backups
[03:20] <tango_uniform_xr> usually when i think of "grub device location" i would think of the device itself and not its partitions, aka mmcblk0
[03:20] <z1haze> what would explain the failure i get then?
[03:21] <tango_uniform_xr> go back to your restore command and put mmcblk0 as the grub device
[03:22] <z1haze> here's the complete process.. https://bpa.st/BEKA i dont know what i could possibly do differently
[03:23] <tango_uniform_xr> does the device need to be bootable?
[03:24] <z1haze> i cant answer that. i dont know anything about it. i just googled easy backup for ubuntu, and this popped up. i read the page and it seemed simple enough
[03:24] <tango_uniform_xr> try doing it without reinstalling the bootloader, if the bootloader is already working then you don't need to anyway
[03:25] <z1haze> same shit ry doing it without reins
[03:25] <z1haze> um.
[03:25] <z1haze> https://bpa.st/2KDQ
[03:25] <z1haze> it just simply does not work
[03:25] <tango_uniform_xr> looks like the program is just crashing for some reason, an strace might be helpful
[03:26] <tango_uniform_xr> run the same command but with strace before it, e.g. `strace timeshift ....`
[03:27] <z1haze> uhm tons of output
[03:27] <z1haze> so much i cant even scroll up high enough
[03:27] <tango_uniform_xr> this time redirect it to some file and bpaste the file
[03:28] <tango_uniform_xr> `strace timeshift .... > somefile`
[03:31] <z1haze> i dont think this will work because it prompts for responses, and it does not record them
[03:31] <z1haze> actually wait i think i got it
[03:32] <koolkat332> hello my Ubuntu computer system crashed now it won't boot anymore cause I did a cold reset
[03:32] <z1haze> so how can i copy the entire contents of this file?
[03:33] <koolkat332> no syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0) ]
[03:34] <toddc> z1haze:   https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=330851 there is a bug listed for uefi
[03:34] <z1haze> this is as good as i get get you tango_uniform_xr https://gist.github.com/z1haze/e6bf55ee8a5569bb7654614b0c7f085b
[03:35] <koolkat332> I'm fixing mine up in recovery mode
[03:35] <z1haze> what do you guys recommend to do a full backup?
[03:36] <koolkat332> a backup drive
[03:36] <tango_uniform_xr> backups to a different drive or?
[03:36] <koolkat332> good news it's working
[03:36] <z1haze> well im trying to achieve something, and ive tried like 10 times, and when i fail i get stuff so mixed up i usually just reinstall
[03:37] <toddc> z1haze:  +1 filezilla live disk to a separate drive or partition
[03:37] <z1haze> but that takes time, id like to be able to just restore from a fresh install
[03:37] <z1haze> this thing is kicking my ass, for days now
[03:37] <z1haze> literally everything i try to do, as simple as it should be, turns into a full blown mission
[03:38] <toddc> z1haze: the other option is reinstall with ZFS the learn and use snapshots
[03:38] <tango_uniform_xr> for backups to separate drive/partition i usually use rsync
[03:38] <tango_uniform_xr> yes, zfs snapshots are great
[03:38] <z1haze> when you do backups in linux, does it backup literally everything?
[03:39] <z1haze> every package installed, every config, every state of everything
[03:39] <tango_uniform_xr> if you use zfs when you install ubuntu, it will backup system and user data
[03:39] <z1haze> i am on a pi, so im limited with my options i think
[03:39] <tango_uniform_xr> the automatic snapshots will be presented as bootable in the bootloader menu
[03:40] <tango_uniform_xr> yeah i noticed you were on an arm device from your strace
[03:40] <z1haze> i bought a pi to try to setup active directory domain controller with roaming profiles for my home network, so my kids can have all their files when they login on any pc in the house
[03:40] <koolkat332> zfs is from solaris
[03:40] <koolkat332> now question my android studio and ubuntu software won't load
[03:40] <koolkat332> is there something I can do to make them load?
[03:41] <z1haze> after a few days, i finally got the dc working with samba, but ive since had to reformat like a dozen more times because i couldnt figure out the roaming profile/shares
[03:41] <z1haze> and the reason why i restart, is when i try to get help, it generally ends with "well i dont know what you've done so i cant help"
[03:41] <z1haze> so i start over.
[03:41] <tango_uniform_xr> i have no experience with samba
[03:44] <tango_uniform_xr> for now i can point you to the arch wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Samba as well as https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Roaming_Windows_User_Profiles
[03:44] <z1haze> yep
[03:44] <z1haze> been stuck on that second one for days now
[03:44] <t4cc0re> @koolkat332: You can also get ZFS on Linux nowadays. It’s no longer a Solaris-only thing
[03:45] <tango_uniform_xr> usually when i'm stuck on something for days, i go over it again and look at it and see i made some small mistake that just makes everything not work
[03:46] <z1haze> the documentation is just not good
[03:46] <z1haze> its very inconsistent, and not well formatted.
[03:46] <z1haze> i found a really great tutorial for setting up the DC, and i got it working watching that
[03:46] <z1haze> but when it comes to the roaming profiles and shares i havent found anything that fits my exact scenario
[03:48] <nikolam> Hi, what's the best option for AMD RX480 drivers in Ubuntu 21.04 ? I see on ADM side there are both open drivers but only for 18.04LTS and 20.04LTS
[03:50] <tango_uniform_xr> the included drivers work very good
[03:53] <toddc> z1haze: if you are using standard ubuntu desktop samba can be added very easy from the file browser right click and share  tho rpi may be different
[03:53] <z1haze> well i have the ubuntu service running, no desktop. also im trying to do a little bit more than just file sharing. im using it as a domain controller
[03:53] <Bashing-om> nikolam: AMD, like Intel, has it's drivers in the kernel.
[03:55] <toddc> z1haze: then i did several years ago but the samba.conf file held all the keys I just had figure out groups wheels and permissions
[03:56] <z1haze> i dont think it has changed too much. i just cant figure out the roaming profiles and the share. let me get this DC up and running i hope it works again like last time then ill be ready to try it agin
[03:58] <nikolam> Bashing-om, I had issues ever after updated from 20.04 (20.10, now 21.04) with SteamPlay (Proton - wine layer) that I sort of have functioning on 20.04 and I *think* it were about drivers. Any special settings or package installs I can do to make it better?
[03:59] <z1haze> brb. i got the dc setup. just have to reboot so my pc will be joined to it
[04:02] <Bashing-om> nikolam: No experiecce or skills with either - nor have I seen anything in that respect. If the issue is only present within Steamplay I would see what configs I could change there.
[04:02] <z1haze> alright, im joined into my domain now, so the samba DC is working!
[04:02] <z1haze> but how do i get the stpuid roaming profiles
[04:07] <koolkat332> hi
[04:07] <koolkat332> certain apps are not loading
[04:07] <koolkat332> like android studio and snapinstall Ican't remember the name
[04:11] <z1haze> anyone able to help with setting up roaming profiles with samba?
[04:13] <wez> z1haze: #samba or ##samba might be a better channel to ask.
[04:14] <z1haze> oh i didnt know that exists. thank you!
[04:14] <wez> Well it did on Freenode, not sure if they moved here or not.
[04:14] <wez> I guess you'll find out :)
[04:41] <nikolam> Bashing-om, it were the same on 20.04 before. That funcionality of wine/Proton in Steam, only worked on 20.04, while havin installed drivers form AMD site and some pacjage install/tweaking. It also didn't work out of box for 20.04 too.
[04:41] <morgans> 'join #samba
[04:44] <Bashing-om> nikolam: Nothing says that you can not try the OEM driver install. What card do you have - does it support the propritary overlay (amdgpu-pro).
[04:44] <derzahl> hey, can someone help me real quick?  how do i just get a shell on the ssh installer for ubuntu server?
[04:45] <derzahl> i need to configure my own storage
[04:48] <derzahl> ok i found it. n/m
[05:09] <nikolam> It's rx480 graphics
[05:09] <nikolam> looking for clue if I need to install more packages to better support it or else
[06:19] <famubu> Hi. I'm on Ubuntu 18.04 with xfce 4.12 as my desktop environment. Sometimes my computer just gets stuck and even on waiting for more than 10 minutes, it won't get back to normal and I would have to force restart. I am on an HP computer with AMD radeon graphics. I searched online and saw some people had similar issues in the past but I couldn't identify a solution which could be applicable to my case
[06:19] <famubu> (thought it better not to use commands that I don't even understand..)
[06:19] <famubu> My `uname -a` output is `5.4.0-42-generic #46~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 10 07:21:24 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux`
[06:20] <famubu> Does anyone know if there's a way to fix this?
[06:20] <famubu> The computer hangs at what seems to be random times.
[06:20] <toddc> famubu: did you test the disk?
[06:23] <toddc> https://askubuntu.com/questions/577002/how-do-i-open-disk-utility-in-xfce
[06:23] <famubu> toddc: I had just replaced HDD.
[06:23] <famubu> I launched gsmartcontrol.
[06:23] <famubu> It shows no errors logged. Is that how we test disks?
[06:24] <toddc> I posted a link above to test
[06:24] <toddc> kust trying to the basics commen issues out of the way
[06:25] <famubu> toddc: gnome-disks says "disk is OK" in the 'assessment' field.
[06:25] <famubu> Is that the right field?
[06:26] <toddc> uncorrectable errors sector count is the main feild to look for
[06:28] <toddc> I have had computerse that pass and still had issues due to HDD and usually find a uncorrectable errors sector count that causes it to stop while the drive tries to repair itself then locks up
[06:30] <famubu> toddc: Found it! uncorrectable sector count is zero.
[06:31] <famubu> So I suppose the problem is not with HDD.
[06:31] <toddc> drive should be good
[06:32] <toddc> i hope someone else can help you dig in deeper that is my skill limit
[06:32] <famubu> toddc: Okay. Thanks :-)
[06:47] <toddc> famubu: you might try sytem monitor to see if you are running out of ram or cpu loads are the issue https://askubuntu.com/questions/438824/how-do-i-show-memory-use-graphically-in-the-xfce-panel
[07:53] <EriC^^> !ping
[08:02] <jelly> hey, is ubuntu going to have updates for hexchat package for LTS releases to connect to libera by default?
[08:05] <enyc> jelly: good question, is there a launchpad bug on the topic?
[08:05] <enyc> jelly: tbh I don't think it needs to be much of a question, its a case of "just do it" at this stage
[08:05] <enyc> jelly: but point might need to be nicely made to right persons etc
[08:06] <toddc> jelly that would be up to hexchat not ubuntu but yes it is included in the latest version
[08:06] <rbasak> I just asked the Debian maintainer who's also active in Ubuntu. They're not in this channel though, and their bouncer isn't connected.
[08:07] <rbasak> But yes - please ensure a bug exists to track this in Launchpad if you want it. That makes it easier for the people involved to make/track a decision/the work.
[08:08] <toddc> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1339682/how-do-i-connect-to-libera-chat-with-hexchat
[08:09] <jelly> toddc, it's specifically's Ubuntu's issue to make sure software has sensible defaults for Ubuntu users
[08:10] <jelly> and moreso, given the need to update sooner rather than later, that requires changes in packaging instead of relying on upstream
[08:11] <toddc> yes for the repositories, lts normally does not update but then this not a normal situation
[08:12] <jelly> precisely
[08:12] <jelly> now you're at the point where I was when I asked the question :-)
[08:14] <jelly> I'm going to ask debian to push the relevant changes to stable-updates; Debian probably only needs to add libera to the set of networks, I _think_ the client there defaults to irc.debian.org (OFTC) anyway but I haven't used a default config in decades
[08:15] <jelly> it's possible it uses upstream defaults; those would need fixing
[08:15] <toddc> since we can add libera to the currnt version and hexchat is not a default installed program so I would lean toward not but it is not up to me
[08:22] <Ronalds_Mazitis_>  sudo flatpak run org.gnome.BuilderInstall gnome-builder - error: app/org.gnome.BuilderInstall/x86_64/master not installed
[08:22] <toddc> jelly: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hexchat
[08:22] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> flatpak --version Flatpak 1.0.9
[08:24] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> turns out something was not installed
[08:24] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> by sudop
[08:30] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/2331f70028dd332ae6280cdf8d6c170e/pasted.txt
[08:30] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> sudo flatpak run org.gnome.BuilderInstall gnome-builder - error: app/org.gnome.BuilderInstall/x86_64/master not installed
[09:16] <mrkubax10> How to make wpa_supplicant and dhclient start when system is loading? I'm using Ubuntu Server 18.04
[09:20] <rbasak> mrkubax10: https://netplan.io/examples/#connecting-to-a-wpa-personal-wireless-network
[09:20] <rbasak> Oh, I'm not sure about 18.04. But I'd try that first as it's simple to undo.
[09:21] <mrkubax10> I'll check
[09:31] <lesshaste>  I want to add the person's name to be added at the bottom of the part of the video where they are talking/ What is a good tool for that?
[09:34] <tpecar> Hi all - does anyone here have experience setting up kerberized NFS?
[09:35] <mrkubax10> Netplan worked
[09:38] <tpecar> I've managed to set everything up (name resolution, NFS, KDC), and I can mount the share with krb5/i/p, id mapping works when listing files, but any file operation gets mapped to nobody:nogroup
[10:30] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> error: app/org.gnome.BuilderInstall/i386/master not installed
[10:30] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> why am I getting this error message
[10:31] <Ronalds_Mazitis_>  sudo flatpak install --from https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/org.gnome.Builder.flatpakref
[10:31] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> error: App org.gnome.Builder, branch stable is already installed
[10:37] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> this does not have any reference in google
[10:37] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I did exactly what tutorial said
[10:37] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> in "clean" ubuntu environment
[10:37] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> on virtual machine
[10:38] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> but that is just on this machine
[10:48] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/1314f9f0138765410ed5f2ab221e3d84/pasted.txt
[10:50] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Builder requires a desktop session with D-Bus. Please set DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS.
[10:50] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> why would
[10:53] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> g_dbus_connection_get_unique_name: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed
[10:57] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Could not create the medium storage unit
[10:57] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> virtualbox
[10:57] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> on external hdd
[11:43] <craigbass76> Anyone run across a quick and dirty replacement for a drafting table? I'm pretty good with GIMP, but need the scale that would come with a drafting program, and any of the CAD apps I've run across are like using a wrecking ball to pound a finish nail.
[12:01] <Chunkyz-RPi> I can't mount via fstab and cifs. I done, //192.168.0.225/media/    /home/pi/external/   cifs    username=*secret*,password=*secret*   0    0 - /media is there and it's got a 3tb hdd mounted. /home/pi/external has been created. but I can't mount it: [ 2308.020598] CIFS: VFS:  BAD_NETWORK_NAME: \\192.168.x.x\media [ 2308.022318] CIFS: VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -2 - any ideas?
[12:02] <Chunkyz-RPi> I'm using 20.04.2.....
[12:05] <cbreak> Chunkyz-RPi: 192.168.x.x is not a valid IP address
[12:05] <cbreak> is 192.168.0.225 the correct one?
[12:05] <Chunkyz-RPi> yeah I forgot to blank out the other. it's 192.168.0.225
[12:05] <cbreak> can you mount it normally?
[12:05] <cbreak> directly I mean?
[12:05] <Chunkyz-RPi> no.
[12:07] <Chunkyz-RPi> cbreak: just keeps saying this over and over, annoying as hell. CIFS: VFS:  BAD_NETWORK_NAME: \\192.168.0.225\media
[12:07] <Chunkyz-RPi> I'm trying to get 192.168.0.118 to use a folder from 192.168.0.225
[12:07] <Chunkyz-RPi> because .225 has a 3TB hdd attatched.
[12:08] <cbreak> can you ping the other?
[12:08] <Chunkyz-RPi> I can ssh in etc so yep
[12:08] <cbreak> what CIFS version does the server have?
[12:08] <Chunkyz-RPi> both the same
[12:08] <cbreak> credentials=/etc/cifs/credentials,uid=cbreak,vers=3.0    you can put credentials into a file too
[12:08] <cbreak> protocol version I mean, not program version
[12:08] <Chunkyz-RPi> cbreak: tried that already, doesn't help.
[12:08] <Chunkyz-RPi> what do you mean?
[12:09] <Chunkyz-RPi> (2:6.9-1ubuntu0.1).
[12:09] <Chunkyz-RPi> both the exact same...
[12:17] <Chunkyz-RPi> cbreak: if I do it manually, still doesn't mount: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=*secret*,password=*secret* //192.168.0.225/media/ /mnt/3TB
[12:18] <cbreak> and specifying the version?
[12:18] <Chunkyz-RPi> version?
[12:18] <cbreak> yes
[12:18] <cbreak> like in my example
[12:18] <Chunkyz-RPi> what do you mean?
[12:18] <cbreak> (I use version 3)
[12:19] <Chunkyz-RPi> still the same.
[12:19] <Chunkyz-RPi> same error.
[12:19] <cbreak> it should obviously match the version your server uses
[12:19] <Chunkyz-RPi> sudo mount -t cifs -o vers=3.0,username=*secret*,password=*secret* //192.168.0.225/media/ /mnt/3TB
[12:20] <cbreak> wonder what bad network name means...
[12:20] <Chunkyz-RPi> what do you mean? server doesn't have cifs in fstab
[12:20] <Chunkyz-RPi> "it should obviously match the version your server uses" they both have the same package.
[12:21] <Chunkyz-RPi> apt-get install samba smbclient cifs-utils on both. both 20.04.2
[12:22] <Chunkyz-RPi> cbreak: if I try ver 1 it says mount error(95): Operation not supported
[12:22] <cbreak> well, 1 is prehistoric
[12:22] <Chunkyz-RPi> yeah and 2 gives the same error
[12:23] <cbreak> Chunkyz-RPi: the package isn't what matters
[12:23] <Chunkyz-RPi> then?
[12:23] <cbreak> the protocol version matters
[12:23] <cbreak> the "language" the server uses
[12:23] <Chunkyz-RPi> how do I set the protocol?
[12:23] <cbreak> probably somewhere in the samba config files
[12:24] <Chunkyz-RPi> both the same apart from the name is different.
[12:24] <cbreak> I'd expect 3 or 2 to be the correct one, so if that doesn't help, the version wasn't the cause of the problem you're facing.
[12:24] <Chunkyz-RPi> netbios name = PiDesktop vs netbios name = PiServer
[12:37] <Chunkyz-RPi> cbreak: it's working, kind of.
[12:37] <Chunkyz-RPi> I can't mount /mnt or /media BUT I can mount /root
[12:40] <TomyWork> TIL that some windows installers allow lowercase netbios names, but you really REALLY shouldn't do that.
[12:40] <TomyWork> if those are names of your choosing, make them ALLCAPS to avoid issues
[12:41] <Chunkyz-RPi> !ot | TomyWork
[12:41] <TomyWork> Chunkyz-RPi, this is in reply to your line from 17 minutes ago
[12:42] <Chunkyz-RPi> what?
[12:42] <gdb> How is it off topic to suggest using Windows naming convensions when discussing connecting to a server running a Microsoft protocol using Ubuntu?
[12:42] <TomyWork> you have netbios names with lowercase letters in them
[12:42]  * gdb scratches his head.
[12:43] <Chunkyz-RPi> does it really matter? I'm not even on windows...
[12:43] <TomyWork> netbios is a microsoft protocol, developed for use with windows
[12:43] <gdb> The protocol is designed by Microsoft, so it's to your benefit to adhere to their standards.
[12:44] <Chunkyz-RPi> it works.... why change something that's not broken.
[12:44] <TomyWork> (my previous assumption was that lowercase letters in netbios names are completely impossible, btw)
[12:45] <gdb> Chunkyz-RPi: If you don't care for the advice, then ignore it. But it's not offtopic.
[12:45] <Walex> NETBIOS is such a mess, like SMB and CIFS, that the author of Samba reports that Microsoft developers were grateful that the Samba project had reverse engineered and documented them :-)
[12:46] <TomyWork> the article i read talked about issues with non-microsoft operating systems when using lowercase letters in netbios names
[12:46] <TomyWork> Walex, haha
[12:47] <Chunkyz-RPi> to be honest, I did wonder why people only use lowercase. but I thought it was their preference.
[12:48] <Chunkyz-RPi> TIL indeed!
[12:48] <TomyWork> you mean only uppercase
[12:49] <Chunkyz-RPi> yeah, my bad.
[12:49] <Chunkyz-RPi> sleepy, not been sleeping too well.
[12:49] <nyuszika7h> I'm using Ubuntu 21.04 and my dock takes incredibly long (about 30 seconds) to register any changes, such as icons being dragged, or an app launching or exiting
[12:49] <nyuszika7h> already tried a reboot but it didn't fix it
[12:49] <Walex> BTW similar upper/lower case issues happen also in different ways with various MS filesystem types.
[12:50] <nyuszika7h> well, launching is registered but non-favorite apps that I exit take about half a minute to disappear
[12:52] <cbreak> Chunkyz-RPi: so... you didn't create a share for /media ?
[12:52] <Chunkyz-RPi> cbreak: I did. but it never mounts and gives the error I said. but /home and /root work fine. weird.
[13:03] <mort> apt is so broken
[13:04] <Chunkyz-RPi> !package apt-fast
[13:04] <mort> "libpulse-dev : Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:14.2-1ubuntu1.1) but 1:14.2-1ubuntu1 is to be installed"
[13:04] <mort> what do I do here?
[13:07] <cbreak> mort: apt update?
[13:07] <mort> cbreak: done, and it says all packages are up to date
[13:07] <cbreak> apt search libpulse gives me libpulse0/hirsute-updates 1:14.2-1ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:14.2-1ubuntu1]
[13:07] <mort> though, weirdly, `aptitude install libpulse-dev` suggested upgrading a bunch of its dependencies from the -1ubuntu1 version to the -1ubuntu1.1 version
[13:08] <mort> even though `apt update` said all packages are up to date
[13:09] <cbreak> what does it give you?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:09] <mort> "it"?
[13:09] <cbreak> apt search libpulse
[13:10] <mort> well, I let aptitude do its thing and now it shows "libpulse0/hirsute-updates,now 1:14.2-1ubuntu1.1 amd64 [installed]"
[13:10] <mort> not sure what it would have said before aptitude installed -1ubuntu1.1 though
[13:10] <cbreak> probably because you didn't run apt update before
[13:10] <cbreak> and it had something old in the package cache
[13:11] <mort> cbreak: I'm telling you, I ran `sudo apt update` and it said all packages are up to date
[13:12] <cbreak> yes... of course it did...
[13:12] <cbreak> after it updated the catalog
[13:12] <mort> here's a copy from my terminal window: https://p.mort.coffee/y4l
[13:13] <cbreak> the point of apt update is to update the package list
[13:13] <mort> yes
[13:14] <mort> cbreak: look at my log, I 'apt install libpulse-dev', it doesn't work, I 'apt update', it says all packages are up to date, I 'apt install libpulse-dev' again and it doesn't work
[13:14] <cbreak> `E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.` ... hmm...
[13:15] <cbreak> wonder where that came from
[13:15] <mort> apt always thinks everyone has broken packages
[13:15] <mort> I don't know if apt is broken or if ubuntu's repos are
[13:16] <mort> I don't think I've had experience with any ubuntu install which hasn't at some point accused the user of having held broken packages
[13:16] <cbreak> I think it's a local thing
[13:16] <cbreak> holding back packages is something local for sure.
[13:17] <mort> I've honestly had way fewer issues with both pacman and dnf than apt
[13:20] <mort> cbreak: do you have any idea why apt just would randomly not notice that a package upgrade is available?
[13:21] <cbreak> it seems to have noticed it
[13:21] <cbreak> but for some reason it didn't want it (something "held" it back
[13:21] <kubast2> yo, I can't go passed the ubuntu 21.04.02 initial screen
[13:21] <cbreak> no idea why or what)
[13:21] <kubast2> it detects the account but also says it failed to unlock the gnome keystore
[13:21] <kubast2> but gnome keystore doesn't use my password
[13:21] <kubast2> I didn't set any specific password for it is a fresh install
[13:21] <kubast2> after an update and a reboot
[13:22] <kubast2> 20.04.02 lts
[13:22] <mort> usually aptitude will have wild suggestions like "uninstall your libc to resolve dependency problems and install this package", I was surprised when it just suggested... "upgrade these packages"
[13:22] <kubast2> installed it with no internet at a time
[13:22] <kubast2> "To use Livepatch, an Ubuntu One account is required"
[13:22] <kubast2> I click continue because it failed before an update to add the account
[13:22] <kubast2> but it now sees it
[13:23] <kubast2> I regive it my password
[13:23] <kubast2> it now asks me for a keystore password and it is unable to unlock the keystore
[13:24] <kubast2> can I just "restart" the gnome keyring somehow?
[13:24] <mort> kubast2: do you have root access (i.e does 'sudo' work?)
[13:24] <kubast2> yeah I do
[13:24] <kubast2> the password for sudo and gnome asking me for my user password works
[13:25] <mort> well that's good at least
[13:25] <mort> you can see your login keychain in "Passwords and Keys"
[13:25] <mort> try to right click the login keychain and select change password
[13:26] <kubast2> yeah it asks me my previous password for that keychain as expected
[13:26] <mort> yeah, see if that accepts it?
[13:26] <mort> it probably won't, but worth a shot
[13:26] <kubast2> I can manage system trust certs, gpg keys and openssh keys; it doesn't accept it just like it didn't
[13:26] <kubast2> before
[13:26] <kubast2> I did try
[13:26] <kubast2> I can remove it and readd it
[13:27] <kubast2> right? it just holds the gnome accounts password and maybe would hold firefox unlock password if I would set it I assume
[13:28] <mort> yeah, deleting and re-adding it *should* be okay from what I know
[13:29] <kubast2> yeah now the startup program doesn't work and gnome-settings can't add new keys
[13:29] <kubast2> and some background process crashed
[13:29] <kubast2> gnome-initial-setup right
[13:29] <kubast2> yeah the password and keys app is unable to add new keystores etc.
[13:30] <mort> hmm
[13:31] <mort> in that case, it might be time to learn how to interact with this stuff from the command line...
[13:31] <kubast2> I guess I never used the gnome/kde keystore it was just a thing in a background that would hold my wifi password
[13:31] <kubast2> yeah
[13:35] <kubast2> mort, where can I make UX suggestions? You know how when you change the position of the screens(like from left to be the right most one), and then when you go to apperance inorder to change the theme to white/standard/dark, the dock position suddenly doesn't follow the "Main/Primary" screen and so do the icons on the screen. Also the action of selecting a bunch of desktop icons and moving them, will deselect the initial selection and make you move a
[13:35] <kubast2> single item.
[13:36] <kubast2> Or maybe I am just forgetting that I am on gnome
[14:09] <Chunkyz-RPi> apart from gnome and sway, what managers use wayland?
[14:13] <mort> kde, everything built on wlroots (there's a lot: https://github.com/swaywm/wlroots/wiki/Projects-which-use-wlroots), weston
[14:14] <ogra> there are also the egmde snaps (wayland desktop on top of Mir)
[14:15] <ogra> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/confined-desktop-proof-of-concept/22589
[14:39] <jthistle> hey - is  apt update  failing for anyone else?
[14:39] <Chunkyz-RPi> no jthistle
[14:40] <jthistle> it can't find the focal/InRelease repo, weirdly
[14:40] <jthistle> huh, that's weird
[14:40] <jthistle> the specific url that it's failing to get is http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/InRelease
[14:41] <Habbie> hello! 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.152)]
[14:41] <Habbie> it ends up failing
[14:42] <jthistle> Habbie: I also have the same problem
[14:42] <happosade> I'd like to keyboard remapping. I'm trying to modify dvorak to have following:  `key <LSGT> { [ adiaeresis,  odiaeresis,     Adiaeresis,           Odiaeresis ] };` and I already tried using just vanilla xmodmap and editing `/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us` directly (deriving dvorak of preference from us dvorak layout), but that doesn't seem to help. Running on ubuntu 21.04
[14:43] <jthistle> Habbie: seems like a service outage, not sure what else there is to do but wait :/
[14:43] <Habbie> jthistle, well, the time-to-fix sometimes depends on the right people knowing
[14:44] <jthistle> Habbie: seems the issue is already identified: https://status.canonical.com/
[14:44] <Habbie> jthistle, totally green here
[14:44] <AceSlash> hey, 91.189.88.142 (mirror of archive.ubuntu.com) seems down, it is refusing connection from port 80, is this the correct chan to notify canonical?
[14:44] <Habbie> oh it says it's fixed now
[14:44] <Habbie> AceSlash, apparently it was fixed in the last 60 seconds
[14:44] <Habbie> works for me now, indeed
[14:45] <jthistle> seems this is the second full outage today
[14:45] <jthistle> the first one was fixed in 12 mins
[14:45] <AceSlash> Habbie: works for me too
[14:46] <Chunkyz-RPi> weird, works fine here. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:51] <kubast2> https://streamable.com/c2l02o this has been going on since 18.04 on my laptop, on my desktop on any device I would try; the audio just doesn't work right at times; don't take me wrong, but I tried nixos(no installation because the installer can't read the initialized nix file on a fresh ext4 filesystem even as root due to lack of permissions), fedora, arch; maybe only windows 10 20/H1/H2 is capable of stuttery audio due to cpu usage; This is how audio
[14:51] <kubast2> sounds like at times
[14:52] <kubast2> it is like that since 2018, old devices(i5-7200u laptop acer aspire f5-573g, my new ryzen 5 desktop)
[15:34] <jpmh> I am not understanding one aspect,maybe more, of /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf - I see a max anda miimum poll tme, but how often does it actually try and re-sync - maybe what I don't understand is what poll-time is
[15:48] <emcy> anyone tried 'ubuntu unity'
[16:00] <sneep> :'( @ archive.ubuntu.com being down
[16:01] <Habbie> again?
[16:01] <Habbie> yes, again
[16:17] <jpmh> emcy: you mean the old interface they had?
[16:18] <maret> hi , how can I stress test Ubuntu especially ram and cpu? I've tried running stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 4 --vm-bytes 1024M --timeout 10s, but it was pretty short test and honestly I am not sure how many workers I should spawn for my system.  I have 64GB Ram and 5900x
[16:27] <kedare> Hello o/
[16:28] <kedare> Anyone familiar with rsyslog ? I have FIFO output that are put "suspended" every few minutes and I can't find why
[16:39] <Chunkyz-RPi> Habbie: it's down again? wonder what they're doing...
[16:40] <Chunkyz-RPi> oh, systemd update. brb reboot.
[16:47] <tomreyn> maret: for ram, if you're bios booting, use the memtest available from grub menu. if you're uefi booting, use the free version from https://memtest86.com - do at least two *full* passes, this can take a night.
[16:49] <ligar> @maret please note that memtest doesn't really test stuff on the cpu only memory<>cpu path and ram. if you suspect issues with cpu or somewhere else stress and let it run overnight
[16:50] <tomreyn> stess-ng though
[16:51] <maret> yeah thanks !
[16:54] <ligar> @maret I have seen cases several times that issues don't crop up till after several hours and in two? cases days.
[16:55] <tomreyn> maret: while stress testing, make sure you have lm-sensors set up and run "sensors" every couple seconds to monitor temperatures. and to keep a root shell open to be able to run "stress-ng --abort" in if needed.
[17:17] <Chunkyz-RPi> does 20.04.2 support wayland?
[17:20] <tomreyn> Chunkyz-RPi: it's available, in main, but Xorg is the default until 21.04. for all i know, wayland doesn't work with nvidia proprietary drivers, yet.
[17:54] <mekhami> what in general might be the cause of stuff no longer being found, i.e. `zsh: command not found: docker-compose` which was working yesterday
[17:55] <mekhami> i assume it's my $PATH no longer being correctly populated, but I sourced all the relevant files that I know of (.profile, .zshrc)
[17:58] <maret> @tomreyn @ligar so I am running memtest and two things, I didnt change settings and there is 1/4 passes indicators , from what I read I should tried 8 passes but seems that test will at at 4?
[17:59] <maret> secondly i checked bios (MSI motherboard) and A-XMP ez button was set to off for sure, but  mem test  is showing RAM info: PC428800 DDR4 XMP 3602 mhz
[18:16] <denza242> hmm
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> how can we help you denza242
[18:16] <denza242> I can't seem to install firmware-amd-graphics
[18:18] <oerheks> !find firmware-amd-graphics
[18:18] <oerheks> firmware-amd-graphics is not in our repos?
[18:18] <oerheks> in Debian it is part of firmware-nonfree...
[18:19] <oerheks> today we had a linux-firmware update, maybe reload your lists/cache? sudo apt update
[18:19] <Mekaneck> did a apt search on 20.04.2 no firmware-amd-graphics package found
[18:19] <mekhami> i'm very confused. i got to work today and i no longer have docker-compose, silversearcher-ag, my docker containers themselves are gone... what in the world could i have done to break my environment like this?
[18:21] <denza242> !find firmware-amd-graphics focal
[18:22] <oerheks> denza242,  there is none.. where do you get such error?
[18:22] <oerheks> not on ubuntu, right?
[18:23] <denza242> oh it's from my xanmod repo
[18:24]  * denza242 coughs
[18:24] <denza242> well I suppose the original problem is the 1000 "firmware missing" messages when updating
[18:24] <denza242> cpu is a Ryzen 3700U with the Vega 10 integrated gfx
[18:25] <denza242> which I'm unsure if it's being used, or at least, used properly
[18:26] <oerheks> glxinfo | grep render
[18:27] <denza242> OpenGL renderer string: AMD RAVEN (DRM 3.40.0, 5.12.10-xanmod1, LLVM 11.0.0)
[18:27] <oerheks> looks good
[18:27] <oerheks> on this page,tearfree as an option /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-amdgpu.conf
[18:27] <oerheks> https://blog.vx.sk/archives/287
[18:28] <denza242> but when I do lshw -C video, one of the lines says the clock is a mere 33mhz
[18:28] <oerheks> yes, that has nothing to do with 60hrz or +
[18:29] <denza242> I'm just wondering if the many "firmware missing" messages have something to do with it feeling like the graphics are running less than optimally
[18:32] <oerheks> dunno, of you have linux-firmware installed, things should be good
[18:32] <oerheks> *on ubunt u
[18:34] <tomreyn> maret: 8 full passes is a lot, but you can do that if you want to be sure. i *think* you can configure # total passes in settings. as you noticed, it defaults to 4.
[18:37] <tomreyn> maret: about XMP, i don't know. i don't do overclocking, go for stability and specified hardware lifetime. maybe ask in ##hardware
[18:39] <tomreyn> denza242: those "missing firmware" messages may not even be about your graphics chipset. what do they say exactly? use a pastebin.
[18:40] <tomreyn> denza242: actually, please ensure those are actually reported by an ubuntu kernel, otherwise i'm not going to spend time on it.
[18:46] <denza242> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pQZDYmMMpq/ 90% sure it occured under the vanilla ubuntu kernel too
[18:46] <denza242> occurred even
[18:49] <dc> Hi. I'm running latest ubuntu and have a monitor which should support resolution 2560 x 1440 @ 60hz, cable is hdmi. but settings only lets me choose 1920 x 1080. I have tried some stackoverflow answers adding new resolutions and assigning then using xrandr, and then cahnging in the control panel but when i do the whole screen goes black and i can see a smaller version of my mouse and it just
[18:49] <dc> flickers. nothing else works
[18:49] <dc> any help is appreciated :)
[18:50] <dc> at that point i have to restart the machine which seems to reset the display
[18:52] <oerheks> maybe 2560 x 1440 @ 60hz, is only viable with DP displayport
[18:52] <oerheks> .. or an premium hdmi cable
[18:53] <maret> tomreyn unfortunatelly .com free version only goes up to 4 passses
[18:53] <maret> i am trying .org but i cant boot it
[18:54] <dc> oerheks: i didnt even think about that O_o
[18:58] <dc> oerheks: how can i get a firm answer on that?
[19:02] <dc> google says hdmi 1.3 was releases in 2006 and should support that res. and my mobo is not that old, i bought it after 2010
[19:06] <dc> - Supports HDMI with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
[19:06] <dc> FML
[19:13] <Guest7151> hello
[19:13] <fontis> So... snaps vs flatpak?
[19:14] <Mekaneck> fontis: if you want to discuss snaps vs flatpak and want a opinion, this is the wrong channel for it
[19:15] <fontis> Was worth a try.
[19:15] <Mekaneck> try #ubuntu-offtopic or -discuss
[19:30] <theseb> anyone ever had trouble installing virtualenv on ubuntu 20.04?  I'm having version issues with python-pip-whl
[19:30] <theseb> python-pip-whl : Breaks: python3-virtualenv (< 20.0.17-1ubuntu0.3) but 20.0.17-1 is to be installed
[19:31] <denza242> bleh
[19:32] <denza242> something died and i forgot to reconnect
[19:32] <sarnold> theseb: have you run an apt update lately?
[19:32] <theseb> sarnold: yes
[19:34] <sarnold> theseb: okay.. does apt policy python3-virtualenv  show the 20.0.17-1ubuntu0.3 version as a candidate?
[19:35] <theseb> sarnold: let me see...secf
[19:35] <theseb> sec
[19:35] <theseb> sarnold:  Candidate: 20.0.17-1
[19:35] <theseb> sarnold: so i guess no?
[19:35] <ioria> theseb, enable focal-updates
[19:36] <theseb> ioria: how do that?
[19:36] <ioria> theseb, paste your sources.list
[19:36] <sarnold> theseb: I think sudo apt-add-repository updates   would probably do the trick
[19:37] <tomreyn> denza242: sorry, got distracted. your generations' firmware isn't listed as missing on thise warnings, so those are benign.
[19:38] <theseb> ioria: https://pastebin.com/8CQvmFHT
[19:39] <ioria> theseb, and may i ask why is that ?
[19:39] <theseb> ioria: why is what?
[19:39] <ioria> theseb, you know it's not a default focal sources.list
[19:40] <denza242> tomreyn: fair enough
[19:40] <theseb> ioria: i cut out the comments with a shell command...thought i was being helpful...should i paste the whole thing verbatim?
[19:40] <Guest7151> have you guys manualy updated kernal for kubuntu?
[19:40] <oerheks> why disable updates.. weird sourceslist
[19:40] <oerheks> Guest7151, no.
[19:40] <denza242> I just wonder why my laptop, which I think is fairly powerful, keeps locking up so much over a few webpages
[19:40] <denza242> and also can't seem to do decent hwdec for video
[19:41] <theseb> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q8BZSFP5DW/
[19:41] <theseb> ioria: whole enchilada ^^
[19:41] <tomreyn> denza242: does it have the latest uefi firmware installed?
[19:42] <sarnold> there are folks who want only security updates installed, and not standard bugfix updates; not many, but we build the packages in -security with that in mind
[19:42] <theseb> ioria, sarnold: what does adding focal-updates do?
[19:42] <tomreyn> denza242: journalctl -b | grep DMI:
[19:42] <sarnold> theseb: it'll let you install bug fix updates, too, not just security updates
[19:42] <oerheks> fiddle around in update-settings ..
[19:43] <denza242> tomreyn: unsure
[19:43] <denza242> just some audio stuff comes up
[19:43] <tomreyn> denza242: i'll tell you if you tell me the output of this command
[19:44] <tomreyn> should be just one line
[19:44] <denza242> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QJk8QgWR96/
[19:44] <denza242> oh
[19:44] <denza242> HDMI
[19:45] <denza242> whoops
[19:45] <denza242> Jun 16 10:50:13 localhost kernel: DMI: LENOVO 20NE0001US/20NE0001US, BIOS R11ET25W (1.05 ) 04/04/2019
[19:45] <tomreyn> release date 2019, most likely not the latest
[19:46] <tomreyn> denza242: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-edge-laptops/thinkpad-e495-type-20ne/20ne/20ne0001us/downloads/ds539418-bios-update-utility-bootable-cd-for-windows-10-64-bit-thinkpad-e495-e595
[19:48] <tomreyn> denza242: https://workaround.org/article/updating-the-bios-on-lenovo-laptops-from-linux-using-a-usb-flash-stick/
[19:49] <theseb> sarnold: i allowed focal-updates and did aptitude update but still same error?!?
[19:49] <sarnold> can't just use fwupd? :(
[19:50] <sarnold> theseb: ugh :/ what does apt-policy look like?
[19:50] <theseb> sarnold: zsh: command not found: apt-policy
[19:50] <sarnold> omg I hate my fingers :)
[19:50] <sarnold> I'msorry
[19:50] <tomreyn> sarnold: not unless there's a suitable update capsule, i think. but i'm not sure how you'd producte that on your own. fwupd.org updates usually lack behind some releases.
[19:50] <sarnold> apt policy
[19:51] <sarnold> tomreyn: I hadn't heard that there was a delay there :(
[19:51] <theseb> sarnold: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dspQqj8PzD/
[19:51] <tomreyn> sarnold: it dpends on vendors uploading those upgrades
[19:52] <tomreyn> denza242: watch out, make sure you read the WARNING in RED
[19:52] <tomreyn> denza242: ah no, not relevant, your current version is high enough
[19:53] <sarnold> theseb: hmm, there's still no updates in this output; did your apt download the new updates lists after updating the sources?
[19:54] <theseb> sarnold: i did "aptitude update"
[19:54] <tomreyn> denza242: actually, no, i'm not sure your current verison is high enough. so better upgrade to version n2huj03w first
[19:55] <sarnold> theseb: try an apt update instead, see what that does
[19:57] <tomreyn> denza242: okay, i double checked, it's fine to go directly from 1.05 (R11ET25W) to 1.20 (R11UJ40W)
[19:59] <denza242> tomreyn: will try later, ty
[19:59] <theseb> sarnold: i noticed the focal-updates are all deb-src..is that right? they d/l sources?
[20:00] <sarnold> theseb: ah, that might explain it. I wonder why they got added as deb-src rather than deb. how did you add them?
[20:00] <theseb> sarnold: i didn't...the default sources.list had only deb-src
[20:02] <oerheks> sudo cp /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:02] <oerheks> to get the original
[20:03] <sarnold> oh that's awesome
[20:03] <sarnold> this is at least the second time I've learned this in the last week or two
[20:03] <oerheks> then add universe by the menu, i guess
[20:03] <sarnold> I hope this time it sticks :)
[20:03] <tomreyn> sarnold: thinkpad E series doesn't seem to be supported via lvfs / fwupd
[20:04] <sarnold> :( :( :(
[20:04] <sarnold> that's certainly worth complaining about, if only you could figure out to whom to complain
[20:05] <tomreyn> manufacturer, i guess
[20:05] <coke> is there a table somewhere of which intel igpu are supported by which ubuntu version?
[20:06] <tomreyn> coke: not that i know of. what's the use case?
[20:06] <sarnold> tomreyn: that's the problem -- complaining to lenovo about *anything* is well-neigh impossible. :(
[20:07] <coke> I have to stay on 18.04 and want to get the most recent intel i5 that works
[20:09] <coke> not sure how the whole kernel/module/firmware combination works and if back ports are done for lts ubuntu on those
[20:10] <oerheks> one better searches for your current intel GPU by kernel
[20:10] <tomreyn> coke: newly introduced intel gpu hardware might need a newer linux kernel, and / or a newer mesa version
[20:10] <coke> I dont have one I want to buy one
[20:10] <guiben> Hi everyone! I've posted this question on askubuntu.com a couple of days ago: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1345673/ubuntu-works-well-on-livecd-but-the-gui-is-extremely-slow-after-fresh-install. Maybe someone can give me some pointers? Thanks!!
[20:11] <oerheks> latest 11th gen is supported from kernel 5.8 and up
[20:11] <coke> I have written off gen 11 but I dont want to go too save and too old either
[20:11] <tomreyn> coke: what's keeping you on 18.04 LTS?
[20:12] <coke> kernel modle for a strange sas card
[20:12] <tomreyn> mpt?
[20:13] <tomreyn> is this a server then?
[20:14] <coke> Marvell Linux driver mv14xx, driver version 6.0.0.1010N.
[20:16] <tomreyn> marvell mv14xx seems to be for SATA controllers
[20:17] <coke> not really a server just old desktop hardware that I wanted to add more disks to
[20:20] <tomreyn> you should probably replace the raid controller if it's not suüpported on newer hardware but you want to replace the cpu. may need a new mainboard anyways.
[20:20] <tomreyn> (due to new cpu socket)
[20:22] <coke> QXP-1600eS qnap
[20:22] <coke> cant replace the card cause it fits to the external enclosure
[20:23] <Guest7151> you could just use mdadm if your board has ports for the drives without the raid controller
[20:24] <coke> the whole point of getting the thing was to not have to use hardware raid
[20:24] <coke> and I didn't mind linux support too much and it said it had it
[20:25] <coke> and then I switched and found out about 'we only support old and maybe you want to buy something else'
[20:27] <coke> maybe I will just get a Celeron and write the box off as 'doesn't waste too much power' NAS
[20:27] <oerheks> cheap i3 will do
[20:28] <coke> yea back to square one :)  what is the latest i3 that gets full igpu support by ubuntu 18.04? :)
[20:35] <tomreyn> coke: do you run X on it, though?
[20:36] <coke> no
[20:36] <coke> I want to hardware de and encode videos
[20:36] <tomreyn> oh on an igpu?
[20:37] <coke> yes
[20:38] <coke>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video#Hardware_decoding_and_encoding the newer the better
[20:38] <tomreyn> well, pick some cpu you'd like, then find out whether it can work on the latest i915 / kernel version and mesa that the other driver allows you to run on 18.04 LTS.
[20:38] <jwinterm> I have an issue with hp pavilion laptop running kubuntu 20.04 - today it stopped charging via usb-c cable. usb-c still works fine, I conncect my phone and laptop can charge my phone and open files, but when I tell my phone to charge laptop or just plug it into wall the laptop doesn't charge anymore (previously did).
[20:38] <jwinterm> tried updating to latest kernel now, and bios doesn't appear to have any updates
[20:39] <jwinterm> tried holding down power button for 30 s, no dice
[20:39] <jwinterm> not sure what else to try
[20:39] <jwinterm> also - it charges via usb-c when the power is off and lid is closed, just not while the computer is on
[20:40] <tomreyn> jwinterm: sound slike a mainboard firmware issue. how have you verified you have the latest?
[20:41] <jwinterm> checked HP website, bios f.10, doesn't appear to be any newer revisions
[20:41] <jwinterm> it was working until today no problem, maybe I need to roll back to older kernel?
[20:42] <tomreyn> worth a try. if this doesn't help, try resetting uefi to (optimized) manufacturer defaults, ask in ##hardware, open a support case.
[20:43] <jwinterm> ok, thanks
[20:43] <tomreyn> also cross-test the cable if you haven't
[20:47] <jwinterm> yea tried a few cables, they all work on phone
[23:41] <willthechill> intro to Perl data types, all development done in Ubuntu!  https://youtu.be/go7Ru3QQYYs
[23:42] <oerheks> put that on askubuntu please
[23:43] <oerheks> this is technical support only
[23:45] <willthechill> oh sorry, I thought this was general Ubuntu discussion?
[23:46] <willthechill> uh there is no channel #askubuntu ?
[23:47] <oerheks> #ubuntu-discuss ..
[23:47] <oerheks> but askubuntu surely reaches a larger audience
[23:59] <jelly> well thanks for reminding me to /j #perl