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IrcsomeBot<chrobv> This group is as quite as I don't even know what00:22
geniiA support channel which is quiet is actually a good thing, since it means either people aren't having problems, or the problems thay do have are easily solved without seeking assistance here00:38
JavaBeansame reason that it is good for EMT's/FireFighter's to be bored01:14
mutteHi02:43
IrcsomeBot<murdock86> Hello02:47
mutteHi02:48
mutteIs there any one here who have a couple of minutes over and an erge to help out with some file/disk issues?02:50
mutteurge*02:50
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> Can this bot reply on messages?02:51
IrcsomeBot<murdock86> Explain away :) (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> Is there any one here who have a couple of minutes over and an erge to help out with some file/disk issues?)02:52
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> yes, ask your queries. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> Is there any one here who have a couple of minutes over and an erge to help out with some file/disk issues?)02:52
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> it is a bridge bot between telegram and kde irc channels (re @Flooding: Can this bot reply on messages?)02:53
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> it is a bridge bot between telegram and kde's irc channels (re @Flooding: Can this bot reply on messages?)02:53
mutteAha02:53
mutteShould I msg or can I just type like this?02:53
mutteIt was 20 years ago I used IRC :D02:54
IrcsomeBot<murdock86> Ask in here. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> Should I msg or can I just type like this?)02:54
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> ask here itself, just like you are talking now (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> Should I msg or can I just type like this?)02:55
mutteOk02:55
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> Seems it can't do a reply on telegram messages. (re @ri5h46h: it is a bridge bot between telegram and kde's irc channels)02:56
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> yes it can't02:57
mutteWhen I made my partitions for Kubuntu I also formatted a disk. And the choise of mounting type for said disk I wanted didn't exist in the installer02:57
mutteSo now Kubuntu has Hijacked a whole disk as /tmp02:57
mutteIt's 120GB02:58
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> Also should it have been KRC or KIRC instead of IRC? (re @ri5h46h: it is a bridge bot between telegram and kde's irc channels)02:58
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> Also shouldn't it have been KRC or KIRC instead of IRC? (re @ri5h46h: it is a bridge bot between telegram and kde's irc channels)02:58
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> why? IRC if fine. (re @Flooding: Also shouldn't it have been KRC or KIRC instead of IRC?)02:58
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> KDE's logic (re @ri5h46h: why? IRC if fine.)02:58
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> KDE's logic (re @ri5h46h: why? IRC if fine.)02:58
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> i would suggest close the installer and wipe your disk once again. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> It's 120GB)02:59
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> use cli.02:59
IrcsomeBot<murdock86> Guess it would confuse new users if it were called that. (re @Flooding: Also shouldn't it have been KRC or KIRC instead of IRC?)02:59
mutteI have that wonderful problem with ACPI when I install02:59
mutte21.04 have never worked02:59
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> yes some new users get confused, that how is a bot replying to them.02:59
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> oh. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> 21.04 have never worked)03:00
mutteThis time I installed 20.10 and then ungraded03:00
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> it's actually not doing a reply, and that's confusing too (re @ri5h46h: yes some new users get confused, that how is a bot replying to them.)03:00
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> it's actually not doing a reply, and that's confusing too (re @ri5h46h: yes some new users get confused, that how is a bot replying to them.)03:00
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> it's actually not doing a reply, and that's confusing too (re @ri5h46h: yes some new users get confused, that how is a bot replying to them.)03:00
mutteYour answer comes twice03:01
mutteNow three times03:01
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> Edit counts (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> Your answer comes twice)03:01
IrcsomeBot<murdock86> Try tagging a user instead then. (re @Flooding: it's actually not doing a reply, and that's confusing too)03:01
mutteHow do I tag a user?03:01
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> type my username like this " @ri5h46h " and send03:02
mutte@ri5h46h Oh, got yah03:03
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> yes, i got a notification.03:03
mutte@ri5h46h :D03:03
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> 👍03:04
mutte@ri5h46h It goes much better for me with the installs if I choose to Try first and then install03:04
mutte@ri5h46h It must download some extra drivers or something03:05
mutte@ri5h46h I have looked online how to move /tmp but they are all abit different than my situation and I don't understand the commands that good so I can't really implement them03:07
mutte@murdock86 Hi there Sir03:10
mutte@murdock86 Do you happen to have the time and the skills I need?03:10
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @mutte please run this command and paste the link:  df -lh | pastebinit03:20
muttedf -lh | pastebinit03:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yes, run that in the terminal03:21
mutteI just did03:21
mutteOr in a terminal in Konversation?03:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> in a konsole window...03:21
mutteOh, ok03:22
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yest, terminal window03:22
mutte@DarinMiller https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/skhTpqtt9X/03:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> you might need to install pastebinit: sudo apt install pastebinit03:23
mutte@DarinMiller Will do Sir03:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> your link worked... reviewing now...03:24
mutte@DarinMiller How did you know I wanted all that to be installed?03:24
mutteUNinstalled03:25
mutte@DarinMiller UN-installed03:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I am trying to understand what physical drives exist in your system so that I can suggest how make the changes you requested.03:26
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> please run: cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit03:27
mutte@DarinMiller https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qXhymM2pNy/03:28
mutte@DarinMiller It looked like installing pastebinit would uninstall akonadi but those processes are still running :(03:29
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ?  pastebinit is working fine so no need to install it.03:29
mutte@DarinMiller The upgrade also moved EFI/Boot from my sdb1 to sda1. I need to move it back some how03:30
mutte@DarinMiller It just seems to me that akonadi records a lot of stuff03:30
mutte@DarinMiller I don't think akonadi came with the install. I think it installed when I installed KMail. But I'm not gonna use that anymore03:31
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> oh, i always install in the same way (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> @ri5h46h It goes much better for me with the installs if I choose to Try first and then install)03:31
mutte@ri5h46h The installer often crash for me even if I do it like that. But I found out that if you just leave it for a bit the installer actually keeps installing stuff03:33
mutte@ri5h46h So serveral times the installment worked03:33
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> oh got you.03:34
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> And now run this command: mount | grep sd | pastebinit03:36
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mutte@DarinMiller Disk 1,2,4 are SSD:s But I'll run the command03:36
mutte@DarinMiller https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BjNgnzH79V/03:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I am trying to figure out why you have 2 swap partitions.  I think we can safely comment out the tmp partition from the /etc/fstab file.  But I am trying to understand if anything else should be fixed.03:38
mutte@DarinMiller Entry #18 in my fstab03:38
mutte@DarinMiller What is that exactly03:39
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> brb....03:39
mutte@DarinMiller Ok thats nice of you. The reason is that my first plan was to install 3 different Ubuntus and try them out seperatly03:40
mutte@DarinMiller But I had so much fun and so much trouble with the first so I never installed the others03:40
mutte@DarinMiller If it wassn't for having some important files on sda3 on Windows and the major disk after that I would have formatted it03:41
IrcsomeBot<murdock86> No unfortunatly, im pretty new to this myself. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> @murdock86 Hi there Sir)03:45
mutte@murdock86 No worries, I found a guy!03:45
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ok one last command before we "fix" things: lsblk | pastebinit03:45
mutte@DarenMiller https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vqBGdMfGHP/03:46
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> mutte : actually mentioning an user's username again and again on telegram sends a notification, so avoid doing that everytime.03:47
mutteOh I'm sorry I thought theese were direct meassages03:48
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> if you have telegram with you, you can join us on it at @kubuntu_support .03:49
mutteNo I don't I'm sorry03:50
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> OK, given that is your current drive partition and configuration: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vqBGdMfGHP/03:54
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> use this site to specify (edit) the layout to your preference: https://paste.ubuntu.com/03:54
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Then we can determine if we can accomplish the layout without re-installing.03:54
mutte@DarinMiller Awesome, thank you03:55
mutte@DarinMiller What are the loops?03:55
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Ignore those, the OS sets those on boot.03:56
mutte@DarinMiller I'm not touching them. I'm just a curious man :D03:56
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> https://askubuntu.com/questions/381211/what-is-the-loop-partition-in-ubuntu03:57
mutte@DarinMiller The only reason I want to move GRUB back to disk 2 is that I'm farily certain it is going to be overwritten by Windows when I install that03:57
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> In your case, they are snap installations...03:58
mutte@DarinMiller Oh ok I see03:58
mutte@DarinMiller And hardware probes03:59
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I suspect the hw-probes allow you snap sessions to communicate with your physical devices, but I am guessing on that part...04:00
mutte@DarinMiller No I did some probes for Linux Hardware and Fwupd04:01
mutte@DarinMiller I installed HW-Probe my self04:01
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Did you install hw-probe from here? https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe04:03
mutte@DarinMiller I don't think I need to fill in the pastebin, the scheme you sent is correct so I only need to mark sdb1 as /boot/efi and copy the grub. I don't now how to access a partition if Linux didnt made it visible04:04
mutte@DarinMiller Yes from there04:04
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I have never moved a /boot/efi partition except during install.  This link describes the process, but requires adapting the commands to fit your partitions and *buntu: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/111845/how-to-move-efi-and-boot-partitions04:10
mutteI have access to EFI - shell so I can move text around. I think that as long as I can flag the disks correct I can just copy the GRUB text04:12
mutteNeed to confirme that GRUB is still left on sdb1 first04:12
mutteAlmost done with pastebin04:12
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Also, I recommend commenting out line 13 in your /etc/fstab file as you probably do not need a dedicated /tmp partition that is ~112GB.04:13
mutteI agree :D04:14
mutteI have stayed away from editing that file.04:15
mutteI think I should burn Kubuntu 21.04 on a USB stick before doing anything to the boot04:15
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> you might need to use partition manager to set the boot flag /dev/sdb104:16
mutte@DarinMiller https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RWF2WJqnW6/04:16
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Yes! always have backup plan :)04:16
mutte@DarinMiller Yeah maybe. Kubuntu won't let me. It just swiches back when I do04:16
mutte@DarinMiller I have had so much fun trying out Ubuntu. I started around two weeks ago and been sitting infront of the computer almost 24/704:18
mutte@DarinMiller I've only used Windows before04:18
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> :) I know the feeling.  So much to learn!!!04:18
mutte@DarinMiller Yeah! I do feel that of the once I've tried I like Kubuntu the most. It suits me to have options for customizing alot04:20
mutte@DarinMiller But boy did I get my butt handed to me in the beginning. There are a few more rules to Linux than Windows04:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Are you dual booting?  You have several unmounted large partitions.04:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> i.e. sda3, sdb3 and soon sdd104:22
mutte@DarinMiller I was in the beginning but then I had an unfortunate accident. I was trying Clover for boot manager. And I had just booted it without installing or anything. And an option said "Press space for more info about your selection"04:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> LOL04:23
mutte@DarinMiller Well, it did give me the info not to hit space again04:24
mutte@DarinMiller So since I did not set it up at all I apperantly tried to boot Windows as a Mac just right after Clover just scuffed Windows bootmanager aside04:25
mutteOh, youre also on Telegram. I didn't noticed. Have I given you a whole bag of notifications too now?04:27
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> before trying to following the instructions on that website, run this command: sudo parted -l | pastebinit04:28
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I want to see if sdb1 is recognized as a /boot/efi partition04:28
mutteAm I removing a hook with that?04:28
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> No, that does not change anything, just shows drive layouts. i.e. here is mine: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NbMkMbhTmt/04:30
mutteI've written it down so I won't forget. I have been up all night so I'm not sure if I'm gonna do it without some sleep first04:30
mutteYou have a pinch more space than I04:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Here is my fstab file: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WhkNt9kVvw/04:34
mutteThats a handsome one that04:35
mutteThe last line in mine, does that have anything to do with a USB stick?04:35
mutteSomehow Ubuntu started reeeeally hating on one of mine so It's unusable still. I might have fixed it yesterday I have'nt checked yet04:36
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> note, I have my /home on it's own partition.  Thus, if I ever accidentally mess up my installation, I can re-install my root "/" partition without formatting my home partition.  Thus I don't lose my setup.04:36
mutteI had that as well at first but the layout of the filesystem will all sym links and quirks I tend to mess it up that a complete reinstall dosent matter :D04:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I also  mount other drive  on /data (configured during install) to point to my spinning hard drive.04:38
mutteI use my mechanical drive as backup for Windows04:39
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> So yes, I recommend you remove all partition from all drives, and decide how you want to access each drive.04:39
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> BUT ONLY kill partition if all important information is backed up elsewhere.04:40
mutteYeah I need to empty the next to last partition on sda first and I'm abit afraid of making the files inaccessible from windows after that04:41
mutteI'm afraid the ownership won't be right04:42
mutteI was thinking about making a boot USB with an OS indepentant file manager of some sort and move the files04:42
mutteUbuntu has made me paranoid XD04:43
mutte@DarinMiller Thanks for your help. I have som stuff to do but I'll pop in later05:03
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> You are very welcome.  Not sure I helped very much, but hopefully  we will patch up your setup as needed.05:05
mutte@DarinMiller I'ts gonna be fine. :D05:07
lordievaderGood morning06:02
IrcsomeBot<bittin1> morning06:08
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> /names@IrcsomeBot06:08
IrcsomeBot<ri5h46h> 'morning06:08
IrcsomeBot<Flooding> ''morning06:08
enyccurious06:38
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IrcsomeBot<RikMills> The discover in the ppa now has the upstream patch that allegedly fixes this (re @gilbertoferreira: Hi there! Anyone else with this "problem"? Everything is up to date, but the discover notification is there in the corner and doesn't come out. Kde 5.22.1)09:48
bittinhey :)10:01
bittintest10:02
bittinthats better10:02
enycbittin: found new server?10:15
bittinenyc: testing Konversation so was changing settings10:15
enycbittin: aah ok10:16
bittindecided to try out Kubuntu during https://akademy.kde.org/ instead of https://awesomewm.org/ on Ubuntu for 2 weeks10:16
enycalas many kubuntu or kde people are stuck in  old freenode irc ;-(10:16
enycwondering if all kde pointers updated etc10:16
enycbittin: in particular, does ubuntu-provided "Konversation" package still offer irc.freenode.net by default at all ????10:17
bittinenyc: nope RikMills has fixed that :)10:17
enycbittin: also SRU to existing LTS releases?10:17
bittinthats a good question i am on impish so not sure but i think so, let me find the bug10:17
enycbittin: cheked on packages.ubuntu.com -- seems so10:18
RikMillsLP: #192937810:18
bittinenyc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/192937810:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1929378 in konversation (Ubuntu) "[SRU] default network should be switched to irc.libera.chat" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192937810:18
enyc  * Switch default network to irc.libera.chat (LP: #1929378)10:18
enycyes10:18
enycfound it =)10:18
bittinso Focal, Groovy, Hirsute and Impish10:18
enycbut not bionic-updates [!!]10:18
enyc18.04LTS not uncommon out there10:19
RikMills18.04 is EOL for Kubuntu10:19
enycRikMills: oooh interesting ok10:19
RikMillsif someone wants to volunteer to fix anyway, that would be great10:20
RikMillsespecialy now since freenode 'died'10:20
bittinatleast they dropped my Freenode account for me10:21
bittin:D10:21
BluesKajHi all12:47
IrcsomeBot<gilbertoferreira> Yeah! This morning I get about 30 updates and after a reboot everything is ok. (re @RikMills: The discover in the ppa now has the upstream patch that allegedly fixes this)12:52
IrcsomeBot<elmismomismo> hello on Kubuntu 21.04 I can't turn off my notebook.13:13
IrcsomeBot<elmismomismo> ksmserver-logout-greeter crashing13:13
IrcsomeBot<elmismomismo> Any solution?13:13
diogenes_elmismomismo, try: systemctl poweroff13:19
IrcsomeBot<amieltransman> Guys13:24
IrcsomeBot<amieltransman> Someone resolved the problem of upgrade notifications in the new plasma?13:25
IrcsomeBot<elmismomismo> thanks but i want a solution to shut down, reboot from system not from terminal (re @IrcsomeBot: <diogenes_> elmismomismo, try: systemctl poweroff)13:26
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> The discover dev made a fix, and this has been applied to our packages. (re @amieltransman: Someone resolved the problem of upgrade notifications in the new plasma?)13:26
mparilloI believe there was a patch to Discover for upgrade notifications.13:26
IrcsomeBot<amieltransman> I will check it13:27
IrcsomeBot<amieltransman> Thanks13:27
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user217_Hello. I get 'stegsolve' running before I try to run most of my apps. Is anyway to fix this ?15:01
IrcsomeBot<Paranikumar04> 7PH416:05
bittinKDE is having a Super Tuxkart evening in 33 minutes16:58
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